“Speaking of weasel words, there's confusion over just what constitutes a "right." In the name of economic equality, progressives (i.e., socialists) insist that poor women have the right to free birth control and free abortions. But having a right to do something or acquire something is not the same as forcing others to pay for it.

Joe Biden used to abide by this distinction but has thrown in with his party's rabidly pro-abortion contingent and now advocates overturning the Hyde Amendment so that taxpayers can be forced to pay for abortions. He drew praise from Ilyse Hogue, president of the abortionist trade group NARAL Pro-Choice America, who called abortion a Democratic Party "core value." She said "reproductive freedom is fundamental to the pursuit of equality and economic security." Can't establish socialism without abortion, in other words.

This whole business of "rights" and even "freedom" has become distorted into a grab bag of demands for goods provided by others.

The First Amendment guarantees the freedom of speech, but not the "right" to force others to pay for a printing press or computer.

The Second Amendment guarantees Americans the right to own firearms, but it does not grant a "right" to force others to subsidize gun purchases.

Declaring health care to be a "right" implies that government must seize control of health care to ensure "free" services for all, especially abortion.

Same with groceries, education, rent, child care, you name it. Why not cars and televisions? Or cell phones? Wait. We already have that. More than 20 million "Obamaphones" have been handed out, and the Lifeline Assistance program estimates that more than a third of the country's population may qualify for a phone at others' expense.

California just announced "free" health care even for illegal aliens, which they euphemistically call "undocumented immigrants" or just "migrants."

The idea behind all this weasel verbiage is to create an unstoppable free-stuff army to overwhelm productive citizens, create one-party states and eventually a one-party nation. With Democratic hegemony comes ideological conformity.”

Socialism is the road to a man made hell on earth.  

Socialism is the road to a man made hell on earth.  

Democratic socialist countries have a higher standard of living than we do.

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These are not Democratic Socialist countries...most are constitutional monarchies.

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To the extent that the left wants to point to an example of successful socialism, not just generous welfare states, the Nordic countries are actually a poor case to cite. Regardless of the perception, in reality the Nordic countries practice mostly free market economics paired with high taxes exchanged for generous government entitlement programs.

These are not Democratic Socialist countries...most are constitutional monarchies.

Socialism as an economic policy can and does work very well inside a market economy because you and others seem to be convinced that socialism always and must be an authoritarian government controlling the economy.  What I  and other progressive support are known as market socialism.  I schooled someone else on this idea a few days ago.

Those monarchies are in name only because they hold very little real political power.

 I shop at a local grocery chain that is owned entirely by the employees, which is market socialism.

I am also a member of a co-op grocery that is owned by the workers and the customers- also socialist.

My electricity comes from a powerplant that is own by the city. Also socialist.

My neighbor works at a steel fabricator that is owned entirely by the workers. That is also socialist.

King Arthur flour is owned by the workers, market socialism again.

They also pay very high taxes.

Compared to what they receive in return for that tax level it is not excessive. 

We live in a very conservative area and have a city owned utility.   It runs better and for less money than the state regulated private utility in the surrounding area.  

We live in a very conservative area and have a city owned utility.   It runs better and for less money than the state regulated private utility in the surrounding area.  

Ohio just chose to bail out First Energy from their failed management decisions at their 2 nuclear plants with a claimed Green Energy Bill. This is corporate welfare at its finest. The nuclear plant close to Toledo came with days of being another Three Mile Island when it was discovered that the reactor lid was millimeters away from failing catastrophically underload. It would have polluted much of the top 3rd of the state with radiation. First Energy had postponed needed maintenance to save money.

COLUMBUS - Ohio Republicans' energy overhaul started as a thinly veiled attempt to rescue two northern Ohio nuclear plants with new fees on everyone's electric bills. 

Now, the veil is off. 

Changes made to House Bill 6  last week would direct most of the $197.6 million collected from new fees on Ohioans' electric bills to Akron-based FirstEnergy Solutions, which operates two nuclear plants outside Toledo and Cleveland.

Renewable energy companies from wind to solar would not get a cut of this "Ohio Clean Air Program."

In a double blow, lawmakers also axed current programs that encourage electricity providers to purchase renewable energy and help customers become more energy efficient. 

And lawmakers ensured utilities could charge customers a fee for two coal plants operated by Piketon-based Ohio Valley Electric Corporation through 2030. The plants are located in Gallipolis and Madison, Indiana. 

Those monarchies are in name only because they hold very little real political power.

Did you not read?  These are capitalistic countries with entitlement programs.  These programs are paid for through taxes.  You don't seem to understand the difference. 

which is market socialism.

I have worked for an ESOP company for over 15 years and the structure and management of the company has nothing to do with socialism. None of them do, or they would fail like socialist countries do. Your examples of socialist companies is amusing.  Your understanding of business and markets is lacking. 

Did you not read?  These are capitalistic countries with entitlement programs.  These programs are paid for through taxes.  You don't seem to understand the difference. 

I never said that they were not paid by taxes.

You seem to have a very narrow idea of what socialism means.  

Our utility would have been PG&E had our ancestors not created a utility here some 80-100 years or so ago. We still have them for natural gas.  Our electric power is on the same bill as water, sewage, and garbage, recycling, yard waste collection is on.   PG&E was cleared of the Santa Rosa fire but is responsible for the Camp fire that destroyed Paradise, Ca.

There is no free stuff and those of us who support these policies have ever said that it is free stuff.  That is a strawman as a way to make people oppose the idea. Those ideas are paid for by our combined tax dollars because we choose to spend them differently from how we do now because those program have a greater social benefit.

  I'll go into greater detail with you when you learn to tell the truth that social is a economic idea of the workers owning the means of production and not a authoritarian government, that conservatives seek to portray it as as a way to convince the uneducated to oppose socialist economic policies that would be in their benefit to support.  Your Bible commands you to tell the truth so you should start to obey that commandment.

to tell the truth that social is a economic idea of the workers owning the means of production and not a authoritarian government,

we already own the means of our production...  and the results of our production.

if socialists ever want to take that away from us.?

the socialists had better bring an even bigger more authoritarian govt with lots of guns.  

we already own the means of our production...  and the results of our production.

Where do you work where this is true?

Where do you work where this is true?

I think they call it the USA

own the means of our production...  and the results of our production.

I owned my business while I kept my profits and retired early.

millions do it every day while losers/socialists complain about it.  nothing new.

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I owned my business while I kept my profits and retired early.

true I did pay dearly to be able to say that...

over 20yrs of 16hr days did not leave room for much else.

as I'm not really all that bright, my theory was simple...

• work 8 hrs a day to pay for today
• and then work another 8hrs today to pay for my retirement (which is now my today)

as I'm retired in my early 50's id say it was a solid plan.

funny thing about socialists...  

they are not willing to work that hard, why should I subsidize them?

funny thing about socialists...   they are not willing to work that hard, why should I subsidize them?

Who said anything about subsidizing the workers? Do you have a problem with government bailouts and corporate subsidies for billionaires such as Wal-mart, GE, and Amazon?

Who said anything about subsidizing the workers?

I did... 

or does that money just magically show up?  LOL

never mind that was rhetorical/

our constitution recognizes individual ownership of business and property.

there will be no collective ownership of our stuff.

but you can get a bunch of people together and have your employee owned business anytime ya like.  you can even call that "socialism... LOL  just don't expect taxpayers to fund that business'  grand opening.

write it down it will be on the test

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I’d like to decline any subsidy and accept another tax cut.  

'clearing the way for killing unborn children right up to the moment of birth.'

Nonsense.  The turd in chief keeps spreading this lie also.  

And beyond...Trump is correct in saying it.  And in quoting him saying what he does on the issue I can have repeated what we pro life folks aren’t allowed say on that topic here on our own if they were our own words.  

This whole piece is nothing but utter rubbish, nonsense, and lies.  

To say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions is to be too kind to socialists who have anything but.....  The seed headline and article are right on.

It's a bunch of gobbledygook and cockamamie claptrap.  

be too kind to socialists

Trump uses socialism all the time. I bet you are ok with it too. 

"Free Abortions?"  Really?

What ever.  I'd rather pay for 'pregnancy termination' than a birth and all of the ensuing expense for the next couple of decades.

Every true fiscal conservative would.  Of course, conservatism is dead, murdered by Reagan and Supply Side Economics.

"Free Abortions?"  Really?

What ever.  I'd rather pay for 'pregnancy termination' than a birth and all of the ensuing expense for the next couple of decades.

Every true fiscal conservative would.  Of course, conservatism is dead, murdered by Reagan and Supply Side Economics.

This is just fiscally pragmatic and socially responsible.  The earth is already overpopulated, so we don't need more people, especially those who are not wanted and cannot be supported by the parents. 

The $1000 abortion is cheaper than prenatal care and a hospital birth.  If it is an abortion pill or free morning-after medication, then it is even cheaper.

For those who aren't pro-life then I can only suggest that you don't take it, but your conservative religious views can not be permitted to determine the medical choices of others unless I can also make your medical choices? 

This is where this seeder dredges this nonsense from:

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We are awash in weasel words, that is, euphemisms meant to distract us from reality

Well I suppose they are only stealing a page from Mr. Trumps playbook, the master of distractions.