OREGON PASSES LAW MANDATING SCHOOLS TEACH ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST

  
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OREGON PASSES LAW MANDATING SCHOOLS TEACH ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST

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OREGON PASSES LAW MANDATING SCHOOLS TEACH ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST

The measure mandates the instruction in response to spikes in antisemitic incidents across the country

BY CNAAN LIPHSHIZ/JTA (Jewish Telegraph Agency), JULY 18, 2019

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Polish-born Holocaust survivor Meyer Hack shows his prisoner number tattooed on his arm during a news conference at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem June 15, 2009.. (photo credit: REUTERS)

 Oregon will require its public school students to learn about the Holocaust and other genocides.

Gov. Kate Brown signed a bill on Monday initiated by a 14-year-old girl who had struck up a friendship with a 92-year-old survivor. Claire Sarnowski, from suburban Lake Oswego, met Alter Wiener four years ago when she attended one of Wiener’s talks about surviving the concentration camps. Wiener died last year after he was struck by a car.




The measure mandates the instruction in response to spikes in antisemitic incidents across the country, CNN reported Tuesday.

Beginning in the 2020-21 term, schools must provide such teaching to “prepare students to confront the immorality of the Holocaust, genocide, and other acts of mass violence and to reflect on the causes of related historical events.” Schools also must encourage cultural diversity and emphasize the importance of protecting international human rights, according to the bill.

Sarnowski told lawmakers earlier this year that Holocaust education should be required in all schools to ensure history doesn’t repeat itself.

“Learning about genocide teaches students the ramifications that come with prejudice of any kind in society,” she said.

Eleven other states require Holocaust education in schools, according to the Anti-Defamation League. Washington state’s governor signed a law in April that “strongly encourages” teaching the Holocaust.


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Buzz of the Orient
1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    5 months ago

NEVER FORGET   -    where that phrase belongs, and ONLY belongs.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    5 months ago

I have two others.

911

Pearl Harbor

 
 
 
charger 383
1.1.1  charger 383  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1    5 months ago

both are Days that will live in imfameny 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  charger 383 @1.1.1    5 months ago

Absolutely.

 
 
 
Kathleen
2  Kathleen    5 months ago

I remember is high school we went over it very briefly. It was a history lesson about WW2.

My daughter visited the Holocaust museum in her English class in high school. I thought that was great, I did have to prepare her for what she was about to see. 

So, I think it’s a good idea to talk more about it and let them see what a terrible thing it was.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kathleen @2    5 months ago
I think it’s a good idea to talk more about it and let them see what a terrible thing it was.

Not only talk about it but I'm all for visiting these places.  When I went to Dachau, the piles of clothes and luggage was still in a few of the buildings.  I just stared in disbelief for a few minutes.  It's all there for everybody to see so that we don't forget or allow it to happen again.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Kathleen @2    5 months ago

Been to Dachau, Auschwitz and Birkenau.  Make you almost believe in ghosts the way you feel when your there.

As Americans, if we want to be honest with ourselves, we need to make sure that we teach about the Holocaust in depth.  We need to show what happens when you make another culture something less than human.  That that applies to people at our boarder seeking asylum tool.

We also need to teach about Japanese interment, and some of the real inhumanity that happened in the Pacific in WWII island battles.  What was done to Native Americans was nothing short monstrous as well.  We of European dependence have quite a bit of blood on our hands.  We can't pay for our misdeeds, but we are obligated to make sure they aren't repeated. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3  It Is ME    5 months ago

In my days of schooling, This was taught quite a bit. Too bad "Modern Day" schools have been glossing over it !

Friends and I did a presentation in our history class, using " George Harrison's "Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) " in the background, as we had a slide show showing the despair, hardships and incineration pictures that went on in those camps perpetrated by the "REAL" Nazi's.

We got an "A" +++++ jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
cms5
4  cms5    5 months ago

It is a shame that a law mandating the teaching of the Holocaust must be passed.

My generation learned about the History of this Nation - the good and the bad...before entering college.

Today, history seems to be a burr in everyone's shorts. Tear down this monument...change these words....paint over this...focus on this bad thing this Nation has done...ignore everything else.

History cannot be erased or removed.

Schools need to quit focusing on their little standardized tests and start teaching again. All of American History should be learned prior to entering college.

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.1  Tacos!  replied to  cms5 @4    5 months ago
All of American History should be learned prior to entering college.

I'm a fan of history, but I don't know how you could teach "all" of American History.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @4.1    5 months ago

You can't. It's impossible

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @4.1    5 months ago

Then at least choose the most important issues, and impose required reading as homework for lesser ones (with tests to make sure the students did their homework).  However, some may question whether The Holocaust was American history - but it certainly is a lesson every human being should learn in order that it never be allowed to be repeated. 

 
 
 
luther28
4.1.3  luther28  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.2    5 months ago

For those that do not cotton to print, the World at War series has an excellent section regarding the Holocaust and Final Solution.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.2    5 months ago
but it certainly is a lesson every human being should learn in order that it never be allowed to be repeated. 

Agreed. Maybe it's just me, but this is the first Iv'e heard of the holocaust not being taught in schools. Maybe it's because I grew up in the shadow of WWII that we all knew about it as children. How did the public school system ever stop teaching that?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  luther28 @4.1.3    5 months ago
For those that do not cotton to print, the World at War series has an excellent section regarding the Holocaust and Final Solution.

I love that series (I own it). Made in the UK in the early 70's it was unique in many ways. They were wise enough to interview a lot of people on all sides of WWII before they passed away, such as the interview with Hitler's personal secretary or concentration camp survivors or German women who were raped by Russian soldiers.....everyone from all walks of life who survived the Second World War.

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.6  Heartland American  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    5 months ago

True but they can teach it all from beginning to present effectively in the Jr year and the same for US government in the Sr year.  And they can in September each year actually teach and emphasize constitutional week.  

 
 
 
WallyW
4.2  WallyW  replied to  cms5 @4    5 months ago
History cannot be erased or removed.
Try telling that to the left wingers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5  JohnRussell    5 months ago

Every public or private school should include teaching about the Holocaust as part of its modern world history curriculum. 

The genocide of the Jewish people attempted by the Nazis is one of the most important stories of the 20th century and beyond. 

For that matter, irrational prejuduce against Jews, often faultily based on the idea that Jews were responsible for Jesus death, is one of the most disgusting ideas ever perpetrated on the world. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6  Tacos!    5 months ago

Sounds fine, but I don't see anything in the story that indicates it was necessary. Has it really been a problem getting public schools in Oregon to teach the Holocaust?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @6    5 months ago

At least it can prevent it from BECOMING necessary.

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.1  Heartland American  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1    5 months ago

I agree.  We should ensure that we can never ever forget.  I support what Oregon did.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7  Trout Giggles    5 months ago

Good!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8  Nerm_L    5 months ago

I grew up with the holocaust.  My father was among the Army medical personnel that dealt with some liberated work camps, slave camps, and concentration camps.  My father would cry over how many people he killed by giving them too much food.  I grew up with screams in the night from my father's bedroom.

People who deny the holocaust are too stupid to be called stupid.

I don't think there is really any way to teach about the holocaust.  It was too terrible for words.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nerm_L @8    5 months ago
"I don't think there is really any way to teach about the holocaust." 

Perhaps not a sufficiently ADEQUATE way to teach it, but that is no reason not to do the best that can be done. 

"My father would cry over how many people he killed by giving them too much food."

Please explain.  Did that happen because it is fatal to allow starved people to eat too much food too quickly - the amount needing to be increased incrimentally? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nerm_L @8    5 months ago

Will you not explain that equivocal comment about too much food?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2    5 months ago
Will you not explain that equivocal comment about too much food?

There are whole host of complications.  For people who are not so completely emaciated, too much or the wrong kinds of foods will cause dysentery and they will likely crap themselves to death.

People who are more completely emaciated lose the ability to digest food because the bacteria in the gut have starved.  Feeding someone who is that emaciated too quickly will also drain the little remaining blood away from other organs including the brain; too much food too quickly can deprive the brain of oxygen.  The stomach (and other organs) has shrunk and too much food too quickly can cause the stomach to burst.  People who are that far gone do not turn blue when they die and their bodies do not decompose.  They are essentially mummified before they die.  Any sort of solid food would kill people who are in that condition. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.2.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.1    5 months ago

God damn those Nazis.  Thanks for the explanation.  I feel sorry for what your father went through but thank him for trying his best.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2.2    5 months ago
God damn those Nazis.

Waffen SS in particular.  The real danger is fanatics regardless of ideology.

I feel sorry for what your father went through but thank him for trying his best.

My father may have killed hundreds but he fed and saved thousands.  If anyone tried to 'thank him for his service' he'd give them a shiny new asshole.  They did what had to be done, nothing more but nothing less.  Gratitude is the wrong sentiment to be used for military service in that kind of war.

Vets have earned respect, give them respect.  Don't be thankful for the hardships and horrors they had to endure.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.2.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.3    5 months ago

Sorry if I said the wrong thing. As a Canadian, and never the right age to serve in any war, I am not that familiar with the right thing to say about military service. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.2.5  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2.4    5 months ago
Sorry if I said the wrong thing.

Buzz, there is NO need to apologize.  None at all. 

All vets, regardless of era, should be thanked for their service, especially those that have seen combat or it's remains.   Many saw horrific things that normal rational civilized people should not have to see.  Those images and memories will remain for as long as they live.  Some are successful in burying those, others relive them continually.

Yes, as 'Nerm_L' noted, they did what had to be done.  And as is often said, "All gave some, some gave all.", while being true, I know of no vet that would do anything other than say a muted Thank You.  They're the lucky ones who "gave some" while some of their friends and brothers in arms "gave all".

So, Buzz, allow me to say.  THANK YOU, the sentiment is, while unnecessary, greatly appreciated.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
8.2.6  Nerm_L  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2.4    5 months ago
Sorry if I said the wrong thing. As a Canadian, and never the right age to serve in any war, I am not that familiar with the right thing to say about military service.

Canadians stood up and did what had to be done, too.  The horrors and hardships weren't any easier for Canadians.

Some of those World War II vets had to do the most unspeakable and uncivilized things imaginable because it had to be done.  Hell holds no surprises for some of those vets.  Personally, I can't be thankful that a soldier had to do those things.  But those things had to be done, it wasn't a choice.

 
 
 
luther28
9  luther28    5 months ago

We now have to mandate that historical facts be presented in a history class?

Small wonder history always seems to repeat itself, hmmmmmmm.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
10  tomwcraig    5 months ago

Now, if they would pass a law mandating that the US Constitution is taught for a full year, and here in Oregon pass a law mandating the teaching of the state Constitution for 6 months at least.  At least there is a petition going around to recall Kate Brown, and the Republican Party is working on having a second petition calling for her recall. (The first petition is by a grassroots group, and I forget its name).  I signed it, because Kate Brown has already proven that she would go against the voters, whom rejected granting Drivers Licenses to Illegal Immigrants, by creating an Executive Order granting them Drivers Licenses as an Emergency Action.  Plus, she has threatened to use Executive Power to implement Cap and Trade.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
11  JumpDrive    5 months ago

I went through grammar school & high school in the 60s to early 70s. I would characterize the presentation of American History as propaganda. The good was well presented, but the bad was heavily sanitized, usually by omission. What was actually done to the indians was sanitized, what slavery was actually like was sanitized. How and why the US interfered in other countries was largely omitted.

There were a very small number of teachers who believed we should know more. I clearly remember watching "Night and Fog". At 13, such evil was barely comprehensible. Perhaps the writers of the history books felt that we couldn't handle the whole truth, but the teacher who showed us that film proved them wrong. Holocaust denial is incomprehensible to me.

 
 
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