Tweet by tweet: Trump praises Trump 2,026 times

Via:  john-russell  •  3 months ago  •  63 comments

Tweet by tweet: Trump praises Trump 2,026 times
From a long list of Tweet topics: 1,710: promoted conspiracies. 851: attacked minority groups. 36: called the news media the "enemy of the people." 16: referred to himself as everyone’s "favorite" president.

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Tweet by tweet: Trump praises Trump 2,026 times


Photo: Doug Mills. Illustration:   The New York Times . Used by permission.

The NY Times   read all 11,390 of President Trump's White House tweets ( twice ), and reports these findings in a 10-page special section, with  three   articles   online .

The big picture:  "At the beginning of his presidency, Mr. Trump tweeted about nine times per day. ... In the past three months, President Trump’s tweets have spilled out at triple the rate he set in 2017."

"[T]he person  he most often singled out for praise was himself "— 2,026 times.

  • "[H]e attacks  someone or something in more than half of his tweets. ... [H]e has attacked at least 630 people and things in 5,889 tweets since taking office."

From a long list  of Tweet topics:

  • 1,710:  promoted conspiracies.

  • 851:  attacked minority groups.

  • 36:  called the news media the "enemy of the people."

  • 16:  referred to himself as everyone’s "favorite" president.

How to catch Trump's eye for a retweet:  "Capital letters help. ... Mornings, East Coast time, are best," Matt Flegenheimer  writes .

  • "The surest path  is echoing Mr. Trump’s voice. The user @fiiibuster, whose profile boasts that he has been retweeted twice by the president, ... [used the words] 'security,' 'prosperity,' 'America first,' 'Pathetic,' 'bad reporter,' 'shame!'"


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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 months ago

This is all a vast and constant embarrassment to the United States of America.

1.1  sixpick  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

Are you sure this is correct?  Did you count all of them yourself?

1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  sixpick @1.1    3 months ago

You have spread many a conspiracy yourself, so maybe you should count them. 

1.1.2  sixpick  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    3 months ago

At least you're having fun, I hope.

1.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

Only stupid and gullible people would feel embarrassment

1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 months ago

Everyone doesnt have to personally feel embarrassment for him to be an embarrassment. His twitter output is a clown show. Period. 

1.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  WallyW @1.2    2 months ago
Only stupid and gullible people would feel embarrassment

Trump doesn't appear embarrassed, but maybe you're right.  Hard to tell with an already orange face..

Trout Giggles
1.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.2    2 months ago

Stupid people are too stupid to know how to be embarassed

1.2.4  cjcold  replied to  WallyW @1.2    2 months ago

Only stupid and gullible people don't  feel embarrassment (which explains Trumpsters).

2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 months ago

In September, an obscure Twitter account promoting a fringe belief about an anti-Trump cabal within the government tweeted out a hashtag: #FakeWhistleblower.

It was typical for the anonymous account, which traffics in far-right content and a conspiracy theory known as QAnon, some of whose adherents think that satanic pedophiles control the “deep state.” The Federal Bureau of Investigation recently labeled QAnon a potential domestic terror threat.

Still, that did not stop others, including a Republican congressional candidate, from quickly picking up the hashtag and tweeting it. Within a week, hundreds of QAnon believers and “MAGA” activists had joined in, posting memes and bogus reports to undermine the complaint by a government whistle-blower that President Trump had pressed Ukraine’s leader for dirt on former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son.

.....Such is the frenetic life cycle of conspiracy-driven propaganda, fakery and hate in the age of the first Twitter presidency. Mr. Trump, whose own tweets have warned of deep-state plots against him, accused the House speaker of treason and labeled Republican critics “human scum,” has helped spread a culture of suspicion and distrust of facts into the political mainstream.

The president is also awash in an often toxic torrent that sluices into his Twitter account — roughly 1,000 tweets per minute, many intended for his eyes. Tweets that tag his handle, @realDonaldTrump, can be found with hashtags like #HitlerDidNothingWrong, #IslamIsSatanism and #WhiteGenocide. While filters can block offensive material, the president clearly sees some of it, because he dips into the frothing currents and serves up noxious bits to the rest of the world.

By retweeting suspect accounts, seemingly without regard for their identity or motives, he has lent credibility to white nationalists, anti-Muslim bigots and obscure QAnon adherents like VB Nationalist, an anonymous account that has promoted a hoax about top Democrats worshiping the Devil and engaging in child sex trafficking.

“I’ve been retweeted by the President of the United States, President Trump!” replied VB Nationalist, who gained thousands of followers after the high-level boost and took it as a sign of encouragement, adding, “Tell me again, how he doesn’t care about us.”

To assess this unprecedented moment, The New York Times examined Mr. Trump’s interactions with Twitter since he took office, reviewing each of his more than 11,000 tweets and the hundreds of accounts he has retweeted, tracking the ways he is exposed to information and replicating what he is likely to see on the platform. The result, including new data analysis and previously unreported details, offers the most comprehensive view yet of a virtual world in which the president spends significant time mingling with extremists, impostors and spies.

Fake accounts tied to intelligence services in China, Iran and Russia had directed thousands of tweets at Mr. Trump, according to a Times analysis of propaganda accounts suspended by Twitter. Iranian operatives tweeted anti-Semitic tropes, saying that Mr. Trump was “being controlled” by global Zionists, and that pulling out of the Iran nuclear treaty would benefit North Korea. Russian accounts tagged the president more than 30,000 times, including in supportive tweets about the Mexican border wall and his hectoring of black football players. Mr. Trump even retweeted a phony Russian account that said, “We love you, Mr. President!”

In fact, Mr. Trump has retweeted at least 145 unverified accounts that have pushed conspiracy or fringe content, including more than two dozen that have since been suspended by Twitter. Tinfoil-hat types and racists celebrate when Mr. Trump shares something they promote. After he tweeted his support for white farmers in South Africa, replies included “DONALD IS KING!” and “No black man can develop land.”

In July, Mr. Trump retweeted a post from an unverified account that accused Obama supporters of orchestrating protests to sabotage Mr. Trump’s presidency.

The message was also retweeted by a handful of Russian-controlled troll accounts.

In all, the president has retweeted 217 accounts that have not been verified by Twitter.

At least 145 of these accounts have pushed conspiracy or extremist content, including more than two dozen that have since been suspended by Twitter.

The president gets some of his questionable material on Twitter from the 47 accounts he follows that show up in his feed, a curated timeline of tweets that come mostly from his family, celebrities, Fox News hosts and Republican politicians, some of whom in turn follow Twitter accounts that promote QAnon or express anti-Islam or white nationalist views.

QAnon-related accounts have potentially migrated to the president’s iPhone courtesy of retweets by Donald Trump Jr., the Fox News anchor Maria Bartiromo and the conservative commentator Eric Bolling, all of whom Mr. Trump follows. The younger Mr. Trump has also retweeted Russian intelligence operatives pushing divisive stories about immigration and voter fraud.

Mr. Trump retweeted the account @10_gop, which was run by Russian intelligence and was later banned by Twitter.

Source: Twitter
Trolls and fringe elements quickly figured out that the best way to reach Mr. Trump is to appeal to his ego. Last year, an anonymous account with a profile photo of the actor Kurt Russell and posts promoting QAnon tagged Mr. Trump in a tweet, declaring, “You’re the greatest President of my lifetime, Sir.” It was not really Mr. Russell, but Mr. Trump retweeted it with a “Thank you!,” helping the account add 2,900 followers that day, before Twitter eventually suspended it.

Authentic or not, the most fervent MAGA and QAnon accounts — at least 23,000 of his followers have QAnon references in their profiles — form a dependable Greek chorus that exploits the tricks of the medium to amplify the president’s message. Mr. Trump benefits from the activism of his online supporters and the platform’s algorithms, which tend to reward the most partisan content within digital communities.

Mr. Trump retweeted three videos from a British far-right figure in 2017 purportedly showing Muslims committing acts of violence. Each of the videos was either highly misleading or was posted with a false description. The account had been retweeted by Ann Coulter, whom he followed on Twitter at the time.

The president follows several Fox News commentators, who provide a constant stream of support for him and attacks against his opponents.

His mentions contain thousands of messages like these every day — a near-infinite supply of tweets attacking him, promoting extremist conspiracy theories and proclaiming support for him.

Since the dawn of the internet, the nation’s leaders have been largely sheltered from the storm of disinformation and bile that churns on its fringes. Social media barely existed during Bill Clinton’s presidency, George W. Bush’s reference to “the Google” betrayed his unfamiliarity and Barack Obama chafed at being denied an iPhone but agreed to it.

But with the arrival of Mr. Trump in the Oval Office, Twitter managed to connect the ultimate seat of power to the darkest corners of the web for the first time. There is little evidence that Mr. Trump harbors concerns about promoting accounts that traffic in fake or inflammatory material.

The White House declined to comment for this article and turned down an interview request with the president. But at a White House “social media summit” in July that brought together far-right activists and provocateurs, Mr. Trump expressed appreciation for the fodder he sampled on Twitter.

“The crap that you think of,” he said, “is unbelievable.”

......Mr. Trump’s campaign to sow doubts about Mr. Obama’s birthplace, as he was considering running for president himself in 2012, showcased his talent for propagating a useful lie. It also overlapped with his growing presence on Twitter.

When his account was created in 2009, the three-year-old platform was just beginning to extend its reach beyond a community of journalists, techies and other early adopters. Over time, as high-profile public figures joined and Twitter allowed for longer messages, its influence grew as a forum for people to comment in real time about live events, world leaders to make official pronouncements and celebrities to interact with fans. Twitter said earlier this year that it had 126 million daily active users.

For Mr. Trump, a Twitter account quickly proved useful for promoting himself, sounding off about politics and, eventually, amplifying his attacks on Mr. Obama. By the time he started tweeting the birther smear in November 2011, his fans had already been doing the same, creating memes and hashtags like #FakeBirthCertificate, first used for that purpose in April 2011 by a supporter who cited Mr. Trump in the tweet.

After Mr. Trump started tweeting on his own in early 2013 — he previously had help from an assistant — he was soon recycling misinformation. He retweeted an anti-Obama account that had tweeted at him, “The birth certificate that you forced Obama to show is a computer generated forgery.” And he spun conspiracies within conspiracies, tweeting: “How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s ‘birth certificate’ died in plane crash today. All others lived.”

Mr. Trump’s experience using Mr. Obama as a punching bag made him adept at weaponizing what he found on Twitter when he decided to run for president. As his following grew, so did his ability to give prominence to objectionable material and — intentionally or not — those responsible for it.

In early 2016, he twice retweeted an obscure white supremacist account, @WhiteGenocideTM, that had directed a tweet at him ridiculing Jeb Bush, an opponent in the Republican primary. The since-suspended account, which regularly posted neo-Nazi propaganda and listed its location as “Jewmerica,” gained hundreds of followers in the days after Mr. Trump’s retweets.

By the time he faced off against Hillary Clinton, a perfect storm had coalesced on a more polarized and partisan Twitter — bringing together activists and trolls practiced at spreading conspiracy theories and hate, and Russian intelligence operatives seeking to foment discord. A how-to manual titled “Advanced Meme Warfare” circulated online with instructions for creating material to help the Trump campaign by trashing the Clintons.

“The idea is to stack up so much doubt, emotional appeals, and circumstantial evidence ON TOP of facts that we create a landslide of anti-Hill sentiment that permeates through society,” it said.

As memes ricocheted around Twitter, Mr. Trump frequently retweeted them and made use of hashtags like #CrookedHillary. After he won the election, Mr. Trump was asked if he would continue being combative on Twitter once he settled into the White House. In an interview with “60 Minutes,” he defended his tweeting as “nothing you should be ashamed of,” but pledged to change his tone as president.

“I’m going to do very restrained, if I use it at all,” Mr. Trump said. “I’m going to do very restrained.”

Dark Undercurrents
The implications of Mr. Trump’s Twitter habit became apparent early in his presidency. In short order, he was railing about “fake news,” questioning the findings that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and peddling the fiction that millions of illegal ballots had cost him the popular vote.

Beyond his own tweets, the president stepped up his practice of retweeting others, sharing anti-Muslim videos posted by a British far-right figure who had been retweeted by Ann Coulter. (He later stopped following Ms. Coulter after she criticized him for not making progress on the Mexican border wall.)

That episode highlighted one of the ways the president sees information on Twitter. His feed regularly contains tweets from his son, Donald Jr., who follows and retweets alt-right figures like Stefan Molyneux, a Canadian who pushes “white genocide” conspiracy theories and has promoted white nationalists on his YouTube channel.

The younger Mr. Trump has also followed Lauren Southern, another Canadian right-wing activist who has promoted the “great replacement” theory that white populations are being overrun by nonwhite immigrants with the help of global elites. In May, the president retweeted a post in which she complained that far-right voices were being suspended on social media.

....Six people the president follows — including Dan Scavino, the White House social media director — in turn follow Terrence K. Williams, a comedian who has been retweeted by Mr. Trump frequently. Among the retweets was a phony smear claiming that a Muslim congresswoman had partied on the anniversary of Sept. 11, and a conspiracy theory linking the Clintons to the suicide of the imprisoned sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Beyond the people he follows, there is another potential pathway to the president on Twitter — his “mentions,” the surging stream of tweets and replies that are directed at him by tagging his handle.

Fake accounts that Twitter identified as being run by foreign intelligence agencies have made frequent use of this tactic to try to get his attention: Russian accounts targeted Mr. Trump with tweets making the false assertion that Russia did not hack the Democratic National Committee’s emails. A Chinese account directed a tweet at him calling CNN “goofy commies.” And an Iranian account heckled him, saying, “Every morning that American people wakeup, they are nervous about your new tweets.”

The odds of his seeing a tagged post amid the deluge are slim, in part because Twitter’s algorithms try to screen out objectionable material and his account may employ filters. Some of his Twitter activity is also managed by Mr. Scavino. Still, Mr. Trump spends time looking at tweets that mention him or hashtags that interest him.

The content he chooses to retweet is similar to his own: mostly partisan attacks and praise for himself, with occasional inflammatory material mixed in. While it is not always clear whether his retweets are intended to endorse their authors, the president is effectively launching those accounts into the public eye.

On St. Patrick’s Day last March, while awaiting the conclusion of the Mueller report, Mr. Trump went on a daylong Twitter tirade, batting out more than 30 tweets that appear to have come from extended immersion in the streams flowing through his account.

The morning dawned with a 6:01 a.m. barb from Donald Trump Jr. — “So many stains on the #GhostofJohnMcCain” — presaging several tweets from the president an hour later attacking the deceased senator over old grudges. At the same time, amid a rapidly building flood of mentions, there was a plea directed at him to “reverse the replacement” of white people, a tweet from an account with an anti-Semitic name demanding Fox News undo the suspension of the host Jeanine Pirro for anti-Muslim comments, and hundreds of references to QAnon.

The president shared a conspiracy-minded post by William Craddick, a right-wing writer who peddled the “pizzagate” hoax that Democratic politicians secretly ran a child-trafficking ring out of a Washington pizzeria. “Russiagate,” Mr. Craddick wrote, “was designed in part to help the UK counter Russian influence by baiting the United States into taking a hard line against them.” And Mr. Trump sent out a tweet by Jack Posobiec, another pizzagate promoter, linking to a news story about Latino gang members stabbing and burning a teenager.

By nightfall, Mr. Trump had retweeted an obscure QAnon follower who, a few weeks earlier, had pushed the Democratic-pedophilia smear. His retweet of that account — whose profile image is a stylized “Q” wearing a red MAGA hat — drew notice on the online message boards of 4chan, which were abuzz with speculation that the president had tacitly approved of QAnon theories.

The binge ended at 9 p.m., when Mr. Trump tweeted, “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Promoting Conspiracies
QAnon entered the public consciousness in October 2017, when someone using the code name “Q” began posting on 4chan, claiming to have secret knowledge of a conspiracy within a Democrat-controlled “deep state” to oust Mr. Trump in a coup.

According to Q’s groundless theory, Mr. Trump was aware of the plot and was quietly working to unravel it with Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, using the Russia investigation as a cover to sweep up the perpetrators through mass arrests. The most extreme adherents of what became known as QAnon — short for “Q Anonymous” — also postulate that the deep state is part of a global network of corrupt elites involved in Satanism, pedophilia and cannibalism.

Remarkably, this conspiracy would migrate from the dark fringes of social media and into conservative political circles, where it took root among a segment of Mr. Trump’s most fervent supporters. People holding Q signs have shown up at Trump rallies, and the “Q” symbol found its way into a “Women for Trump” 2020 campaign video.

Last year, two QAnon disciples were arrested in separate episodes, and in May the F.B.I. included QAnon in an intelligence bulletin warning of potential violence stemming from “anti-government, identity-based and fringe political conspiracy theories,” particularly as the 2020 election approaches.

There are few places where QAnon’s visibility has been greater than on Twitter, where Mr. Trump has helped propagate it. Although Mr. Trump does not follow any QAnon-related accounts, some in his Twitter circle do.

Bill Mitchell, a conservative podcaster who promotes QAnon, is followed by nine people whom the president follows and has potentially appeared in his feed more than a dozen times. The president has frequently retweeted him, including one post advancing the discredited suggestion that Mr. Obama wiretapped Mr. Trump’s phones in 2016.

In an email to the Times, Mr. Mitchell said he considered the president’s retweets “a hat-tip without an overt endorsement.” He believes that the president is deliberately provocative on Twitter to keep political enemies off balance and unable to “think strategically,” he said.

“Through his tweets, President Trump keeps the Democrats and media in a perpetually heightened emotional state, in this case offense and anger,” he wrote, adding that he respected QAnon’s leaders as “patriots and Trump supporters.”

More than 50 accounts that have QAnon references in their profiles — and dozens more that do not but also promote the conspiracy — appeared among those followed by Donald Trump Jr.; Ms. Bartiromo; Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee; Katrina Pierson, a Trump campaign adviser; Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio; and a handful of others who are all, in turn, followed by the president.

There is no indication that these people, who collectively follow thousands of accounts, are aware of the QAnon presence that lurks there, much less support it.

But the potential for QAnon accounts to appear in the presidential feed underscores the viral nature of disinformation on Twitter, where a tweet can hatch on the fringes, hopscotch through layers of accounts and, aided by hashtags and bots, gain wide currency.

On Thursday evening, a QAnon promoter tweeted an unsubstantiated yarn that years ago he overheard a key witness in the impeachment inquiry bad-mouthing America and talking up “Obama & globalism.” QAnon accounts passed it around, and by the next morning it had been retweeted by Mr. Posobiec, who in turn was retweeted by Donald Trump Jr. — in less than 24 hours, the story had wormed its way into the president’s Twitter circle.

And it has happened before. During a busy Sunday morning of tweeting in August, Ms. Bartiromo retweeted an anonymous account called @QBlueSkyQ that had posted a series of conspiratorial messages about the Russia investigation, along with a video snippet of her Fox interview with George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign aide arrested in the scandal.

Even a glance at @QBlueSkyQ’s profile would have revealed that it was a die-hard QAnon account. It has tweeted doctored images and fake memes promoting a falsehood that top Democrats sexually torture children to harvest adrenochrome — a chemical derived from adrenaline — for a life-extending elixir. The @QBlueSkyQ retweet was one of at least a half-dozen times Ms. Bartiromo helped circulate such accounts, though none of the posts dealt with the QAnon conspiracy directly. Ms. Bartiromo declined to comment.

Hoaxes promoted by QAnon

QAnon accounts have also been retweeted by Mr. Bolling, a former Fox News commentator. Mr. Bolling said that he had no idea any account he retweeted was connected to QAnon, and that it was unfair to expect him to “vet every account that I retweet.”

“I wouldn’t have done it had I known,” he said. “I have nothing to do with QAnon.”

Mr. Bolling retweeted an anonymous QAnon account called @K12Lioness several times, most of it partisan political material and all unrelated to the Q conspiracy. But in between the run-of-the-mill tweets that caught his attention, the account was also pumping out vile memes and messages from the deepest fringes of the QAnon universe, like this post in June:

“The Democrats have lost their minds (adrenochrome) eating baby parts. MY GOD Americans WAKE UP!!”

Deploying the Trolls
Mr. Trump was two weeks from his inauguration in January 2017 when he tweeted, “So how and why are they so sure about hacking if they never even requested an examination of the computer servers?”

It would be the start of a relentless campaign, continuing to the present, to dispute that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election. Eventually, the narrative would merge with another — that Mr. Biden intervened in Ukraine to protect his son’s business interests — in the now-infamous phone call in which Mr. Trump pressed Ukraine’s president to search for the D.N.C.’s email server, implying without evidence that it was somewhere in his country.

That effort began within days of Mr. Biden’s official campaign announcement in April, when a Trump supporter tweeted a meme of Mr. Biden with the words, “China & Ukraine, Quid Pro Joe.” The post prompted another Trump fan to put a hashtag to use: #QuidProJoe. The #QuidProJoe and #FakeWhistleblower hashtags had both been created years earlier for issues unrelated to Mr. Biden and Ukraine, but were dusted off and put into service by Trump supporters.

The #QuidProJoe hashtag remained relatively dormant until a few weeks later, when it was retweeted seven times by a pro-Trump, bot-like account that cranks out more than 100 tweets a day, including QAnon and fervent anti-Democratic material. The hashtag steadily gained currency, and by September, when news erupted of the whistle-blower complaint filed a month earlier, it was part of a growing arsenal of social media tools seized on by Mr. Trump’s supporters, including Donald Jr.

A slew of hashtags — nearly all of them created by anonymous, unverified accounts, some connected to QAnon — have been deployed on Twitter in recent months attacking the impeachment inquiry, and in particular Representative Adam Schiff, the California Democrat who leads the House Intelligence Committee. Many have crude names, like #LyingSackOfSchiff, #SchiffForBrains and #FullOfSchiff.

So far, none of those hashtags has gotten a presidential tweet. But every day, Mr. Trump offers his Twitter fans reason for hope.

On Oct. 19, between tweeting “Shifty Schiff is Corrupt” and retweeting an anonymous account that regularly traffics in alt-right and Russian propaganda, the president tweeted out a fresh hashtag being pushed by his supporters: #StopTheCoup.

Twitter went wild.

2.1  sixpick  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 months ago

Remember when Shifty Schiff said he had evidence Trump colluded with Russia, oh a bunch of times long before 2019.  Well, he never produced it.  Remember when Shifty Schiff said they had not had any contact with the Whistleblower?  Well, it appears he lied.  Can you believe that?  Remember when the Obama Administration spied on the Trump campaign and all the MSM went crazy and called it a conspiracy theory?  Well, they lied.  You do know the Bar Investigation is now a criminal investigation, don't you?  Wonder why?  Oh, I know, Barr is a Trump puppet.  How much of the information that we now know would have been divulged had Hillary won the election?  Now that's a laugh, isn't it?  Obama's Administration was very corrupt and many of his holdovers are still in government positions. 

People use to have to prove they could take care of themselves before getting visas in this country and Trump did, I guess an Executive Order to make that the case again, but a judge appointed by Obama overruled it.  Guess what.  The judge is married to a United States Congress woman.  Of course she is a Democrat.  Surprised huh?  Oh my my, I'm so happy we are at least finding out a little more about what really went on during the 2016 election, aren't you?  The truth will set you free.  Whatever it is, I'll take it, won't you?

2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  sixpick @2.1    3 months ago
The truth will set you free.  Whatever it is, I'll take it, won't you?

Over the years, you have posted more untrue things on this forum than anyone could count. 

You commented yesterday that the 'transcript' of the phone call between Trump and Zelensky was a fake, or was I imagining things? 

2.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 months ago
The country is losing its mind. 

Nah, just a few left wing loons have suffered that self inflicted injury.

Is there a point being made in all that verbiage?

3  seeder  JohnRussell    3 months ago
1,710: promoted conspiracies.

Trump has promoted conspiracies with his tweets 1700 times since he took office.  It is bizarre, incredibly ignorant and divisive, and utterly indefensible for a US president. 

The country is losing its mind. 

Just Jim NC TttH
3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 months ago

Sorry John but I don't think it's the a whole. I think you know which sector(s) are.

3.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    3 months ago

No, the country is losing it's mind. Every editorial board in the nation should be calling for Trump to resign, and that is not happening. 

Dean Moriarty
3.1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    3 months ago

They should return to reporting the news without injecting their opinions. 

3.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.2    2 months ago
They should return to reporting the news without injecting their opinions.

FoxNews would be off the air within hours then.

Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.4  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.2    2 months ago
They should return to reporting the news without injecting their opinions

I don't think that applies to editorial boards...except perhaps in countries where citizens are not permitted to express their opinions.

3.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.3    2 months ago

Along with CNN, MSNBC, and a host of others.

Dean Moriarty
3.1.6  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.4    2 months ago

Maybe we should stop calling them newspapers and start calling them by a more appropriate name opinion papers. 

3.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.5    2 months ago

Along with CNN, MSNBC, and a host of others.

Maybe, but they would follow along months later, or longer.

4  bugsy    3 months ago

I'm curious....the seed states 851 attacks against minority groups, but of course, no examples are listed.

John, you have never shown proof of any of your conspiracy theories. Could you provide a couple of these tweets that attack minority groups. I am not on twitter, so I don't follow the President.

Now, before you attempt to post something, make sure they are ACTUAL attacks and not something you or the author did not like.

Thanks and toodles...

4.1  WallyW  replied to  bugsy @4    3 months ago


4.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @4.1    2 months ago

Removed for context

4.1.2  bugsy  replied to  WallyW @4.1    2 months ago

I don't even know what you posted because SP was too quick to delete it before I saw it. I gave you a thumbs up anyway because I'm sure it was right on target.

4.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4    2 months ago

Bugsy, let me be blunt.   It is the NYT vs. Bugsy. 

I believe the NYT over Bugsy.  100 times out of 100. 

No offense. 

Dean Moriarty
4.2.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    2 months ago

The article you seeded here is actually an opinion piece by Axios of the NYT article disguised as a news report. It is such an embarrassment they didn’t even include the name of the author. 

4.2.3  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    2 months ago

Who cares who you believe? Of course you believe the NYT over the truth. Now, if you could, please post any of those tweets that are considered attacking minority groups. It is a simple request.

You can do it.......right?

BTW...I never take offense to any of the errors you make...there are just so many, not worth the effort to get upset about them.

4.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4.2.3    2 months ago

Bugsy, you always bring a toothpick to a knife fight. 

It would be comical if people like you werent responsible for the 'popularity' of the piece of shit in the Oval Office. 

4.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.4    2 months ago
It would be comical if people like you werent responsible for the 'popularity'

Oh, you mean the millions and millions of people who elected the President?

Elect someone else if you can in 2020!

4.2.6  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.4    2 months ago
Bugsy, you always bring a toothpick to a knife fight. 

So you insult instead of posting anything requested. Why????

Because you have nothing.

4.2.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4.2.6    2 months ago



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" @ thumpmomma : I likewise saw militant Muslims burning our flag and burning George Bush photos and figures, right after 9/11! Not#here!"

Donald J. Trump

Let's take a closer look at that birth certificate. @ BarackObama was described in 2003 as being "born in Kenya." http://  


Shocker! Obama still 'Kenyan-born' in 2007 - WND

While some quickly dismissed as an anomaly yesterday's explosive revelation that Barack Obama's former literary agency billed him as "born in Kenya" back in 1991 in connection with a book he never...
That took about 30 seconds, and is still a waste of time. 
4.2.8  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.7    2 months ago

Well, let's tear these apart one by one. Very easy to do These are not attacks, these are speaking the truth.

First one...Don't know when it was date, but probably during the Obama admin. We still see today many African American men wearing their pants around their hips. It is a stereotype that is not wrong.

Second one....He did not attack a group, he correctly commented about the title of a television show. Liberals would be shitting themselves if a show called whitish was even thought about.

Third one...Muslims DID burn our flag and tear up pictures of Bush after 9/11, and continue to do the same today, substituting Trump for Bush. He expressed the truth, not attack anyone.

Fourth one...What part of the chart is wrong. No attack, only truth.

Fifth one...No idea what it is

Last one...Obama's family confirmed Obama was born in Kenya.

You see, John, he did not attack anyone, he wrote the truth about the subject at hand.

Now, I ask you again. Can you please post anything where the President attacked a group of minorities. Telling the truth is not attacking.

Thanks again...

4.2.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4.2.8    2 months ago

Your ignorant comments do not surprise me at all Bugsy, which is why I prefer not to bother with you.  Just one

Trump Retweets Bogus Crime Graphic

By   Robert Farley

Posted on   November 23, 2015   | Updated on November 24, 2015

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump retweeted a bogus graphic purporting to show the percentage of whites killed by blacks and other homicide data delineated by race. Almost every figure in the graphic is wrong, some of them dramatically so.

Trump’s Twitter account   retweeted   the graphic on Nov. 22 without any explanation. The image shows a man hidden behind a bandanna pointing a gun under the heading “USA Crime Statistics — 2015” and next to statistics that purport to show homicides by race.


falsestats.png 193w, 473w" sizes="(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" > We’re not going to speculate about how originators of the graphic may have twisted data to come up with incorrect figures, or what intent may have been behind those errors — though   others   have .

We’ll just provide some correct figures according to the latest data available on all homicides from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s   Uniform Crime Reports data, for 2014 . The 2015 data won’t be released publicly until the fall of 2016.

In cases when the race of the perpetrator and victim were known, among the 3,021 white victims of murder in 2014, 2,488 of them were killed by white offenders, and 446 were killed by black offenders. Among the 2,451 black murder victims in 2014, 187 of them were killed by white offenders, and 2,205 were killed by black offenders. Here’s how the percentages work out:

Blacks killed by whites: 7.6 percent.

Whites killed by whites: 82.4 percent.

Whites killed by blacks: 14.8 percent.

Blacks killed by blacks: 90 percent.

As those figures show, the graphic’s claims about “whites killed by blacks” and “whites killed by whites” aren’t just a little off — they are grossly inaccurate. The data from   2013   is nearly identical, so none of the 2014 figures is a one-year anomaly.


If I wanted to waste my time, I could disprove all the nonsense you spewed in your reply, but I try not to chase after repeated nonsense. The first time, yeah, not the fiftieth. 

4.2.10  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.9    2 months ago
which is why I prefer not to bother with you

+Nice personal attack, but not surprising. However, you respond to me....every....single...time...

"If I wanted to waste my time, I could disprove all the nonsense you spewed in your reply, but I try not to chase after repeated nonsense"

Translated to liberalese...."OK, I still have nothing. Everything you stated was correct. Sorry for wasting your time."

4.2.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4.2.10    2 months ago
+Nice personal attack, but not surprising. However, you respond to me....every....single...time...

"If I wanted to waste my time, I could disprove all the nonsense you spewed in your reply, but I try not to chase after repeated nonsense"

Translated to liberalese...."OK, I still have nothing. Everything you stated was correct. Sorry for wasting your time."

Everything you said was wrong. What do you prefer I do, congratulate you? 

You said that the crime chart Trump retweeted was true and accurate. In reality it is anything but. And you wonder why people give you and Trump a hard time. 

4.2.12  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.11    2 months ago
Everything you said was wrong.

OK, so maybe the chart was off. I refuted the other 5 "attacks" you claimed and you can't defend them.

Face it and admit it. You know deep down President Trump will be your President for 5 more years and you are letting the pain hit you little by little instead of all at once next November.

Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  bugsy @4    2 months ago
I am not on twitter, so I don't follow the President.

I'm not either.  One doesn't have to be on Twitter to follow Trump's every waking thought.  We are hit in the face with it morning noon and night.  Hells bells, people in his own administration have publicly protested his foolish addiction to Twitter.  Just yesterday, he reportedly tweeted,  'You should check out the size of this turd...I feel like I just gave birth...ouch!...……...'  Kellyanne Conway then tweeted that the President was tweeting about his turd because he knew his followers are concerned with every aspect of his alternative health, and crave updates regarding his alternative bodily functions.

5  Ronin2    2 months ago

Trump must have learned from Obama.

Seems like old times, perhaps or maybe just a repeat performance. Former President Barack Obama gave an overseas speech 48 hours ago in front of substantial crowd. He had another audience though. Grabien News also monitored the speech, and here’s what it found.

“President Obama was in Germany on Saturday, ostensibly to speak about ‘community leadership and civic engagement’ on behalf of his eponymous Obama Foundation, but Berliners soon discovered his main topic of interest was Barack Obama. Obama talking about himself in an almost obsessive manner is no new phenomenon, but today he shattered his own records. Over the course of a 90-minute town hall with ‘emerging leaders,’ Obama mentioned himself an eye-popping 467 times,” the news organization said.

The Grabien analysis noted that Mr. Obama had used the just the word “I” more than 300 times with dozens more references to “me” and “my” among the myriad ways a person can refer to himself.

Yes, well.

“The post-presidential era of his life seems to be a bit of a challenge to the ego of Barack Hussein Obama. Never shy about referring to himself while president, now that man in the White House is reversing his policies and spectacularly succeeding, it’s got to be hard on his self-esteem. And let’s not forget the psychological pressure that may be building in the wake of the collapse of the Russia Hoax and the possible investigation of its origins,” writes Thomas Lifson, editor and publisher of American Thinker, after reviewing the Grabien findings.

But Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!!

Seems like the last 8 years never existed to the left. When it comes to narcissism Obama doesn't take a back seat to anyone, including Trump.

Split Personality
5.1  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @5    2 months ago
Overall, we rate Grabien Right biased based on story selection and sourcing that significantly favors the right. We also rate them borderline Questionable for factual reporting due to failed checks and use of sources that have very poor track records with fact checkers.

Just saying, considering the source, Grabien, and quotes from American Thinker,

psychological assessments are the last thing they should be discussing, lol.

5.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @5.1    2 months ago

I think Grabien is mainly known for its video clips from political media, which mostly appeal to the right.

They do have a section though where there are articles. A short sample

44 Obama Era EPA Scandals the Media Ignored
News & PoliticsScience & Nature
List: 60 Hate Crime Hoaxes
News & Politics
Biased much? lol. 
5.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @5.1    2 months ago

Not to be rude, but I thought it was the site policy that moderators are not supposed to moderate seeds they also participate in.

Maybe you can clarify?

5.1.3  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    2 months ago

It may be biased, but is there anything in there that is wrong?

5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @5.1.2    2 months ago

Moderators are allowed to participate and moderate.

What made you think differently?

5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    2 months ago

Gee, maybe it was this from the site itself???

Members will operate as moderators on an appointed or volunteer basis. Moderators will be comprised of two permanent members, Perrie Halpern and A. Mac and a suitable number of rotating members based on need. All members with at least 3 months on NewsTalkers and no major infractions, can qualify to be a moderator. Moderator comments will be made in purple. Moderators must recuse themselves in articles where they have been actively commenting.

5.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    2 months ago

I believe that every one of the moderators, including Perrie herself, have at times moderated on articles they have commented on and commented on articles they have moderated.  They dont have enough moderators always logged on to totally stay off articles as commenters, and I dont think they should. They dont get paid and have no obligation to refrain from commenting on topics they want to comment on. 

I wouldnt like it (not being able to comment) and there is no reason to expect them to. 

5.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    2 months ago

Looks like 5.1.5 answered your question.

Thanks, Texan...

5.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.6    2 months ago

Read the post I responded to. I answered the question quite handily.

What you personally like or wish for is not relevant.

5.1.9  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.6    2 months ago

Then Perrie needs to delete the below rule cited by Texan, and change the rule that moderators are allowed to moderate and participate in seeds.

We get tagged for not following the rules. No one should be exempt from that.

5.1.10  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    2 months ago

You haven't answered my question. The site might be biased, but which of the items listed are false?

5.1.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5.1.10    2 months ago

Take your nonsense somewhere else. 

5.1.12  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @5.1    2 months ago

Prove he was wrong, go ahead I will wait.

Obama is every bit the egomaniac in his own right that Trump is. He couldn't wait to take the credit for anything or everything. Unless it was bad that is. Then it was all Bush's and Republican's fault.

5.1.13  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.11    2 months ago
Take your nonsense somewhere else. 

John, the "nonsense" you speak of is something you have never been able to disprove. When you are cornered with facts, you always come back with this.


5.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @5    2 months ago

I think Obama was a little full of himself, most national politicians are. 

What right wingers dont ever get though is the concept of "scale". 

Trump Praises Trump 2,026 Times

Almost one fifth of Trumps tweets are some form of him praising himself, usually with words like "the greatest"  or "the best ever" or "no one has ever seen anything like what we've accomplished"  bla bla bla. 

In the real world, people who incessantly talk like that, every day, are considered assholes by the rest of us. 

Obama never talked about himself like that. 

You don't understand scale and proportion, evidently. 

5.2.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    2 months ago

Obama made it about him over 400 times in one speech in April.

I wonder why you did not complain about that s/

Just Jim NC TttH
5.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  bugsy @5.2.1    2 months ago

" Obama loves to hear himself talk – about himself. In just 41 speeches so this year, not including this week's big speech at the United Nations , Obama has talked about himself nearly 1,200 times – 1,198 to be exact. (That breaks down to 1,121 “I”s and just 77 "me"s.)"

5.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    2 months ago

The scale was just fine.

As proven below Obama praised himself in far more than that speech. Obama was his own favorite subject, and he could talk for hours about himself.

5.3  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @5    2 months ago

So you are admitting Trump is as bad as Obama? In your view? For the record I think Obama was awesome.

6  Tacos!    2 months ago

Golly! So much Twitter angst! 

My advice is don't let these things upset you. Find a soothing hobby instead.

Paula Bartholomew
6.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tacos! @6    2 months ago

That is why I don't have Twitter, FB, or IG.  Being old is all the irritation, aggravation, and craziness that I can handle.


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