Trump: U.S. Will Designate Mexican Drug Cartels As Terrorists
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That will give greater power to deal with them.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump said in an interview aired on Tuesday that he will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists over their role in drug and human trafficking.
“They will be designated … I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process,” Trump said in an interview with conservative media personality Bill O’Reilly that aired on Tuesday.
Once a group is designated as a terrorist organization, under U.S. law it is illegal for people in the United States to knowingly offer support and its members cannot enter the country and may be deported. Financial institutions that become aware they have funds connected to the group must block the money and alert the U.S. Treasury Department.
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This is just another Trump thing to manufacture a "Real Problem".
It makes me wonder what criteria is used to determine if an organization is a terrorist group. I wonder if the Bloods, Crips and Latin Kings will be excluded.
Don't forget MS-13 -- they're relatively small in numbers probably the most violent of all.
The cartels thrive because of governmental corruption.
Are the cartels terrorists? No, but only in the sense that they are receiving profit from government corruption. But yes in the sense that they are purposefully inflicting terror, instability
and crime onto the general populace.
Is there a remedy? Legalization?
yes, put boot to ass
Are they inflicting terror it on Mexican citizens or Americans?
Everyone.
Both.
Yes.
Bullshit!
How so?
Are you saying the Cartels haven't ever inflected terror on American citizens?
Or they've never inflicted terror on Mexican citizens?
(Or do you actually believe they haven't ever terrorized either?)
Perhaps you believe that they are true "friends"-- just like Trump's BFF Kim Jung Un!
Trump calls Kim Jong Un a 'friend' while downplaying North Korean weapons testing
Please explain as in why you say it is BS. You obviously do not live on or anywhere near the AX/Mexico border like I do. As I have said in the past, I live literally 6 blocks from Mexico and hear automatic weapons fire routinely coming from Mexico. That American family that was massacred by the cartels a few month ago happened just few miles into Mexico from where I live. They brought the surviving injured family members through the port of entry through Douglas, AZ. I see the carnage caused by the cartels on a regular basis up close, do you? Somehow I very much doubt it. They are very much terrorists in every sense of the word!
No answer. Why am I not surprised?
They are terrorizers, to be sure, but legally calling them terrorists is a desperate reach. I get the desperation, but this is not going to be the answer to the problem.
Talk is cheap. Sure, call the cartels "Terrorists".
Name calling (as Trump is so fond of doing) will have no real effect on solving problems. Well, except on his "Base" who will believe that Trump's promises actually mean something.
Will he actually taken any effective action against the Cartels? Well, I'll believe it if I see it.
Why not? Maybe if Trump treats them real nice . . .like he did with Kin Jung Un, he can get the Cartels to pay for the Wall!!!
As he promised numerous times during his campaign-- Mexico's gonna pay for the Wall. And not just part of it but "The Whole Enchilada"!
We doubted him because we assumed he meant the Mexican gov't would pay. But maybe Trump is smarter than we think-- he knows that if he makes nice to them-- a tactic he used with great success with N Korea's Kim Jung Un-- the Cartels will pay for the Wall!)
Sadly, to many of our elected officials, it seems like it has become more a case of capitulation.
Just how are we going to combat these terrorists anyway? Will Mexico give us permission to send in troops or give a thumbs up for air strikes to mass exterminate them? Are the cartels going to go "Boo hoo hoo, the mean man called us a name." and just continue on? What is Trump's solution other than just adding a label?
This is key. It will affect how Americans in America act as well: Once a particular group is designated as a terrorist organization, under U.S. law it is illegal for people in the United States to knowingly offer support and its members cannot enter the country and may be deported.
Financial institutions that become aware they have funds connected to the group must block the money and alert the U.S. Treasury Department.
Excellent point!
And we all know that once something is declared "illegal"-- no one would ever do it again!
(And this is especially true of the Drug cartels. They are men of honor, and will no longer terrorize anyone . . .now that ..its actually ...illegal!
By building a wall of course. This is just another way Trump is trying to get money for his idiotic wall.
You hit that right on the head
How desperate
Well it might work. Now the Trump has done this we no longer have to worry about who gonna pay for the wall.
Now that the cartels have been declared terrorists, its obvious that now the drug cartels will pay for the Wall! (Because they are embarressed by being labeled 'terrorists" and by paying for the Wall the Cartels will once again be able to clear their good name (They will pay for the Wall00 just like Trump promised. In return Trump will then take away their terrorist label-- and we can all live happily ever after.
A true Win-win for everyone involved yet another accomplishment by the master negotiator and beloved president...the Great Donald Trump!
He will tweet nasty things about them on Twitter. (Perhaps that will solve the problem?)
Awesome and just like the boarder wall Mexico will pay for it too! /s This is about as dumb as, "Just say no."
As long as the demand is there there isn't much that is going to stop the drugs from coming in or being produced in the US.
The war on drugs has been a complete failure. Hopefully this might do some good.
The real terrorists are the street gangs here in the US. We should focus on eliminating them first.
good news. they will be caught up in this as well
that includes gangs / two birds - one stone
Starting with MS-13
Good point!
Once any activity is declared illegal, it will cease.
cease? no. become very expensive? yes.
cheers
We might be past that at this point. I saw recently that the cartels are expanding into ordinary agriculture. For example, in places, they are moving to take control of the avocado industry.
Inside the bloody cartel war for Mexico’s multibillion-dollar avocado industry
With the amount of money involved all systems set to protect the US against drugs is always at risk.
This story appeared yesterday.
Although UPS isn't an organization set to protect the public it shows the long reach of the drug gangs and how the money can get them into most anything.
This is something we usually criticize the Left for, but here the Right is in "the wrong" - at least legally (IMO).
Words have meaning and we shouldn't change the meaning to suit an agenda. To be clear, there's nothing wrong with the agenda here. By all means, let's go after the drug cartels. But they are not terrorists.
Terrorism is defined by law :
There's no political motivation behind the cartels. They are horrible, violent, sick in the head criminals with apparently no regard for human life, but mere criminals all the same. I don't see them promoting a political agenda beyond being able to do as they please to make money.
Labeling these criminals as terrorists will likely have ramifications beyond simply making it easier to fight them.
For example, if the cartels are defined as terrorists advancing a political agenda, then everyone who is victimized by them can arguably be said to be persecuted for political reasons. That would make many thousands of Mexican citizens eligible for asylum in the nearest safe country, which would be of course, the United States.
I'm guessing Trump hasn't been advised of that.
Like they aren't coming in anyways.