Greta Thunberg responds to Meat Loaf comment that she's been 'brainwashed'
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Via: perrie-halpern • 5 years ago • 152 commentsBy: Gwen Aviles
Greta Thunberg responded to singer Meat Loaf's assertion that she has been "brainwashed" on climate change by stating that the issue of environmental injustice extends well beyond him.
The "Bat Out of Hell" singer told the Daily Mail in a Jan. 1 interview that he does not believe in climate change, but rather, that he believes Thunberg, 17, has been "brainwashed."
"She has been brainwashed into thinking that there is climate change and there isn't," he said. "She hasn't done anything wrong but she's been forced into thinking that what she is saying is true."
Thunberg, who was named Time magazine's Person of the Year for 2019, responded to the musician on Twitter on Monday, writing that the focus shouldn't be placed on Meat Loaf or on herself.
"It’s not about what some people call me. It’s not about left or right," she tweeted. "It’s all about scientific facts. And that we’re not aware of the situation. Unless we start to focus everything on this, our targets will soon be out of reach."
Thunberg has become one of the world's most notable climate change activists. She used to protest alone outside the Swedish Parliament during school hours Fridays, but now is joined by thousands globally in a collective movement to fight climate change.
Despite her many supporters, Thunberg has been the recipient of criticism from high-profile figures and has even contemplated deleting her social media because of the onslaught of negative comments.
After Thunberg was named Time's Person of the Year, President Donald Trump mocked the activist on Twitter.
"So ridiculous. Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend!" Trump wrote. "Chill Greta, Chill!"
In response, Thunberg updated her Twitter bio to read: "A teenager working on her anger management problem. Currently chilling and watching a good old fashioned movie with a friend."
OK, I sure did not expect that friggin' Meatloaf would be going after little Greta, or talking about climate change, period. What a weird story!
Let me second that. Meatloaf? Greta Thunberg?
Do people really follow them?
Meatloaf has been very defensive on his Facebook page. Kinda fun to watch. Maybe he should take Ricky Gervais' advice and stay in his lane.
The lines and lanes on the roadway of life can get blurred when you’re seeing paradise by the dashboard light.
Maybe he should sleep on it .....
LMAO!!
So Meatloaf, the has been, is now bullying this young lady.
well, Trump was busy attempting to divert attention from his current distraction by attempting further distractions via proposed "war crimes".
pretty neeato whirled the GOP Zero Hero has brought US
Who the fuck calls themself meatloaf?
What a fucking bully.
Someone who obviously loves him some mashed potatoes
as i claim...WTF R U Babbling about now
again, where did i claim "democrats are so distracted from impeachment"
cause asz usual, you be toutin BS
again, WTF R U Talkin bout
Do not disagree with a kid that has aspergers.
That is not allowed in our society today. Ever!
Doing so will automatically make you a bad, bad person so shame on any of you who even thought about it.
Bad Meatloaf ..... bad!
did you read her tweet ?
She agrees with you.
Why do you and Trump defenders, disagree with Science ?
Yes, i was very clear. Meatloaf is a bad, bad man.
Poor Greta, the one who must not be disagreed with. Poor Greta, she has aspergers you know.
My nephew has aspergers and they do think differently than you or I. I think that should be taken into account and she is a child and not being disrespectful.
"How dare you"
'Nuff said
Yeah, that was my thought. Stomping around the world judging people isn't what I normally associate with "respectful."
Case closed!
Snort.
How dare she!
I agree with most of what you are saying and i'm probably not explaining myself well enough. My issue is with the people who are elevating her to climate guru messiah status. That's not really her fault but the fact remains she isn't all that like many of the climate fundamentalists are trying to bill her.
That said, any contention/expectation that she is above ANY criticism or scrutiny, simply because of her age or condition is misplaced and quite ridiculous IMO.
That is the way aspies talk. They don't understand social boundaries and that was not directed to a single individual, but a society at large.
Well, I wouldn't call her a climate guru messiah either. She is passionate about this because all aspies see the world very black and white.
I'm not saying that either, but an adult taking pot shots at a kid who has a developmental issue, isn't cool either.
Then maybe it was inappropriate for the people who gave her the stage to do so. Knowing she has this issues. Seems to me that was a positive to them so she can scold the whole world, have an excuse for it, and a shield from scrutiny. I really think it's a cheap trick and exploiting a young girl with a condition for a political talking point is about the lowest of the low.
I would say those disparaging and bullying this young lady are the lowest of the low.
I'm not so sure who truly has 'issues' here.
I'm not sure anyone actually gives a crap about what Meatloaf says about anything. This is barely even a news story.
Also he was on one of this 'presidents' loser reality TV shows.
What a loser! As a human being that is.
This isn't just any kid with a developmental issue. She or someone else has put her out there on the international stage in a big way. Regardless of her challenges blow back was an inevitability with the way she was presented. World Kumbayah moment not forthcoming.
I tend to agree with you John but this article doesn't.
Lots of people seem to care one way or another.
If anyone thinks she sends out her own tweets are highly delusional.
I don't know, she easily could be. Many Autistic folks operate at very high levels at some things and very low levels in others. It's a very individual thing IME.
I don't know. Usually when you hear people speak, they tend to dictate the same way, in this case tweet. She obviously is reading from a script, probably written by someone else, when she speaks.
I believe the same thing when "she" tweets.
Actually she talked her parents into the reality of AGW.
Autism spectrum disorder starts with low intelligence and goes to extremely high functioning people, but the one thing they all have in common is reading social cues and having a hard time reading people and situations.
The ones on the upper end of the spectrum do develop their own opinions and will not vary from it. My nephew very early on became a news junkie and became conservative without his family's intervention. His lack of judgment in social cues is giving him a very hard time in college since he expresses his opinions very much in his peer's faces.
I had read that, too.
And I thought coming back to school with a shaved head was “interesting” that must be very tough on the kid unless he’s at a conservative school
Poor Greta. In 8 years the world will be fine and she will be an under-educated has been, probably mooching off social services.
Actually, Greta has done quite well in school. Likely much better than science deniers.
I wonder if the same people who complain about Hollywood celebrities talking about politics and issues will complain about Meatloaf, who I believe still qualifies as a show business celebrity, however far down that particular food chain he may be.
Meatloaf is a very disturbed individual. Not unlike many celebrities.
Another white male with $45 million net worth and nothing to do all day except argue with people on facebook about not being a real celebrity any more.
Who is the other one? DeNiro lashing out like a rabid animal?
You just described how Trump has acted on more than one occasion.
Perhaps they just need hugs...
Hard to believe that asshole is worth $45 million. Must be inflating his wealth, like this 'president'
and his girth
Terry Gilliam, another seed.
Because it is pertinent to content on NT, OK with you?
We have another seed by Terry Gilliam who is lamenting how white men get picked on by #metoo and others.
Terry's worth $55 million and has quite a few accomplishments directing and acting in movies, some very strange,
most of them very funny, in a British humor kind of way.
There is no denying that Gilliam is an American born white boy who renounced his US citizenship in 2006
and now, just to gain attention ( new movie coming out) , claims he is a black lesbian internally.
Now that boy has race issues...
Just seems to me that rich white people like Ricky Gervais, Meatloaf, and Terry Gilliam seem to think that someone cares what they think.
I don't.
I don't think its Gervais that's the problem. He just spoke his mind to a group of people who consistently look down their noses at the folks who keep them in beans. Especially at the one's who are not of like mind with them.
This isn't a racial thing or a gender thing or even a partisan thing. Its an asshole thing and that can be any race, gender or politcal preference. I'm just guessing here i bet you laugh your ass off at Stephen Colbert doing the same thing nightly except he's always bagging on Trump and conservatives.
So there it is.
Well surprise, surprise, you would lose that bet even if I had to take a lie detector on Maury or Jerry to prove it.
Not in our repertoire, we watch Live PD, Dr. Pimple Popper, My feet are killing me, 48 hours and the whole range of murder
and HGTV. Sometimes the Science or History Channels
Oh and most every episode of Dr Phil with a healthy dose of Maury & Jerry so
we can assure each other in our advanced years that we are beyond reproach as parents, grandparents and citizens.
We each see enough news on the internet at work to stay informed of current events, there's no escaping it,
even on our cell phones.
So there it is.
Nope, your word is good enough for me. I stand corrected.
Oh and by the way ..... Dr Pimple Popper? Gross!
The foot doctor shows are much, much worse. lol
And that my friend has to be bad. The goo you see coming out of people on Dr PP is alien like sometimes.
No thx on the snaggle-foot ....
Our skin is the largest and strangest organ they say.
And how is that any different from people here who have nothing better to do all day than argue with liberals (or conservatives) about how stupid everyone on one side of the aisle is? (Which side depends upon their own biases.
(OK so most people here don't have $45 million-- but does that make it any different?)
Absolutely
I seriously doubt that Thunberg wrote anything. She has been groomed from day one by her activist parents. From day one when she skipped school it has been a orchestrated journey, within 6 months she was being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Oh let me rephrase that, I doubt "Greta" Thunberg wrote anything, once she is off script she looks like a deer in the headlight...
I didn't even know Meatloaf was still alive. I figured he od'd on Big Macs years ago.
Meatloaf is a vegan, seriously.
Best irony ever. I feel like a name change is in order. Vegloaf, maybe. Or Impossibleloaf.
Good one Tacos!
how about steaming loaf
So a fat guy with only one hit song (which was lame) has an opinion? Stop the presses!
Apparently NBC thinks he is important.
Slow news day.
This explains it. He's fucking delusional. Ugly motherfucker too.
Meat Loaf gave quite the interview to The Daily Mail this week, talking about everything from his sex life to climate change. The 72-year-old singer, real name Marvin Lee Aday, said he was always a ladies' man, even when he was a "fat motherf*****."
"Most of my songs are... well, true," he told the MailOnline. "They are story songs and I am really good at stories... I am a sex god, dear."
The "Two Out of Three Ain’t Bad" singer said he's lost 70 pounds by not eating "anything over 5g of fat and 3g of sugar." Meat Loaf went from weighing 256 pounds to 195 pounds, which is what he weighs today, but explained that courting women when he was larger was never a problem.
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"I can't use bad language but people would ask me, 'How can a fat motherf**** like you go out with all these good looking girls?' I said, 'because I am not going out thinking about what you are thinking about,'" he shared.
The rocker added that men today aren't doing "anything right."
"These days men don't open the doors, they don't do anything right. Truthfully, all they go out for is to get laid," he continued. "I've never done that. It's not my first option; never has been — and that's why I've gone out with all these good looking women."
The topic of conversation somehow shifted to climate change, with Meat Loaf — who worked with President Donald Trump on The Apprentice in 2010 — saying it's a hoax.
He also called out activist Greta Thunberg, who turns 17 on Friday.
"I feel for that Greta. She has been brainwashed into thinking that there is climate change and there isn't," he said. "She hasn't done anything wrong but she's been forced into thinking that what she is saying is true."
The only reason they went out with you was because you were a supposed 'rock star' and had money.
I am a sex god, dear.
He thinks he is a stud because his dog said so.
Greta Thunberg is sound and fury signifying nothing. Climate activism is all about forcing others to do something they do not want to do. Cloaking that Puritanical authoritarian excess in a facade of existential morality doesn't change the nature of the desire for power over society.
Climate change is a self correcting problem. Human activity changing the climate will ultimately begin killing humans. The anthropogenic influence of the dead is inconsequential. The plague of Hot Death will thin the human population just as did the Black Death. There won't be an energy consuming app for that. The anthropocene will be the shortest geological epoch in the history of the planet.
Replace that with this corrupt to the bone 'president' and his corrupt to the bone administration and gop and you've got something there.
That was very well stated
No it wasn't.
Or just about making the shit we do not so destructive. Not exactly a bad thing since we have only this one planet and we do not have a backup in any way shape or form.
Welcome to the entire concept of governance.
Yeah, but we aren't exactly designed for the self correction. There is this thing called extinction, and if the climate changes more rapidly than we, or the rest of life on Earth are able to respond, then fuck us.I mean shit, look at what a problem the extinction of the honeybees would cause us.
I'm surprised she responded, I mean who cares what Meatloaf or any other entertainment type (actors, singers, sports stars, politicians) have to say about anything.
Is he still alive? Honestly I kinda thought he has been dead for like 10 years.
The "Bat Out of Hell" singer told the Daily Mail in a Jan. 1 interview that he does not believe in climate change, but rather, that he believes Thunberg, 17, has been "brainwashed."
GREAT SCOTT!
GREAT SCOTT!
Hmmm....
I wonder...am I the only one here who...
Oh... nevermind!
(See also: " Callbacks ")
Where is Buzz when you need him . . . ?
Has actually participated in The Rocky Horror Show?
Years ago I saw it in theatre. People would dress up, throw rice, shine flashlights, sing and dance. It was a trip.
Wife and I first saw it when it was still just a movie, no audience participation, but we enjoyed it enough that we back a half dozen times, or more, over the years and watched as the spectacle grew.
Never participated at the theater, (no costume wearing, toast throwing or water gun squirting ... etc), but once, in the 80's, while I was still using a wheelchair after back surgery, wife and I went to a Halloween party dressed as Dr. Scott being wheeled around by Magenta. ( smile )
Love it. This makes me like you even more. Haha
Don't Dream It Be It....
That sort of audience participation was quite a "thing"-- but it was long ago. I had thought that it had died out completely.
But here's a strange coincidence-- just as Meatloaf is suddenly back in the news, it looks like that type of audience participation in a cult show might be back once again (although this time its not the same film):
Cats Could Be the Next Rocky Horror Picture Show
Cats might have been a hit on Broadway in the 1980s and '90s, but the new film adaptation has been, by almost all standards, a catastrophic failure. Its $6.5 million domestic opening weekend wasn't even half of studio projections, disastrous for a major release with a production budget estimated at $100 million.
Cats is proving just as big a failure with the critics as it is at the box office, with an 18 percent score on Rotten Tomatoes, and some of the harshest review of any movie this year.
Although it's far too early for Cats to have developed the formal audience-participation traditions that define showings of Rocky Horror or The Room, screenings of Cats are becoming interesting experiences for the few who attend.
That is awesome.
When I was a teenager I went to the movie probably 30-40 times mostly dressed as Brad, and yes I brought rice or a flashlight or a squirt gun. It was fun.
Cats Could Be The Next Rocky Horror Picture Show
Looks like those of us who attended in the past will have another opportunity for that sort of fun!
(Interesting story, so I decided to seed it HERE)
Oh, I've been lots of times. I never dressed up, but I'd bring toilet paper, hot dogs, a squirt bottle, newspaper, rice, the whole nine yards. It was a BITCH getting that rice out of the car.
Oh look, ANOTHER Hockey Stick graph! Wonder who cooked the data this time???
That's not a hockey stick, trust me I'm Canadian and I know hockey sticks:)
I just have to ask, what is it about old white dudes and going after teenage autistic girls? Is she autistic? I can't really remember, I am really not sure because I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to her. In fact the only reason I know who she is is because I have seen several headlines about old ass white American politicians and "celebrities" going after a handicapped teenager.
For real, what the fuck?
What makes you think that's a thing?
Because a lot of you all just can't let her go, which tells me that she isn't the only one.
You all? Not me. I couldn't care less about her.
It does, eh? A sample size of 1? What's the logic in that? And anyway, you said yourself that you don't even know if she is autistic. So even by that crappy standard, you have no reason to think that old white dudes have some thing about autistic girls.
More fundamentalist left wing misandry. Well not just that i suppose. Its racist as hell as well as old age ageist.
Nice job! You got a three-fer of generalized hatred there in one quick post.
Meatloaf is now deceased so his comments don't really matter. Just curious about why bring up a two year old article?
Just curious about why bring up a two year old article?
I wondered the same thing. I did enjoy seeing the names and comments from the regulars here and how consistent they are.
It's called a mistake. I guess we all make them.
Greta Thunberg should go yell "How Dare you" at Putin because he is causing more climate change along with all the other damage
If Greta did that, she would probably wind up in a Russian gulag!