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Trump Bravely Affirms Framers, Religion, and Life

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  donald-j-trump-fan-1  •  4 years ago  •  115 comments

By:   Stephen B Presser

Trump Bravely Affirms Framers, Religion, and Life
The progressives now dominating one of our political parties, the Democrats, see the abortion question as an assertion of a woman’s control over the functions of her own body, but many Americans, and perhaps, at this point in our history, the majority of Republicans, believe that to terminate a pregnancy is to take an innocent human life, something that no one has a right to do. The two views are obviously incompatible.

Trump is right. Human life, the pre born infant is a mighty creation in the image of almighty God.  Trumps reliance on and comments regarding our founding and the founders ideals is right on.  


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In the midst of the most unfair and unjustified impeachment ever brought against a president, Donald Trump gave perhaps the strongest and bravest speech of his political career.

Even as Mr. Trump became the first president ever to be impeached in the complete absence of any crimes being charged against him — which flies in the face of the Constitution’s requirement that impeachable offenses consist of "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" — he nonetheless, on Jan. 24, became the first U.S. president ever to attend and speak at the annual  March for Life .  

The March for Life is a gathering of many thousands in the nation’s capital on the anniversary of the notorious Supreme Court decision in  Roe v. Wade , 410 U.S. 113 (1973).

That decision, the most arbitrary act of judicial legislation in our nation’s history, essentially declared that somewhere in the "penumbras and emanations" of constitutional provisions could be found a purported right to terminate incipient human life in the womb, a right that many progressives think ought to be extended to any time before the actual birth of an infant.

The progressives now dominating one of our political parties, the Democrats, see the abortion question as an assertion of a woman’s control over the functions of her own body, but many Americans, and perhaps, at this point in our history, the majority of Republicans, believe that to terminate a pregnancy is to take an innocent human life, something that no one has a right to do.

The two views are obviously incompatible.

In our republic, the way such intractable matters have been solved has been through the legislative, not the judicial process. This is why the Constitution actually leaves such matters to the state legislatures, and this is why the late Antonin Scalia, dissenting in the 1992  Planned Parenthood v. Casey , 505 U.S. 833 (1992) decision (affirming Roe v. Wade),  stated  to his fellow justices that, "We should get out of this area, where we have no right to be, and where we do neither ourselves nor the country any good by remaining."

The annual March for Life is best understood as an expression by Americans who share Scalia’s view, and who, moreover, seek to persuade their fellow Americans that the Court made a dangerous and unconscionable error in that 1973 decision.

This is certainly the most divisive issue in American culture, politics, and law, and the president made it clear where he stood. "We are here," he  said , "for a very simple reason: to defend the right of every child, born and unborn, to fulfill their God-given potential."

There are those who believe sincerely that it is wrong for any public official, much less any president, to take a stand on a public policy based on religion, because they maintain that there ought to be a clear separation of church and state.

It's true that the  First Amendment  to the Constitution does provide that Congress is prohibited from dictating an "establishment of religion," but what the Framers’ meant by that was simply that there would be no creation of a national church, as had been true in England.

This was not supposed to be an atheistic nation, and, indeed, John Adams, our second President  stated  in 1798 that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Similarly, Samuel Chase, an early Supreme Court justice — one who, like Trump, was himself later to be the subject of an unfair impeachment —  told  a grand jury in 1802 that there could be "no political happiness without liberty, that there can be no liberty without morality, and that there can be no morality without religion."

President Trump firmly placed himself in the camp of Adams and Chase. "When we see the image of a baby in the womb," he said, "we glimpse the majesty of God's creation."

The president acknowledged, however, that not all Americans shared his views or those of the marchers, "Sadly, the far left is working to erase our God-given rights, shut down faith-based charities, ban religious leaders from the public square, and silence Americans who believe in the sanctity of life."

As he closed his speech the President made clear where he stood, "And above all, we know that every human soul is divine and every human life, born and unborn, is made in the holy image of Almighty God."

With those words Mr. Trump underscored what is at stake with his trial for impeachment and the upcoming election this November, This country is in the midst of an historic choice — whether to reaffirm the belief of the Framers that providence still guides this nation, or whether to cede power to those who spurn that view and the president who supports it.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

There are those who believe sincerely that it is wrong for any public official, much less any president, to take a stand on a public policy based on religion, because they maintain that there ought to be a clear separation of church and state.

It's true that the  First Amendment  to the Constitution does provide that Congress is prohibited from dictating an "establishment of religion," but what the Framers’ meant by that was simply that there would be no creation of a national church, as had been true in England.

This was not supposed to be an atheistic nation, and, indeed, John Adams, our second President  stated  in 1798 that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Similarly, Samuel Chase, an early Supreme Court justice — one who, like Trump, was himself later to be the subject of an unfair impeachment — told  a grand jury in 1802 that there could be "no political happiness without liberty, that there can be no liberty without morality, and that there can be no morality without religion."

President Trump firmly placed himself in the camp of Adams and Chase. "When we see the image of a baby in the womb," he said, "we glimpse the majesty of God's creation."

The president acknowledged, however, that not all Americans shared his views or those of the marchers, "Sadly, the far left is working to erase our God-given rights, shut down faith-based charities, ban religious leaders from the public square, and silence Americans who believe in the sanctity of life."

As he closed his speech the President made clear where he stood, "And above all, we know that every human soul is divine and every human life, born and unborn, is made in the holy image of Almighty God."

With those words Mr. Trump underscored what is at stake with his trial for impeachment and the upcoming election this November     

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

Your understanding of the separation of church and state is quite limited. Yes, the government cannot establish a church or religion. But it also means it cannot favor any religion over another or over non-religion, and vice versa. Neither can religion be used to establish law or public policy. In effect, the government must remain religiously neutral.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @1.1    4 years ago

Which means that it can’t use its power to keep religious people from speaking their minds anywhere.  Nor can it prevent the free exercise there of of a persons religious beliefs.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago
'Which means that it can’t use its power to keep religious people from speaking their minds anywhere.  Nor can it prevent the free exercise there of of a persons religious beliefs.'

Who is stopping so called religious people from speaking their minds anywhere?  Who is preventing the free exercise thereof of a persons so-called 'religious beliefs'?

Such poor, poor, persecuted so called 'religious' 'christian' folk.  

 
 
 
Jordan G
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1.1.3  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago
Which means that it can’t use its power to keep religious people from speaking their minds anywhere.  Nor can it prevent the free exercise there of of a persons religious beliefs.

It also means Religion can not be the basis for government actions or policies. You have "Freedom of religion" What you don't have is the freedom to exercise your religion over the lives of others.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Jordan G @1.1.3    4 years ago

Us folks who do not have a 'religious' belief are supposed to be free of the freaky fanatics and fundamentals forcing their views upon us as well.  Like they're trying to force us taxpayers to pay for religious schools through the courts.      

 
 
 
Jordan G
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1.1.5  Jordan G  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    4 years ago

I'm all for freedom of religion but some folks take it way too far.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago

I didn't say it did. Of course, there are limits to religious exercise. But the government itself is not and should not be a platform for religious promotion or belief.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.7  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago

Doesn't mean that Joe Citizen can't mock you for your fanatical fascism.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

"moral and religious People"

No such thing exists.  If you rely on a collection of novellas to tell you what's moral, you arent moral.  Coule that with the fact that collection of novellas condones such acts as incest and murder.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2  The Magic 8 Ball    4 years ago
ban religious leaders from the public square, 

Do not let anyone claim tribute of American patriotism if they even attempt to remove religion from politics. ~George Washington

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    4 years ago

there could be "no political happiness without liberty, that there can be no liberty without morality, and that there can be no morality without religion."   

 
 
 
Jordan G
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2.1.1  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    4 years ago
there could be "no political happiness without liberty, that there can be no liberty without morality, and that there can be no morality without religion."

I get that many religious people believe that their deity and hence their religion is the sole arbiter of morality, but to imply that If you don't believe in deities then you must not believe in morality either is simply a non sequitur.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.1    4 years ago

Religion based on belief in the one true God is the sole source of true and real morality. 

 
 
 
Jordan G
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2.1.3  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago

Opinion noted.

 
 
 
Jordan G
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2.1.4  Jordan G  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.3    4 years ago

I'm of the opinion that everyone is born an atheist. It's religious influence that clouds perception of the world with unverifiable dogma. Morality predicates religion. We can have universal morals that allow everyone to live autonomously without imposing their will or personally held beliefs on others.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.4    4 years ago

There are no morals in the universe without an all powerful omniscient deity to inform us as to what they are.  God is the source of all that we call moral values and standards 

 
 
 
katrix
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2.1.6  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago
Religion based on belief in the one true God is the sole source of true and real morality. 

Bullshit. I'm far more moral than you are, and I'm an atheist.

 
 
 
katrix
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2.1.7  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.5    4 years ago
God is the source of all that we call moral values and standards 

Ah yes, your god who commands its followers to rape, murder, and enslave people.

Thank goodness we've moved away from your idea of morality, because there's nothing moral about it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.4    4 years ago

The Golden Rule

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.5    4 years ago
God is the source of all that we call moral values and standards 

So please tell me DJTf1, which man is more moral?

1: The man who leads a moral and just life not doing any wrong and helping others, because he is threatened with eternal pain and torture if he doesn't do so.

Or...

2: The man who leads a moral and just life not doing any wrong and helping others, because he feels, for himself, that it is the proper way to live one's life.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago

If that's true, then slavery should be morally ok, right? Especially since god never prohibited slavery in the 1st place.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.11  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.5    4 years ago

That's nice. Prove it!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.4    4 years ago

That would be accurate 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.1    4 years ago

I've been told I'm immoral by default because I don't believe in a god. It's sad when one thinks they need a god to be moral.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @2.1.1    4 years ago

Opinion noted

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.15  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    4 years ago

This atheist lives a moral life without feeling the need to worship mythology and superstition. 

I'll stick with believing in the scientific method.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @2.1.15    4 years ago

All morals ever promoted are originally from theistic sources without exception 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.17  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @2.1.15    4 years ago

God is the author of all science.  

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.1.18  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.17    4 years ago

Wrong once again.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.19  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.16    4 years ago

All morals ever promoted are originally from theistic sources without exception

You continue to make claims with nothing to back them up. 

Pretty sure that when apes evolved into humans and evolved even more  complex societies there wasn't a bible among them (not even 6000 years ago).

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.20  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.16    4 years ago

Demonstrably false. Morality is not unique or exclusive to religion.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.21  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.17    4 years ago

That's nice. Prove it!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.22  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.16    4 years ago

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    4 years ago
'Do not let anyone claim tribute of American patriotism if they even attempt to remove religion from politics. ~George Washington'

You're paraphrasing.  Washington did not say that.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    4 years ago

Interesting though.  Everyone attributes it to him even though it's one of his least religious utterances.

Supposedly in his farewell address, but not the written versions.  Other search engines point to the 1789 Thanksgiving Day Prayer, which certainly is a prayer but does not contain those words.

Everyone agrees it is well within Washingto's character to have said something like that.

Even a bible website which praises Washington as a great Christion warrior, admits there is no confirmed source.

"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove religion from politics." George Washington
( The source for this quote has yet to be found, but as you will see, it is perfectly consistent with the one below. Editor )

I found it on the internet so it must be true jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dig
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2.3  Dig  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    4 years ago
Do not let anyone claim tribute of American patriotism if they even attempt to remove religion from politics. ~George Washington

FYI - That's a fake quote. You won't find it in any of his writings.

Google it and you will find this, though (from 2006) - No appropriate quote? Just make one up!

Now, with the speed of transferring false information across the web, new quotes are being fabricated by unknown liars and making their way across the web in emails and message board postings. The most recent example of a widespread bogus quotation being accepted is the following:

"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove religion from politics."
-- falsely attributed to George Washington

This quote, unlike the quotes above, was not apparently fabricated by Barton (although the actual liar who made this one up is unknown at this time) and has only appeared on the web. There is no citation for this quote and it appears nowhere in any of Washington's writings or speeches, yet it is now being cited in message board postings, emails, and is even showing up on bumper stickers.

IT IS A LIE AS WASHINGTON NEVER EVER SAID IT OR WROTE IT!

This sort of fallacious crap being passed off as truth is yet another example of a lying religious right. They cannot support their position with the truth, so they resort to lying.

That article was from 14 years ago. Apparently, fake crap on the internet has a long shelf life.

I do want to thank you, though. It made me go on a quote hunt and I ended up re-reading George Washington's Farewell Address, which contains an eerily accurate warning pertaining to our present situation - the stuff on factions, of which here's a quick sample (boldface mine, last two paragraphs):

[...] This Government, the offspring of our own choice, uninfluenced and unawed, adopted upon full investigation and mature deliberation, completely free in its principles, in the distribution of its powers, uniting security with energy, and containing within itself a provision for its own amendment, has a just claim to your confidence and your support. Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at any time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.

All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction; to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community, and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to snake the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans, digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things to become potent engines by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

Hmm..."with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities"; subversion by a "cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled" man. Stooge by stooge, institution by institution.

It's as if Washington had a crystal ball.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.3.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dig @2.3    4 years ago
FYI - That's a fake quote. You won't find it in any of his writings.

I am guessing it was paraphrased from his farewell address.

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism,

have a great day :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3.1    4 years ago

Then you should not have presented it as a quote.

It's really that simple.

Cheers jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.3.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.2    4 years ago
Then you should not have presented it as a quote

there is a lot of things I should do to make liberals happy...

guess what?  not interested.   if the left was a smart as they think they are they would have known it was paraphrased on their own without me telling them and realized the sentiment expressed stands no matter how it is said.

remove religion from politics = not a patriot

end of discussion.

cheers :)

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3.3    4 years ago

We have no reason whatsoever to do or say anything to make progressives happy.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
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3  bbl-1    4 years ago

Wow!  Trump affirms.  Nothing left to say, he's made the call.  His hand is shown.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @3    4 years ago

that’s right.  Trump stood with God against secular humanist atheism.  A stand for life and moral values against the baseless situational ethics and moral relativism of secular progressives 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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3.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

Like I said.  Trump has shown his hand.  Question remains, do you believe him?

 
 
 
katrix
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3.1.2  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

Most Trump supporters aren't dumb enough to actually believe that Trump is anti abortion; but some of his idolaters are clearly fools.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

If there was a god, tRump would have been struck by lightning long before now.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    4 years ago
If there was a god, tRump would have been struck by lightning long before now.  

This, is Trump's god.

99E7CB7F67467CF4F96FA72A0CA79B8ABE5924BB

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.1.5  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.4    4 years ago

I guess Bloomberg is out

:)

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @3.1.2    4 years ago

and many of his opponents are clearly suffering from TDS. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.4    4 years ago
'This, is Trump's god.'

Indeed.  I think the dumb turd also sees himself as god.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.6    4 years ago

There is indeed tRump Denial Syndrome amongst his supporters.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @3.1.1    4 years ago

I do and proudly stand with him

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.9    4 years ago
I do and proudly stand with him

Why?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.10    4 years ago

Because he’s done a great job and kept his promises. He’s given us more than we could have hoped for the night he pulled off his glorious upset win.  I’d be a fool to vote against him and I’m not about to be like his opposition 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.1.12  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.11    4 years ago

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Thrawn 31
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3.1.13  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

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Thrawn 31
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3.1.14  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.11    4 years ago
He’s given us more than we could have hoped for

Shit man, you have low expectations.

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Texan1211
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3.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.13    4 years ago

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Ozzwald
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3.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.11    4 years ago
Because he’s done a great job and kept his promises.

List the promises he's kept.

He’s given us more than we could have hoped for the night he pulled off his glorious upset win.

Again a generic nonsensical statement.  What, specifically, has he given you?

 I’d be a fool to vote against him and I’m not about to be like his opposition 

Like these guys?

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XXJefferson51
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3.1.17  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.15    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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3.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.13    4 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.1.19  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.16    4 years ago
List the promises he's kept

  just off the top of my head = not in any special order.

  • tpp = dead
  • paris agreement = dead
  • icc = dead
  • wto = dead
  • illegals catch and release program = dead
  • obamacare mandate = dead 
  • prison reform = enacted
  • wages = up
  • minority jobless rates = at record lows
  • overall unemployment = at record lows
  • conservative supreme court justices = 2
  • conservative circuit court judges =  seated by the truck loads
  • u.s. embassy in israel = moved to jerusalem 
  • right to try act = enacted
  • coal exports = up about 60%
  • space force = created
  • median household income = highest ever recorded
  • liberal progressives pissed off about everything listed above = priceless

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.1.20  igknorantzrulz  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.1.19    4 years ago

You left off Brain Dead, as it is Trumpp's greatest and most significant accomplishment, as he continues to over achieve in this area.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.1.21  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1.20    4 years ago
you left off
  • the lefts anger and attacks = music to my ears.

thanks :)

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.1.22  igknorantzrulz  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.1.21    4 years ago

listen to my violin, cause i lost my Flute,'

at Band camp where i'm banned.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.1.23  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1.22    4 years ago
listen to my violin, cause i lost my Flute,'

play me that old familiar tune  "russia, russia, russia."

please? for old times sake?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.24  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.1.19    4 years ago

Great reply.  Trump has indeed kept so many promises.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.25  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.1.21    4 years ago

Indeed.  That’s the political left projecting themselves upon our great President. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.26  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @3.1.23    4 years ago

But Russia....

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.1.27  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.26    4 years ago

the people who fabricated that russia bs?

I hear, "about half" are going to jail.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

Yet Trump has that witch Paula roaming the halls of the WH spouting about God terminating "satanic" pregnancies.  As far as him attending the march, it is election time and these events are how candidates stump for votes.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4.1  bbl-1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4    4 years ago

Paula White walks in The Shadow of The Deceiver.

 
 
 
katrix
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4.2  katrix  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4    4 years ago

Marla Maples must be shaking her head.

How are these religious people gullible enough to fall for this? Most of the religious people I know aren't actually that stupid, but clearly many people are.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  katrix @4.2    4 years ago

It is a cult based on fear, want and avarice.

 
 
 
katrix
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4.2.2  katrix  replied to  bbl-1 @4.2.1    4 years ago
It is a cult based on fear, want and avarice.

That is so true.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.3  Gordy327  replied to  bbl-1 @4.2.1    4 years ago

Don't forget ignorance. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.2.3    4 years ago

You all describe TDS very well. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.2.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Gordy327 @4.2.3    4 years ago

Don't forget ignorance. 

Yea, what You said.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.2.5    4 years ago

That would be the Never Trump Lincoln project and it’s followers

 
 
 
katrix
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5  katrix    4 years ago

Bravely? What's so brave about lying to the American people? Immoral Trump idolaters love lies, so it doesn't take any bravery to lie to them.

Was it brave when he wanted Marla Maples to get an abortion? Was it brave when he brought his mistress and wife to the same ski resort at the same time?

I'm so glad I'm not as immoral as some of these religious people. I almost wish there were a heaven, so I could see the look on their faces when they're turned away. After all, Jesus clearly warned them that he wouldn't know them.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @5    4 years ago

you mean Jesus exists and that you agree with something He said?  

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    4 years ago
After all, Jesus clearly warned them that he wouldn't know them.

too bad, so sad for fringe evangelical extremists.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.1    4 years ago

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.3  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago

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lady in black
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5.1.4  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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5.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.1    4 years ago

So then secular progressives won’t be disappointed at all with the final judgement? 

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.6  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.5    4 years ago
So then secular progressives won’t be disappointed at all with the final judgement?

not me, I've wanted the self righteous to go away for decades. I guess it all depends upon ones perspective, but a bunch of religious fanatics no longer hanging around sure sounds like heaven to me. I hope even the lowest of evangelical based extremists make the cut.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.6    4 years ago

The righteous inherit the earth. The rest not so much. 

 
 
 
katrix
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5.1.8  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.7    4 years ago
The righteous inherit the earth. The rest not so much. 

What will the righteous do when the earth dies when our sun turns into a red dwarf? Ignorance of geology makes people say the stupidest things.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.9  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.7    4 years ago
The righteous inherit the earth.

sorry, but somebody may be misquoting their savior. the meek shall inherit the earth is the correct quote. the self righteous inherit nothing. strike 2 for radical xtian extremists on making it to the land of milk and honey. jesus doesn't easily forgive hypocrisy. lotsa luck!

 
 
 
katrix
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5.1.10  katrix  replied to  devangelical @5.1.9    4 years ago
jesus doesn't easily forgive hypocrisy

And he hated false prophets - of which we have a few on this site.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @5.1.9    4 years ago

one must be meek among  other things to be righteous 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @5.1.10    4 years ago

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Gordy327
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5.1.13  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.12    4 years ago

You must be projecting

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.13    4 years ago

Nope just getting vacuumed up by the secular left...

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.15  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.14    4 years ago

That sounds more paranoid than anything.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.15    4 years ago

Nope, just the facts of life for conservatives attempting to speak our minds.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Expert
5.1.17  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.16    4 years ago

No one is stopping you from speaking your mind.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

Trump affirmed life, freedom, American values, capitalism.  Democrats affirm????

 
 
 
Jordan G
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6.1  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6    4 years ago

Trump "affirmed" nothing, except that all politicians pander. Trump is no different.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @6.1    4 years ago

So people who affirm values, beliefs, ideas that you hate, pander?  

 
 
 
Jordan G
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6.1.2  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.1    4 years ago

Hate is a very strong word. And that's your word. But nice try.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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6.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  Jordan G @6.1    4 years ago
Trump "affirmed" nothing, except that all politicians pander. Trump is no different.

I'd say pandering is a universal trait of all politicians and the general public seems to simply love being pandered above anything else.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @6.1.2    4 years ago

I noticed you said nothing about what secular progressives affirm.  All you have is trying to deny what I said Trump is affirming.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7  Thrawn 31    4 years ago
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Thrawn 31
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7.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7    4 years ago

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Thrawn 31
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7.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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8  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

we love you Rush!  Congrats on the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8    4 years ago

What a disgrace. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    4 years ago

It’s not a disgrace to give to a seriously ill American who has contributed so much to charity and to our America such bitter hate.  Rush Limbaugh is a great American 

 
 
 
Jordan G
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8.2  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8    4 years ago

Another aspect of the Presidency Trump has degraded .

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @8.2    4 years ago

Let’s not bitterly cling to feelings of hate for a great American.  

 
 
 
Jordan G
Freshman Silent
8.2.3  Jordan G  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.2.1    4 years ago
Let’s not bitterly cling to feelings of hate for a great American.

I have no "feelings of hate", those are your words. I merely strongly disagree

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jordan G @8.2.3    4 years ago

Well I strongly agree with most of what our great President has done and think that his SOTU address was one of the best ever.  The tribute to Rush in Nancy’s house was perfect.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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