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How can you follow Jesus and support Donald Trump?

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  donald-j-trump-fan-1  •  6 years ago  •  115 comments

By:   Shane Idleman

How can you follow Jesus and support Donald Trump?
The majority of news outlets spin everything (yes, everything) to put President Trump in a bad light. Their hatred for him trumps the truth. Their agenda is simple and clear: remove him from office at any cost! And I hope you realize this: they are really coming after you, me, and our Christian values.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



God doesn't judge a nation based on the character of one man; He judges it based on the spiritual health of her people. Never forget that.


Like many, I'm perplexed by the divide in the Christian community over President Trump – but I'm not surprised. The media is fueling lies, and the world is listening. This was demonstrated in a worship song by Daniel Deitrich (talk about the wrong place to express political views). Deitrich's song was written in response to the  81% of white evangelical Protestant voters  who supported Donald Trump in 2016. Here are the lyrics: They started putting kids in cages. Ripping mothers from their babies. And I looked to you to speak on their behalf.










In November, which religious groups will support Trump in larger numbers than in 2016? (Select all that apply)










This, of course, is in response to what is "perceived" as happening at the border. I assume that Mr. Deitrich is sincere and his heart truly wants to help people, but we must get our facts from reputable sources or first-hand experience. God willing, I'm touring the border with other California pastors very soon and hope to gain that perspective personally (look for that op-ed in mid-February).

Some say, "How can you follow Jesus and Donald Trump?" We are not following a man, we are shaping a movement. A better question to be asking, though, is  What direction is the country heading?

  • If a leader lacks Christian character but is pointing the nation back to God, is that a bad thing?
  • If they are minimizing murdering babies and maximizing godly values, is that a bad thing?
  • If they are being a terror to terrorists and making America secure, is that a bad thing?
  • If they are honoring hard work and minimizing free handouts, is that a bad thing?

God doesn't judge a nation based on the character of one man; He judges it based on the spiritual health of her people. Never forget that.

I regularly say that we Christians love refugees and immigrants and are eager to help with food, lodging, and jobs. But at the national level, the president is to put the safety and provision of the American people first. When an airplane loses cabin pressure, parents put on their oxygen masks first to better assist their child. This isn't selfishness; it's wisdom. Opening the borders parallels cabin pressure falling and a limited supply of masks. Our law enforcement officers could not sustain the load, nor could our nation. Let's streamline the process and welcome God-fearing immigrants and have them contribute to society so everyone benefits. The truth is, kids are not being put in cages and ripped from their mothers, as the song accuses.

The majority of news outlets spin everything (yes, everything) to put President Trump in a bad light. Their hatred for him trumps the truth. Their agenda is simple and clear: remove him from office at any cost! And I hope you realize this: they are really coming after you, me, and our Christian values.

The push toward open borders is more about votes than truly helping people. Open borders would be like me telling my kids to leave their windows open in case a stranger needs a warm night's sleep. That would be severe parental neglect because many harmful things could also enter through those open windows. Open borders would parallel that type of irresponsibility. Additionally, our financial system cannot support people flooding in who need assistance. How is that using wisdom? It's not a matter of if this type of financial irresponsibility causes damage but when and how much. Our California representatives in Sacramento need to wake up to this fact – and wake up quickly. There is a better way, but our leaders must repent and seek God for wisdom.

Most critics don't care what the facts are. Their hatred for the president overshadows their desperate need for humility. Let this sink in: innocent children are being protected, godly counsel is surrounding President Trump, terror is being restrained, good judges are being selected, socialism is being resisted, families are being encouraged via employment (black employment is at an all-time high), prayer is being brought back in schools, God's wisdom is being sought, and on and on it goes. So again, we are not following a man, we are revitalizing a movement – a movement back to God. I'm more concerned with our nation's national character than I am with the president's personal character.

An analogy that I often use will bring this point home. The head of a neighborhood watch program, who took the late-night watches, had previously had an affair. He was occasionally gruff and impulsive, and sometimes his words were crass and offensive, but he watched over the neighborhood diligently each night. Each week he invited church leaders into his home to pray for him and his family and to seek their advice. He often stood against others on the committee who wanted to enact policies harmful to the neighborhood and to the children, such as advocating an open-door policy where residents were required to allow anyone into their homes at all hours of the day for handouts.

Is this not the kind of person you would want leading your neighborhood watch? Does his past or his demeanor matter more than the results he is accomplishing? If you are intellectually honest, the answer is not difficult. In the same way, the answer is simple for America. Again, we are not voting for people based on how godly they are; we are voting for the future direction of America: the right to life, the elevation of God's Word back to its proper place, the appointment of conservative judges, securing America and her borders, creating jobs, and improving the quality of life for all Americans.

As a personal observation, I have noticed that those who oppose  P resident Trump typically embrace liberal theology. It makes one wonder what is truly leading them: worldly mandates or biblical principles.

I will close with what I stated in a brief  op-ed : we can't have our cake and eat it too – there is no middle ground for Christians today. You can choose a president who will wear a  Planned Parenthood scarf  at her inauguration or one of the countless others who would seek to destroy the America we know and lead us down the primrose path of socialism – or worse. Or you can choose to back President Trump. There is no Plan B.


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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    6 years ago
It is the opposition to Trump and their policies who will have explaining to do at the judgement.

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devangelical
Professor Principal
3  devangelical    6 years ago

conservative xtians couldn't find a better representation of their collective values, in word and deed, than trump

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
4  lady in black    6 years ago

Nazis also followed jesus and they followed hitler.  

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
5  lady in black    6 years ago

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Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
5.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  lady in black @5    6 years ago

Not interesting at all, all it is is pure jealousy. Nothing more. Some men and women are jealous that a 45 and 50 year old make them look 150, have more talent than they could ever hope, and are WAY out of their league. That is all this is. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
5.3  Raven Wing   replied to  lady in black @5    6 years ago

If Melania wasn't Trumps wife, or wasn't a Republican, the Repubs would curse her as being a harlot.

But, seeing as that is not the case, and she is Trumps wife and a Republican, they praise her as being next to the Virgin Mary.

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
5.3.1  lady in black  replied to  Raven Wing @5.3    6 years ago

They are hypocrites.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6  MrFrost    6 years ago
The majority of news outlets spin everything (yes, everything) to put President Trump in a bad light.

Trump puts himself in a bad light, not the media's fault for reporting it....it's kinda their job. I think at this point, blaming the media for trump being a jackass, is over. 

From a political standpoint, the bible beaters like trump because they want more activist judges and they think Roe V. Wade will be overturned, (which is very unlikely). 

Personally, if these people are willing to sacrifice their religious morals to follow a dipshit like trump, I would say they have a pretty weak belief system in the first place and use religion as a crutch. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
7  pat wilson    6 years ago

Trump Administration Violated Religious Liberty Of Border Volunteers, Judge Finds

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
Professor Quiet
8  Larry Hampton    6 years ago

For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones.

MATTHEW 24:24

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
8.1  pat wilson  replied to  Larry Hampton @8    6 years ago

You can fool all the people some of the time.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
8.1.1  pat wilson  replied to  pat wilson @8.1    6 years ago

On second thought that's wrong. I don't think you can fool all of the people, ever.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
Professor Quiet
8.1.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  pat wilson @8.1.1    6 years ago

Pat you are correct. Not everyone. 

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
9  PJ    6 years ago

The right are confused between religion and cultism.  They are weak minded and needy people who are more concerned about being a part of group that they've lost their individuality and souls a long time ago.  

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
10  zuksam    6 years ago

Voting for Trump doesn't mean you approve of everything he does or even that you like him at all. Unfortunately because of the two party system in America choosing who to vote for is like picking a cable TV package, you will never get everything you want because it's unavailable so you pick the package that has the things that are most important to you but you still end up with a lot of stuff you don't want. This is the way most Americans vote and for many their beliefs or concerns (what's important to them) makes them vote consistently for one party over the other despite the fact that they agree with the other party on some issues. There are very few people who agree with every stance their party takes on the issues although you wouldn't know it reading the posts on this site. There are even voters who vote to divide power meaning if one party has the house they'll vote for the other party as president just to check either parties power. Many people aren't going to vote for Trump they are going to vote against the Democratic Agenda just like many will vote against Trump no matter who the Democratic Nominee is. So the question was "How can you follow Jesus and support Donald Trump?" and there are many answers to that question but I'll ask a question of my own "How can you follow Jesus and support a Pro Choice Democrat ?"

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1  lib50  replied to  zuksam @10    6 years ago

Because it isn't what you think it is. Everybody has to realize there are MANY different spiritual beliefs and yours are not the final say.  We all have our own.  Most egg fertilizations do not lead to a baby.  Pregnancies end for a myriad of reasons, and choice is only one.  And its NOT YOURS.  Soul not in fetus at conception and its between the woman and her partner (or not) and doctor.  A group of people who follow a pussygrabbing greedy narcissistic racist liar are trying to force their beliefs on everybody,  but its not their place.  Not their body, not their values. Pretty easy choice politically.  Because if your beliefs are that high and righteous, live them and others will follow.  Otherwise, butt out.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
10.1.1  zuksam  replied to  lib50 @10.1    6 years ago
A group of people who follow a pussygrabbing greedy narcissistic racist liar are trying to force their beliefs on everybody

Those are horrible things to say about Jesus !

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
Professor Quiet
10.1.3  Larry Hampton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @10.1.2    6 years ago

What stupid things to say. You know that’s not who they are talking about. Start being honest in your debate. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1.4  lib50  replied to  Larry Hampton @10.1.3    6 years ago

Not the first time they feign being obtuse.  This from the cultists who slurp up every Trump lie and regurgitate it every day.  I suppose its possible they don't know the difference between  Trump and Jesus though. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.2  JohnRussell  replied to  zuksam @10    6 years ago

Donald Trump supporters are, without question, the biggest problem facing America today.  We have to stop being in denial about this. 

Without his cult like supporters Trump would be isolated and defeated. His supporters embolden him and protect him. And it is wrong. 

It is the most wrong thing that has happened in politics in our lifetimes. 

Too many people sit back and don't speak up. 

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
10.2.1  zuksam  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    6 years ago

It is you who are wrong ! The primaries may be a popularity contest but People vote on issues in the election. You are wrong to expect people to vote against their core beliefs and political values, conservative voters are not going to vote for a progressive liberal no matter how big of a jackass Donald Trump is. [deleted]

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.2.2  lib50  replied to  zuksam @10.2.1    6 years ago

Luckily Trump's base shrinks, it doesn't grow.  And Bloomberg ads are very effective for all democrats in that they focus on Trump and his assholiness. And bots and trolls can't vote (yet).

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
11  It Is ME    6 years ago

"How can you follow Jesus and support Donald Trump?"

I can "Follow" and "Support " BOTH at the same time !!!!!!

We're talking about " Politics " here. jrSmiley_32_smiley_image.gif

Matthew 21:12-16

Jesus at the Temple:
"Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there . He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.”

Sounds like "Members of Congress …. doesn't it ? jrSmiley_85_smiley_image.gif

They come in to congress as "Paupers" and Leave "Millionaires", and Trump is showing us "The PATH  Congress ALWAYS takes"  ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

TRUMP is "For"....the "Buyers" (Americans). jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 

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