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Benjamin Watson to ‘unveil the truth about abortion’ in documentary featuring Dr. Ben Carson, Alveda King

  

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Via:  donald-j-trump-fan-1  •  4 years ago  •  80 comments

By:   Leonardo Blair

Benjamin Watson to ‘unveil the truth about abortion’ in documentary featuring Dr. Ben Carson, Alveda King
“My goal is to unveil the truth about abortion, the laws, the history and where our country is headed. I believe in the sanctity of life, be it in the womb or on your deathbed. That’s my conviction. But with the film, I’ll engage those who disagree and hear their reasoning. The No. 1 thing I’m looking for is empathy on both sides,” Watson told the publication about the project that has a budget of less than $1 million.

This is great news. Thanks to the Christian Post news reporter for this report.  Ben Carson and Alveda King are great Americans.  Fatherhood and motherhood begin at conception.  The growing strength and numbers of u in he pro science pro life movement has. Caused the pro abortion groups to become ever more rabid and extreme in their comments and public demonstrations.  


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In an upcoming documentary featuring interviews with people like Housing and Urban Development Secretary Dr. Ben Carson and niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Alveda King, pro-life New England Patriots tight end Benjamin Watson says he will “unveil the truth about abortion.”

Watson, who is an outspoken Christian and pro-life activist,  told The Hollywood Reporter  he is executive producing and partially financing a documentary called Divided Hearts of America which started filming last May and is now in the postproduction stage.

“My goal is to unveil the truth about abortion, the laws, the history and where our country is headed. I believe in the sanctity of life, be it in the womb or on your deathbed. That’s my conviction. But with the film, I’ll engage those who disagree and hear their reasoning. The No. 1 thing I’m looking for is empathy on both sides,” Watson told the publication about the project that has a budget of less than $1 million.

Watson is featured in the documentary with some 30 pro-life and pro-choice Americans, including Carson and King who discuss the issue of abortion.

“I never thought I’d be involved in a movie, but so many different laws have passed in New York, Alabama, Georgia, it seems this issue — which has always been a part of our national consciousness — has ramped up recently,” he said. “Things are at a fever pitch.”

Last May, around the time he began filming his new documentary, Watson raised the issue of the role men play in battling abortion at a major  pro-life rally in New York’s Times Square , saying that “fatherhood begins in the womb.”

The rally, organized by Focus on the Family, came in the wake of the passage of New York’s Reproductive Health Act that  codified  federal abortion rights guaranteed under the 1973  Roe v. Wade  Supreme Court decision and removed abortion from the state's criminal code.

“As families across our country are being destroyed and as lives are being extinguished, we must expose the lies that are being told. We must peel back those layers of deceit,” Watson urged men at the rally.

“We have to be men who are willing to step into that boldly and with confidence because we were made to be protectors and providers. You have what it takes to be the man God designed you to be,” said Watson, who is a father of seven.

The voice of pro-life men is “greatly needed” in the “public sphere,” he added, insisting that “fatherhood begins in the womb.”

“That’s where it starts,” Watson noted. “It doesn’t start when the baby is out. The relationship you have with the mother, the relationship you have talking to that child en utero. Fatherhood begins in the womb.”

In a recent interview with the  Daily Caller , where he discussed how his Christian faith infused his life, Watson said that one of the joys he gets from fatherhood and having a big family is the friendship he sees his children have with one another.

“We have a lot of fun times together, sitting around the dinner table, talking. Sometimes it’s too loud,” he told the outlet. “We have to tell them to be quiet. But we’re able to have a lot of great conversations and I can see that getting better as they get older.”

Through his family life, he says, he highlights the value of life and the belief that children are blessings.

“Even though it’s tough, and it’s hard and there are sleepless nights, and sometimes you can’t do what you want to do, you want to make sacrifices,” Watson said. “I’ve never heard anybody say when they get older, ‘I wish I had less kids.'”


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

Last May, around the time he began filming his new documentary, Watson raised the issue of the role men play in battling abortion at a major  pro-life rally in New York’s Times Square , saying that “fatherhood begins in the womb.”

The rally, organized by Focus on the Family, came in the wake of the passage of New York’s Reproductive Health Act that  codified  federal abortion rights guaranteed under the 1973  Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision and removed abortion from the state's criminal code.

“As families across our country are being destroyed and as lives are being extinguished, we must expose the lies that are being told. We must peel back those layers of deceit,” Watson urged men at the rally.

“We have to be men who are willing to step into that boldly and with confidence because we were made to be protectors and providers. You have what it takes to be the man God designed you to be,” said Watson, who is a father of seven.

The voice of pro-life men is “greatly needed” in the “public sphere,” he added, insisting that “fatherhood begins in the womb.”

“That’s where it starts,” Watson noted. “It doesn’t start when the baby is out. The relationship you have with the mother, the relationship you have talking to that child en utero. Fatherhood begins in the womb.”  

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

Pretty sure that the planet is overpopulated enough as it is. 

A woman's accidental pregnancy (shit happens and all birth control devices have been known to fail) is nobody's business but hers.

It's her body and not some far right wing religious fascist's. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @1.1    4 years ago

The worlds population growth is slowing and thanks to capitalism its wealth is rising. Over population is not an excuse to terminate innocent human life. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago
The worlds population growth is slowing and thanks to capitalism its wealth is rising.

Prove that.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago

Actually,  yes it is. Even nature deals with overpopulation when adequate resources are unavailable,  until there is a die off and a balance is restored. That's seen in the animal kingdom all the time. The current world population is over 7.5 BILLION, and still rising. Even slowing is still an increase. So yes, it's safe to say we're overpopulated. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @1.1.3    4 years ago

Adequate resources are available due to technological innovation brought on by capitalism. People are having smaller families on their own accord as the route to wealth transitions from having large families to work the farm or for other reasons to manufacturing and technological jobs in more places.  It’s been shown here numerous times that capitalism has been by far the worlds best poverty fighter.  Family planning through birth control is key to preventing over population.  Abortion is not a population control tool. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1.5  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.4    4 years ago
Family planning through birth control is key to preventing over population.

Based on Ben Watson's statement, his movie would advocate against the pill, the most common form of birth control. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.4    4 years ago
Adequate resources are available due to technological innovation brought on by capitalism.

Sure. But there are still limits. Resources are not infinite no matter how much technology grows. Especially if the population keeps growing. Resources become increasingly strained. Not to mention the environmental damage overpopulation causes, which only further diminishes resources.

People are having smaller families on their own accord as the route to wealth transitions from having large families to work the farm or for other reasons to manufacturing and technological jobs in more places.  

Smaller families is a good thing.

It’s been shown here numerous times that capitalism has been by far the worlds best poverty fighter.

And yet, poverty still exists. But the issue isn't capitalism.

 Family planning through birth control is key to preventing over population.

Yes, it is very helpful and necessary. Abortion is also birth control too.

 Abortion is not a population control tool. 

Actually, it is. It helps limit population growth. And it's an option for women to utilize.

 
 
 
lady in black
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2  lady in black    4 years ago

Not your medical decision, NOT your business.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @2    4 years ago

Not mine personally but there’s nothing that 

can be said or done to suppress our beliefs or silence our expression as to what it is that abortion does.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    4 years ago

Who doesn't know what abortion is?  Whine all you like. It's still none of your business if a woman chooses it or not. But attempt to interfere with a woman's choice or prohibit it, especially through legislation attempts, then expect pushback. Especially since it doesn't concern you in the least.

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.1.2  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    4 years ago

Women know what abortion entails, again, not your medical decision, not your business.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.1    4 years ago

One of the justices who approved of [REMOVED] roe vs wade wrote at the time that science could one day reveal that the preborn baby is in fact a real human being with constitutional rights and that if it does the whole thing would have to be repealed.  Science is the pro abortionists greatest enemy as the ultra sound shows a real baby inside and the pain thresholds being felt get younger and younger and the heartbeat is found to begin earlier than originally thought.  Viability is not the issue.  That it’s a beating heart child that can feel pain is.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    4 years ago
That it’s a beating heart child that can feel pain is.

Well that should certainly be a basis for outlawing circumcision, with prejudice.

As far as the first heart beat it is just a flat series of cells that pulsates, performing no pumping.

Over the weeks the two flat membranes curl up to form tubes, eventually intertwining and dividing into multiple chambers until at about 8 weeks it actually resembles a working heart but it isn't attached to anything.  Blood just passes through on the way to and from the placenta.

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How does the fetal circulatory system work?

During pregnancy, the unborn baby (fetus) depends on its mother for nourishment and oxygen. Since the fetus doesn’t breathe air, his or her blood circulates differently than it does after birth:

  • The placenta is the organ that develops and implants in the mother's womb (uterus) during pregnancy. The unborn baby is connected to the placenta by the umbilical cord. 

  • All the necessary nutrition, oxygen, and life support from the mother’s blood goes through the placenta and to the baby through blood vessels in the umbilical cord.

  • Waste products and carbon dioxide from the baby are sent back through the umbilical cord blood vessels and placenta to the mother's circulation to be eliminated.

While the baby is still in the uterus, his or her lungs are not being used. The baby’s liver is not fully developed. Circulating blood bypasses the lungs and liver by flowing in different pathways and through special openings called shunts.  

Blood flow in the unborn baby follows this pathway:

  • Oxygen and nutrients from the mother's blood are transferred across the placenta to the fetus through the umbilical cord.

  • This enriched blood flows through the umbilical vein toward the baby’s liver. There it moves through a shunt called the ductus venosus.

  • This allows some of the blood to go to the liver. But most of this highly oxygenated blood flows to a large vessel called the inferior vena cava and then into the right atrium of the heart. 

Here is what happens inside the fetal heart:

  • When oxygenated blood from the mother enters the right side of the heart it flows into the upper chamber (the right atrium). Most of the blood flows across to the left atrium through a shunt called the foramen ovale.

  • From the left atrium, blood moves down into the lower chamber of the heart (the left ventricle). It's then pumped into the first part of the large artery coming from the heart (the ascending aorta).

  • From the aorta, the oxygen-rich blood is sent to the brain and to the heart muscle itself. Blood is also sent to the lower body.

  • Blood returning to the heart from the fetal body contains carbon dioxide and waste products as it enters the right atrium. It flows down into the right ventricle, where it normally would be sent to the lungs to be oxygenated. Instead, it bypasses the lungs and flows through the ductus arteriosus into the descending aorta, which connects to the umbilical arteries. From there, blood flows back into the placenta. There the carbon dioxide and waste products are released into the mother's circulatory system. Oxygen and nutrients from the mother's blood are transferred across the placenta. Then the cycle starts again.  

At birth, major changes take place. The umbilical cord is clamped and the baby no longer receives oxygen and nutrients from the mother. With the first breaths of air, the lungs start to expand, and the ductus arteriosus and the foramen ovale both close. The baby's circulation and blood flow through the heart now function like an adult's. 

So, at least in this instance the Bible is correct about most mammalian life forms, life begins with the first breath, not a second before.
 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    4 years ago
One of the justices who approved of [REMOVED] roe vs wade wrote at the time that science could one day reveal that the preborn baby is in fact a real human being with constitutional rights and that if it does the whole thing would have to be repealed.  

Nice opinion. But science has advanced and abortion has been revisited many times since Roe. Science has only affirmed and even helped expand abortion rights. SO that point falls completely flat right there.

Science is the pro abortionists greatest enemy as the ultra sound shows a real baby inside and the pain thresholds being felt get younger and younger and the heartbeat is found to begin earlier than originally thought.  Viability is not the issue.  

See first statement. And science shows it's an embryo/fetus, not a baby. The terms are not scientifically interchangeable or equivalent. And yes, Viability is the issue, as that is the cutoff point for elective abortions. Science helped establish that too. So that point fails too!

That it’s a beating heart child that can feel pain is.  

The fetal heart is not fully formed or organized until the 20th week gestation. A fetus cannot "feel" pain until about 26 weeks gestation. That is also established by science . It's very telling how you try to use science to promote your bias, but quickly reject it when it contradicts your beliefs. It's also comical to see you try to use science to make some kind of point, when science does the exact opposite and demolishes your points and/or assertions. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @2    4 years ago

Concerned Women for America through its Board of Trustees has established Sanctity of Life as one of its seven core issues on which we focus our efforts. Below, please find a few very basic verses that describe the Biblical support we find for our focus on this issue, as taken from our Core Issues: Biblical Foundationsdocument. We also include our concerns on this issue, followed by the goals set forth to reverse the devastating trends in our society, as taken from our Concerns and Goalsdocument.

Sanctity of Life

Humans reflect the image of God.

  • “So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” (Genesis 1:27)

The punishment of death was applied to those who take another’s life because God values human life.

  • “Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.” (Genesis 9:6)

God gives life before birth and cares for the unborn.

  • “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them.” (Psalm 139:13-16)

God has a purpose and calling for individuals even before we are born.

  • “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you; I ordained you a prophet to the nations.” (Jeremiah 1:5)
  • “For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink. He will also be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb.” (Luke 1:15). 

    We are concerned about:

    SANCTITY OF LIFE

    1. The protection of innocent human life — including protecting the unborn from abortion, fetal tissue experimentation, and embryonic research; and society from euthanasia, cloning, population control and human genetic engineering.

    2. The physical, emotional and spiritual harm to women, men and their families resulting from abortion.

    3. The devaluing of all human life; a man cannot love God and hate
    his brother.

    GOALS

    We are working to see:

    SANCTITY OF LIFE

    1. Laws passed to protect our society from practices and policies that endanger or debase innocent human life.

    2. Public awareness of the harm of abortion to women, men and their families; and the promotion of pregnancy care centers and post-abortion counseling services.

    3. Society/culture following the Biblical standard of loving
    your neighbor as yourself.  

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.2.1  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    4 years ago

The bible also gives a recipe to give an unfaithful wife an abortion with herbs.  

70% of women who have abortions are Christian.

Republican christian women have abortions.

Republican christian men have their mistresses get abortions.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    4 years ago

Judging strictly from the way humans treat each other and all "subservient" creatures, there is no sanctity of life.

Most of the previous 90 plus billion people died at the hands of other humans, often in the name of religions.

If there were sanctity of life, we would all starve to death rather quickly.

It's an eat or be eaten world that has evolved.  The rest of the animals, insect and fish, eat to survive.

Only man kills for ideology and religion, lays waste to the knowledge of other humans.

Made in the image of God, if you believe in one, is the worst insult to a God that I can imagine.

 
 
 
charger 383
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3  charger 383    4 years ago

The truth about abortion is that it solves problems; otherwise, there  would be no need for them

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1  cjcold  replied to  charger 383 @3    4 years ago

The truth is that on occasion a man and a woman tend to have sex and the woman becomes impregnated. Should that fact completely alter the lives that they have planned?

Once had a girlfriend who had an abortion. My only problem was that she didn't tell me and allow me to help her through it. She already had three kids and didn't want more. I would have stood by her side. 

We broke up because I walked in on her fucking her ex husband. So whose kid was it?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  cjcold @3.1    4 years ago

Sticky situation. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.2  cjcold  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.1    4 years ago

Shit does happen.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.2  Gordy327  replied to  charger 383 @3    4 years ago

Indeed. Here are some more truth's about abortion: It is a valid and established medical intervention. It is a legal procedure. It is a woman's right to choose if she so wishes. And it's nobody else's business! 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.2    4 years ago

It’s the babies business and his or her life at risk.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.1    4 years ago

Fetuses have no rights, babies only a precious few until they are eighteen.

Few give a damn until they can vote.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.2.3  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.1    4 years ago
It’s the babies business and his or her life at risk.

How so? There is no baby in an abortion. And it's still the woman's business, as it's her body, her autonomy, and her rights! Being pregnant doesn't automatically change that.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  charger 383 @3    4 years ago

There are vile and unethical ways to solve all sorts of problems.  Abortion usually solves problems like inconvenience and selfishness 

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.3.1  charger 383  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3    4 years ago

Forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to birth and then raising an unwanted child is vile and unethical and inconvenient and causes more problems.

  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.3.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3    4 years ago

Who cares? Whether a woman wants an abortion or not is her choice and her reasons is her own.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  charger 383 @3.3.1    4 years ago

No one is forced to raise a child.  There are plenty of others who would be happy to do that.  Terminating a human life to avoid the nine months is truly immoral and unethical. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.3.4  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.3    4 years ago
No one is forced to raise a child.  

One just might be forced to carry a pregnancy and give birth.

There are plenty of others who would be happy to do that.

Good for them. That doesn't mean anyone should be required to provide the "goods" to them, as it were.

 Terminating a human life to avoid the nine months is truly immoral and unethical. 

Forcing someone to gestate an embryo and deny her rights and autonomy against her will is what is immoral and unethical.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.3.5  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.3    4 years ago

Xx, you really should research WTF your are talking about before you post. White infants in perfect health are good to go for adoption. The rest of the children on the planet, not so much.

Here WATCH this, I DARE you:

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4  Perrie Halpern R.A.    4 years ago

The term pro-abortion is a lie. We are pro-choice. You do what you feel is right, within the guidelines of the medical community.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    4 years ago

“Things are at a fever pitch,” he said. “My goal is to unveil the truth about abortion, the laws, the history and where our country is headed. I believe in the sanctity of life, be it in the womb or on your deathbed. That’s my conviction. But with the film, I’ll engage those who disagree and hear their reasoning. The No. 1 thing I’m looking for is empathy on both sides.”

Watson's view on the subject shouldn’t be a surprise in Hollywood after he engaged in a high-profile war of words with Alyssa Milano in May after the actress said anti-abortion laws would especially hurt “women of color.”

The married, African American father of seven and author of The New Dad’s Playbook tweeted to Milano that her comment “reveals ignorance, racism or some combination of both. Our children and families are capable of greatness and lies like this harm our future. Don’t patronize us.”

The two settled their differences when Milano tweeted back: “If you’d like to discuss further, please DM me. My door & heart are always open.” The dust-up occurred just as Watson began production and he told THR that he informed the actress of his intention to make a movie about abortion.

“Dissenting views should be respected and in fact encouraged. There are many people in Hollywood who would consider themselves pro-life but they feel as though their viewpoint is unacceptable in the industry,” Watson said. “No one should feel like their job is in danger because of their convictions on this issue.”

Watson says that the movie, which is budgeted at less than $1 million, is also financed by some donors and the Christian charity he runs with his wife called the One More Foundation, which focuses on hunger, poverty, prison reform and other social issues.

Watson said he’s negotiating with distributors and that some groups have already guaranteed they’d be buying out theaters....

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.1  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    4 years ago

Women KNOW the truth about abortion.  We don't need a man to tell us.  When men can get pregnant, then they can have a say

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @4.1.1    4 years ago
When men can get pregnant, then they can have a say

The Beatie case is the first of its kind on record, where a documented legal male gave birth 

Well it looks like men can have a say per your prerequisites. 

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.3  lady in black  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.2    4 years ago

All men, not just one.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @4.1.3    4 years ago

Not all women can give birth...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.5  sandy-2021492  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.2    4 years ago

He can have a say in his own medical care.  Not any other adult's.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.4    4 years ago

And those who can't have no say in the medical care of those who can.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.5    4 years ago

He’s speaking out for the medical care the living human child needs in order to survive the most dangerous nine month period of their whole life.  

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.8  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.7    4 years ago

What, and the woman is just an incubator. The woman has rights a fetus does not and never will.

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.9  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.4    4 years ago

All women have a uterus...all men do not, when ALL men come equip with a uterus then they can have a say

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @4.1.8    4 years ago

I’m glad that most of us born before 1973 didn’t have mother’s who viewed their own child as some hostile invader force not human and being created by her and another’s act.  Who viewed themselves as unwilling incubators for their children when they themselves were once in the other position.  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.11  KDMichigan  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.5    4 years ago
He can have a say in his own medical care.  Not any other adult's.

That isn't what she said, but spin it how you like. But let me guess if men agree with you then that's okay. 

Also I guess you are against government mandated healthcare then too?  Better not let your fellow travelers know you are against the ACA.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.11    4 years ago
if men agree with you then that's okay

It doesn't matter whether men (or women) agree with me or not.  Every competent adult makes their own medical decisions.

Also I guess you are against government mandated healthcare then too?  

Yes, so long as it requires me to pay money to a privately-owned business.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.13  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.10    4 years ago
Also I guess you are against government mandated healthcare then too?  

Do you really think abortion started in 1973?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.14  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @4.1.9    4 years ago
All women have a uterus...all men do not,

Wow that is pretty closed minded of you, there are plenty of women out there without a uterus but I guess in your view they aren't a women, such a progressive stance.

So after I check a woman for a uterus and find out she doesn't have one what should I call her? 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.15  KDMichigan  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.12    4 years ago
Yes, so long as it requires me to pay money to a privately-owned business.

Awesome, I'm actually surprised you admit you agree with Trump on something.

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.16  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.10    4 years ago

Abortions occurred prior to 1973

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.17  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.12    4 years ago

They provide better car than government can ever provide. So you opposed Obamacare on those grounds?  I’m looking forward to Medicare in 5 years where I get to choose between using my premiums to buy government care or directing those premiums to Medicare advantage where my premiums buy better care with private health insurance and pharma.  I’m going to choose my tax dollars I paid go directly to the Insurance ad pharmaceuticals that I invest in. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @4.1.16    4 years ago

But the attitude about them changed after that date. [deleted]

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.19  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.17    4 years ago

Long live capitalism and free market choices in medical matters including insurance and pharmaceuticals. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.20  sandy-2021492  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.15    4 years ago

I've always been against the mandate.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.21  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.17    4 years ago
They provide better car than government can ever provide.

Insurance companies don't provide care.  Not a single insurance company has ever sent an employee to my office to care for my patients.  I do that.

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.1.22  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.18    4 years ago

Abortion has been around since the dawn of man in one form or another.  Women will never be forced to carry to term an unwanted pregnancy

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.23  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.17    4 years ago
I’m looking forward to Medicare in 5 years where I get to choose between using my premiums to buy government care or directing those premiums to Medicare advantage where my premiums buy better care with private health insurance and pharma.  I’m going to choose my tax dollars I paid go directly to the Insurance ad pharmaceuticals that I invest in. 

Good luck with that Fantasy, lol.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.24  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.7    4 years ago
He’s speaking out for the medical care the living human child needs in order to survive the most dangerous nine month period of their whole life.

Many women do get pre-natal care during pregnancy. Pregnancy itself can be dangerous, as there are many complications that can arise. Fortunately, abortion is relatively safe (much safer than a pregnancy). And how is 9 months post birth the most dangerous?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.25  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.24    4 years ago

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.26  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.25    4 years ago

Still more nonsense.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.26    4 years ago

Stating that what others who disagree with you amounts to more nonsense will persuade no one to your pro abortion point of view.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.28  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.24    4 years ago

I’m not referring to the anti life point of view.  I’m stating statistics showing that other than natural death when it occurs, there is no place more dangerous to human life than the 9 months in their own moms womb.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.1.29  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.17    4 years ago

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'Original Medicare' patients can go to the exact same providers as Medicare Advantage patients. Medicare doesn't 'buy government care' it reimburses doctors and hospitals for healthcare that they provide. My mom sees the exact same doctor that she did when she was on her employer's insurance plan. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.30  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.27    4 years ago

Claiming I'm "pro-abortion" is false at best, and a lie at worst. But your BS source is still BS. They can disagree all they want. That just makes them wrong.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.31  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.28    4 years ago

As I said, there are many complications associated with pregnancy. That's a simple medical fact.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.32  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.31    4 years ago

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.33  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.32    4 years ago

You still have nothing original or of value to offer I see!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.34  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.30    4 years ago

Well the term anti life is just as adequate. The pro abortion people are bitter and angry people eager to censor and silence all opposing views that would in any way cause them to feel the guilt that they deserve to feel for holding s pro sbortion/ anti life position. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.35  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.23    4 years ago

You really think it a fantasy that in five years I’ll be able to chose a Medicare advantage plan instead of traditional Medicare?  If Obama couldn’t kill it and Trump is going to be our President until four months before I’m eligible you think some secular progressive leftist democrat president is going to take it away that fast?  Obama was going to take it out to pay for Obamacare but the Tea Party got so many people enrolled in it between the time he announced his desire to pay for Obama care that way and the time it was enacted that it was politically impossible to kill it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.36  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.26    4 years ago

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.37  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.34    4 years ago

No, it's just disingenuous, which is all certain pro-lifers/anti-choicers seem to have.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.38  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.37    4 years ago

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.39  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.35    4 years ago

No I think you do not have a clue about Medicare as it works today,

which is probably irrelevant to how it might operate 5 years or 55 years from now.

If you want to know how it works now, ask someone who is on it and has health issues.

Don't make assumptions.

Use Google to query Medicare Advantage plans in your area.

It's been available for years in spite of your ODS and conspiracy theories.

It does not matter which insurer  you choose except for a few dollars a month extra premium from county to County. State to State.

Humana, United health, USAA or Blue Cross et.al., 

they are ALL Medicare provider/administrators, and all administer Medicare plans for the US government,

including Medicare Advantage.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.40  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.39    4 years ago

There are more individual choices and options with Advantage compared to traditional care.  Traditional doesn’t offer hearing aids, dental, or vision coverage like Advantage does and advantage caps per year out of pocket meaning you don’t need a medi gap  policy to cover the other 20% with Advantage like you do with traditional Medicare.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.2  cjcold  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    4 years ago

Knew an insane lady once who thought she could own me by lying to me about birth control and intentionally having my child.

She ended up killing him and attempting suicide out of spite. Only met him once and he was just as insane as his mother. Since his mother sat him down in front of the TV everyday, he could only talk in cartoon voices.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @4.2    4 years ago

what a terrible thing to say about a child that has two parents just like they/we all do. 

 
 
 
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5  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

.....“We have to be men who are willing to step into that boldly and with confidence because we were made to be protectors and providers. You have what it takes to be the man God designed you to be.”

Watson said that the voice of pro-life men is “greatly needed” in the “public sphere,” also stressing that “fatherhood begins in the womb.”

“That’s where is starts,” continued Watson. “It doesn’t start when the baby is out. The relationship you have with the mother, the relationship you have talking to that child en utero. Fatherhood begins in the womb.”

“There are millions of preborn children and courageous, precious mothers that are depending on us men to be men. So let’s do it.”

135598_w_400_267.jpg Pro-life supporters at the 'Alive From New York' event hosted by Focus on the Family in Times Square New York City on Saturday May 4, 2019. | The Christian Post/Leonardo Blair

Claire Culwell, Melissa Ohden, and Josiah Presley — individuals who reportedly survived abortion attempts when they were in the womb — also gave remarks on the Times Square stage.

“We’re not imaginary,” said Ohden to those gathered. “I’ve been hearing that a lot lately. That abortion survivors don’t exist.”

“We’re not alone in this. A lot of survivors will never share their stories publicly … they live private lives for many reasons.”

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, head of the Archdiocese of New York, shared comments to the pro-life gathering via a video message, as he was unable to be there in-person due to an overseas trip.

“You all are living witnesses that every life matters,” stated Dolan in the video message. “Your life matters. The lives of the unborn, the elderly, the immigrant, the disabled. They matter.”

“I’m glad you’re all gathered to celebrate this sacred truth. Especially now and especially in New York, I’m embarrassed to say, where we’re seeing an unprecedented attack against the human rights of the preborn infant and the most vulnerable in our state.”

Francesca Battistelli, a Grammy award-winning contemporary Christian singer and songwriter, was among the musicians present and performed various religious songs during the event.

Other speakers included Abby Johnson, the former Planned Parenthood leader whose conversion to the pro-life movement inspired the movie “Unplanned;” Ashley Bratcher, the actress who portrayed Johnson in the movie; Alveda King, director of civil rights for the unborn for Priests for Life and niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.; and Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List....

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    4 years ago

Unplanned is a great movie and this new one will be too.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

Soon pro life messages will no longer be censored on twitter with the change that occurred there recently. 

 
 

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