U.K.'s Boris Johnson tells China that Britain will admit 3 Million from Hong Kong

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  one month ago  •  29 comments

By:   NBC News

U.K.'s Boris Johnson tells China that Britain will admit 3 Million from Hong Kong
Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned China that the U.K. admit 3 million people from Hong Kong if a new national security law is imposed.

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LONDON — The United Kingdom will not walk away from the people of  Hong Kong  if China imposes a  national security law  which conflicts with Beijing's international obligations under a 1984 accord, Prime Minister  Boris Johnson  said on Wednesday.

"Hong Kong succeeds because its people are free," Johnson wrote in The Times of London. "If China proceeds, this would be in direct conflict with its obligations under the joint declaration, a legally binding treaty registered with the United Nations."

China’s parliament last week approved a decision to create laws for Hong Kong to curb sedition, secession, terrorism and foreign interference. Mainland security and intelligence agents may be stationed in the city for the first time.

"Many people in Hong Kong fear that their way of life — which China pledged to uphold — is under threat," Johnson said.

"If China proceeds to justify their fears, then Britain could not in good conscience shrug our shoulders and walk away; instead we will honor our obligations and provide an alternative," he added.

Johnson repeated Britain's pledge to give British National Overseas passport-holders in Hong Kong a path to British citizenship - allowing them to settle in the United Kingdom.

There are about 350,000 holders of BNO passports in Hong Kong and another 2.5 million are eligible for them, Johnson said.

The newspaper said that Britain's National Security Council agreed on Tuesday to "rebalance" Britain's relationship with China.

Britain on Tuesday warned Beijing to step back from the brink over the national security law in Hong Kong, saying it risked destroying one of the jewels of Asia's economy while ruining the reputation of China.

Reuters


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1776  Traditional American
1  1776 Traditional American    one month ago

The rest of the Anglosphere (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United States should do likewise and set the welcome mat out to take in all Hong Kong residents that the U.K. hasn’t covered for.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  1776 Traditional American @1    one month ago

Do not all those countries have National Security laws?  What is "Homeland Security"?

In any event, I wonder if China considers Johnson's offer to be a benefit rather than a detriment - a way to get rid of those who are not happy living in Hong Kong.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.1.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    one month ago
What is "Homeland Security"?

a govt dept ran by our people.   not china, and not canada ey... LOL

seems some people in hong kong don't want to be governed by china...

  easy to understand why. - total disdain for communism is not uncommon.

 

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    one month ago

I was thinking the same thing. 

Hard to see this as a "Threat".

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    one month ago

Hong Kong was doing just fine and the people were happy until the Chinese Communist Government took over; which now wants to take away the freedoms of the peaceful people who live there.

Shouldn't the people of Hong Kong have the same freedoms that we have here in the US, as does our neighbor to the North....Canada.

What have been the benefits, if any,  of mainland China's rule of Hong Kong for the last 23 years?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.3    one month ago
"Shouldn't the people of Hong Kong have the same freedoms that we have here in the US, as does our neighbor to the North....Canada."

Yes, they should have a national security law or laws just like the USA and Canada have.  The National Security Law Isn't aimed at the many "peaceful people who live there", it's aimed at the rioters and vandals who are there.  Surely Americans don't condone those who damage private and public property and cause harm to innocent people - those who are doing that to discredit the peaceful protesters in the USA these days, so why should the governing body of Hong Kong?

"What have been the benefits, if any,  of mainland China's rule of Hong Kong for the last 23 years?"

I didn't think mainland China "ruled" Hong Kong, at least not for another 27 years.

Let me ask YOU a question.  If HK was "given back" to China 23 years ago, why were there no protests until a couple of years ago - what changed?  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.4    one month ago

If I have to explain it to ya, Buzz, you haven't been paying attention or prefer to remain willfully ignorant. Haven't the idiot Chi-comms learned anything since the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Have the Hong Kong protests been violent?

https://www.history.com/topics/china/tiananmen-square

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.5    one month ago

I asked about Hong Kong, not about mainland China, so perhaps it's not ME who is either not paying attention or prefer to remain willfully ignorant.  For the 14 years I've been here, the only discontent I've noticed on the mainland has been that of the Uygher separatists. Generally, the people seem to be quite happy and civilized. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.6    one month ago
Generally, the people seem to be quite happy and civilized. 

When your option is pretend to be happy and civilized or death for saying you're not happy, what options do they have?

Buzz, a quick question if you will.

Can the government dictate and direct where you will live and what jobs you can or can't have?  A simple they can and do, or they can't and don't will suffice.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.7    one month ago

I have already lived in three cities and have been welcomed in all of them, and I did at first have a work visa, but now I have passed the age for foreigners to be allowed to work.  As a foreigner I would have to get a "green card" but I'm not qualified for it.  Doesn't matter, I'm retired at the age of 83.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.9  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.8    one month ago
I have already lived in three cities and have been welcomed in all of them,

YOU.   But as you note in 3.2 below, you're in a special class of people.  What about the average Chinese citizen Buzz.  Do they enjoy YOUR freedoms to move about, change jobs, get better housing and more of the perks of life, or are they relegated to whatever the government thinks they deserve?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.8    one month ago

Oh, I don't HAVE to say I'm happy.  Nobody is holding a gun to my head.  I'm quite happy.  Frankly, I'd MUCH rather be here than in the USA these days. But hey, I'm not trying to make you guys who are on the attack about my being here criticizing you for living in the USA, especially considering the chaos going on there these days.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.11  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.9    one month ago

Well yes, I am not a Chinese citizen nor can I ever become one but am here on a renewable visa, so I don't have all the privileges that a Chinese citizen has.  But then is that different than any other country?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.10    one month ago
Frankly, I'd MUCH rather be here than in the USA these days.

Good for you.  You're provided special privileges.

But hey, I'm not trying to make you guys who are on the attack about my being here criticizing you for living in the USA, especially considering the chaos going on there these days.

Once again Buzz, and please try to assimilate this this time.  It's NOT//NOT you.  You're obviously a kindly old Canadian living with a nice young Chinese wife and enjoy special privileges in your adopted country, so what's not to like?

We simply do not like nor trust The Peoples Republic of China, aka Red China, aka Communist China and the ruling party the China Communist Party, and the now President for life Xi Jinping.

If it were not for that Buzz, all would be hunky dory and we would be tiptoeing through the tulips hand in hand.  But alas, it is not, and we are not.  China is an international pariah and more and more countries are waking up to that fact and will be reacting accordingly.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.13  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.11    one month ago
Well yes, I am not a Chinese citizen nor can I ever become one but am here on a renewable visa, so I don't have all the privileges that a Chinese citizen has.  But then is that different than any other country?

That's not the reply to my question Buzz.  For your edification, I have copied it below.  Would you care to try again at actaully answering the question and not dancing around it?

YOU.   But as you note in 3.2 below, you're in a special class of people.  What about the average Chinese citizen Buzz.  Do they enjoy YOUR freedoms to move about, change jobs, get better housing and more of the perks of life, or are they relegated to whatever the government thinks they deserve?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.13    one month ago

Let me try again. Although there is a Hukou (home town registration) system that is consistently being modernized, they enjoy many freedoms to move about, can change jobs, get better housing and more of the perks of life, AND IN FACT AS I HAVE SAID AT LEAST TWICE ALREADY I DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FREEDOMS THAT A CHINESE CITIZEN HAS.  And NO, they are NOT considered robots relegated to whatever the government thinks they deserve.  They can choose, they own cars, they can work wherever there is a job available (which explains why there are so many migrant workers), and they can live anywhere they have a job.    

Are you clear on this yet?

 
 
 
Kavika
1.2  Kavika   replied to  1776 Traditional American @1    one month ago

In 1997 with the handover to China thousands of Hong Kong Chinese took up residence in Canada. Vancouver has a huge HK Chinese population.

As far as the ''Anglosphere'' (that's funny) taking in HK residents I would imagine that they would have to ask for asylum and currently the Administration is cutting that back severely. 

What if Singapore took some or Taiwan or Thailand or the Philippines took them in. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @1.2    one month ago

Ten percent of Toronto's population is Chinese.  Many ultra-rich Hong Kong citizens moved there, and some live in Toronto's most exclusive mansion area.  My son attended a private high school for a couple of years and made friends with a Chinese student who lived in that area.  I once went to pick him up at his home and waited in a front hall I think my whole house could have fit into. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2  Dean Moriarty    one month ago

Hopefully we will see a mass exodus as they flee the tyrannical communist that rot the soul of a nation as Churchill said. I hope they can escape before they have to risk their lives to defect. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    one month ago

Funny thing, Dean, is that I know I haven't lost my sense of smell, and things that rot usually smell pretty bad, but neither I nor anyone I know here think the soul of China smells, but then I'm not so afraid of Communism that I would hate it as much as your comments indicate.  

 
 
 
charger 383
3  charger 383    one month ago

I wonder how the regular British Citizen feels about 3,000,000 more people arriving? 

 
 
 
1776  Traditional American
3.1  1776 Traditional American  replied to  charger 383 @3    one month ago

The three million are or are eligible to be U.K. citizens.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @3    one month ago

They LOVE immigrants there.  You only have to read the news about how much more privilege they are allowed than others.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2    one month ago
You only have to read the news about how much more privilege they are allowed than others

Maybe that's why YOU love it so much.  You're obviously among the privileged class of people.  Hey, isn't that a form of racism?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    one month ago

I am not an immigrant, nor am I nor will I ever be a citizen.  I am no more that a foreigner with a renewable visa that permits me to be here to be able to visit with family - my wife, who IS a citizen here.  And let me be perfectly clear - I do NOT have all the privileges of a Chinese citizen.  When I first came here, I had a visa that allowed me to work here - I was considered a "Foreign Expert", but due to my advanced age I am no longer permitted a work visa.  At my age, the only foreigners permitted to work here would be ones like CEOs of industries or high-ranking professors in universities or persons with special and needed skills of high value to the government. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2.2    one month ago
And let me be perfectly clear - I do NOT have all the privileges of a Chinese citizen.

Damn Buzz, now you're contradicting yourself.   You DID say this did you not?

They LOVE immigrants there.  You only have to read the news about how much more privilege they are allowed than others.
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.2.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.3    one month ago
"They LOVE immigrants there."

Allow me to clarify for you.  There = the UK.   Here = China.    (Although the context itself should have made that obvious)

 
 
 
Pedro
4  Pedro    one month ago

Good. People actually helping people is appropriate.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Pedro @4    one month ago

Agreed. 

 
 
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