Trump Falsely Claims Much of U.S. ‘Corona Free’ as 21 States Face ‘Red Zone’ Outbreaks

  

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Via:  krishna  •  one week ago  •  97 comments

Trump Falsely Claims Much of U.S. ‘Corona Free’ as 21 States Face ‘Red Zone’ Outbreaks
He claimed that “you can look at large portions of our country — it’s corona-free,” even as federal officials distributed a new report finding that 21 states had outbreaks so severe that they were in the “red zone.”

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 President Trump arriving at his coronavirus news conference on Tuesday.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times

Here’s what you need to know:

President Trump returned to defending a discredited drug at a White House briefing Tuesday evening in which he also made claims about the trajectory of the virus that clash with his own administration’s assessments and bemoaned his low approval ratings.

The president defended sharing a version of a video promoting the use of the drug hydroxychloroquine that was deleted Monday night by Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, which all said that the video had violated their policies on sharing misinformation about the virus.

And he lamented that health officials in his administration, including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, were more popular than he is. “He’s got this high approval rating,” Mr. Trump said. “Why don’t I have a high approval rating — and the administration — with respect to the virus?”

Mr. Trump was asked about one of the speakers in the video, who identified herself as Dr. Stella Immanuel. She claimed “you don’t need masks” to prevent the spread of the virus and spoke of treating hundreds of virus patients with hydroxychloroquine. He called her “impressive.”

Dr. Immanuel has drawn scrutiny for a series of religious sermons posted on her YouTube channel, in which she linked medical conditions to sex with demons and witches, as well as making references to alien DNA.


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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    one week ago

At the briefing Mr. Trump was asked about one of the speakers in the video, who identified herself as Dr. Stella Immanuel. She claimed “you don’t need masks” to prevent the spread of the virus and spoke of treating hundreds of virus patients with hydroxychloroquine. He called her “impressive.”

Dr. Immanuel has drawn scrutiny for a series of religious sermons posted on her YouTube channel, in which she linked medical conditions to sex with demons and witches, as well as making references to alien DNA.

When a reporter mentioned Dr. Immanuel’s background to the president, including comments attributed to her that “doctors make medicine using DNA from aliens,” Mr. Trump responded, “I know nothing about her,” and abruptly ended the briefing moments later.

That's why many wise people steadfastly refuse to have sex with demons and witches!

(Now you know!!!)

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Krishna @1    one week ago

That's why many wise people steadfastly refuse to have sex with demons and witches!

Maybe Milania can make it a national program for her to champion....

 
 
 
cjcold
1.1.1  cjcold  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1    6 days ago

If I have alien DNA am I safe having sex with a succubus?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @1    one week ago
as well as making references to alien DNA.

She claims that scientists are making cures for disease with alien DNA and are trying to produce a vaccine that makes people non-religious.

Just where did she get her MD? And who gave her a license to practice medicine?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2    one week ago

She is an idiot so of course Trump hangs on her every word.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.3  r.t..b...  replied to  Krishna @1    one week ago
Dr. Immanuel

Stella...Stella

"This is my house and I'll talk as much as I want to" ...from "A Streetcar Named Desire" ~ Tennessee Williams

 
 
 
Suz
1.3.1  Suz  replied to  r.t..b... @1.3    5 days ago

I'm so sorry I'm late to the party, but I never see all the available articles. 

This is my house and I'll talk as much as I want to" ...from "A Streetcar Named Desire" ~ Tennessee Williams

That never worked in my household.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Krishna @1    one week ago

This quack 'doctor' has a small practice in a Texas mini-mall.

Is that where she treated hundreds of patients with Co-vid?

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
1.5  Adam_Selene  replied to  Krishna @1    one week ago
That's why many wise people steadfastly refuse to have sex with demons and witches!

Now you tell me.

But just because something is not wise does not mean it is not memorable.

 
 
 
CB
1.5.1  CB   replied to  Adam_Selene @1.5    5 days ago

HA!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @1    6 days ago

refuse to have sex with demons and witches

I guess Darren Stevens didn't get that memo.

 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    one week ago

He claimed that “you can look at large portions of our country — it’s corona-free,” even as federal officials distributed a new report finding that 21 states had outbreaks so severe that they were in the “red zone.

A new federal report found that the number of states with outbreaks serious enough to place them in the “red zone” had grown to 21, and urged officials in them to impose more restrictions.

The 21 states now in the “red zone” — Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin — were designated as such because they had more than 100 new cases per 100,000 people in the past week.

 
 
 
Krishna
3  seeder  Krishna    one week ago

The president defended sharing a version of a video promoting the use of the drug hydroxychloroquine that was deleted Monday night by Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, which all said that the video had violated their policies on sharing misinformation about the virus.

Mr. Trump continued to promote the use of hydroxychloroquine, which several major studies have concluded is not effective in treating the virus. 

Federal health officials have warned of dangers.

In June the Food and Drug Administration revoked an emergency use authorization for the use of hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19.

In a July 1 update, the F.D.A. said there were reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries and liver problems and failure.

 
 
 
JBB
4  JBB    one week ago

He meant that in much of America Covid-19 is free!

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @4    one week ago

Free?

Well that's just another of his many accomplishments-- yet another campaign promise fulfilled!

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5  FLYNAVY1    one week ago

We're in this situation now with this virus out of control..... Wait and watch what happens when we have kids in school, and the weather turns cooler....

I have yet to meet anyone with school aged kids that is going to send them to school right now.

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1  MUVA  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5    one week ago

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Paula Bartholomew
6  Paula Bartholomew    one week ago

Trump is now bitching that Fauci's approval rating is higher than his.  "It can only be my personality."  It is more than just his personality that has his rating in the toilet.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    one week ago

Well, if he wasn't for his personality, he probably would have gotten a handle on this virus and his approval ratings might not be in the shitter.

If a person knows they have a crappy personality, why run for POTUS?

 
 
 
cjcold
6.1.1  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1    5 days ago

His personality defect is extreme narcissism. His fondest desire is to be King of the World.

 
 
 
cjcold
6.1.2  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @6.1.1    5 days ago

Even though it is unlikely that he could pass a basic civil servant exam.  

 
 
 
cjcold
6.1.3  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @6.1.2    5 days ago

Doubt he could even pass a citizenship test.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.4  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1    5 days ago

Y'all. One thing I assure you, some folkwriter will write of this virus and this president and all the pain he has caused us. It will not be the mark on history Donald Trump wants, but he has made an impression, an indentation, in all our lives! History will remember the man not suited for an inescapable virus in our country and how we languished in sores and tears over months while our president 'fought us' for all he was worth. And what, and all, we really wanted was a president who could be a friend. (-:

 
 
 
r.t..b...
6.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    one week ago
"It can only be my personality."

There have been many in this position that have ascended to the post by being less than personable. That he craves approval (not unlike a vampire craving the next meal) is what separates this one from all the rest and speaks to his inability to lead from the front. Every decision is formulated to feed that need...hence the lack of vision in formulating policy and simply the reactionary desire to feed his unwavering base and more importantly, his unwavering need for approval. Sad  to see from any individual, tragic as an existential threat when that individual holds the most influential post on the planet.

 
 
 
CB
6.3  CB   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    one week ago

More like it is he has no validity (a lousy reputation) with the general public. No need obsessing on Fauci, now! Sweep around his own front door!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7  Just Jim NC TttH    one week ago

4,366,924 cases in the US. 330,000,000 people in the US. So it stands to reason, most of the US is still Corona free. Let me know when we hit 165,000,000

 
 
 
gooseisgone
7.1  gooseisgone  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7    one week ago
Let me know when we hit 165,000,000

You are exactly right Jim, we are currently 98% Corona Free(liberals have a hard time with math). 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
7.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7    one week ago
165,000,000

At least you have set a number. This administration has yet to fully acknowledge the significance of the outbreak.

School starts across the country in the next month...will we see leadership from the top in addressing the coming escalation in cases or more of the same denials and deflections and lack of preparation? Not a single incident in dealing with it to this point should lend hope for a positive change going forward.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
7.2.1  gooseisgone  replied to  r.t..b... @7.2    one week ago
School starts across the country in the next month

Tell me how many students have infected teachers with coronavirus (you can use worldwide if you'd like)?

 
 
 
Kavika
7.2.2  Kavika   replied to  gooseisgone @7.2.1    one week ago
On July 16, the state had a total of 23,170 children ages 17 and under who had tested positive since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the Florida Department of Health. By July 24, that number jumped to 31,150.
That's a 34% increase in new cases among children in eight days.
And more children in Florida are requiring hospitalization. As of July 16, 246 children had been hospitalized with coronavirus. By July 24, that number had jumped to 303.
That's a 23% increase in child Covid-19 hospitalizations in eight days.
During that same time period, the death toll among children in Florida went from 4 to 5.
FYI, this is Florida. 
 
 
 
gooseisgone
7.2.3  gooseisgone  replied to  Kavika @7.2.2    6 days ago

Thank you for the stats but, you didn't answer my question: how many students have infected teachers with coronavirus

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
7.2.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  gooseisgone @7.2.1    6 days ago
Tell me how many students have infected teachers with coronavirus

world wide?   the answer is ZERO

cheers :)

 
 
 
Kavika
7.2.5  Kavika   replied to  gooseisgone @7.2.3    6 days ago

 Schools are starting sometime in August, depending on the school district and state. We'll find out in the first couple of months after the start of school. 

 
 
 
Kavika
7.2.6  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @7.2.5    6 days ago

Here is Florida, Miami-Dade school will be all virtual, 356,000 students. Many of the Florida school districts will have both in-class and virtual.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.2.7  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @7.2.6    6 days ago

I just wonder how many more of America's children must die of this virus before Trump is satisfied with his job well done? Sending students, even with masks back to in-person schools at this time is, IMHO, child endangerment. 

Whether it is the teachers who infect the children, children who infect teachers, or both, it is one of the worst decisions ever made at the cost of the loss of so many more unnecessary deaths of our children, who are unable to protect themselves against the insanity of the man in the WH who does not care on whit about the lives of others, only his own.

 
 
 
Krishna
7.2.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  gooseisgone @7.2.1    6 days ago

School starts across the country in the next month

Tell me how many students have infected teachers with coronavirus (you can use worldwide if you'd like)?

How many students have infected teachers during the Summer Break-- when schools were closed?

Zero!

(But you already knew that, LOL! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.2.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  r.t..b... @7.2    6 days ago

Until it hits their own backyards, people will follow quacks and listen to certain people who don't know what the hell they are talking about. Cain denied CV was real and look what happened to him.

 
 
 
cjcold
7.2.10  cjcold  replied to  gooseisgone @7.2.1    5 days ago

Since school hasn't started yet, how is that a valid, intelligent question?

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.3  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7    one week ago

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Kavika
7.4  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7    one week ago

How do you know that they are corona free? Do you have access to the total number of tests given in the US? Just for your information, over 4.5 million tests have had positive results and of that, the death rate is 153,438. 

At the rate we're going we should reach 165,000 in a couple of weeks. 

Oh, BTW Florida, where I live, the last two days have had the highest death rate from the virus since March. 191 and 217.

Amazing how well the US is doing containing the virus..../s

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.1  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @7.4    one week ago

As you know Kavika, virus deaths in Florida are reported as Corona "related" deaths, not death by Corona. That means that many of those counted by Corona deaths probably has underlying conditions and probably died from those causes, just a coincidence they had Corona. It also means that there are those that died in car accidents either had minor symptoms or were asymptomatic. The same goes for most other causes of death, including Alzheimer's, COPD, emphysema, CHF, etc.

If anyone died FROM Corona, more than likely the count is much smaller. This goes for most other states as well. Unfortunately, politics and money talks.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.4.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @7.4.1    one week ago

Look, if these people never got Corna, they would not have died. That makes the cause of death the virus. 

Let me put this another way. If you had stage 4 cancer and crossed the street and were hit by a car and died, your cause of death would be vehicular, not cancer. 

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.3  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.4.2    one week ago
Look, if these people never got Corna, they would not have died

Yes, because no one has ever died from COPD, Heart failure, Alzheimer's, cancer or simply old age.

SMDH...

 
 
 
Kavika
7.4.4  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @7.4.1    one week ago

Come on bugsy,  if corona caused the death no matter the underlying conditions it wouldn't be from Corona? 

That dog doesn't hunt.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.4.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @7.4.3    one week ago

Of course they do, but they can also live for many years with those conditions. But then they got COVID and oops... dead. 

I'm the one smh (notice I don't need the "d" in there to make my point). Apparently those lives are just numbers to you that don't count. 

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.6  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @7.4.4    one week ago

The problem is, Corona may not have caused the death. The underlying cause could have been the culprit. Just because someone catches Corona does not mean that will be the cause of death.

JFYI, if you want to respond, I won't be back on until late tomorrow. Going to pick up the wife from work and going dark afterward.

Have a good night.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.7  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.4.5    one week ago
But then they got COVID and oops... dead. 

How do you know those people were not in the end of life stage, or stage 4 (the last stage in many cases)? You don't.

They may have had a "six month to live" diagnosis and 5.5 months have already gone by when they contract corona.

There are people who die FROM corona, but not everyone that is counted as such.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.4.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @7.4.7    one week ago

And you do realize that every day doctors tell people they have X amount of time to live and live on for years? It goes both ways. But if the thing that tips you over the edge is a virus, then you have died from that virus. There is not a doctor out there who would not put that down as cause of death. 

Btw... being old is not a cause of death. My dad is 86 and very active. If he gets covid and dies, he's didn't die from old age. He died from Covid.

 
 
 
Kavika
7.4.9  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @7.4.6    one week ago

bugsy, I'm 80 years old and in very good health. I'm 6' 1'' and weight between170 and 175. I still do push up and situps and walk a couple of miles a day. I have one problem, I have asthma and that would be an underlying condition for me and it puts me in a very dangerous zone if I contact COVID. If I did and died from it, it's shouldn't be counted as a corona death...That is not going to fly my friend. 

BTW my asthma is well under control and without COVID I expect to live to be 100. 

P.S. I still have a full head of hair, it's an Indian thing..LOL

Stay safe.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.10  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @7.4.9    one week ago
it's shouldn't be counted as a corona death

You are right...it shouldn't. If, God forbid, you catch COVID and you pass away, the cause of death would probably be respiratory failure, not COVID. I also hope you live well past 100. You seen to be taking very good care of yourself.

I wish you all the greatest of health for many years to come.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.11  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.4.8    one week ago
But if the thing that tips you over the edge is a virus, then you have died from that virus.

Not necessarily primarily from the virus, but virus related. If you have CHF and catch COVID, There is avery good chance you get heart congestion, then maybe heart failure, then you died from heart failure, not COVID.

I wish your father a very long life and great health, but if he has a potential life threatening comorbidity and catches COVID, more than likely aggravations from that comorbidity would be the cause of death. COVID would be a contributing factor, not the primary cause.

 
 
 
CB
7.4.12  CB   replied to  bugsy @7.4.11    one week ago

Herman Cain passed today and it is suggested (in the media) that he had some issue with cancer in his life. His stated cause of death: "Complications due to Covid-19." Hope that clarifies this for you.

 
 
 
Kavika
7.4.13  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @7.4.10    one week ago

No bugsy, that isn't what I was saying. There should have been an ? after it shouldn't be counted as a corona death?  My next sentence made it clear what I was saying..''That is not going to fly my friend.''

My apologies for the poorly worded sentence.

It would be a death by respiratory failure caused by COVID.

Hopefully, it won't happen cuz I have a lot of things left on by ''Bucket List''.

Stay safe and thank you for the good wishes.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.14  bugsy  replied to  CB @7.4.12    6 days ago
Complications due to Covid-19.

I already know what it means. It means he had underlying conditions, I believe he had cancer, and with the complications of COVID piling on, the cancer unfortunately got the best of him.

 
 
 
Split Personality
7.4.15  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @7.4.14    6 days ago

He was a stage 4 colon cancer survivor  and was cancer free and tested annually since 2006.

He didn't just die of colon cancer four weeks after contracting the COVID curse.

“We knew when he was first hospitalized with COVID-19 that this was going to be a rough fight. He had trouble breathing and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. We all prayed that the initial meds they gave him would get his breathing back to normal, but it became clear pretty quickly that he was in for a battle.”

He continued:

“There were hopeful indicators, including a mere five days ago when doctors told us they thought he would eventually recover, although it wouldn’t be quick. We were relieved to be told that, and passed on the news via Herman’s social media. And yet we also felt real concern about the fact that he never quite seemed to get to the point where the doctors could advance him to the recovery phase.”

https://newsone.com/3986204/herman-cain-dies-at-74-after-fight-with-coronavirus/

The respiratory failure had nothing to do with his old cancers.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.4.16  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @7.4.15    6 days ago

OK, I stand corrected here, however, I never said NO ONE dies from COVID, I said that many who have had COVID have died primarily from other comorbidities. COVID was a complication, much like when someone dies from dementia, a complication of Alzheimers.

 
 
 
CB
7.4.17  CB   replied to  bugsy @7.4.16    6 days ago

My understanding of a "complication due to  ______" scenario is one where some future destructive disease is acting to worsen an impaired disease in the body which was never completely resolved, or where the body was left weakened and susceptible (vulnerable) due to drugs taken to maintain status,  and a new malady arrives on the scene breaking down and destroying the body's defenses.That is, Covid-19 took advantage of a compromised state causing death.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
7.4.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @7.4.9    6 days ago
"BTW my asthma is well under control and without COVID I expect to live to be 100."

From your lips to Mother Earth's ears.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.4.19  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @7.4.9    6 days ago
 my asthma is well under control and without COVID I expect to live to be 100. 

Rock on, Chief! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif

I too, still have too many things left on my To Do list, one of them is dusting. Gads I hate dusting. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_85_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.4.20  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @7.4.9    6 days ago

I still have a full head of hair, it's an Indian thing

It must be as I have never seen a bald or balding Indian.

 
 
 
cjcold
7.4.21  cjcold  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.4.8    5 days ago

Bugsy doesn't even believe in anthropogenic global warming or evolution as a few here obviously don't. How do we trust folk who have never studied any science to have a rational opinion on scientific matters?  

 
 
 
Dulay
7.5  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7    one week ago

So by your criteria, NO deadly disease should worry Americans. Less than 50% of the population is effected by any one disease after all. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.5.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @7.5    6 days ago
So by your criteria, NO deadly disease should worry Americans. Less than 50% of the population is effected by any one disease after all. 

Didn't say that oh " I put words in people's mouths to divert"

Read the headline again. 

Trump Falsely Claims Much Of U.S. ‘Corona Free’ As 21 States Face ‘Red Zone’ Outbreaks

So it's NOT false to claim that much of the US is Corona free. The majority of the populace does not have the virus. I mark this claim as true..

 
 
 
bugsy
7.5.2  bugsy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.5.1    6 days ago
I mark this claim as true..

And so do those with a brain.

There have been 4.6 million people in the US over the past 5 months that have contracted COVID. No one really knows how many of that 4.6 million have recovered, however, it can probably be assured that nowhere near 4.63 million are infected right now.

Having said that, even if 4.63 million did have it right now, that is about 1.4 percent of the total population of the US.

Therefore, Trump is right. FAR less than 50 percent of the population is affected with COVID.

Now, I'm interested in how the expert internet (fill in the blank) spins this.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.5.3  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.5.1    6 days ago
Less than 50% of the population is effected by any one disease after all.  Didn't say that oh " I put words in people's mouths to divert"

You sure as hell implied it.  

Let me know when we hit 165,000,000. 

That was you right? 

So it's NOT false to claim that much of the US is Corona free. The majority of the populace does not have the virus. I mark this claim as true..

Trump said  “you can look at large portions of our country — it’s corona-free,” so he wasn't talking about the POPULACE, he was talking about the AREA. So yours is a false equivalency. 

 
 
 
CB
7.5.4  CB   replied to  Dulay @7.5.3    6 days ago

They're spinning, because they don't give a damn. It's disgusting. It's not a matter of how many people survive this pandemic in our country, but how many people are loss to it. And what we can do about it.

It is the conservative version of "Save us!" when red states are in crisis, but ignoring the cries of blue states in crisis. It is why Trump is going down. People do care about the sick, dying, and human casualites. Specious arguments damn those who bring them! For "best practices" mean we must look back upon the "large empty gaps" left in our society by those being crippled, physically and mentally compromised, and gone forever from their communities.

Their (Covid-19) lives matter!

 
 
 
Krishna
7.5.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @7.5.2    6 days ago
Therefore, Trump is right. FAR less than 50 percent of the population is affected with COVID.

Your amazing lack of concern for the lives of your fellow human beings is indeed underwhelming. jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
7.5.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @7.5.2    6 days ago
Having said that, even if 4.63 million did have it right now

To put things in perspective, the U.S. now has more cases than any other country in the world.

Also the highest number of new cases in the last 7 days of any country in the world.And by far the largest number of deaths in the entire world...

Which has me wondering-- why are you so obsessively (and constantly!) trying to downplay the significance of the virus...? Do you actually believe that-- or is it perhaps part of some bizarre political agenda?

 
 
 
Dulay
7.5.7  Dulay  replied to  Krishna @7.5.6    6 days ago

What's worse is that the CDC reported that in some areas, the cases are 13Xs higher. If that follows across the board, that's over 60 MILLION. I wonder how high the number has to be to 'impress' them? 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
7.5.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  bugsy @7.5.2    6 days ago

And yet the healthcare, child care, school, supply chain, etc. systems are being strained to the breaking point. 1.4% of 320,000,000 is not a small number, and apparently 1.4% is enough to bring the country to its knees. This is a big fucking deal and getting this shit under control needs to be our government's top priority. But of course we have a president who isn't worried about 1.4% and who habitually does everything he can to avoid actually leading, because that means taking responsibility if shit goes south. 

So even if his claim is "true", the situation is still the same.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.5.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @7.5.5    6 days ago

Look who his idol is.  Lack of concern for people is par for the course when you support Trump.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.5.10  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @7.5.5    5 days ago
Your amazing lack of concern for the lives of your fellow human beings is indeed underwhelming.

So, stating a fact is lack of concern?

Maybe if you knew what I do for a living you would change your mind dramatically.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.5.11  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @7.5.6    5 days ago
To put things in perspective, the U.S. now has more cases than any other country in the world.

Only because WHO would not dare report the true cases and deaths in China. WHO is paid and bought for by them.

We have a population of over 330 million people in this country. There are only 2 that have more than us, China and India. We already know China is probably seriously downplaying their cases, but for some reason, liberals seem to want to back communists like the Chinese and what used to be the USSR.

Show me where I am downplaying anything. I only state the facts..

 
 
 
bugsy
7.5.12  bugsy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.5.8    5 days ago
And yet the healthcare, child care, school, supply chain, etc. systems are being strained to the breaking point. 1.4% of 320,000,000 is not a small number, and apparently 1.4% is enough to bring the country to its knees. This is a big fucking deal and getting this shit under control needs to be our government's top priority. But of course we have a president who isn't worried about 1.4% and who habitually does everything he can to avoid actually leading, because that means taking responsibility if shit goes south. 

Just another "I hate Trump and will blame him for anything and everything.". 

Why did you not blame Obama for 8 years of up to 20 percent of the population contracting the flu each year of his presidency. Did he avoid actually leading? Seems like we had a president who did not give a shit about up to 20 percent of the population each year for 8 years. It also seems like his admin failed to fulfill what you believe is the government's biggest priority, "getting this shit under control".

Before you say..."show proof"

https://www.healthline.com/health/influenza/facts-and-statistics#4

 
 
 
bugsy
7.5.13  bugsy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.5.9    5 days ago
Look who his idol is. 

My idol is my dad. He has been gone for 15 years. Are you saying COVID is my dad's fault.

That seems pretty stupid of you to say that.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
7.5.14  Thrawn 31  replied to  bugsy @7.5.12    5 days ago

Oh I absolutely hate Trump, as a human being, I have made that plainly obvious for 4 years now. That has never been any sort of mystery, in fact I have probably expressed my hatred for "russian cocksucking whore" more openly and plainly than anyone else here.

Why did you not blame Obama for 8 years of up to 20 percent of the population contracting the flu each year of his presidency.

Because the flu is an annual event, it always happens, we know it happens, and the federal government preps for it. Oh, and Obama never said we shouldn't worry about it, its no big deal, and it will disappear because of magic. 

Did he avoid actually leading?

No, because there wasn't much to lead. Flu season was flu season, same shit different day. His predecessors created a system and he didn't fix what wasn't broken. 

Seems like we had a president who did not give a shit about up to 20 percent of the population each year for 8 years.

Seriously? [Deleted]

It also seems like his admin failed to fulfill what you believe is the government's biggest priority, "getting this shit under control".

....fucking seriously? [Deleted]

 
 
 
CB
7.5.15  CB   replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.5.14    5 days ago

Let me help, Thrawn31 and it's a new month beginning today! Save yourself. Steady on.

The flu has a vaccine, and an annual vaccine is the best humanity (the world over) can do against it now. No president is expected to perform "miracles," but we do want them to save us, protect us and our loved ones, don't give us 'over' to the grave as a matter of doing business. It is called displaying good morality. A display of "best practices."

Coronavirus has no cure, but time and taking the measure of its inhabitants. There is nothing to present against it immediately. We do not charge President Trump for the virus. We do hold him responsible for nonchalance and looking past the disease ravaging us. We are angry when Trump tells us to "suck it up" and let it take your loved ones whom you will not even get to say a proper/traditional goodbye to. We are disappointed that he won't fight the virus anymore, and still he won't get out of the way and let the professionals alone at their "best practices."

 
 
 
cjcold
7.5.16  cjcold  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.5.1    5 days ago

Trump, dishonestly, was talking square miles and counting desert, mountain, agricultural, pasture and badlands terrain where there are few folk as equally as he was spinning cities. 

I guess it's any port in the storm when one is grasping at straws; as is Trump. 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.5.17  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @7.5.10    5 days ago
So, stating a fact is lack of concern?

Is the following what you are claiming to be a fact? 

Having said that, even if 4.63 million did have it right now, that is about 1.4 percent of the total population of the US.

Therefore, Trump is right. FAR less than 50 percent of the population is affected with COVID.

Now, I'm interested in how the expert internet (fill in the blank) spins this.

Because if it is, you made the false equivalency as your buddy Jim and y'all are the ones desperately spinning. 

 
 
 
Krishna
7.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7    6 days ago
4,366,924 cases in the US. 330,000,000 people in the US. So it stands to reason, most of the US is still Corona free.

Yup. All these deaths are no big deal, eh Just Jim?

MEMORIES

 
 
 
CB
8  CB     6 days ago

This video is Corona-virus related and it breaks my heart. All this fighting from the president being combative to people dying over mask wearing or lack thereof to this:

Nurse Fights Man On Subway For Blaming Health Care Workers For Coronavirus (Chicago)

The last thing either of these guys need (and I am sure the nurse did not need it) is to be breathing in each other's face and 'grunting' it out during a pandemic! This pains me to watch and makes me so sad. The stress and strain is just getting to people, I guess.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  CB @8    6 days ago
The stress and strain is just getting to people, I guess.

You have no idea. Our University is planning on opening in a couple weeks, and we are not ready. I am pretty sure my white and gray hairs have doubled in the last 3 months trying to come up with some fucking way our department can make this work. My honest assessment, we're fucked. We do not have the equipment, the PPE, the manpower, or the space in general to prevent an outbreak on the campus that forces us to shut down again (students aren't even really back and we have already had multiple positive cases among the athletes and student workers). And when that happens, here comes another round of layoffs and furloughs because the university will not be able to handle the revenue loss. I will be okay, but the situation is not good.

I have actually started testing the waters for another job...

 
 
 
CB
8.1.1  CB   replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1    6 days ago

As I am reading your comment CNN's Ana Carrera  is reporting that Rep. Raúl Grijalva of Arizona has tested positive after attending a congressional hearing where Rep. Gohmert of Louisiana, who tested positive earlier this week,  was in attendance.  CDC is projecting 20,000 COVID deaths in the next three weeks. Carnidals - Brewers game postponed due to positive tests.

I think you should seriously think about it. . . .

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8.1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  CB @8.1.1    6 days ago

Here's the bitch... the health insurance is the best you will find in the state, and during a pandemic when both myself and my wife are essential workers I almost cannot take the chance. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
8.1.3  Release The Kraken  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1.2    6 days ago

I'm an essential worker, not sure who lobbied for that but i am sure some cash changed hands. I however love covid, I am paid my normal salary but only have to work three days a week now. Social distancing schedule on a team to minimize exposure.

I hope this lasts as long as possible.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Release The Kraken @8.1.3    6 days ago

Lol, I am not so fortunate. I can do some work from home, but a lot I have to be physically present for. A lot of that has to do with the fact that I cannot trust much of anyone in my department to competently handle much. The 11 and 12 hour days, plus emails/phone calls and texts after hours, are starting to get old. Fuck pandemics. 

 
 
 
CB
8.1.5  CB   replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1.2    6 days ago

Oh wow! Damn.

 
 
 
CB
8.1.6  CB   replied to  Release The Kraken @8.1.3    6 days ago

I hear you on the 'up-side" of it all. But, and there is always a "but," you, we, have societal responsibilities to end alien germs intent on our utter destruction! So I want to count you all-in on getting rid of this invisible 'kracken' churning around the country! We need to feel comfortable providing hugs and love and touching support to our worried, sick, suffering (not just Coronavirus/COVID-19), dying, and dead family members and friends. Too many funerals under the 'new normal' where few if any are in attendance.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8.1.7  Thrawn 31  replied to  CB @8.1.5    6 days ago

I feel like I have aged 10 years in 4 months. 

 
 
 
CB
8.1.8  CB   replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1.7    5 days ago

My hands. They show signs of this 'era.' I can barely bring myself to name it (the era this is, that is). So many sanitizing regimens undertaken. So many trials and testings. Like a tree with its rings, if nothing else, my hands will tell the story of what happened in 2020 (to me).

I am so sorry for what you must be experiencing without describing it in relief. "The times they are a'changing us." A song goes. This pandemic came in like a 'bogartin' monster and it will leave us with other songs marking its passing (and those beautiful people we have lost to it).

Bob Dylan The Times They Are A Changin' 1964

Note: Some days I feel the weigh of this song on the years I now carry.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.9  Dulay  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8.1.4    5 days ago

Ya, I know a professor in Fresno that said that she was working 14-16 hour days before the semester ended. She said that students were much more 'needy' and didn't seem to care if she had a life. 

 
 
 
cjcold
8.1.10  cjcold  replied to  Dulay @8.1.9    5 days ago

Spent a few years teaching to help pay for my student loans. 

Glad that was long ago and not now.

All I want now is to be far away from folk.

Was invited to a going-away party today.

Drove by and nobody was wearing a mask or social distancing.

I drove by, honked, and drove home. 

Too damn old and have survived so much to contract this from fools.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
9  Thrawn 31    6 days ago

This is the kinda shit that makes a bullet to the brain sound like a good idea. 

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
9.1  Release The Kraken  replied to  Thrawn 31 @9    6 days ago

Have you tried drugs? Nothing gets rid of depression like MDMA or a pile of Peruvian marching powder.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
9.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Release The Kraken @9.1    6 days ago

Addicts may be on to something...

 
 
 
CB
9.1.2  CB   replied to  Thrawn 31 @9.1.1    6 days ago

Maybe, but. Not doing a pandemic without recourse. An 'addict' would have to isolate in a neutral (virus-free) environment for the duration.

 
 
 
cjcold
9.2  cjcold  replied to  Thrawn 31 @9    5 days ago

Have survived much. Plan on surviving this by sheltering in place, masking, gloving and wearing safety glasses on the rare occasion I make it into town.

 
 
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