‘You can’t do that’: Trump refuses to discuss coronavirus death rate and says US beating rest of world on cases

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  2 months ago  •  15 comments

By:   Andrew Naughtie, Independent

‘You can’t do that’: Trump refuses to discuss coronavirus death rate and says US beating rest of world on cases

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‘You can’t do that’: Trump refuses to discuss coronavirus death rate and says US beating rest of world on cases





Andrew Naughtie


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Donald Trump prefers to discuss the US's coronavirus deaths on his chosen metrics: Getty Images

Donald Trump  has maintained that the US is beating the rest of the world on the  coronavirus  death rate, even as thousands of Americans are still dying every week.

Mr Trump’s analysis, which he advanced during a discussion with  Axios  interviewer Jonathan Swan, is based on deaths as a proportion of cases but ignores deaths per capita — a measure that puts the US among the worst countries in the world.

Asked about why the US is in such a bad situation relative to other countries, Mr Trump shuffled through pieces of paper bearing various charts, and handed Mr Swan a line graph which he said showed the US “lower than the world” in “case death”.

“Oh, you’re doing death as a proportion of cases,” said Mr Swan, inspecting the graph. “I’m talking about death as a proportion of population. That’s where the US is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, et cetera.”


“You can’t do that!” Mr Trump replied, this time holding a bar graph. “You have to go by — look, here’s the United States — you have to go by the cases.”


“What it says is when you have somebody that — where there’s a case, the people that live from those cases.”

Pressed again on per capita deaths by Mr Swan, who pointed out that the US has fared dramatically worse than South Korea or Germany, Mr Trump returned to testing, protesting that the US does more tests than any other country and asking “don’t we get credit for that?”

It is true that the US has seen a relatively low rate of deaths among those who have tested positive, but as Mr Swan pointed out, the wide disparity in national testing rates makes that figure a dubious indicator of different countries’ progress.

Meanwhile, according to Johns Hopkins university, the US is currently high up the ranking for deaths per capita, with a score of 47.33 confirmed coronavirus deaths per 100,000 people. The US’s total number of deaths sits at more than 154,000, nearly 60,000 ahead of the second-placed country, Brazil.

Mr Trump has bridled at the use of per capita figures before, most famously at a May press conference with the governors of Kansas and Arkansas, where he pushed back on a question about whether the US is genuinely pulling away from the rest of the world with its testing regime.

“You know, when you say ‘per capita’, there’s many per capitas,” the president retorted. “It’s like, per capita relative to what? But you can look at just about any category, and we’re really at the top, meaning positive on a per capita basis, too.”





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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

Donald Trump prefers to discuss the US's coronavirus deaths on his chosen metrics

Donald Trump   has maintained that the US is beating the rest of the world on the   coronavirus   death rate, even as thousands of Americans are still dying every week.

Mr Trump’s analysis, which he advanced during a discussion with   Axios   interviewer Jonathan Swan, is based on deaths as a proportion of cases but ignores deaths per capita — a measure that puts the US among the worst countries in the world.

Asked about why the US is in such a bad situation relative to other countries, Mr Trump shuffled through pieces of paper bearing various charts, and handed Mr Swan a line graph which he said showed the US “lower than the world” in “case death”.

“Oh, you’re doing death as a proportion of cases,” said Mr Swan, inspecting the graph. “I’m talking about death as a proportion of population. That’s where the US is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, et cetera.”

“You can’t do that!” Mr Trump replied, this time holding a bar graph. “You have to go by — look, here’s the United States — you have to go by the cases.”

“What it says is when you have somebody that — where there’s a case, the people that live from those cases.”

 
 
 
Tessylo
2  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

Oh how cute!  tRump has been given a binder of charts and graphs to refer to.

I bet there are lots of colorful and pretty pictures.

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pat wilson
2.1  pat wilson  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 months ago

Did anyone think he could do the math ? Mr. Swan was wasting his time interviewing this imbecile.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  pat wilson @2.1    2 months ago

I think it's wonderful that Mr. Swan pressed tRump on all his lies and bullshit.  

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 months ago

Given how little Trump understood the charts, they might as well have been a coloring books......

 
 
 
MAGA
3  MAGA    2 months ago

As usual Trump is exactly right.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @3    2 months ago

As usual you are exactly wrong.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
3.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    2 months ago

And demonstrably so too.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  MAGA @3    2 months ago

Waste of time.....always has been.

Tell me again.... how many commandments hasn't Trump broken?

 
 
 
bbl-1
4  bbl-1    2 months ago

I suspect the Trump has other issues on his mind---or whatever it is that is confined to that narrow realm.  There are the tax issues, money issues, payoff issues and that damned Deutsche Bank thing not to mention the other bank things and not to forget the Insurance Companies.

As far as the COVID thing, Trump just wants to get through it by hook or crook while waiting for the 'strongly perfect' thing to lay the blame.  Hell, if I were the Administration I'd give the 'Two Corinthians' another look, might be something there to smear. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
4.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  bbl-1 @4    2 months ago

His pucker factor of what's going on in the SDNY must be a 10 out of 10.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5  Bob Nelson    2 months ago

Trump has a problem as soon as he's not allowed to lie.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    2 months ago

Like reading..... I'm wondering if Warton is going to want heir diploma back.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    2 months ago

Like reading..... I'm wondering if Warton is going to want heir diploma back.

 
 
 
freepress
6  freepress    2 months ago

God forbid we ever use math to follow a problem. I can almost understand the right wing following blindly an ideology, but surely they know how basic math works. Have they actually abandoned math as "fake news"?

 
 
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