Who Is Willing To Tell King Lear The Truth?
NBC White House correspondent Hallie Jackson has reported that there is disarray in the Trump camp. She has been told that no one wants to be the one to tell Trump the truth - it's over.
So Trump will lay in bed eating cheetos and big macs and imagining that 20 divisions, er lawyers, are on the way to snatch victory from defeat. He may not be able to watch much tv though, as even Fox News cannot ignore reality any longer. Maybe Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin can keep his hopes up for a last second counterattack on their radio shows.
Trump actually convinced himself that if he was on the short end of the voting there must have been massive cheating by his enemies. There is a video clip showing Trump in 2016 saying that he would accept the results of the election - IF HE WON. His words were able to seen as humorous 4 years ago, because he did win and the alternative was never put to the test. 2020 is a different story and Trump's 2016 intention to not accept he could lose an election has become totally relevant now.
What will happen? Will he hide in his private quarters for two and a half months?, will he go and live in semi-seclusion at one of his golf resorts? Will he launch a grievance campaign on conservative media complaining that the world was conspiring against him? More ominously, will he decide to go down in flames by issuing draconian executive orders related to immigration or race relations? Will he order Bill Barr to arrest Joe Biden and Barack Obama?
For once in his miserable life he should try to put himself in someone else's shoes , and act like all the other losing presidential candidates have , with dignity and at least an outwardly cheerful appearance. That could be a true gift to a troubled country. But then, Donald Trump is not a giver.
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Sad.
He doesn't even like the job as POTUS but he cannot stand the humiliation of losing.
Trump also said that Biden was the worse candidate ever.
Now he has to deal with being beaten by the worse presidential candidate ever.
And the sad fact is he can't see the irony
Yeah didnt he say that if he lost to Biden we would never see him again?
Unfortunately I think that was just another lie.
I forgot about that comment of Trump's. I challenge him to live up to is word of course I'll lose that bet.
Didn't he also say if he lost he would have to leave the country? That too, is nothing but a lie. And I would not be surprised if Melania left him and went back to NY. And thin of the humiliation Barron is likely to face from all the lies and such that his Father has spewed, and those yet to come. I really feel sorry for the kid.
I would love to be the one who explains it to Trump!
The line forms at the left. Trump thinks he has to concede for it to count. He doesn't. It has been protocol in the past, but concession is not needed for Biden to get inaugurated. As far as Trump wanting recounts. He fought against them in 2016 and now the shoe is on the other foot. If counting were stopped today, Biden would be the winner. But Trump is hoping that the results would be different when it would be the same. It would be like...Fat ass Trump, sitting on a fence, trying to make a dollar out of 98 cents. Trump right now can't get the EC votes he needs anyway. Say he would pull off the popular vote. It didn't matter in 2016 and it won't matter now, but he will claim if he gets the popular vote, that should be what counts. Well Orange Turd, if it didn't matter in 2016 then it sure as hell does not matter in 2020.
Wouldn't it be ironic (and maybe just a bit delicious) if trmp were to win the popular vote but Biden wins the EC vote?
That would be awesome. Hillary would be doubled over in laughter.
You'll hear the NT right start bitching about the electoral college and how it should be ended
I don't know if I am right, left, or in the center, but I am one of those who would like to see elections return to the people to decide, not a select few.
Electoral College has got to go. It is an archaic construct that never actually served its intended purpose and really only serves now to empower they tyranny of the minority and degrade the integrity of a democratic republic.
You're going to need armor and a helmet
I wish a heifer would...
OMG...don't listen to that asshat. He's been pushing the "democrats are stealing the election" song since Wednesday
Trump has no proof to back up his bs. I would love just one judge to tell his lawyers that Trump is nothing more than a petulant 2 year old and if they continue to bring frivolous lawsuits, then Trump can pay ALL of the court costs, cash only.
I tried telling someone that today. Some people I work with have this idea that I think like them just because I'm white and served in the military. I take every opportunity to disabuse them of this notion. He was going on about voter fraud and the courts and blah, blah and I told him the courts won't even touch his cases without clear evidence. However, if it does go to SCOTUS, we'd better hang on for a bumpy ride
Why do you think that Trump had that bitch recently installed on the USSC. She is his toadie, bought and paid for.
Expect the Bill Barr/John Durham investigation of Trump's political enemies to die a quiet death now.
This time 4 years ago, we were told Russians hacked the election....
In 2004, John Kerry claimed Bush stole Ohio...
And 2000, we know that story....
Funny watching Democrats complain about Trump acting like a Democrat. No matter what Trumps does, it will be virtually impossible for him to do more damage and promote more reckless conspiracies than Obama/Clinton did after 2016. That's the gold standard for refusing to accept reality.
We were told that by ALL US Intelligence agencies. Putin said they didn't. Who did Trump believe?
Name 1 Democrat that did not give a concession speech.
I'd ask for evidence them creating any conspiracy theories, but what would be the point? You have none to provide.
no, they didn't. Not a single agency claimed the Russians hacked the election.
Name 1 Democrat that did not give a concession speech.
Al Gore waited until mid December after his legal fight to recount ballots only in the counties that he believed would help him ended.
In 2004, Democrats in Congress tried to fight the certification of Ohio's vote in January to try and overturn the election.
And in 2016 the Obama administration used Russian propaganda paid for Hillary Clinton to try delegitimize the election and Trump's Presidency.
SO in the grand scheme of things, Trump still has a lot of time to offer a meaningless concession speech.
for evidence them creating any conspiracy theories, but what would be the point? You have none to provide.
Of course one of the true believers would deny they are conspiracy theories. Adam Schiff never lies, right? I get it, you are about the last person who still believes in the Steele dossier. You want to "prove" that Michael Cohen was in Prague fixing the election with the Russians again? Good times! Anyone peddling that BS after the Mueller report really is always worth a laugh.
Trying to argue semantics?
Very well, how is it possible to "hack" a public event. Only computers can be hacked and the election is not a computer. So anyone stating that the "election" wasn't "hacked", would be an idiot to make the comparison.
Then gave a concession speech. That's all you got? Gore didn't concede quickly enough? Wow you are reaching.....
So what?
Got any facts, or just debunked conspiracy theories?
Trump has told people he has no plans to concede even if his path to victory is blocked
Trump has not prepared a concession speech: report
You tell me. There were people on this claiming Russia hacked the election and changed votes. I'm sure you weren't one of them....
So what?
So, Democrats are sore losers who keep trying to steal the election well after it's over. Are you paying attention to the discussion?
G ot any facts, or just debunked conspiracy theories?
I'm glad you've finally realized, years after the rest of us, the Steele Dossier was just a debunked conspiracy theory. Congrats! Shame you and the Democrats peddled it for years, but it's progress I guess.
Trump has not prepared a concession speech: report
I'm sure he hasn't. He's going the Gore route. So he's got another month before that's an issue.
So your entire claim is a semantics argument? There is also evidence of Russians attempting to "hack" into various computers involved in the ballot process.
Russia Targeted Election Systems in All 50 States, Report Finds
Hacking doesn't have to be successful to be counted.
And your evidence of this is....... Yeah, didn't think so.
You're making the claim, now provide the evidence..... Yeah, didn't think so.
And totally ignored the other link. What are you going to say, next month, when he still hasn't conceded?
Al Gore did not concede to George Bush until December 13th.
Did you whine about that back then.
Somehow I believe the answer is no.
We already covered this.
7.1.2 Ozzwald replied to Sean Treacy @ 7.1.1
Then gave a concession speech. That's all you got? Gore didn't concede quickly enough? Wow you are reaching.....
No, what I am saying is Gore did not concede until December 13th and you libs were perfectly OK that he waited that long.
You should be OK with Trump getting the same respect of a disputed election.
If this plays out until mid December, then you should be perfectly OK with it.
If not, you are being hypocritical.
I think Gore pushed too hard. But, still, the 2000 election was extremely close. It came down to one county in one state. And the media had not collectively declared the winner (unlike 2020). In 2000, there was a possibility that Gore might win because it was crazy close. It is not close here, Trump clearly lost. It is over. Trump's refusal to concede is pathetic but it is quite believable given his character.
And I'm perfectly fine with Trump waiting that long. However people around Trump are indicating that he has no plans to concede ever.
Care to show where I said otherwise????
Yup.
Again, you are trying to argue something I never said, while deflecting from what I did say.
Then it will be fitting to see him force escorted to his ride by the secret service.
There are three people who are trying to convince Trump to concede, Melania, Jared and Ivanka, as they know it is the right thing to do.
Then you have brain dead people Like Lindsey Graham who it telling him not to concede. I only hope that he will listen to the three who are trying to do the right thing, but, knowing Trump, he will listen to Graham and fight to the last second.
And I would not be surprised that if it comes down to Trump having to be physically escorted out of the WH, his personal armed army will try to prevent it.
I'd pay to see that perp walk...
They just need to leave a trail of french fries from the oval office to a waiting car...
I’m hoping that “the truth” includes the phrase “you are under arrest”.
I am hoping for "You have the right to remain silent." accompanied by a roll of duct tape.
Knowing his mouth though, I am reminded of a line from Shrek
Shrek to Donkey - "You have the right to remain silent but you lack the ability."
Trump allies reportedly discussing who will have to break the news of his potential loss
Who is willing to tell King Lear the truth?
His daughter Cordelia, the Earl of Kent, and, of course, The Fool.
Who is willing to tell King Donald the truth?
Ivanka? The Fool, Kushner, wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass.
I volunteer.
Ok. You're good to go.
Unindicted co-conspirator, AKA inividual #1, know the clock is ticking, and Bill Barr won't be running protection for him much longer.
I'm not certain we haven't heard the last from Mr Barr.
I hope these are the last words we hear from Barr: "I plead guilty, Your Honor, and I throw myself on the mercy of the court."
And from Trump, too, for that matter.
I hope they get a "hanging" judge.
I put hanging in quotes because while I don't want to see them actually get a sentence of hanging, I do want them to get the maximum sentence allowed
Barr hasn't done anything other than be a politician. Being a heinous ass isn't illegal.
With sentences to be served consecutively.
nice touch
You will never her that from Trump. He will plead innocent and blame it all on Barr, Fauci, any and all of those past and present that he can blame. We all know that Trump never does anything wrong. It's always someone else's fault.
However, time may have caught up with him, and his patent excuses will no longer save him.
I don't necessarily agree with that EG. Barr's transgressions may well have violated federal statutes. We will leave it to the experts to determine whether they actually amount to prosecutable offenses.
That may not be exactly correct. We do not know everything Barr has done. A new AG may take a cursory look.
If brought up in any charges, Barr can just say that he was taking orders from Trump. He could then have the last laugh, as he know that Trump would not hesitate to do the same to him.
Uh, you mean the same defense Adolf Eichmann used at the Nuremberg trials? That didn't work out very well.
I hope Biden appoints a new AG, one who works for all of us and just not one man.
Well, that rules out Eric Holder
Don't worry. As soon as Trump is out, Barr is gone.
I hope Biden actually drains the swamp. Barr and Miller would be a good start.
He will. The entire Trump cabinet will be gone. Stephen Miller won't be allowed into the White House, I would imagine.
All outgoing administration appointees tender their resignations on or before January 20th, Inauguration Day.
No it didn't, and it would not work for Barr either. But, he would likely try it.
Actually have been asked to leave a Chuck E Cheese with all of the cheerleaders celebrating birthdays....
true story.
they suck and so does the pizza, lol
It sure does. I tried to make up for it with a salad. The salad bar sucks, too.
But it was a good way to entertain the kid on a rainy day.
I could take that two ways....
One thing I miss because of this damn pandemic. A good salad bar.
OOPs
That is only because this nation has never had a 'toddler' as president.
Classic
I don’t care how long it takes, i want a fair, accurate election. If trump loses fairly, so be it.
That is really funny.
Breaking news from Twitter: Trump refuses to leave the White House. (Turn on your audio)
LMAO, he doesn't want to leave his slinky...