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So, Did ‘Bad Things Happen’ With the Election in Philadelphia?

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  4 years ago  •  14 comments

So, Did ‘Bad Things Happen’ With the Election in Philadelphia?
Mr. Biden also did worse in Philadelphia in comparison with 2016 than in most other counties in the state. Mr. Biden outpaced Mrs. Clinton in 57 of Pennsylvania’s 67 counties. Though he got one percentage point more of the two-party vote than she did statewide, he underperformed her by 2.3 points in Philadelphia County — the biggest percentage-point decline in any county in the state. Philadelphia stands out as the county where Mr. Biden did particularly poorly, not suspiciously well.

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Joe Biden’s lead in the presidential election results in Pennsylvania has now surpassed 81,000 votes, far exceeding Donald Trump’s 44,000-vote victory margin there four years ago. Yet the Trump campaign continues to claim in court huge but incalculable levels of fraud, particularly in Philadelphia.

As with cases filed elsewhere around the country, Mr. Trump will not succeed. Even a cursory examination of the data refutes any notion of substantial voting fraud.

As a threshold matter, it is important to understand how eerily similar the 2020 results in Philadelphia were to 2016. As of  Tuesday evening, 743,966 votes for president had been counted in Philadelphia — an increase of 34,348 votes from 2016. This 4.8 percent increase in turnout is less than half of the 11.6 percent increase in turnout seen in the state as a whole.

Not only was the increase in the number of ballots cast in Philadelphia from 2016 to 2020 relatively modest, but Mr. Trump won more votes and a greater percentage of the votes there than he did in 2016. He received 18 percent of the two-party vote this year, up from 15.7 percent in 2016, gaining 24,122 votes. In contrast, Mr. Biden received two percentage points less of the two-party vote in the city than Hillary Clinton did in 2016. If any fraud was attempted in Philadelphia, it failed miserably.

Mr. Biden also did worse in Philadelphia in comparison with 2016 than in most other counties in the state. Mr. Biden outpaced Mrs. Clinton in 57 of Pennsylvania’s 67 counties. Though he got one percentage point more of the two-party vote than she did statewide, he underperformed her by 2.3 points in Philadelphia County — the biggest percentage-point decline in any county in the state. Philadelphia stands out as the county where Mr. Biden did particularly poorly, not suspiciously well.

Just because Mr. Biden did worse than Mrs. Clinton and underperformed expectations this year does not disprove possible fraud, of course. Central to the “bad things are happening in Philadelphia” claim by Mr. Trump is the notion that a suspicious number of absentee ballots came in for Mr. Biden in Philadelphia. Absentee ballot fraud — either from dead people voting or election officials stuffing ballot boxes — is central to the Trump campaign’s claim of a stolen election. Again, the available evidence suggests nothing irregular.

Mr. Biden received a higher percentage of the vote by mail than he did in the Election Day vote throughout the state. Philadelphia, which is much more Democratic than the rest of the state — 76 percent of the county’s voters are registered as Democrats, compared to 47 percent statewide — lies just where we would expect it to be, given the partisanship of the county.

Skeptics of this analysis are likely to say that it is irrelevant, because the margins were so close that even a small number of manufactured ballots could make a difference. To this, we offer two rebuttals.

The first is that Mr. Biden’s lead in the state, over 81,000 votes, is not close, and continues to grow. Second, for Mr. Biden’s lead to be the result of “stuffed” absentee ballots in Philadelphia would require that over 20 percent of mail ballots there to have been fraudulent. Such a large number of questionable ballots would have tripped off alarm bells for the Democratic and Republican officials who were overseeing the count.

Statistical evidence such as this should not be necessary to cast doubt on the fraud claims being made in court by Mr. Trump’s campaign. The arguments simply are implausible on their face, in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. The allegations suggest a conspiracy or a remarkable coincidence of Republican and Democratic election officials in multiple states looking past or covering up hundreds of thousands of illegal votes.

That’s not all that is implausible. The purported fraud appears to have affected only the top of the ballot and not the down-ballot races. Republican congressional candidates were surprisingly successful in those same states where allegations of illegality in the presidential race have been made.

All of this may seem like beating a dead horse or trying to kill a fly with a bazooka, given the Trump campaign’s repeated losses in court. (On Tuesday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rejected the campaign’s contention that observers in Philadelphia were kept too far away to properly watch the vote counting.) But the president’s dangerous claims of fraud are taking root in the public consciousness, causing significant doubt, especially among Republicans. Sixty-one percent expressed no confidence in a recent survey that the election was held fairly.

One does not need to place witnesses on the stand to have them recant their claims or to embarrass the lawyers who cannot support these allegations. The evidence available in the public record demonstrates on its own that the claim of widespread fraud is itself a fraud.

The more compelling conclusion is the one reached last week by the election and security experts in the Department of Homeland Security, which declared that the 2020 election was “the most secure in American history.”


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Yesterday at his shitshow Rudy Giuliani spent a lot of time trying to connect Philadelphia to massive voter fraud. This article totally  debunks that possibility. 

Biden did worse than Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia County. If Democrats in Philadelphia were stealing mail in votes in massive numbers how could that be?  There weren't that many mail in votes in 2016. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

Carefully planned and organized voter fraud can be difficult to prove

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FLYNAVY1
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1.1.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago

Organized voter fraud is what republicans do at every opportunity because they can't win in honest democratic elections..... It's called disenfranchisement, and it is easy to prove.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.1.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago
Carefully planned and organized voter fraud can be difficult to prove

Well in that case, piss off.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago
Carefully planned and organized voter fraud can be difficult to prove

Especially when it doesn't exist except in the minds of the deluded.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.4  evilone  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 years ago
Carefully planned and organized voter fraud can be difficult to prove

So much for the Republican Party "Rule of Law" claim. Apparently as long as they believe there's crime everyone's guilty. Don't put up witnesses to Emperor Donny's alleged crimes in impeachment trial, don't offer any proof of voter fraud in the election, and for god's sake don't use common sense logic. We just know...

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     4 years ago

Rudy Four Seasons and the Qanon lawyer looked like total fools yet many fools will believe their BS. Talk about lemmings.

 
 
 
Save Me Jebus
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2.1  Save Me Jebus  replied to  Kavika @2    4 years ago

Where they go 1, they go all. Spoken like true Qanon sheep. And they call us sheeple??

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @2    4 years ago

Which one was the Qanon lawyer?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.2    4 years ago

the one holding the pizza box ...

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.2.2  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.2    4 years ago

The blond woman Sidney Powell.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.2    4 years ago

Sidney Powell, the tall woman who looks vaguely like she belongs in the British royal family. 

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Kavika
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2.2.4  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.3    4 years ago

Acutally her main job is working at Four Seasons Landscaping spreading horseshit.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @2.2.4    4 years ago

she owns the dildo shop and the crematorium too. when those old trumpsters get too excited at one, she can get rid of them at the other.

 
 

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