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Trump asks Supreme Court to invalidate millions of votes in battleground states - CNNPolitics

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  4 years ago  •  121 comments

By:   Ariane de Vogue (CNN)

Trump asks Supreme Court to invalidate millions of votes in battleground states - CNNPolitics
President Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Wednesday to block millions of votes from four battleground states that voted for President-elect Joe Biden.

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(CNN)President Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Wednesday to block millions of votes from four battleground states that voted for President-elect Joe Biden.

Trump's request came in a filing with the court asking to intervene in a lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton seeking to invalidate millions of votes cast in four states that went for Biden: Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The President is being represented by a new attorney, John Eastman, who is known for recently pushing a racist conspiracy theory that claimed Vice President-elect Kamala Harris was not eligible for the role because her parents were immigrants. This story is breaking and will be updated.

CNN's Kaitlan Collins contributed to this report.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

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Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

He's such a POOR LOSER, SORE LOSER, WHINY LITTLE BITCH!

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    4 years ago
such a POOR LOSER, SORE LOSER, WHINY LITTLE BITCH!

I think those of us on the right were saying the same exact thing about the left for the entirety of the past 4 years......and boy....were we right

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @1.1.1    4 years ago

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TᵢG
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2  TᵢG    4 years ago

Trump is going to be disappointed.   He probably thinks the SCotUS will 'be loyal' rather than 'be professional'.   That, of course, is his ego and stupidity talking.   The SCotUS has a long-term perspective and Trump is definitively on his way out.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

They basically told him to pound sand with one word....DENIED!  Even Amy shot him down which surprised me.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    4 years ago

too bad not on 5th Avenue

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1    4 years ago

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Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    4 years ago

The question of whether or not the State of Texas has standing to bring this case should be interesting.

I haven't been following the details of all the lawsuits, but I would have thought that if Trump or the Republican Party thought the state governors had changed election rules in violation of their state constitutions, they would have pursued that argument already. If memory serves, we already had suits to that effect (that failed) during the summer.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Tacos! @4    4 years ago
The question of whether or not the State of Texas has standing to bring this case should be interesting.

the case will be heard. and it is already on the docket.

proving those states ignored their own election laws is too easy. (open / shut case)

and now 17 states have joined the lawsuit.

www.google.com/search?q=17+states+back+texas+scotus

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    4 years ago

That’s all good news and I’m glad that Trump is onboard with this.  This was likely to be the grounds this is fought over, those four states not following their own laws and constitutions and thus the US constitution.  

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.2  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    4 years ago

if it is found that states can just abandon their election laws to get the so called 'winner" of their choice? it will be time for a serious discussion regarding a national divorce.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    4 years ago

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lady in black
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4.1.4  lady in black  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    4 years ago

Just because it's on the docket does NOT mean it will be heard.  Anytime anyone submits papers to the SC it is docketed.  

The PA case that they just denied is on the docket

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    4 years ago
the case will be heard. and it is already on the docket.

It can be on the docket and the Court can still rule Texas lacks standing. Sometimes almost the whole published opinion is about standing and they never get to the underlying issues. It feels like they do that as a dodge to avoid dealing with a political issue. 

Speaking of which, the Court may decide this is officially a political issue and therefore outside their review. That happens, too. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    4 years ago

Hey, where you been?

You're the one who's been saying all along that tRumpturd was going to win!

LOL!  HE'S SUCH A LOSER.  Joe Biden beat him by over 7 million votes!

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.1.7  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1    4 years ago
the case will be heard. and it is already on the docket.

The Kelly v Pennsylvania case was 'on the docket too' 8. You know what happened to that right? 

On average, 7000+ applications are filed with the SCOTUS every year. So it's pretty fucking obvious that an application does NOT mean a HEARING.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @4    4 years ago

Texas appears to have no standing, but all lawsuits between states are settled by SCOTUS.

This should be over by 5PM EST tomorrow.

Trumps legal team is 0-50 do far.

It remains to be seen if Eastman gets a hearing or a rebuke.

Meanwhile, yesterday, TX AG Paxton turned himself in to be fingerprinted and have his mugshot taken on unrelated charges from 2007.

(Insider trading after a guilty plea and $1,000.00 fine in 2005 for insider trading (?).

7 Deputy AGs recently signed an open letter to the FBI to investigate Paxton, again, for corruption, bribery and insider trading.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2    4 years ago
Texas appears to have no standing,  This should be over by 5PM EST tomorrow.

LOL

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.1    4 years ago
Texas is relying on an obscure source of the Supreme Court’s power — its ability to hear disputes between states immediately without having them go through lower courts, known as “original jurisdiction.” But the claim at the heart of the suit has nothing to do with interstate relations — like a border dispute or litigation over water rights. Nor does it have anything to do with fraud. Rather, Texas is arguing that coronavirus-related changes to election rules in each state violate the federal Constitution, never mind that most states (including Texas) made such changes this cycle.

But hypocrisy aside, the suit is also a perfect microcosm for so many of the other cases we’ve seen filed in the past month: It is lacking in actual evidence; it is deeply cynical; it evinces stunning disrespect for both the role of the courts in our constitutional system and of the states in our elections; and it is doomed to fail.

When the drafters of the U.S. Constitution agreed to create a Supreme Court, one of the few points of consensus was that such a tribunal was necessary, at the very least, to resolve disputes between states . After all, neither North Carolina’s nor South Carolina’s state courts could be trusted to fairly resolve a dispute between those two states. And lower federal courts within those states, insofar as Congress chose to create them, might also be subject to localized biases. Thus, the Constitution not only gives the Supreme Court the power to hear interstate disputes; such disputes are one of only two classes of cases Congress can empower the Supreme Court to hear as an “original” matter — without any prior proceedings in a lower court.

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All of that puts into context just how much of a Hail Mary the new Texas suit is compared to the other cases that have been brought thus far. None of the claims Texas is pursuing are incapable of being addressed by the lower courts; they’ve just been rejected by those tribunals. None of the injuries Texas is invoking as justification would be unique to Texas. And the factual allegations Texas makes in its filings are both preposterous on their face and have been soundly discredited by every court that has considered similar allegations to date.

At a more fundamental level, the notion that it is appropriate for one state to sue another because of dissatisfaction with the results of the election in that state is not just offensive; it is belied by at least one prior case in which the court refused exactly that relief. And allowing Texas to bring a suit like this would inevitably open the floodgates — to California suing Texas over its environmental regulations; to New York suing Florida over its Covid-19 response; and so on.

SCOTUS is a tribunal, not a fact finding body. They haven't the time or the resources to re-litigate what the lower and Superior Courts in those 4 states have already rejected.

The writer of the article, Steve Vladeck, professor at the University of Texas School of Law, also notes that;

All of this may help to explain why the Texas solicitor general — the state’s leading advocate before the Supreme Court — did not sign onto any of the filings in this new suit. And although the president and his supporters have attempted to make mountains out of procedural molehills (such as the fact that the court “docketed” Texas’ suit — which is not the same as agreeing to hear it) , the justices are highly unlikely to be sympathetic.
 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.2    4 years ago
Nor does it have anything to do with fraud

ignoring a state's election laws to rig a presidential election is very fraudulent and directly impacts all states.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.3    4 years ago

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Split Personality
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4.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.3    4 years ago
Nor does it have anything to do with fraud

Please don't quote things I haven't said.

ignoring a state's election laws to rig a presidential election is very fraudulent and directly impacts all states.

Already litigated between 36 and 50 times from the lower state courts through the Supreme Courts of the 4 states being sued.

SCOTUS already denied to hear several cases based on States right to govern themselves and their own elections.

The article explains it well enough, I suggest you read the whole thing slowly.

Anyone supporting this chicanery are making Gore & HRC look not just sane but saintly.

You certainly aren't making Trump look any better either.

This isn't Venezuela, yet and I hope it never comes to that.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.7  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.6    4 years ago
This isn't Venezuela, yet and I hope it never comes to that.

that flipping the script bs does not work on me.

the left could not win so they tried to steal it just like they do in venezuela.

if biden prevails we will never see a fair election in the usa again. and dems will never lose another election again. 

if you actually did not want the usa to become venezuela you would support election integrity above everything else. if joe won fair and square, so be it.    (so try that bs on someone else.)

 like it or not 18 state governors and AG's agree here. this case will be heard and proving those battleground states ignored their own laws  is very easy.


if states can ignore their own election laws to get the president of their choice?   that civil war people have been talking about ain't so far away. expecting the other states to just "let it slide" is ridiculous.

 
 
 
lady in black
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4.2.8  lady in black  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.6    4 years ago

Here's a link to all election cases

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.9  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2    4 years ago

Trumps legal team is 0-50 do far.

this is not trumps legal team... 

this case was brought by texas backed by 17 other states.  but I think trump is trying to join the lawsuit?  not sure about that. or even why... 

 regardless... the left has to win them all, trump only needs one/

This should be over by 5PM EST tomorrow.

see ya back here tomorrow night after 5pm  :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.11  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.7    4 years ago
that flipping the script bs does not work on me.

Really? you seem triggered by it.

if biden prevails we will never see a fair election in the usa again.

If trump prevails we will never see a fair court system for 100 years...

and dems will never lose another election again. 

Are you feverish? They will most likely lose the House in 2022 mail in ballots or not.  Write it down.

if you actually did not want the usa to become venezuela you would support election integrity above everything else.

Where did I say I want the USA to become like Venuzuela?

if joe won fair and square, so be it.  

 6 states have had 51 suits settled or tossed with no fraud proven, I think you're flogging a dead horse.

(so try that bs on someone else.)

Still triggered?

 like it or not 18 state governors and AG's agree here.

Meaningless partisan BS, please note that the TX state Solicitor who is our employee expected to present our case to SCOTUS refused to sign on the case.  That alone is ominous.

this case will be heard and proving those battleground states ignored their own laws  is very easy.

Again, this is a states rights issue already settled and certified by AZ NV PA NM MI MA & GA, 52 cases.

Trump lost them all.

if states can ignore their own election laws to get the president of their choice?

You aren't listening.  Facts matter, our opinions, not so much.

Those cases have all been presented 52 times to no avail.  The votes were count 4 times in GA.

that civil war people have been talking about ain't so far away.

Don't know what you mean, but I do know that the subject gets tossed for terms of service around here.

expecting the other states to just "let it slide" is ridiculous.

Would you let PA sue TX to verify the outcome and do a recount, particularly in Harris and Dallas?

Nope, neither would I.  I be right beside you telling them to mind their own fucking business.

In this case I will with side PA and tell TX and the others to shove it.

This has gone on too long.

if joe won fair and square, so be it.  

So be it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.12  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.9    4 years ago
this is not trumps legal team...

John Eastman is another Trump lawyer...

but I think trump is trying to join the lawsuit?  not sure about that. or even why... 

Then you are unprepared to discuss the topic intelligently and just keep throwing out emotional bs about civil war?

Good to know.

regardless... the left has to win them all, trump only needs one/

that's the problem with your thinking. we aren't playing at a casino for $$.

After 52 losses, Team Trump doesn't deserve any more house credit.  He should be making a list for Mayflower.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @4.2    4 years ago
Meanwhile, yesterday, TX AG Paxton turned himself in to be fingerprinted and have his mugshot taken on unrelated charges from 2007.

That's why he brought the lawsuit. He wants a pre-emptive pardon

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.7    4 years ago
if biden prevails we will never see a fair election in the usa again. and dems will never lose another election again. 

Question for you. If the Democrats "stole" this election, then what happened in Ohio and Florida? Those are considered swing states, aren't they?

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.15  devangelical  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.7    4 years ago
that civil war people have been talking about ain't so far away

pffft, bring it ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @4.2.15    4 years ago

Oh, you didn't know? We're wimpy liberals we don't know how to fight......

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.17  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.16    4 years ago

... and the liberals that actually do own guns don't know how to shoot them. boo hoo hoo

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.2.18  igknorantzrulz  replied to  devangelical @4.2.17    4 years ago
iberals that actually do own guns don't know how to shoot them.

well, since i'm Independent of both thought AND reason, I DID learn how to operate FireArms, as these clowns R talking about threatening the most basic of our entire Countries foundations, based on, uhhh, based on a POS potUS that has told over 3o,000 LIES to date, LIES EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE, and based upon this jack off on switcher of the damn TRUTH, N word up, these knumb skullz are actually heeding his dawg whistle, without AN IOTA OF PROOF, as Trump is, 0  and 53 in challenges to date.

.

hat a sad reflection of US and the blatant IGNORANCE that engulfs SO M<ANY...again WTF , Y can't they SEE what is SO DAMN OBVIOUS to me, and N E other thinkin individual ?

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.19  devangelical  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.2.18    4 years ago

allegiance to the death for their reich fuhrer. aka the 2020 tea party do-over gambit.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2.20  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.6    4 years ago

I love how that one bat shit ex team Trump attorney is accusing Hugo Chavez of being "in on" tampering with the election.  I guess she didn't hear that Chavez died THREE YEARS BEFORE THE 2016 ELECTION.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.21  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @4.2.11    4 years ago

Trump lost Georgia more times than the Confederacy.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.22  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.13    4 years ago

As far as I know these were state charges but I could be wrong...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.23  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.7    4 years ago
"the left could not win so they tried to steal it just like they do in venezuela."

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The projection is strong amongst the tRumpturd supporters.

You were one of the ones who predicted a tRumpturd landslide.

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Trout Giggles
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4.2.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.22    4 years ago

Oh...well! That's a horse of a different color. So color my horse stoopid lol

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.23    4 years ago

He did, didn't he??!!!!!

Oh...that might be construed as taunting.....

 
 
 
Ender
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4.2.26  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.23    4 years ago

That is exactly what it is, projection. They cannot accept the results so they are actively trying to change them by any means necessary. 

There is no way he could have lost, look at all the people at his rally's, look at all the votes he got, no way someone could have gotten more, etc.

They are actually trying to get the states to select electors that will go against the will of the people yet it is the Democrats that are trying to steal the election?

It is really kinda sad that they cannot hear how they really sound.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.27  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @4.2.21    4 years ago

When are people going to realize that all 6 contested  states are considered to be controlled by Republicans?

PA has a Dem Governor and both houses are controlled by the GOP.

GA has a GOP governor and both houses are controlled by the GOP.

MI  has a DEM Governor and both houses are controlled by the GOP.

AZ has a GOP governor and both houses are controlled by the GOP.

MN has a DEM Governor and both houses are controlled by the GOP.

WI has a GOP governor and both houses are controlled by the GOP.

So can someone intelligently explain to me

how the GOP governments of these states "stole the election' for the opposition?

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.28  Kavika   replied to  Ender @4.2.26    4 years ago
look at all the people at his rally's,

Most of them forgot to vote they were way too busy dancing to ''YMCA''...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.29  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.27    4 years ago

If I still lived in PA I would consider switching back to an R, just because of the integrity they have shown,

but then I realize that this kind of integrity isn't rare, it is normal.  It is the way it has been for many many decades.

Except during this Administration.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.30  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @4.2.27    4 years ago
So can someone intelligently explain to me

That would be a bridge too far for many Trump followers.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.31  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.27    4 years ago

I don't think even WATSON can answer that

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.32  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @4.2.30    4 years ago

I sets them up

so's other can knock'em down

384

 
 
 
Ender
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4.2.33  Ender  replied to  Kavika @4.2.28    4 years ago

Or singing 'Macho Man' not realizing it is a gay anthem.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.34  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.9    4 years ago
"see ya back here tomorrow night after 5pm"

Will be quite happy to prove you wrong, AGAIN!

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.35  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.3    4 years ago

OOOO, a conspiracy. 

I'd ask you for evidence but since neither the Texas filing or the multiple Amicus briefs claim that anyone 'rigged' ANYTHING, or conspired on ANYTHING, I shutter to think of where you would pull it out of. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.36  Split Personality  replied to  Dulay @4.2.35    4 years ago

Well, it's past the 3PM EST deadline for the 4 states to submit their replies to SCOTUS.

Tick, tock.

We should not have to wait too long for a decision.

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.37  Dulay  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.36    4 years ago

Well here is the title of ONE of the applications filled today:

MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE AND BRIEF FOR THE
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AND THE STATES AND TERRITORIES OF
CALIFORNIA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM, HAWAII,
ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA,
NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA,
OREGON, RHODE ISLAND, VERMONT, VIRGINIA, U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS,
AND WASHINGTON AS AMICI CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS
AND IN OPPOSITION TO PLAINTIFF’S MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE A
BILL OF COMPLAINT

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.38  Dulay  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.36    4 years ago

All of the states [defendants] have met the deadline. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.39  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2    4 years ago
This should be over by 5PM EST tomorrow.

well, maybe tomorrow?  LOL

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.40  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dulay @4.2.35    4 years ago
'rigged' ANYTHING, or conspired on ANYTHING

that is the best part of this case, none of that matters

all texas has to prove is those 4 states ignored / did not follow their own election laws. and game over.  resulting in four birds hit with one stone

and technically, not following election laws?   that is cheating by every definition.

 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.41  TᵢG  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.40    4 years ago

What do you think will happen if all four states are found to have violated their election laws in some way?

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.42  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.41    4 years ago
What do you think will happen if  

I'm just gonna go with....  "all hell will break loose"   LOL  as long as they follow the law let the chips fall where they may.

for more details, we both will have to wait on scotus to provide the remedy.

thank god acb got seated on the court as a 4-4 decision by the court here would be no fun.   

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.43  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.39    4 years ago

Never promised you anything.

Must take more than two hours for SCOTUS to wade through 1 lawsuit by 17 GOP states against 4 of their brethren GOP states;

The 4 individual state's briefs reguested & delivered

and the Amica Curea by 20 other states & territories that joined the 4 "bad" GOP states.

Fascinating.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.44  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.42    4 years ago
thank god acb got seated on the court as a 4-4 decision by the court here would be no fun.

Meaningless if she is impartial about the law and since there are no religious overtones to this case,

her decision should be predictable.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.45  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.43    4 years ago
1 lawsuit by 17 GOP states against 4 of their brethren GOP states;

4 birds with one stone. and now it is 20 states... maybe more?

the left should have cheated in blue states, cheating in red states is going to bite the left in the ass when new electors are chosen. (if scotus goes that route, trump for the win.)

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.2.46  Thomas  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.42    4 years ago

Which makes 9-0 denial much better.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.47  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Thomas @4.2.46    4 years ago
Which makes 9-0 denial much better.

LOL   yeah, heard that one before...  have fun :)

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.48  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.44    4 years ago
her decision should be predictable.

yepp, and her being seated makes roberts bs irrelevant.

so, I expect 5-4  or better. 

as kagan shows some sense now and again...  maybe 6-3

good fun :)

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.49  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.40    4 years ago
that is the best part of this case, none of that matters

YOU sure as hell thought it mattered yesterday when you said:

ignoring a state's election laws to rig a presidential election is very fraudulent and directly impacts all states.

What's changed? 

all texas has to prove is those 4 states ignored / did not follow their own election laws. and game over.  resulting in four birds hit with one stone

WRONG. What Texas has to do is prove that they have STANDING to argue to the court in the first place. They have to prove that Texas was harmed by 'those 4 states'. 

If you had READ the filing, you would recognize that Texas' AG's argument is laughable. 

and technically, not following election laws?   that is cheating by every definition.

Which has been litigated ad nauseam in multiple venues, including in 'those 4 states' and in EVERY case the 'plaintiffs' have been laughed out of court. 

It much like all too many of those here that just keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again. It was bullshit then and it's still bullshit now. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.50  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dulay @4.2.49    4 years ago
What's changed? 

   im not sure.... LOL

what I implied was texas does not have to prove anything was "rigged or conspired" per your post.

all texas has to prove is those states ignored/ did not follow election laws and game over.

how hard ya think it will be to prove those states did not follow their own election laws?

I'm going with "very easy to prove"     what do you think?

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.2.51  Thomas  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.47    4 years ago

Victory is sweet, is it not?

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.52  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Thomas @4.2.51    4 years ago

joe biden should demand this case be heard to prove he won legally or resign now for the good of the country.

joe won't do either...  joe knows he did not win fairly.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.2.53  Thomas  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.52    4 years ago

All that I hear is you whistling past the graveyard.

The majority of Americans know that Joe did in fact win the election and by millions of legally cast and rigorously counted votes.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.54  seeder  JBB  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.52    4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.55  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.50    4 years ago
what I implied was texas does not have to prove anything was "rigged or conspired" per your post.

But you claimed that their reason to ignore the law was to rig a presidential election. That wasn't ME, that was YOU. So what happened to your conspiracy theory 8? 

how hard ya think it will be to prove those states did not follow their own election laws? I'm going with "very easy to prove"     what do you think?

I don't have to 'think' about it 8, all I need do is review the plethora of cases wherein Trump and his sycophants have tried and FAILED to do just that. 

So if as you say, it's 'very easy to prove', even with MONTHS to prepare, Trump's lawyers have proven to be epically incompetent. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.56  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dulay @4.2.55    4 years ago
But you claimed that their reason to ignore the law was to rig a presidential election

yes that is MY claim.  but fun fact:  texas does not have to prove MY claim in court, only that those states did not follow their election laws.

even with MONTHS to prepare, Trump's lawyers have proven to be epically incompetent. 

hey, guess what...  this has nothing to do with trump's lawyers... LOL

texas brought this case to the court and now has 20 states backing it. 

 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.57  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Thomas @4.2.53    4 years ago
The majority of Americans know that Joe did in fact win the election and by millions of legally cast and rigorously counted votes.

complete bs on all counts.

have a great night :)

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.58  TᵢG  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.52    4 years ago
joe won't do either...  joe knows he did not win fairly.

I know you like to make outrageous statements for fun, but it seems to me that you actually believe that Trump is the legitimate winner of the presidential race this year.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.59  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.56    4 years ago
texas brought this case to the court and now has 20 states backing it. 

and at least 24 opposing it along with DC, Guam and the USVI.

States rights is all about States doing what they want within the federal framework.

States rights have prevailed 52 times so far, but don't worry

Pat Robertson has guaranteed a miracle from God to keep Trump in the presdency.

Good luck.

Pat Robertson Says God Will 'Intervene' in Favor of Texas SCOTUS Lawsuit (msn.com)

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.60  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.56    4 years ago
yes that is MY claim.  but fun fact:  texas does not have to prove MY claim in court,

Nope, YOU are the one that has to prove YOUR claim HERE. Please proceed. 

only that those states did not follow their election laws.

Again, WRONG. 

hey, guess what...  this has nothing to do with trump's lawyers... LOL texas brought this case to the court and now has 20 states backing it. 

Trump's lawyers 'intervened'.

Oh and only 17 states backed up Paxton and Trump. 

DO try to keep up. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.61  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dulay @4.2.60    4 years ago
only 17 states backed up Paxton and Trump.  DO try to keep up.

my bad, try 18 for the win?  LOL

www.google.com/search?q=18+states+back+texas+lawsuit

Nope, YOU are the one that has to prove YOUR claim HERE. Please proceed.

all I have to do is sit here and watch the show.... ya having fun yet?

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.2.62  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.59    4 years ago
States rights is all about States doing what they want within the federal framework.

the federal framework does not allow states to ignore duly legislated election laws.  period.

states had months before the election to change their election laws "legally...   not going thru their states legislatures to make changes to their election laws is going to bite them in the ass.

but anyway....    nothing left to talk about on this subject until the supreme courts sets a date to hear the case. and they will.   c-ya again then.

cheers :)

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.63  TᵢG  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.62    4 years ago

I know you like to make outrageous statements for fun, but it seems to me that you actually believe that Trump is the legitimate winner of the presidential race this year.

Do you believe Trump legitimately won?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.64  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.57    4 years ago
"complete bs on all counts."

Joe Biden got more than 7 million votes than trump(deleted).  trump( deleted ) is such a pathetic loser whiny little bitch.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.65  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.52    4 years ago
"joe biden should demand this case be heard to prove he won legally or resign now for the good of the country."

You're always good for a laugh.  One who said trump would win by a landslide.  

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Split Personality
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4.2.66  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.62    4 years ago
states had months before the election to change their election laws "legally... 

They did, please prove otherwise.

 not going thru their states legislatures to make changes to their election laws is going to bite them in the ass

Aside from rumor and innuendo, feel free to prove that they did not do so, what the first 52 lawsuits could not.

Please remember that these 4 states are GOP controlled and have each been to their own Supreme Courts to hash this about multiple times and still certified for a Biden win.

Seems that any civil war must be within the GOP.

nothing left to talk about on this subject

Well if you had been correct about the Trump landslide victory, we wouldn't need to talk about anything.

until the supreme courts sets a date to hear the case. and they will.   c-ya again then.

from here it just seems like you have a bad case of 'surfer's ear' and aren't listening.

Cheers to you as well SU, jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.67  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.61    4 years ago
my bad, try 18 for the win?  LOL

Only if you count Texas TWICE. 

all I have to do is sit here and watch the show.... ya having fun yet?

As long as you just want to post BS and snark and have no desire to be included in adult conversation, carry on...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2.68  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.58    4 years ago

  joe knows he did not win fairly.

Banana Oil!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.2.69  Kavika   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.2.68    4 years ago

Is Banana Oil related to Bull Shit? jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
4.2.70  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.65    4 years ago

Biden has nothing to prove.  He won by a landslide.  This is what Trump said in 2016 because of his EC votes.  Biden got the same, so it was also a landslide.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.2.71  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @4.2.59    4 years ago

Pat was committed right after that statement.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.72  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.62    4 years ago
but anyway....    nothing left to talk about on this subject

Well, you are right for the millionth time..."nothing left to talk about on this subject"

until the supreme courts sets a date to hear the case. and they will.   c-ya again then.

And wrong as hell again, as usual.

SCOTUS just tossed the suit for "No Standing", as I said they would yesterday.

Supreme Court rejects Texas' effort to overturn election in fatal blow to Trump legal blitz to stop Biden

The court's ruling was essentially a unanimous rejection of the Texas claims.

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.2.73  Dulay  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.2.62    4 years ago

So NOW that 3 cogent members of NT and the SCOTUS have told you that Texas has to prove they have standing, do you believe it? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2.74  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @4.2.69    4 years ago

It is a word Babe Ruth used when around kids.  He did not like cussing around kids so when he needed to say bs, he would use banana oil in lieu of.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.2.75  Kavika   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.2.74    4 years ago

I never knew that...Banana oil it is.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
4.2.76  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @4.2.75    4 years ago

Same.  You learn something new every day.

 
 
 
JBB
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7  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

512 512

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8  Gordy327    4 years ago

What Trump is basically saying is that your vote doesn't or shouldn't count if it's for Biden. He is beyond delusional, as are those who think the election results could be changed in a significant enough way at this stage to ensure a victory for Trump. It's just not going to happen!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.1  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @8    4 years ago

I doubt that Trump thinks he can reverse this election (which would indeed be stealing it).   This is just his ego being unable to accept defeat.   I am sure he cannot face the notion that, like John McCain, he lost ... and he does not like losers.  

Those who are supporting him are the enigma.   What is in this for Giuliani;  a long term legal relationship with Trump at the expense of all of his credibility?   What is up with Ted Cruz?    Someone pay him off?   Why would he want to have this idiocy on his record showing to the world that he has become a sycophant of con-man Trump?

Finally we have the everyday people who simply believe whatever Trump claims.   Is it possible that they cannot comprehend that Trump is simply using them to ease his bruised ego?    Are they truly that unaware of what is going on?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
8.1.1  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    4 years ago
What is in this for Giuliani; 

Giuliani was working for $20K a day for Trump. Give me $20K a day and I'll say any batshit insane thing you want me to. LOL!

What is up with Ted Cruz? 

He's another attention whore with the same electorate base as Trump.

 
 
 
Thomas
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8.1.2  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    4 years ago

What is up with Ted Cruz? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.1.3  Kavika   replied to  TᵢG @8.1    4 years ago
What is up with Ted Cruz? 

A good question, Trump said Ted's wife was ugly and his father murdered JFK and now Trump wants Ted to represent the states in arguing before SCOTUS. 

I do believe there are some deep-seated problems with these two. Ummm, they couldn't be too deep-seated since there are both pretty shallow humans. 

Or Ted could be having an identity crisis. Not only who am I but what country do I belong to.

512

 
 
 
Ender
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8.1.4  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    4 years ago

Just look at some of the memes that follow after this comment...

Some believe there was actually widespread fraud and that somehow mail in ballots automatically double the vote count, or something.

I say they worship donald because he is what they really want to be but feel restrained.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    4 years ago

I tend to think his entire presidency was one big ego stroking for Trump. He couldn't handle criticism or the challenges of being President. Now he can't handle a defeat in the election. As far as other politicians supporting him go, I'll bet there's some benefit in there for them. That's the most likely explanation for their continued support. Where everyday people are concerned, one can only wonder about their intellect or mental state.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @8.1.4    4 years ago
Just look at some of the memes that follow after this comment...

both of them are stoopid

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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8.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    4 years ago

at the expense of all of his credibility

He didn't have any before Trump.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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8.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  evilone @8.1.1    4 years ago

Hell, for 20 grand a day I would even wash and wax (two coats) the giver's car.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9  Just Jim NC TttH    4 years ago

Mail in................hmmmmmmmm great idea....

256

 
 
 
Sunshine
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10  Sunshine    4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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10.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sunshine @10    4 years ago

I installed Dominion software on my facebook page and POOF............I suddenly had 75 million followers

 
 
 
JBB
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10.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sunshine @10    4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Dulay
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10.2.1  Dulay  replied to  JBB @10.2    4 years ago

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Split Personality
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10.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  JBB @10.2    4 years ago

Good times, let the good times roll...

512

 
 
 
pat wilson
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10.2.3  pat wilson  replied to  Split Personality @10.2.2    4 years ago

Laissez les bons temps rouler

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11  Tessylo    4 years ago

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Kavika
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12  Kavika     4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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12.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @12    4 years ago

Each bottle comes with a discount certificate for McD's.

 
 
 
freepress
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13  freepress    4 years ago

The "states rights" Tea Party crowd is sure silent on this one. So are all the Republicans that said the ballot box is how you make change while they vote against all aid to working Americans solely as means to obstruction of their corporate agenda.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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13.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  freepress @13    4 years ago
The "states rights" Tea Party crowd is sure silent on this one.

because the states do not have the right to ignore election laws.

that is a fairly easy notion to grasp no?


btw, love the attempted spin - you do good work. LOL :)

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
13.1.1  Kavika   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @13.1    4 years ago

You might want to try something other than predicting elections or SCOTUS decisions. 

Trump the Loser lost once again. 

SCOTUS DECIDES AGAINST TEXAS AND TRUMP,  9 to 0.

Actually, they didn't even let Texas file the case...LMAO

Trump leaving the stage with his tail between his legs.

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The 18 state AG's and 126 house republicans really look like what they are...ASSHOLES

 
 

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