Be Honest, did you ever think we would see this in America?
Our country has become so jaded and disconnected from reality that we stand back in almost complete apathy and indifference as the sitting president of the United States plots open abuse of power in order to nullify an election he plainly lost. This is purely the stuff of Hollywood movies that depicted political paranoia and the overthrow of the government, yet it is real.
Trump and Powell met in the Oval Office Friday night , ABC News has confirmed, and were joined by Trump's former national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who has been publicly prodding Trump to take unprecedented steps to seize a second term -- including declaring martial law and ordering the military to oversee new elections in the battleground states that Trump lost.
"[Trump] could take military capabilities and he could place them in those states and basically rerun an election in each of those states, " Flynn said earlier this week on the conservative news outlet Newsmax.
President Trump AGREED with these ideas, according to published reports, and had to be walked back from them by other aides at the meeting who objected to using the military in order to try and keep Trump in office past Jan 20.
He is dissuaded, for now, but who knows what the next week will bring? Right wing media, including shows which Trump personally watches, continue to claim that he won the election but had it stolen from him by voting machines and vote counting software made in and controlled from communist and socialist countries.
This isnt just offensive, it's nuts. It is a plot from an HBO or Netflix miniseries.
Why is the rest of our government standing idly by and pretending there is anything about this that is normal or acceptable?
Right wing media is floating the idea that Chief Justice John Roberts was shouting at the conservative justices before the SC rejected a pro Trump election lawsuit, with Roberts saying that the Court had to turn down Trump's efforts because if they didn't there would be riots in the streets.
Although I don't believe that ever happened at the Supreme Court, I'm sure there would be "riots" if Trump was somehow able to successfully overturn the will of the people and actually claim a right to stay in office. Riots might be a polite term for it.
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The Republican and Democratic leadership of Congress should issue a joint statement and have a press conference to denounce this traitorous behavior by our president.
sure, let's hang him now because of what someone said happened.
no need for trial, you have already convicted him!
but then, what to complain about?
Me too. One of the best people on Fox (perhaps best on all stations).
But-- I still watch him daily, He's in MSNBC 7 PM EST. (He was 3 hrs earlier when he was on Fox).
(And interestingly, he didn't change much when going from Fox to MSNBC-- he's still one of the most unbiased newscasters around now-a-days).
How about Forbes?
Do you also consider that to be a Socialist, anti-Free Enterprise source?
(Perhaps you've never heard of Forbes...and I should look for a less "obscure", better known media outlet????).
Well, you could always resurrect Benghazi!
Or...how about that Birther Conspiracy nonsense?
Hillary's emails?
Or perhaps keep it simple-- just keep repeating the accusation that Joe Biden is a member of the so-called "Deep-State" (LOL!)-- and that he's an extremist, to the far-Left of the Democratic Party!
Calling anything you disagree with "Fake News"-- that's a definite "Oldie But Goodie" that never ceases to Amuse and Delight"! (Providing countless hours of hours of entertainment for the Mentally-Challenged) ....
(So, in answer to your question-- which is your personal favourite?)
I sure wish the fuck you could follow the conversation.
No proof of this, just the usual unnamed sources "familiar with the situation" alleged to have said.
ABC News, The New York Times and Politico all reported this story. It happened.
yeah, and they all also pushed the Trump/Russia collusion bit, too, before old Mueller couldn't prove any of it for them
Repeating that lie doesn't make it true.
Mueller documented a plethora of collusion.
This unnamed source sez that the KC Chiefs are now 13 and 1. GO CHIEFS!!!
And yet, with all this so-called "proof" Mueller allegedly found, Democrats didn't impeach Trump for it.
Mainly because it never happened.
But if you wish to live in La La Land, so be it!
wrong asz usual. They knew they had no Republicans on board, and the evidence was so immense and complicated the average Texan, and or American, couldn't follow or comprehend, which is one hell of a way of stating there wasn't enough proof, but hey, if you can't refute the truth, just Lie some more
I'd explain it to you but it requires parsing words via legal definitions and I know how you hate that.
Oh it happened. It's documented in Mueller's report AND the Republican Senate report.
Never liked LA. San Diego is beautiful though...
You know, what you just wrote MAY have made some sense IF Democrats didn't impeach Trump on other charges.
And I am sorry if you didn't understand what the Democrats did.
That isn't my problem.
Like you could. And I do hate it when some pick and choose what they want parsed.
Please stop posting that shit to me.
La La Land is more a state of mind. Delusional minds.
Trump says the recent Cyber-Attacks definitely came from China-- refused to blame Russia. Pompeo says his reliiable sources say it wwwas Russia/
Why does Trump always defend Russia?
(HI don't think he's ever criticized Putin).
Why?
FFS, it wasn't a trial the public decided the outcome of.
All Democrats had to do was convince a small handful of Senators, and they failed.
Learn to accept it and learn to deal with it.
Why, when you have no counter-argument, do you deflect?
Was anyone in this thread talking about that besides you?
Master deflector!
Bust day at work today, didn't get to turning on the news 'till this evening.
First up: Lou Dobbs (who I assume you believe is "Fake News"-- obviously a Socialist member of the so-called "Deep State", eh?).
His lead story-- the Cyber-Attack. He said it came from Russia (but at the risk of really pissing off our Lunatic-in-Chief, he said possible others, China, Iran, maybe others).
Why blamwe Russia__ could Lou Dobbs also ber a member of the sao-called "Deep-State"...is Lou Dobbs a Socialit spy-- perhaps even a Communist sympathizer? A "Trump Hater"?
Yup-- that's Lou Dobbs and his "TDS"!!!
and the public's perception and beliefs, have NEVER influenced politicians, now has it...
So I guess all that "proof" was just a lot of bullshit that many saw through.
Oh, well.
Looks like you are losing your argument with yourself.
Easily.
Then why continue to do it?
Nope. Your aversion to facts is not my problem.
Sounds like you know it well.
R-i-g-h-t.
I keep forgetting you are an esteemed internet lawyer.
I do, from seeing what is posted here daily.
There can't really be another logical explanation for the Trump obsession folks!
Rather than just diss it with kneejerk bullshit, I actually READ and understood the Mueller report and the Republican Senate report and I am able to articulate it's content to some extent. I suppose to someone like you, who can't be bothered with facts yet overflows with unfounded opinions, that investment of my time makes me an 'esteemed internet lawyer'. For others, I'm someone that actually takes some time to become cogent about the topics I post about.
Much of it by you and yours.
That illustrates lax analysis.
Well, of course you did!
I would expect nothing less from an esteemed internet lawyer!
So don't read my posts then. And who the fuck is "mine"???
It isn't necessary to overthink everything, as it serves no purpose.
And as a matter of actual fact-- not only a "plethora"-- but also a tremendous amount!
His public statements inspire zero confidence.
Next we will hear from the Trumpsters on Newstalkers that Trump is living rent free in all the liberal heads. That all this is a "joke".
No the joke is Trump and those who still follow him.
truth is truth. especially for people obsessed with Trump
You don't have to comment if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.
never stopped you!
so glad youve finally seen the light.
Oh, I saw the light long ago when it comes to people who do nothing but bitch, moan, and whine 24/7/365 about Trump.
Who in hell wouldn't?
Well, at least you wouldn't fall into that category ("Obsessed with Trump")...thank goodness for that!
Yep.
In fact you might almost say:
It is what it is!
Eh?
Well, at least that makes ONE of us not obsessed with him!
Damn straight, Skippy!
There's lots of them.
But someday when you have a moment, I like you to introdice me to some of those people who "Do nothing but whine about Trump 24/7!"
24hrs/day-- they have Superpowers!
Do nothing but whine... nerver sleep, never eat...no need to use the "facilites".
I'd love to meet them!!!!
Actually, many of us have always suspected you haveyour veryown, personal, "Special Friends"///
Fascinating!
(Couldn't be earthlings...by any chance are these "Special Friends" who keep talking (whining) to you.. are the Alines from another planet? (Which might account for their special "Super-Powers"?
And how did you get to meet these incredible beings? Where does one go to meet "Special Friends" like yours?
They are looking for a leader--you applying?
Link?
Ask and ye shall receive!
You and Obama?
Nope!
Try again!
Yes, but they must follow established and Uber-Politically-Correct Protocols! Before they get to any specifics, they must casually toss around a few "TDS" and "Fake News" exclamations. A few before, one of two during perhaps (just to add a little colour) and a few at the end.... just to keep it being yet another case of Deja-Vu All Over Again!
(Yes-- originality is not one of their strong suits)
Excellent observation !
President Donald Trump had cut attorney Sidney Powell from his legal team after she launched multiple lawsuits aimed at overturning the 2020 election -- all failures -- but Trump has now welcomed the conspiracy-minded flamethrower back into the White House to plot out further efforts to extend his presidency.
Trump and Powell met in the Oval Office Friday night, ABC News has confirmed, and were joined by Trump's former national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who has been publicly prodding Trump to take unprecedented steps to seize a second term -- including declaring martial law and ordering the military to oversee new elections in the battleground states that Trump lost.
"[Trump] could take military capabilities and he could place them in those states and basically rerun an election in each of those states," Flynn said earlier this week on the conservative news outlet Newsmax.
"President Trump's continued attempts to overturn the results of the election have done immeasurable damage to the stability of our democracy and to the American people's faith in it," Bookbinder said. "The president welcoming Michael Flynn to the White House right after Flynn suggested Trump impose martial law to overturn the election by force takes the threat to a new level."
Critics contend that Powell's return could usher in a dark final chapter to the Trump presidency, and the prospect has prompted pointed objections from several of Trump's most trusted advisers -- including his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, who has otherwise endorsed a scorched-earth effort to contest the elections.
And Powell's re-emergence in Trump's corner comes at a precarious time for her own career, as many of the targets of her drive to overturn the election have begun to push back. Last week, Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado voting machine company that fringe pro-Trump forces have targeted with dark conspiracy theories of a rigged election, threatened Powell with legal action if she didn't retract what it called the "wild, knowingly baseless, and false" allegations she has made against them.
Nevertheless, Trump invited Powell to consider the possibility that she be appointed a special counsel and be given high-level security clearances to investigate the 2020 election. The meeting was highly contentious, sources told ABC News, filled with screaming and demands from Powell, who called other Trump aids "quitters" for giving up the fight.
The meeting ended with White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone and other Trump attorneys talking the president out of making the offer, the sources said. Giuliani, who joined the meeting by phone, also opposed the idea, according to sources.
Powell did not immediately respond to ABC News' request for comment.
Powell's allure to Trump appears to be her willingness to explore debunked, stem-winding conspiracy theories suggesting that foreign actors plotted with an American deep state to rig election machines for former Vice President Joe Biden. During Friday's meeting, a source said, the assembled group pondered an executive order to seize and examine voting machines across the country.
That idea had initially been raised by Giuliani earlier in the week, but was quickly shot down by Cipollone and Meadows. When Powell raised it Friday night, the two dismissed it again.
"I don't even know how that would work," U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) Commissioner Ben Hovland told ABC News. "The voting machines are owned by the local jurisdictions in most cases; those are state and local property, so I don't even know how that makes sense."
Over the past year, Powell has built a reputation for reaching beyond what other attorneys would consider. She took on Flynn's defense after the former national security adviser had pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents and been upbraided in court by a federal judge. Powell forged a new strategy: recant his plea and place the blame for his legal troubles on his prior defense lawyer and the FBI. The tactics were roundly criticized, but ended with the Justice Department withdrawing charges and Trump issuing Flynn a full pardon.
Powell has also been among the most vocal of Trump's advisers to promote the idea that his 2020 election defeat by more than 7 million votes was actually a mirage, the result of an array of forces had plotted the steal the election from him. A series of scathing court rulings rejected those claims , as did experts on voting technology.
Perhaps Powel has "special powers"-- can function 24/hrs a day, just whining, without eating or sleeping-- much like the "Special Friends" that "do nothing but whine 24/7? (See my comments #s 2. 1. 9 and 2. 1. 10, above for more information.. including an actual un-retouched photo!)
In short, Powell is full of shit and a charlatan.
That happened last week, try to keep up.
When counting the electoral college, it sure as hell DOES matter.
I’m a little surprised that Trump hasn’t started promoting the flat earth conspiracy yet. It’s gotta be right around the corner.
Is there money or power in it for him?
Yes.
not as surprised as I am that some whack job hasn't already claimed he has!
Trump is no mere whack job-- he's well beyond that!
The poor dear is suffering greatly-- he is severely mentally ill!
I see you are doing your usual stellar job of understanding what you just read.
/s
It’s gotta be right around the corner
There are no more corners-- Trump fired them all!
A crazy big number of Americans are all in on Q...
I see their comments everywhere on the internet!
Ridiculous people hyperbolically ranting nonsense.
America has been typified by "reality TV" for a long time. The boundaries are fuzzy.
we need a shave
Anyone remember the old Burma Shave signs?
Here's a series I still remember:
Angels that guard you
When you Drive
Usually Retire
At 65.
BURMA-SHAVE
I do remember driving across country with my family in the 50s... Saw lots of signs like those, but I think there were also other things besides Burma Shave advertised...
I was such a chatterbox, my sisters would pay me to stay quiet... :o}
There were lots of ads.
But they were often larger single signs. Although there might have been others in the fiormat, Burma shave was the only one I remember where the way they did it was always the same. Instead of one large sign, there were always 5 small ones, spaced apart. Each of the first four was a line to a 4 line poem-- the lastone always said,mere;y, one word: "Burma-Shave"/
Here's another I still remember;
Feel like a Noble,
Not a knave,
Caesar uses
BURMA-SHAVE.
(i just realized,thats 4 signs not 5...unless I remeber it incorrectly,,,was a while back
"Ever watch "Jersey Shore"? Or any of the "The Real Housewives s of ___________"?
When I first came across those I was amazed-- such nonsense!
Then I realized-- those shows are accurate portrayals of real segments of American society!!!.
There is not a 'Big Brother', but there is a Big Corporate.
Supply Side concentrated the wealth into the hands of the already wealthy, making that wealth lazy. Citizens United uses the lazy wealth to consolidate the power.
And finally, Reagan's abolishment of The Fairness Doctrine culminated into the real purpose of Supply Side all along.
As far a the 'Q', the enemies of democracy demand it exists.
Meanwhile, Trump has filed another case with SCOTUS, it's PA again.
If SCOTUS takes the case perhaps Sidney Q. Powell could argue for Team Trump.
Let's hope so-- that would be great!
Did You Ever Think We Would See This In America?
In a word... NO!
After he won, I was dumbfounded... It has only gotten worse...
With only 31 days left, I fear we have yet to see the worst... I sincerely hope I'm wrong!!!
Sadly, the 74 million people who voted for him are not going anywhere after January 20th...
Well, since a disprortionate number of Trump-worshippers follows his example, not wearing masks, not social distancing (In general not taking the Virus too seriously)-- in all probability a large percentage of them will catch Covid-19.
And therefore some will no longer be with us here on the earth plane.
(I'm not saying they fell off the edge of the flat Earth, but rather, sadly, many will have passed away from the Virus
Darwin's Law exemplified.
Sadly, the 74 million people who voted for him are not going anywhere after January 20th...
True that....
and verily I say unto you, they will be fruitful and multiply in great numbers and live long and prosper.
Maybe they forgot these little gems..
#notmypresident
viva la resistance
It's gonna be a helluva 4 years for Hidin Biden and heels up Harris
Well, just as long as Biden lasts and heels pushes him out of the way.
Probably for trump as well-- although I imaginemhe will still have some MAGA fanatics who bring him food and other gifts when he's serving his time in the "Big House".
Well, Mara Largo is a BIG house, but I don't think many people will be able to get close to him...but hey, good to see you looking out for him and his health.
Trump's private quarters are only about 3000 sq. ft.
they will be fruitful and multiply in great numbers and live long and prosper.
Why?
Because they refuse to wear masks, social distance. Go to large indoor Trump rallies where they sit close to each other-- literally in contact?
Well, maybe you're right.
Perhaps we should all pray that Trump supporters never give in to Socialist Ideology-- and that they stay proud to exhibit this by absolutely refusing to ever wear masks, wash hands frequently, etc.
That would certainly be a good thing if they did that, eh?
Of course there's another aspect to that.
More and more (especially in light of the recent rapid rise in his craziness-- more and Republican are changing their opinion of him. many are even starting to have a very negative opinion of him-- and for good reason!