The People Of Georgia, On Behalf Of America , Deliver A Tremendous Rebuke To Donald Trump
In the end, both Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff will have received higher winning margins in Georgia than Joe Biden did. I wonder if Donald Trump appreciates just how much that means to his bogus claims about his own race against Biden in Georgia, and elsewhere.
Trump has been claiming , including very recently, that he won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes. The results from yesterday make that a highly dubious claim, to say the least, lol. If Trump had actually won , Loeffler and Perdue would have won ..... or are we now going to hear that the Democrats simply repeated the steal, even with the world watching ever more closely this time?
No folks, the senate elections in Georgia have once again demonstrated the olympian level buffoonery of President* Trump. I know he thinks he got what he wanted, the humiliation of the republican leadership in Georgia, but he is the only one who sees it that way. Republican leadership in Georgia is openly blaming Trump for their debacle yesterday. Adding insult to injury, the county where Trump held his rally Monday night had a lower voter turnout this time , after Trump urged them to get out and vote for Perdue and Loeffler , than it had two months ago. Republican turnout in rural areas in Georgia was less than expected, which would seem to signal that some of them had washed their hands of the whole circus in that state.
Or maybe it was Mitch McConnell's opposition to the 2000 dollar stimulus checks that doomed the Republicans in the Georgia senate races. That is what some pundits are saying today. Now there is considerable speculation that the Democrats will use the reconciliation method to add the 2000 dollar sum to the covid relief package. Using the reconciliation method the threshold for passage is just a majority in the Senate , and not the 60 vote filibuster proof total required for normal legislation in that chamber.
Many of us wanted more from the November election even though Biden would be president. We wanted a clear rebuke of Donald Trump. While today's result is not near as good as a landslide defeat of Trump and a 3 or 4 seat advantage in the senate would have been , it is enough to signal a brighter future for the country for now. Hopefully the Trump-induced Republican debacle in Georgia will make him less prominent on the political stage of the next few years.
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wow, Biden will be able to hopefully right a lot of what Trump has wrought...
With both the House and the Senate under Democratic control, Biden will be able to push through healthcare reform.
However, I imagine he will face filibuster after filibuster since that's the only weapon the Senate Republicans have left to wield to stagnate progress and the righting of Trump's wrongs.
Time to eliminate the filibuster.
Sure. Rule changes like that certainly worked out for the Democrats when it came to judicial appointments, right?
Yes it did. It was the only thing that let Obama get any judges past the Senate.
Not true at all.
Very True.
Mitch first used the abuse of the filibusterer as a way to screw the American voters, keeping them from getting Obama appointed judges & other types of appointees President Obama wanted in place.
Of course, once Mitch became Senate Majority leader, he just blocked the Senate from doing their Constitutional duty of giving or withholding their consent as part of his long term plan to gut the court system until such time when he would be able to cram judges of HIS own choosing into all of the openings he had stolen from the majority of voters that had put President Obama in place to fell them.
Harry Reid says 82 presidential nominees have been blocked under President Barack Obama, 86 blocked under all other presidents
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3 Charts Explain Why Democrats Went Nuclear on the Filibuster
First off, try reading the discussion. Obama, contra the false statement, had plenty of judges confirmed while McConnell was the minority leader, not "zero"
here's a long list just from 2011-2012:
Second, 82 nominees weren't blocked from their positions. If you actually looked into it, you'd see almost all of these supposedly blocked nominations were confirmed, some unanimously. Reid took advantage of your ignorance to manipulate you into believing a false fact by equating a call for cloture with blocking. They aren't the same thing, at all. This has been pointed out before, but it doesn't seem to do any good. You can lead a horse to water....
In fact, by that standard, Donald Trump had more nominees "blocked" than all Presidents combined.
Define "plenty of", without it being your "opinion".
I say it's high time we had Bernie Sanders as the new majority leader. Woot.
There's an opportunity. No certainty
Obama had the same one... but threw it away, with futile calls for collaboration across the aisle. He ended up with... nothing. Pelosi saved his Presidency, getting the ACA passed.
Let's hope Biden has learned the lesson. He must slam through his program... and if some Republicans want to participate, it's up to them to make propositions.
While the official count is not yet complete, it does look to be an interesting next couple of years.
Read an opinion article last night where they put forth the proposition that should the Senate to go a 50-50 split how much power does that give the far-left Progressives? If party-line voting continues to be much of the norm, if the far-left threatens to withhold their votes unless the upcoming bill is progressive enough for them... With the House as close as it is and the Senate in a 50-50 split, I suspect that party politics are going to go crazy trying to rein in members on both sides.
And one other unanswered question from the ACB hearings, can/should the vice-president vote during the advice & consent for judicial nominations? The question was asked as the ACB hearings were started but never really answered. There were some people who put forth that the vice-president is there to cast the vote to break a tie, but others put forth that judicial nominations are not bills being voted on but the Senate providing advice and consent to the President. As far as I know there is not yet a definitive answer to that question.
As I said, I suspect an interesting next couple of years and I'm willing tp predict a really wild 2022 election cycle.
We're certainly headed into uncharted territory. Personally, I'm doubtful.
doubtful about what?
Biden will have an interesting tightrope to walk. He needs to get some Republican participation in his agenda in order to get big items like infrastructure projects through the Senate, but he is also going to need to be on the side of the progressives in many of their causes as well. Black leaders can somewhat justifiably claim that they got Biden elected and got him control of the Senate. The Biden era will be one of compromise, but also one of moving social and economic justice items forward an inch or foot or two. .
The Dems must go ahead with their program. And then name names.
The reality is of course, almost immediately after his inauguration, Obama told Republican house leader Eric Cantor that "elections have consequences" and proceeded to exclude Republicans from stimulus negotiations, setting the tone for his Presidency. He pushed the Republicans aside and made them irrelevant to his first two years in office. Biden will do the same.
And two years from now, they will blame Republicans for Biden's failure.
More lies. . . is that all you got?
Always
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DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
Many liberals on newstalkers must be shocked. They’ve been claiming today’s south is just as racist as it was before the civil rights act. The election of Tim Scott from the birthplace of the confederacy didn’t shake their simple faith in an all pervasive racism. Now the people of Georgia have elected a radical black preacher to the senate from the heart of the south.
How can their ignorant worldview possibly process this? I’m sure they will soldier on in their alternate Reality, where its always the good ole days of 1963 and they are the heroes of their own imagination fighting oppression.
Speaking of ignorant . . .
A lot of republicans blame [tRump deleted] for the loss in Georgia, they should also blame themselves for aligning themselves/supporting this gangster, grifter, thug, thief.. . . . .
The gop lost the House, Senate and Presidency!
That tells us exactly who is so ignorant, the gop.
So, using your rather dubious logic, does that mean you considered Democrats ignorant every time they lost elections?
At least that would be consistent.
I consider the current go to be deranged...
Then why did you say ignorant?
And why won't you answer what I asked?
According to your statement, the GOP is ignorant because they lost elections, and I asked you if you considered Democrats ignorant when they lost elections.
Do you--or is that only something reserved for the GOP--a double standard?
Funny how some folks here on NT think we answer to them!!!!!!!!!!
I'd say that will be stupidest argument I see today, but it's early.
I'd be happy if you just started answering to and acknowledging reality.
That's my goal in life. To make you happy. . . .
I'd be happy if you just started answering to and acknowledging reality.
But then why can't we ask the same of you Sean? Double standards aren't acceptable.
It is never to early to award the "Stupid Comment of the Day" !
Wow Texan, you and Sean are doing your best to change the subject here. Can't find a spin to use?
Wow, Ozzwald, still can't follow along, eh?
Do you also believe that when a party loses elections, that indicates that the party is ignorant?
If so, maybe you can comment and also be in the running!
Nope-- wrong yet again!
tRump and republicans only care about themselves.
I guess it was high time they got a couple of Senators who aren't billionaires.
Looks like Bannon and Trump got their fondest wish, they wanted to burn it all down and unlike Bush they can honestly claim "Mission Accomplished". Well done. Unbelievable that so may Republican voters got conned and grifted like no other group in history.
Well it obvious that, sadly, many of them are really gullible...
(Altoughof course a significant number of them have woken up...which is one of the reasons trump lost the election so badly...)
Republicans challenging election results are ‘grasping for straws’: Delaware state Senator-elect
Challenging the certification process won’t change the outcome of the results; according to the Associated Press , Biden picked up 306 electoral college votes to win the presidency.
“These folks are grasping for straws, they are seeking to appease a dangerous authoritarian wannabe,” Delaware state Senator-elect Sarah McBride told Yahoo Finance. “And fortunately, history will not be kind to these elected officials, and certainly will not be kind to Donald Trump.”
“These attempts by Donald Trump to undermine the will of the American voter, and also to undermine credibility and faith in American democracy, are the last gasps of a despotic authoritarian wannabe who has clearly demonstrated throughout his time in office a complete disregard for the actual well-being of the people,” McBride said.
Trump, she explained, spent his time in office with “an entire focus on enriching himself, his friends, and avoiding humiliation at the ballot box, which is what the American voters delivered back in November for him.”
Current chyron (headline graphic) on CNN -
SOON : TRUMP TO SPEAK TO SUPPORTERS IN DESPERATE COUP ATTEMPT
The protestors, you mean
Way to go GA. You stepped up and did not let L and P get reelected.
I love it!!!!!!!!
Haha.
Well, donald jr said that it is not the republican party anymore, it is the trump party...
Then I had to laugh at an old tweet by Graham...
Hey GA Trumptards, how did that not voting work out for y'all? Thank god some Georgians have the common sense God gave a dog and gave the dems control of both houses. Way to go to those Georgians. You are true GA peaches.