New CDC mask guidelines update where vaccinated Americans need masks

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  45 comments

By:   Jorge L. Ortiz and John Bacon (USA TODAY)

New CDC mask guidelines update where vaccinated Americans need masks
New CDC rules still call for wearing masks in crowded indoor settings such as buses, planes and hospitals. Latest COVID news.

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Fully vaccinated Americans can discard masks and the need for social distancing outdoors and in most indoors settings, the CDC said Thursday in a dramatic announcement after months of mostly cautious measures.

The new guidelines announced by Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, represent a major step toward a return to normalcy for a nation battered and at times divided by a pandemic that has lasted more than a year.

"Anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoor activities, large or small, without wearing a mask or physical distancing,'' Walensky said. "If you are fully vaccinated, you can start doing the things that you had stopped doing because of the pandemic.''

A person is considered fully vaccinated against the coronavirus two weeks after getting the second Pfizer or Moderna shot or the same amount of time after receiving the one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

The new guidance still calls for wearing masks in crowded indoor settings such as buses, planes, hospitals, prisons and homeless shelters but could ease restrictions for reopening workplaces and schools. In addition, the agency will no longer recommend that fully vaccinated people wear masks outdoors in crowds, possibly allowing for bigger capacities at sporting events.

Masks mandates got politicized under former President Donald Trump, who usually eschewed face coverings and mocked those who had them, and they became a source of discord in parts of the country.

The new recommendations from the CDC could also serve as an incentive for the tens of millions of eligible Americans who have not been vaccinated against COVID-19 to get their shots. Though more than 46% of the U.S. population of 330 million has received at least one vaccine dose, polls have shown about 25% don't intend to get inoculated.

Coronavirus cases in the U.S. are at their lowest rate since September and deaths are at their lowest point since April 2020, averaging about 600 a day, but experts still worry that the emergence of variants could disrupt that momentum and create another surge, especially as the virus continues to rage in other parts of the world.

President Joe Biden's administration had been under pressure to loosen pandemic restrictions as more Americans got vaccinated and infections diminished across most of the country, and in a call with six state governors Tuesday he hinted that some changes were coming.

"We have all longed for this moment - when we can get back to some sense of normalcy," Walensky said at a White House briefing Thursday.

Dr. Jay Wolfson, a public health expert at the University of South Florida, said the shift comes after the CDC had lost a great "a great deal of credibility" in the public's perception throughout the pandemic, in part because the agency's guidance was often overly cautious. Often the agency's guidelines on behaviors such as hand-washing and mask wearing lagged behind the "pragmatic realities" of the pandemic, Wolfson said.

Wolfson was skeptical the shift would motivate many people who have not yet gotten vaccinated to do so. He said incentives - Ohio is offering five $1 million prizes - will be a more effective way to persuade people to get the shot.

The shift "recognizes that we've come a long way," in the battle against COVID-19 and it poses little immediate public health risk, Wolfson said, adding that even in a "worst case scenario" where COVID-19 variants were to spread rapidly in the U.S., testing would quickly alert the nation to a problem.

Contributing: Joel Shannon


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

It's official....At long last!

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

Oh darn, the democritter socialist commies will need to devise another plan. But then there's probably another month to go up here ... hope lives on.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1    one month ago

I wonder what happened between yesterday and today to cause such a decision?

Alas, these are the college educated, over-paid morons that we've been listening to. The so called "science."

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    one month ago

They dotted all the 'i's and crossed all the 't's? Shame on them ... @!@ ... but then I'm an underpaid moron who's not hell bent on finding the slightest flaw.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    one month ago

Heaven forbid we should take advice from college educated scientists. . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @1.1    one month ago
"Oh darn, the democritter socialist commies will need to devise another plan. But then there's probably another month to go up here ... hope lives on."

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Ozzwald
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1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago
It's official....At long last!

But only for fully vaccinated people.

How are Florida people going to prove they're vaccinated?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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1.2.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    one month ago

A move to get to the hesitant vaxers?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    one month ago
But only for fully vaccinated people.

Why else would people get vaccinated if they can't return to normalcy?


How are Florida people

Never mind the people of Florida, why is the idiot in the White House still wearing a mask outside?  No wonder there are people who don't want to get vaccinated!

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    one month ago
why is the idiot in the White House still wearing a mask outside?

He's not, change the channel.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    one month ago

The idiot waddled out of the White House on 1/20/21 after he did his best to burn it all down.  Even dismissed all the staff before he waddled out the door.  One last fuck you to the real President, President Biden.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.5  Ozzwald  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.2.1    one month ago
A move to get to the hesitant vaxers?

That would be my guess.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
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1.2.6  gooseisgone  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    one month ago
How are Florida people going to prove they're vaccinated?

They live in Florida there's no need. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

About freakin time!  Not that we needed his royal permission.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3    one month ago
How are Florida people

Isn't it amazing that the common folk knew that once they were vaccinated, they wouldn't need the mask. I wonder why it took so long for the geniuses over at the CDC to figure it out?  Maybe they realized that people weren't going to bother getting a vaccine if they still had to wear a mask?   Or maybe the Biden administration wanted this decision held back for a day when they would be saddled with so many self made problems - a day like today?

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.3.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    one month ago

I get the feeling you are hoping the CDC is wrong on its latest 'suggestions' and a new wave settles in so that you'll have a valid reason to pound Biden. Not a good look Vic.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    one month ago
Isn't it amazing that the common folk knew that once they were vaccinated, they wouldn't need the mask. I wonder why it took so long for the geniuses over at the CDC to figure it out?

You understand that the CDC has to deal with all the non-vaxers as well, right? 

And that the vaccines are not 100% effective, right?

Maybe they realized that people weren't going to bother getting a vaccine if they still had to wear a mask?

And those are the same "geniuses" that refused to wear masks in the 1st place, thus causing us to go longer before the ability to return to some normalcy. 

If everyone had worn a mask from the start, as recommended, it would have saved thousands of lives, prevented 1 or more COVID waves, and allowed us to return to some semblance of normalcy sooner.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.3    one month ago
You understand that the CDC has to deal with all the non-vaxers as well, right? 

And how much of that did they cause by not telling us this months ago?


And that the vaccines are not 100% effective, right?

Actually they are highly effective.


And those are the same "geniuses" that refused to wear masks in the 1st place

What is the first place? Was that when Biden and Harris were saying they wouldn't trust a vaccine developed by Trump?  The same two assholes that ran to get it right after the election?


If everyone had worn a mask from the start, as recommended, it would have saved thousands of lives, prevented 1 or more COVID waves, and allowed us to return to some semblance of normalcy sooner.

Nobody has ever proved that. Let's face it the CDC sucked when it came to protecting us. Flip Flop Fauci did little more than play politics.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.3    one month ago
"Isn't it amazing that the common folk knew that once they were vaccinated, they wouldn't need the mask. I wonder why it took so long for the geniuses over at the CDC to figure it out?"
"You understand that the CDC has to deal with all the non-vaxers as well, right? 

And that the vaccines are not 100% effective, right?"

"Maybe they realized that people weren't going to bother getting a vaccine if they still had to wear a mask?"

"And those are the same "geniuses" that refused to wear masks in the 1st place, thus causing us to go longer before the ability to return to some normalcy. 

If everyone had worn a mask from the start, as recommended, it would have saved thousands of lives, prevented 1 or more COVID waves, and allowed us to return to some semblance of normalcy sooner."

Thanks for the truth/facts/common sense on the matter Ozz, as always.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    one month ago

"Let's face it the CDC sucked when it came to protecting us.  Flip Flop Fauci did little more than play politics."  

Gee, then maybe you should blame Robert Redfield then, he was head of the CDC at the time . . . the trump ass kisser from Day 1.  

Dr. Fauci has never played politics with Co-Vid - that would be the 'right'

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.3.7  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    one month ago
And how much of that did they cause by not telling us this months ago?

You should read my latest seed. It won't hurt ... promise!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.3.7    one month ago

I'm always willing.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    one month ago
You understand that the CDC has to deal with all the non-vaxers as well, right? 
And how much of that did they cause by not telling us this months ago?

You didn't know that the CDC had to take into account  ALL Americans?  Really???

Actually they are highly effective.

Why are you so afraid to answer a simple questions?  Let me repeat, asking that you understand, " And that the vaccines are not 100% effective, right? "

" Highly effective" is not 100% effective.  You understand that....right?

What is the first place?

When they were advised to start wearing a mask.  I do not understand why such simple questions confuse you.

Was that when Biden and Harris were saying they wouldn't trust a vaccine developed by Trump?

I wouldn't either, and nobody with 1/10 of a brain would trust one either.  Which makes it a good thing that Trump DID NOT develop any of the vaccines.

The same two assholes that ran to get it right after the election?

Ran to get it?  LOL!!!!!

The vaccine they got was developed by Pfiser.  And AGAIN, no vaccine has ever been, or ever will be developed by Trump.  Trump would have a hard time figuring out how a microscope would work, let alone develop a vaccine.

Nobody has ever proved that.

Numbers show the virus spread slowing after mask mandates went into effect.  You can claim that is pure coincidence if you want.

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Greg Jones
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1.3.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @1.3.2    one month ago
I get the feeling you are hoping the CDC is wrong on its latest 'suggestions' and a new wave settles in so that you'll have a valid reason to pound Biden.
Plenty of reasons to pound Biden

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.3.11  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.3    one month ago
If everyone had worn a mask from the start, as recommended, it would have saved thousands of lives, prevented 1 or more COVID waves, and allowed us to return to some semblance of normalcy sooner.
That's very doubtful

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.3.12  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3.10    one month ago
Plenty of reasons to pound Biden

Find one that works, so far they have mostly failed.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3.11    one month ago
If everyone had worn a mask from the start, as recommended, it would have saved thousands of lives, prevented 1 or more COVID waves, and allowed us to return to some semblance of normalcy sooner.
That's very doubtful

The evidence you supplied to prove your, "That's very doubtful", is underwhelming if I were to be generous.  Non-existent, if I were to be specific.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

Interesting, I watched some CNN people talking about this. They were (surprisingly to me) happy about this new guidance, but questioning why you would even need to mask up on buses and airplanes, and so on. Nice to see them thinking for themselves, and I agree.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.4    one month ago
"but questioning why you would even need to mask up on buses and airplanes, and so on."

Why the hell wouldn't you mask up on buses, and airplanes, and so on?

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Tacos!
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1.4.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.1    one month ago
Why the hell wouldn't you mask up on buses, and airplanes, and so on?

Why would I? Before Covid, I never did. 

I know the nuance of comments can be confusing for some, so I’ll clarify. I never said people shouldn’t wear masks on buses and airplanes. I said I supported the fact that news commentators (one of them being a doctor) were willing to ask why the guidance was still recommending it.

But you talk a bit like an infectious disease expert, so maybe you can explain it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.4.2    one month ago

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Tacos!
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1.4.4  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.3    one month ago

A non sequitur in triplicate. How unsurprising.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2  Hallux    one month ago

Thank you Kizzmekia Corbett and others.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    one month ago

Common sense is now science. Good.

crowded indoor settings such as buses, planes, hospitals, prisons and homeless shelters

Hospitals? I mean, I guess the Emergency Room could be crowded, but other than that, I don’t think of hospitals as generally being crowded.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3    one month ago

So you don't think people should wear masks in a hospital??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I'll mention that to my boss, the hospitalist.  See what he thinks of that suggestion. And to the 3rd and 4th year medical students I work with.  

I'll ask what the guards (masked) think of that when I try to enter the hospital when I go to work next week, without a mask on.

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shona1
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3.1.1  shona1  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    one month ago

Evening Tessylo...masks are compulsory when entering any hospital in my state of Victoria.

When I go to St Vincent's Melbourne I have to put the mask I am wearing in the bin. Sanatise my hands and they issue me a new disposable mask. You don't wear a mask you don't get in. That applies to everyone. Security guards doctors nurses and patients.

Is this what you do over there?. We also have to wear them on all public transport and basically anywhere you can't social distance..

We are more or less virus free at the moment... and plan to try and keep it that way..

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  shona1 @3.1.1    one month ago

Exactly right shona!

I think some folks should think before they so blithely dismiss such indisputable common sense and scientific (for lack of a better word) stuff!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    one month ago
So you don't think people should wear masks in a hospital?

So do you read the comments you reply to? I didn’t say people shouldn’t wear a mask. I said I don’t think of them as “crowded” other than maybe the Emergency Room.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.3    one month ago

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shona1
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3.2  shona1  replied to  Tacos! @3    one month ago

Morning. I don't wear a mask to protect myself Tacos...I wear a mask to protect you!! I don't want to be responsible for passing on this bloody virus to you and your family and wiping them out after visiting a hospital or after using public transport.

Hospitals are full of very ill people. Kids in isolation for months battling cancers and people sook about two weeks quarantine..elderly folk, people out of surgery and ones already battling the virus..it one takes one person swaning thru the hospital visiting someone. Chuck up a cough and sneeze with the virus not realising they have got it yet. Contaminate the patient and anyone else into the air con and bingo..

So wearing a face mask here is what it is all about, consideration for others. I go to cancer treatment down Melbourne. We are virtually virus free. I come home I still isolate as you just never know and it doesn't bother me. Have been doing it for near on one and a half years.. and wear a face mask..

And when I am vaccinated I will still wear a mask in a hospital regardless..and out in public if things change to protect my fellow Aussies...a simple thing, that could save a life..

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  shona1 @3.2    one month ago
I don't wear a mask to protect myself Tacos...I wear a mask to protect you!! I don't want to be responsible for passing on this bloody virus to you and your family and wiping them out after visiting a hospital or after using public transport.

That’s cool. I’m fully vaccinated, so I’m not sure I need to be overly concerned about it. But to be clear, before Covid, you didn’t do that, right?

 
 
 
shona1
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3.2.2  shona1  replied to  Tacos! @3.2.1    one month ago

Morning.. no we didn't wear face masks but the vast majority of people with Asian back ground did..no one batts an eye..

The vaccine is not 100% percent effective but better than nothing. So I am certainly not relying on it and if I feel comfortable wearing a mask I will be.

Feels odd without it to be honest. Amazing how quick you adapt to it. The Australian population was asked to do it and we did. Yes as always had the feral element that refused and they copped a fine for their efforts..and were ostracized in their communities for it.

Some were verbally attacked, one had her shop burnt down in the city and some moved. Yes they got their 15 minutes of fame and thought it funny flaunting the rules and putting it on Facebook. Or better still they were arrested. I would have tasered them when they resisted..lucky I am not a cop.

And most of them over 50 Year olds and stupid women.. pity they did not think of their families first..and when it all went pear shaped bawling their eyes out on TV. It was hilarious and made total fools of themselves to the embarrassment of their families.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4  Tessylo    one month ago

N"ew CDC rules still call for wearing masks in crowded indoor settings such as buses, planes and hospitals. Latest COVID news."

That makes good sense.

So what's the problem?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @4    one month ago
That makes good sense.

It does? Why do you think so.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @4.1    one month ago

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