CNN drops Rick Santorum following remarks about Native Americans

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  4 weeks ago  •  59 comments

By:   Dennis Romero (MSN)

CNN drops Rick Santorum following remarks about Native Americans
"We birthed a nation from nothing," Santorum said in April.

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CNN has dropped former Republican Sen. Rick Santorum as a senior political commentator, a network spokeswoman confirmed on Saturday.

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"We've parted ways," Vice President of Communications Alison Rudnick said by email.

The split was first reported by the Huffington Post, which reported that senior management at the news outlet was not pleased with Santorum's May 3 appearance on its "Cuomo Prime Time" show, where he attempted to clarify April remarks about Native Americans at a Young America's Foundation event. Rudnick confirmed the Huffington Post report to NBC News.

Santorum told host Chris Cuomo he "misspoke" and that his remarks were taken out of context.

"I was not trying to dismiss Native Americans," he said.

Santorum's back peddling wasn't enough, a CNN executive told the Huffington Post. Santorum did not immediately respond to a NBC News request for comment.

The initial remarks on Native Americans were widely panned as ignorant, insensitive and racist. At the Young America's Foundation event, Santorum argued there was "nothing here" before European settlers arrived.

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."

The remarks prompted some Native Americans and progressives to call on CNN to drop Santorum.

"Televising someone with his views on Native American genocide is fundamentally no different than putting an outright Nazi on television to justify the Holocaust," Fawn Sharp, president of the National Congress of American Indians, said in a statement.

"Any mainstream media organization should fire him or face a boycott from more than 500 Tribal Nations and our allies from across the country and worldwide," she said.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

Santorum stepped over the line. 

I'm sure he will howl that he was the victim of socialist cancel culture. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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2  pat wilson    4 weeks ago

I think CNN should have representatives of conservatism in their line-up but Santorum is not the caliber of character CNN needs, not at all.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     4 weeks ago

Good riddance.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4  Texan1211    4 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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5  Texan1211    4 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5    4 weeks ago

Do you agree that Santorum made offensive comments about Native Americans ? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    4 weeks ago

Offensive? I don't know. Perhaps insensitive.

But what does that really have to do with CNN's newly-found moral code?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5.1.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.1    4 weeks ago
But what does that really have to do with CNN's newly-found moral code?

The headline of this seed is CNN Drops Rick Santorum Following Remarks About Native Americans.  I'm sure that your personal assessment of CNN might be better received, not to mention infinitely more relevant, if you posted your own article elsewhere.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.1    4 weeks ago

Crappy News Network strikes again. Santorum did not toe the network's liberal party line so they dumped him. Typical.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.3    4 weeks ago

Sure, if "being abysmally ignorant of history" is "not toeing the liberal party line".  It seems that some folks are equating the two.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

Hey, he knew who he was working for. Everyone knows a comment like that won’t fly at CNN and he is not nearly a big enough name to get away with it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

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r.t..b...
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5.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

Please delineate your definition of ‘offensive’ vs. ‘insensitive’. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.18  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to    3 weeks ago

I wouldnt doubt that Fox News will give him his own show now that he is a martyr to "cancel culture" , which is Fox main whipping boy. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.28  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.18    3 weeks ago

I have deleted the rest of this thread for a total derail. Stop it. Only warning.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5.1.29  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.28    3 weeks ago

No!!!!!  I had a few things to say. 

However, I will abide by your instructions and keep my comments to myself. 

And did I mention that you look really pretty today, Ma Cherie Perrie?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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5.1.30  Raven Wing  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.3    3 weeks ago
Santorum did not toe the network's liberal party line so they dumped him. Typical.

Why bring politics into the article that is about Santorum and Native Americans? Is that all you have to offer? I always thought you were better than that. Guess I was wrong.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1.31  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Raven Wing @5.1.30    3 weeks ago

Sorry you feel that way. Have a good evening.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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5.1.32  Raven Wing  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.31    3 weeks ago
Sorry you feel that way

I truly wish I didn't, however, you leave me no choice.

Hope you have a good evening as well.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    4 weeks ago

We just live in a world now where contracts are cancelled because of something someone said whether it was truly problematic or not. I think it’s clear Santorum was trying to boost his country and not dis anyone in particular, but it doesn’t matter. Networks and corporations feel they need to appease the loudest complainers out there, even if they are a small sample. If no one had decided to make a fuss based on politics, I doubt most people would have cared about Santorum’s comment.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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6.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tacos! @6    4 weeks ago
If no one had decided to make a fuss based on politics, I doubt most people would have cared about Santorum’s comment.

The man obliterated an entire nation of first people with his comment.  To refresh your memory:

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."

In essence, you said the same thing he did.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1    4 weeks ago
The man obliterated an entire nation of first people with his comment.

Really? Where are the bodies? I’m pretty sure he didn’t obliterate anyone. Furthermore, your own quote shows that he acknowledged Native Americans all on his own, so again, he wasn’t obliterating anyone. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1    4 weeks ago
I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."

Amazingly ignorant. Half of the states have NA names the Mississippi and Missouri rivers are NA names hundreds of cities have NA names. Perhaps Rick should have paid more attention since his state has a NA name and the dozens of towns throughout the state that have NA names. 

How the Iroquois Great Law of Peace Shaped U.S. Democracy

The Iroquois Confederacy, founded by the Great Peacemaker in 1142 1 , is the oldest living participatory democracy on earth 2 . In 1988, the U.S. Senate paid tribute with a resolution 3  that said, "The confederation of the original 13 colonies into one republic was influenced by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy, as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the constitution itself."

Of course, the foods and medicines (drugs) that we use today were part and parcel of the NA culture.

7 Native American Inventions That Revolutionized Medicine And Public Health

“more than 120 drugs prescribed by physicians  today  were first  made  from ...  They performed arthrocentesis, surgical and wound debridement. There are numerous article, books, and research papers about ''American Indians and pharmacopeia, Santorum should check out his local library on the subject.

Here are a few more inventions by NA's that are used today.

Santorum needs a history lesson.

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Kavika @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
Half of the states have NA names the Mississippi and Missouri rivers are NA names hundreds of cities have NA names.

As does Canada which in Huron-Iroquois (kanata) means village.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Hallux @6.1.3    3 weeks ago

Interesting bit of history, Hallux.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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6.1.5  r.t..b...  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    3 weeks ago

You know better.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  r.t..b... @6.1.5    3 weeks ago
You know better.

I don’t find that persuasive.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @6    3 weeks ago
I think it’s clear Santorum was trying to boost his country and not dis anyone in particular, but it doesn’t matter. Networks and corporations feel they need to appease the loudest complainers out there, even if they are a small sample.

Native Americans are Americans and part of this country. Santorum's comment clearly indicates, intentionally or not, that they are not. 

It was a very offensive comment and someone who has been around as long as Santorum should have known that. End of story. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    3 weeks ago
Native Americans are Americans and part of this country.

They are now, but considering the unique status of reservations, even that is somewhat of a fringe relationship. Santorum was correct when he said the United States of America - as a political nation - was not built on anything that existed here, including what the natives were doing. The European settlers pushed the natives out of the way and set up their institutions according to their own traditions. Furthermore, even societal cultural norms were based on European traditions. The natives were adversaries of this new country in every way for generations. 

That is history. That is how it happened. Saying so is not offensive, but being proud of it arguably is.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    3 weeks ago
Santorum was correct when he said the United States of America - as a political nation - was not built on anything that existed here, including what the natives were doing.

Are you seriously positing that Santorum was talking about the US as a 'political nation'? Come on man...

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.2.3  Kavika   replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    3 weeks ago
They are now , but considering the unique status of reservations, even that is somewhat of a fringe relationship.

Yes, we became citizens in 1924, what does the status of reservations, which you should attempt to explain have to do with what you consider a fringe citizenship relationship?

Santorum was correct when he said the United States of America - as a political nation - was not built on anything that existed here, including what the natives were doing

Nonsense but even if that were true please explain this.

The Iroquois Confederacy, founded by the Great Peacemaker in 1142   1   , is the oldest living participatory democracy on earth   2   . In 1988, the U.S. Senate paid tribute with a resolution   3    that said, "The confederation of the original 13 colonies into one republic was influenced by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy, as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the constitution itself."

Are you aware of what nation was the first to be allied with the US in their fight for Independence. Here is a hint, The Oneida Indian Nation.

Are you aware of who were the people that helped save George Washington when they were suffering at Valley Forge...Here is another hint, The Oneida Indian Nation. Look up Polly Cooper and Shenandoah. There are statues honoring them in Washington D.C.

The natives were adversaries of this new country in every way for generations. 

Many times we were but that's what happens when you invade a country, people fight back. On the other hand Native Americans have fought on the side of the US in every war starting with the Revolutionary War to the present wars. 

American Indians  have  served  in our nation's  military  since colonial times. In recent decades, they have  served  at a  higher rate  in proportion to their population  than any other ethnic group .

That is history. That is how it happened. Saying so is not offensive, but being proud of it arguably is.

That is Santorums and your interpretation which is not supported by reality.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
6.2.4  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.2    3 weeks ago
Are you seriously positing that Santorum was talking about the US as a 'political nation'?

Not just that. I also talked about societal and cultural norms. Perhaps you didn‘t read that far, though.

If you disagree, you are free to say what you think he was talking about.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
6.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  Kavika @6.2.3    3 weeks ago
Yes, we became citizens in 1924, what does the status of reservations, which you should attempt to explain have to do with what you consider a fringe citizenship relationship?

If you don’t consider being pushed onto unwanted land and denied citizenship for 150 years “fringe” I don’t know what else to tell you.

If Santorum’s point was that the United States was not built on an existing nation and that it was done without the natives, then the status of natives in that founding - and in the years after - might speak to that. Since natives were aggressively excluded from inclusion in US society and government, and their ways were popularly considered savage and repulsive, that gives us some indication of how little those early Americans thought of any existing native institutions.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t argue that Europeans thought highly enough of natives to somehow build on native systems and simultaneously observe how terribly they treated those same natives. It makes no sense.

Can we observe individual moments of cooperation and respect? Of course. But those moments do not reflect the larger trends.

As I said, Santorum is observing history (however simplisticly) , and I don’t have a problem with that, but being proud of it is where I think it becomes a little more problematic.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.2.6  Kavika   replied to  Tacos! @6.2.5    3 weeks ago
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t argue that Europeans thought highly enough of natives to somehow build on native systems and simultaneously observe how terribly they treated those same natives. It makes no sense.

That is exactly what has happened, history proves it.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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6.2.7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @6.2.6    3 weeks ago
That is exactly what has happened, history proves it.

Moosh noosh doesn't get it.  Never will.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
6.2.8  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.4    3 weeks ago

I didn't ask you what YOU talked about, I asked you if you are positing that Santorum was talking the US as a 'political nation'. I KNOW that you read that far because it's just ONE sentence and you block quoted it. 

Answer? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
6.2.9  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.5    3 weeks ago
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t argue that Europeans thought highly enough of natives to somehow build on native systems and simultaneously observe how terribly they treated those same natives. It makes no sense.

History PROVES that they are not mutually exclusive. Why try to pretend otherwise?  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
6.2.10  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.8    3 weeks ago

Your question has been answered. All you have to do is read. Have a nice day.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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7  dennis smith    4 weeks ago

If politicians could be cancelled as easily as when they say something that is problematic or not, all current politicians would be gone.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
8  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

lol, dumbass Rick. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago
"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."

What an insulting comment. Centuries after a well documented genocide of a people and a culture, he has the nerve to say that about Indians. How utterly ignorant of him. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.1  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9    3 weeks ago

he's making a bid to be the grand marshal in the local columbus day parade.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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10  Paula Bartholomew    3 weeks ago

He needs to take his own advice.

 
 
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