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Democrats lie about lying about voter ID

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  3 years ago  •  86 comments

By:   MSN

Democrats lie about lying about voter ID
Let's not sugarcoat this: For decades, Democratic politicians and their enablers in the media cartel have flat-out lied when claiming it is racist to require voters to provide proof of their identities.

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Let's not sugarcoat this: For decades, Democratic politicians and their enablers in the media cartel have flat-out lied when claiming it is racist to require voters to provide proof of their identities.

© Provided by Washington Examiner

A sudden about-face on the issue by Democratic leaders shows the allegation was a cynical, race-baiting falsehood all along.

The change occurred when Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia said he could support the so-called John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act if Democrats would amend it in several ways, including voter ID requirements to cast a ballot.

The bill would allow federal bureaucrats to supersede state sovereignty over election practices, thus forcing procedural changes expected to benefit Democrats.

The John Lewis Act contains numerous jokers in the deck worthy of separate analysis. Those jokers are seen as so helpful to Democrats that party leaders, knowing Manchin is a key swing vote, are happy to embrace Manchin's voter ID demand to gain his support for the overall package. For years, Democrats found voter ID requirements an easy target for cheap charges of racism. Now that requiring voter ID helps them accomplish their larger political goals, they pretend it was never a big deal.

In 2014, then-President Barack Obama blasted voter ID laws as a serious barrier to black voters. Now, he endorses Manchin's "compromise" measure that would include an ID requirement.

What changed? Naked political calculation.

In 2018, Georgia's wannabe governor, Stacey Abrams, said voter ID laws are intended to "scare people out of voting." Now, she audaciously says, "No one has ever objected to having to prove who you are to vote. It's been part of our nation's history since the inception of voting."

For years, then-Pastor Raphael Warnock, now a senator from Georgia, claimed ID laws were a form of "voter suppression" so "unnecessary and unjustifiable" that they amount to "dismember[ing]" Martin Luther King Jr.

Now he lies, "I have never been opposed to voter ID. And in fact, I don't know anybody who is."

On goes the roster of Democrats and leftist groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union who opposed voter-ID laws as "part of an ongoing strategy to roll back decades of progress on voting rights." The most recent Democratic summary sheet for the John Lewis Act repeatedly names voter ID laws as a chief example of the supposedly nefarious practices it aims to combat.

Now that they see what Manchin sees — the public supports voter ID despite the Left's decades of scaremongering against it — they are finally willing to jettison the claims they knew were meretricious all along. They knew that even liberal Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens led the way in pronouncing voter ID fully constitutional as a legitimate interest in preventing vote fraud. They knew former President Jimmy Carter, hardly a racist, led a Commission on Federal Election Reform that embraced voter ID.

They knew long ago states that implemented ID laws tended to see minority voting participation rise, not fall. And they knew that even honest liberal outlets acknowledge major studies repeatedly show "state ID laws don't stop voters."

Still, until about a week ago, they kept throwing out false charges anyway because they thought the lies served their political purposes.

In doing so, they pushed a fiction for decades insulting to black people. The fiction was that blacks are somehow too helpless to secure any acceptable forms of ID and too frightened to show identification at the polls. They also pushed the noxious narrative that the United States remains so racist that blacks rightly fear authorities or vigilantes will terrorize them for showing enough identification to vote.

Well, nine years ago, a centrist, black, Democratic former U.S. representative from Alabama, Artur Davis, made a series of speeches belittling these lies. Holding up a valid driver's license, Davis would say, recalling violent civil rights battles of the past, that "this is not a billy club. This is not a fire hose ... This is not Jim Crow … This tiny little thing that doesn't wound, that has no sharp edges."

He added, "To call photo ID a degradation of human rights is not only something that is so fundamentally wrong but is something my parents would not even recognize ... That [claim that ID requirements violate human rights] is the old tactic of telling us the very opposite of what is true."

Davis was right. Now that national Democrats effectively admit as much, will they apologize for their years of race-hustling humbug?

Tags:Editorials, Voter ID Laws, Voter Fraud, Jimmy Carter, Stacey Abrams, Raphael Warnock, Barack Obama, Joe Manchin

Original Author:Washington Examiner

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago
Davis was right. Now that national Democrats effectively admit as much, will they apologize for their years of race-hustling humbug?

HELL to the NO, they won't.

Race-hustling is one of the few things the Democratic Party does well.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 years ago

They live to lie about stuff like this.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    3 years ago

The repukes?  Yes, indeed!

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2  Ronin2    3 years ago

So they are willing to "concede" voter ID's for in person voting? That is the carrot- something that most states already have in place; so they are giving up nothing by throwing it in. 

Wonder how big of a stick they are going to cram up any thinking person's ass in return? Mail in ballots on demand with no reason necessary? Unmonitored drop boxes available 24/7 at key locations up until election day? Ballot harvesting legal everywhere? Federally mandated voting districts? 

Something most states already have; in return for federally run elections everywhere. Sorry, not buying it. This is just the same BS in a different package.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ronin2 @2    3 years ago

You’ve got them figured out.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago

Warnock is a liar--straight up.

He was opposed to voter ID and said so.

Now he has a bout of amnesia and can't remember opposing voter ID and inexplicably says he doesn't even know anyone who has opposed it. Has he been under a fucking rock for the last 20 years????

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
3.1  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @3    3 years ago

It is unbelievable how anybody can deny doing something when they are on video doing what they now deny doing. Don’t they have any idea how hypocritically stupid they look? Or are they just counting on the stupidity of their supporters?

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
3.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  Gazoo @3.1    3 years ago

I believe it’s the latter.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @3.1    3 years ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    3 years ago

Deflecting, derailing, projecting, that is all that is.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.4    3 years ago

And SPAM. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.5    3 years ago

Of course!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.5    3 years ago

IT'S TRUE!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.7    3 years ago

yes, it certainly is true that it is SPAM, deflecting, derailing, projecting, and that is all that is.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.8    3 years ago

No, what I posted is the truth.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.9    3 years ago

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XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1.11  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.7    3 years ago

No, it’s not!  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.11    3 years ago

Yes, it is!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  JBB    3 years ago

Are we supposed not to notice that all 50 Senators in the damn gop voted against the universal voter ID offered to them in the Democrat's compromise bill? Every one of them? 100% of them? That's the story!

Doesn't that prove the gop only wants to suppress the vote? That they don't care about securing the vote?

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.1  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @4    3 years ago

Maybe if you read the article you’d understand why?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @4.1    3 years ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.2  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @4.1    3 years ago

Why did all gop Senators vote NO on voter ID?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.2    3 years ago
Why did all gop Senators vote NO on voter ID?

Because the GOP Senators are smart enough to know that wasn't what they were voting on only.

As explained already in 4.2.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
4.1.4  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @4.1.2    3 years ago

Read the article.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.5  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @4.1.4    3 years ago

I did. My original comment was my response.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.5    3 years ago

Hard to believe that anyone would write that comment AFTER reading the article.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.7  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.6    3 years ago

You don't seem to be able to understand a lot!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.7    3 years ago
You don't seem to be able to understand a lot!

You must not have red my comment.

I said it was hard to believe, not that I didn't understand it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.9  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gazoo @4.1    3 years ago

Interesting concept!  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4    3 years ago
Are we supposed not to notice that all 50 Senators in the damn gop voted against the universal voter ID offered to them in the Democrat's compromise bill? Every one of them? 100% of them? That's the story!

That wasn't the only thing in the bill. And continuing to paint a dishonest picture of Republican opposition isn't going to help with the perception voters will have of the party that has steadfastly and LOUDLY proclaimed that voter ID is racist, only to suddenly backtrack for political purposes only and expose their own lies.

Doesn't that prove the gop only wants to suppress the vote? That they don't care about securing it?

Voter suppression is a liberal myth today. One constantly spread by liberal progressives intent on lying about it.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.1  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2    3 years ago

Therefore, I got you. You are busted. Called it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.1    3 years ago

WTF are you babbling on about????????

Please make sense.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.3  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.2    3 years ago

100% of the lying gop in the US Senate, all 50 of them, voted against the compromise offer by the Democrats which included voter ID...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.3    3 years ago

Senseless to keep repeating yourself. No one is disputing what the vote was.

As stated earlier, the GOP understood that it wasn't the sole thing they were voting on, and is disingenuous and a weak argument to pretend otherwise.

But knock yourself out.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago

The speed in which the Democrats gave in to one of their own on voter ID should indicate to all that their opposition was nothing more than a lie for years.

Should, but in all likelihood won't.

Maybe all those folks who somehow, against such overwhelming odds, managed to vote last year will stop voting for the party that has been dishonest in the opposition to voter ID and are now dishonest in their "support" of it.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
6  bbl-1    3 years ago

No.  The only lying about anything concerned with voting are the GOP of whom for reasons yet to be determined will not even discuss the subject.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @6    3 years ago
No.  The only lying about anything concerned with voting are the GOP of whom for reasons yet to be determined will not even discuss the subject.

How interesting.

You totally ignore the truths in the article and the proof of lies presented.

You totally dismiss the entire premise of the article even though proof is plainly put in front of you.

You present zero evidence for your "claim", as expected.

Your Democrats have been lying to you for decades. Why do you keep falling for it repeatedly?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    3 years ago

Its funny to watch someone who supported Donald Trump , perhaps the biggest liar in American history, try and lecture other people about lying. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    3 years ago
You totally ignore the truths in the article and the proof of lies presented.

What 'proof' is that Tex? Posting truncated exerts of statements out of context are 'proof of NOTHING. 

BTW, the author of your seed misrepresents the context of Abrams' statement, not that you care.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.1    3 years ago

probably as much fun as reading your almost-daily hit pieces on the man you love to hate for the last 4 years.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.2    3 years ago
What 'proof' is that Tex? Posting truncated exerts of statements out of context are 'proof of NOTHING

Read the article.

Understand the article.

Get back to me afterwards.

Or not.

Who cares?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.4    3 years ago

I did ALL of that Tex. 

Get back to me when you read and understand MY comment. 

Or not, who cares. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.5    3 years ago

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Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.6    3 years ago

Yes, your seeds and comments prove quite clearly that you are unimpressed with facts and the truth Tex. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.7    3 years ago
Yes, your seeds and comments prove quite clearly that you are unimpressed with facts and the truth Tex. 

Do let me know when you post a fact.

I would like to see that.

You certainly haven't posted any on this thread.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.9  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.8    3 years ago
Do let me know when you post a fact.

I would like to see that.

You certainly haven't posted any on this thread.

Actually, I did Tex. Here, I'll repeat it:

BTW, the author of your seed misrepresents the context of Abrams' statement, not that you care.
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.9    3 years ago
not that you care.

I will correct myself--you did point out one fact--I don't give a fuck.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.11  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.10    3 years ago
I will correct myself--you did point out one fact--I don't give a fuck.

Thank you for stating the obvious Tex. Your seed claims that 'democrats lie' then proceeds to lie about Democrats. 

Your seed is another example of bullshit written by bias authors who do and say what they pretend to abhor. 

Well done. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.12  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.11    3 years ago
Your seed claims that 'democrats lie' then proceeds to lie about Democrats. 

No, it simply tells the truth about Democrats, and some people get offended by the truth--this is a perfect example of it.

For years, then-Pastor Raphael Warnock, now a senator from Georgia, claimed ID laws were a form of "voter suppression" so "unnecessary and unjustifiable" that they amount to "dismember[ing]" Martin Luther King Jr. Now he lies, "I have never been opposed to voter ID. And in fact, I don't know anybody who is."

Surely no one actually breathing believes that he doesn't even "know anyone opposed to voter ID".

If they do, they should seek immediate medical attention.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.12    3 years ago
No, it simply tells the truth about Democrats, and some people get offended by the truth--this is a perfect example of it.

Yet you stated that my comment:

BTW, the author of your seed misrepresents the context of Abrams' statement, not that you care.

Is a fact.

Since you admit that your seed misrepresents the context of Abrams' statement, your seed does NO tell the truth about Democrats. 

Simple logic Tex. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.14  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.13    3 years ago

Your "logic" leaves much to be desired.

I'll leave it at that for now.

Lying about what I have posted when the post is still there is rather silly and very weak.

Do better.

be honest.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.15  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.14    3 years ago
Your "logic" leaves much to be desired.

How so Tex. What part of my logic fails? 

I'll leave it at that for now.

Typical. 

Lying about what I have posted when the post is still there is rather silly and very weak.

What did I lie about Tex. Please be specific. 

Do better.

I always do much better than the innuendo you posted. 

be honest.

I have been. I challenge you to prove otherwise. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.16  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.15    3 years ago
How so Tex. What part of my logic fails? 

If you can't even recognize it, explanation would be a waste of time.

What did I lie about Tex. Please be specific. 

Read your own posts, read mine, figure that shit out!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6.1.17  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.16    3 years ago
If you can't even recognize it, explanation would be a waste of time.
Read your own posts, read mine, figure that shit out!

So unsurprisingly, you've got nothing. 

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.18  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.1.17    3 years ago

On the contrary, I have everything I need!

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
6.1.19  bbl-1  replied to  Dulay @6.1.17    3 years ago

bantering with the SVR.  it is a circle jerk.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.2  JBB  replied to  bbl-1 @6    3 years ago

That is the main point the gop is desperate to hide!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2    3 years ago
That is the main point the gop is desperate to

And what lies are you going to claim the GOP is telling regarding voting?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.2.2  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.1    3 years ago

All of them...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2.2    3 years ago

How very conveniently vague.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
6.2.4  bbl-1  replied to  JBB @6.2.2    3 years ago

Mega dittos.  lol

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
8  Tacos!    3 years ago

Democrats on Voter ID . . . 

2014: That’s racist!

2015: That’s racist!

2016: That’s racist!

2017: That’s racist!

2018: That’s racist!

2019: That’s racist!

2020: That’s racist!

2021: Yeah, no problem. We’ve always supported Voter ID. Why wouldn’t we?

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JBB
Professor Principal
8.1  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @8    3 years ago

Why did every gop Senator vote against voter ID?

Was it because suppressing the vote is their aim?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
8.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @8.1    3 years ago

You realize that doesn't even make sense, right?

And anyway, if Voter ID was in the alternative bill, it seems pretty obvious that they would know that. So they obviously voted against the bad bill with Voter ID so they could have a chance to vote for a better one. I mean . . . it should be obvious. But that would require something you seem unwilling to do.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.1.2  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    3 years ago

What I am saying is that it is faulty logic to contend that 100% of Republican US Senators, all 50 of them, voting against the proposed compromise voting rights bill offered by the Democrats which included a stipulation requiring universal voter ID, DOES NOT VINDICATE THE GOP FROM CHARGES OF RACISM. in fact, it actually confirms them!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @8.1.2    3 years ago
What I am saying is that it is faulty logic to contend that 100% of Republican US Senators, all 50 of them, voting against the proposed compromise voting rights bill offered by the Democrats which included a stipulation requiring universal voter ID, DOES NOT VINDICATE THE GOP FROM CHARGES OF RACISM. in fact, it actually confirms them!

Ridiculous and untrue.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
8.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @8.1.2    3 years ago

First, no one said anything about vindicating the GOP from charges of racism.

Second, the story in no way says anything about the GOP, much less specifically confirming racism.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago

I wonder if some folks will ever even realize that the Democratic Party has been lying to them for years about voter ID?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10  Tessylo    3 years ago

I wonder if some folks will ever even realize that the republikkans are lying sacks of shit and have been lying to everyone for DECADES about EVERYTHING?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @10    3 years ago

Gee, some brilliant person should seed an article on THAT instead of derailing, deflecting, denying, and projecting on this one.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1    3 years ago

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Texan1211
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10.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.1    3 years ago

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