White supremacists march through Philadelphia, get chased away by angry onlookers.
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Via: gsquared • 4 years ago • 177 commentsBy: Daniel Politi (Slate Magazine)
The Neo-Fascist base of the Trumpist Republican Party took to the streets of Philadelphia on Saturday night, throwing smoke bombs, attacking citizens and chanting "the election was stolen". Their hatred for America, the American people and the American way of life is open and obvious. They are a menace to our society.
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Around 150 white supremacists marched in front of Philadelphia City Hall late on Saturday night. The marchers were part of the Patriot Front, a known white supremacist group based in Texas, and they wore white face coverings while waving flags and shields. Some also carried signs that read "Reclaim America" and chanted "the election was stolen" while they marched. Police said none of the marchers were from Philadelphia.
It seems the white supremacists had their march cut short by angry onlookers who made their feelings clear about having white supremacists openly espousing their views on the streets of Philadelphia. The onlookers started yelling at the protesters and there were a few scuffles with the white supremacists. A witness said the marchers often tossed smoke bombs and then used that as a cover to hit and kick counterprotesters. Although police were present, they apparently didn't get really involved as counterprotesters and white supremacists traded blows.
Police said the onlookers eventually chased the white supremacists away. "They started engaging with citizens of Philadelphia, who were none too happy about what they were saying. These males felt threatened, and at one point somebody threw a smoke bomb to cover their retreat, and they literally ran away from the people of Philadelphia," police officer Michael Crum told local ABC affiliate WPVI. Police later pulled over the trucks the white supremacists were traveling in for safety reasons.
The Anti-Defamation League defines the Patriot Front as "a white supremacist group whose members maintain that their ancestors conquered America and bequeathed it solely to them." Patriot Front members are known to organize "localized flash mob demonstrations," which is what appears to have taken place in Philadelphia on Saturday night.
Even though the march didn't last long, experts who monitor extremist groups say it's troubling that such a large group of Patriot Front members descended on Philadelphia during a holiday weekend. They say it demonstrates how the group has become increasingly active in Pennsylvania and likely took to the streets in a bit to not only spread its message but also recruit new members. "It's like they're saying, 'We're here. We're nearby,'" Shira Goodman, the regional director of the Anti-Defamation League's Philadelphia chapter, told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "The danger is always there. We know these groups have become more emboldened in recent years, and that things that have been in the shadows of the internet have come off-line."
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Neo-Fascist Trumpists took to the streets of Philadelphia Saturday night. The people of Philadelphia chased them away. The fascists must not be allowed to impose their dictatorship over our country.
... and the trumpster klan picked philly for this stunt? like more proof of their ignorance is required.
They were celebrating their role in the founding on the 4th of July in Philadelphia.
I for one do not put my trust in one person, but, in the majority of the American people as a whole.
Those who seek to destroy our democracy and America do not know yet who their true enemy is. The one that will surely see their end.
Were now dealing with a large segment of conservatives that through Trump have embraced Neofascism.
Very true. Trump has made the Republican party the political enemy of America. That is not to say that ALL Republicans are like that, but, those that are have torn their party apart. And until the saner Republicans stand up and take back their party to the basics of their party, it will continue to fall from respectability. That will cause the Republicans that are true Americans, and not Putin ass kissers like Trump, to retake their party, or, create a new party based on the true values and beliefs of what was once the true Republican party.
And that day may not be too far away.
Alleged 'conservatives'.
The gqp is now the Anti-America party.
Nice to see there is at least some semblance of sanity somewhere in this country.
As long as they are peaceful they have every right to "take to the streets"
Peaceful? These thugs?
They tend to be more peaceful than the BLM and antifa crowd.
How many Trump signs and flags among them? Doubt it was zero.
The MAGA bots chanted that, "The election was stolen." Yeah, the election was stolen in 2016. Everything the MAGAs claim happened in 2020 absolutely happened in 2016. Except this time, in 2020 our INTEL was able to thwart most of it. Fifteen million of Trump's 73 million votes in 2020 were fraudulent.
Care to provide a credible source
what good would that do for birthers, teabags and Q-nuts?
Helsinki. Find out what happened behind those closed doors and you will know.
You made the claim. Show us the proof, or are you just going to demand we show proof it isn't true?
His personal lawyer has all the evidence.
It's down here somewhere..... Just a little more digging.....
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I can prove it, it's just down a little deeper.
So you can't
Then price it already.
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Found a shirt tail, getting closer.
Still hasn't found his balls, he gave them to trumpturd a long time ago
People need to get serious about what is going on in this country. January 6th was a terrorist attack perpetrated by fascist extremists incited and led by Trump. There is a continuum from the Oklahoma City bombing to Charlottesville to the January 6th insurrection. Dylann Roof and other murderous thugs are related to this situation. What happened in Philadelphia on Saturday night was another manifestation of the fascist threat.
We've seen Sinclair Lewis's statement countless times..... It bares repeating:
When fascism comes to America it will be "wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
Now just what the hell will we do about it......? In my mind, it will get evermore violent.
Now just what the hell will we do about it......?
Oh, maybe sic a bunch of BLM, Antifa, and illegal immigrant punks and thugs on them.
The sad thing is that so many supposedly educated and bright people buy into the paranoid hysteria about so called 'white supremacy ' and the fake 'fascism' propaganda bullshit
Well Greg, those whom align themselves with white supremacists and fascists, they are really challenged to see the problem they are a part of.
"Evermore" is a beautiful album by Taylor Swift.
As far as fascism. My father was in The Normandy Invasion, second wave. They killed or captured every fascist they came across.
Of all the six hundred criminal traitors who have been arrested for violently trying to overthrow the United States of America on January 6th, how many were BLM or ANTIFA?
ANSWER - ZERO ZIP NADA NONE OF THEM!
We've been through this several times before and you have never been able to show proof that every single arrested person was a Trump supporter.
You've made the claim so many times now, you probably actually believe it, so maybe now you can prove it?
(Not holding my breath)
How about all the trump flags, shirts, QAnon merch, etc?
Doesn't matter, a majority of the time criminals are not charge with all possible crimes they committed.
What was their own stated purpose for the Jan. 6th insurrection?
Strawman. JBB didn't say a word about treason Tex.
Another strawman. JBB didn't say a fucking word about Trump supporters either.
What about them?
Well, gee, Dulay, who the fuck do you think he was talking about? Little princesses in pink tutus? Of course he was talking about Trump supporters. Ever heard of context? Hell, I don't know how many times on here I've been told by a loon leftist on here to look at the context of a post.
I've also challenged him to prove every time he posts something similar and he has never been able to do it.
Maybe you can continue to be a part of his defense crew and show that proof?
Well gee bugsy, it looks like you are assuming that 'all the six hundred criminal traitors' are Trump supports.
Sorry, Dulay, I don't assume a fucking thing. [deleted]
Except that JBB is talking about Trump supporters.
What's asinine is that you don't even seem to recognize that you posted definitions of 'traitor' that do NOT include a fucking thing about TREASON.
Thanks so much for making my point that your comment was a strawman Tex.
Oh and BTFW, in the sentence you quoted, the word 'traitor' is a NOUN!
Thanks for the 'I'm rubber, you're glue' reply Tex. Typical
Let's see how receptive YOU are Tex.
Answer ONE simple yes or no question about English grammar.
Is 'traitor' a NOUN in that sentence?
Well gee Tex, your comment is just a childish little word game.
Your own posted definitions prove that one can be a traitor without committing treason.
Why truncate it Tex?
Let's read the statement from the beginning.
See the NOUN thingy there Tex?
How about the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN part?
Your own link states clearly that there is a DIFFERENCE between treason an traitor. So WHY THE FUCK do YOU continue to conflate the two NOUNS?
Your source SHOULD have said that the betrayal has to be during a time of war which is the predicate for codifying it as a crime.
Or a person who betrays a friend, country, principle...
One cannot be charged with treason UNLESS the US is at war Tex.
One can still be a traitor to their country in a time of peace.
I don't need to spin anything Tex. I just used YOUR spin to refute your posit.
Sadly, that is the most clear comment you have posted.
He did say there were traitors arrested. That means that treason was committed. So now either you or JBB can answer how many of the January 6 protesters were charged with treason?
Do show where it specifically says that it has to be in times of war please.
No, NO it doesn't. I'd encourage you to look it up for yourself but I doubt you actually give a shit about facts.
Look it up yourself.
Do tell us how one can be a traitor without committing treason.
Okay then, call them "insurrectionists" instead of traitors. Of the almost six hundred insurrectionists arrested for violent crimes during Trump's January 6th Insurrection against Congress, how many were BLM or ANTIFA? The answer is zero. None of those arrested were BLM or ANTIFA. Not even one...
Put that into your MAGA pipe and smoke it!
So like I thought, your making things up again. If you weren't you would not be telling people to look it up but would post the answer your self.
You do realize Tex, one can betray someone, and thus be-a-traitor without it being about a country. Trump beatraitor from day one, and his actions and words, incited others to betray US, and our rules of Law, and since you seem hell bent on this parsing of words thingy, lets see if we can't do
likewise, till doust to despies, cause i like this game, will see if parsing words , does not bring at least one of us shame, cause i have not much, and automatically i double clutch, in situations, and you'll be helped found, possibly a little frustration, cuz i N joy Almonds and Mounds of candy, whence i take from a big baby, baby, so c'mon and parse, cause i can't except , candy, from you baby i will deliver, till onions shed tears, crying over all the peeled back layers, asz u juke n jive like a Gal Sayers, saying not much n such, so i'll attempt to stay numb, from your touch, as i'll be a crutch, for your broken foot, that enjoys kicking habits and teeth, cause rated, Beyond Belief, cause who don't Luv themselves a little Miss Chief...?
it's okay Tex, just toss em'
You're wrong.
I encouraged you to do your own research and educate yourself. It would take you the same amount of time that it took you to post that comment.
That's awful!
There is nothing wrong with calling them traitors.
Are people so lazy now they cant spend ten seconds looking up a definition?
(Im not talking about you JBB. )
Partly laziness... but above all, they don't give a shit.
Muddying the waters, making truth indistinguishable from lie, sabotaging logic and reason, ... These are not errors. They are intentional.
Ruining intelligent discussion is essential preparation for the Big Lie.
I'm quite ABLE to Tex. I merely prefer to encourage you and yours to look it up and educate yourselves.
Are you afraid to look up and read the statute for yourself because it will prove you woefully uninformed?
At this point, if you don't look it up for yourself, you're not just woefully uninformed, you're also willfully uninformed.
Oh and once you DO read it, I'm sure you'll come back and post a mea culpa. /s
Being willfully uninformed is meritorious among
RepublicansAmerican Fascists.According to the Constitution, Article III, section 3 ,clause 1,
None of the January 6th protestors did any of that Actually it sounds more like the BLM rioters who's leaders claimed that they were going to burn this country down if they didn't get there way
Also the official definion of a traitor is someone who commits treason.
Also the official definion of a traitor is someone who commits treason.
Which would include trumpturd and his mob and their failed coup on 1/6/21.
Do tell what parts of Article III, section 3 clause 1 did they break?
as many of us oh so do understand
Hey Tex, did you read 4.1.51?
Who are you block quoting there Tex?
Then you should acknowledge that the statute n treason adheres quite closely to Article III, section 3 clause 1.
Oh and perhaps you should try to understand the "shall consist only in levying War against them" part of Article III, section 3 clause 1.
Now, based on Article III, section 3 clause 1, how about YOU explain why you keep asking why none of the 1/6 insurrectionist have been charged with treason.
Is it your posit that they violated Article III, section 3 clause 1?
How many times do your comments need to be proven obtuse Tex?
Oh and I see that you failed to explain WHY you keep asking about charges of treason after it's been explained to you, more than once, that their actions do NOT qualify under the Constitution OR the statute.
It's also been proven to you that one can be a 'traitor' WITHOUT if having anything to do with treason. Yet you persist in denying that fact.
BTW, WHO were you block quoting Tex?
Please cite the comment from this seed Tex.
From your comment 4.1.27
From the Constitution. What part of that don't you understand?
See the word "or" in there? It is quite possible to have enemies and not be at war. You as still wrong.
The meaning of the word ' enemy ' in this context is a nation in which we are engaged in war.
Actually, the USC includes a LEGAL definition of 'enemy/enemies'. Care to educate yourself or do you need me to hold your hand?
BTFW, while very few have actually been found guilty of treason, there have been Supreme Court cases of people charged with treason whose convictions were overturned specifically because the US was NOT 'at war'. An example of that is:
in which the court states
So while the defendant did indeed give 'aid and comfort' to Nazi Germany from 1933 - 1940, there was no evidence that he did so once we were 'at war' with Germany. While the US sure as hell opposed Nazi Germany from 1933 - 1940, the were not LEGALLY 'enemies' until war was declared.
If you and yours insist on bandying about the Constitution, LEGAL terms and LEGAL charges based on United States Code of Laws, I suggest you invest the time to properly educate yourselves before you start flapping your gums.
Yet SOME can understand the LAW and both of you have proven that you don't.
Your comment is utterly delusional.
I replied to that post and answered your questions by suggesting that you review the "shall consist only in levying War against them" part of Article III, section 3 clause 1" Tex.
BTFW, YOU ignored MY question in that reply. Got an answer?
Oh and I'm still wondering who the fuck you were block quoting because it sure as hell wasn't me. Though you DID state that YOU had moved on. Guess that was a FALSE claim.
Why continue posting OBTUSE comments Tex?
They were convicted of treason for 'levying War against' the US. The 'war we were in' was an 'insurgency' of THEIR own making. If you want to know what 'war' they 'levied', I suggest that you repeat the practice of looking it up and educate YOURSELF.
Here, I'll give you a hint to get you started: The Whiskey Rebellion.
Do you understand that treason (by aiding an enemy) cannot exist unless there is an enemy for the traitor to aid?
Do you understand that in the context of treason, an enemy is defined as that with whom the USA is at war (whether or not officially declared)?
What did the men that you cited DO Tex? Do you even know or care?
It amazes me that right after you admit that you 'looked up' FACTS, you changed your position yet you seem incapable of doing so now. The men you named 'levied war' against the US causing a 'time of war'. For BOTH events, the POTUS sent troops to quell the insurrection, George Washington actually led the militia in the first instance.
I can't explain it more provincially. If you don't get it by now, you never will. That's on YOU. Own it.
Why post another obtuse comment Tex?
The trial and conviction does not have to take place while at war. The crime of treason, however, can only be committed (the aiding part) by aiding an enemy which is defined as that with which the USA was at war (formal or informal).
Simply stated: aiding treason can only be committed against an enemy and thus can only be committed during a time of war (formal or not). The trial is another thing entirely.
This is basic stuff. Why protest with nuh'uh rebuttals and similarly foolish comments?
You are dead wrong.
You clearly do not.
The act of treason (the aiding part) can only occur against an enemy and an enemy (as defined) is one with which the USA is at war (formal or informal). Thus Dulay's comment is accurate.
You continue to just ignore this and pretend as though you are correct.
You are not; you are wrong. Pretending otherwise is foolish.
Note, the other form of treason (levying war against the USA) is where those committing treason are part of the enemy. Same definition of enemy (i.e. formal or informal declaration).
You two can resolve this by simply agreeing that treason can only occur when there is an enemy and that enemy is either a nation with which we have formally or informally declared war or a nation or group that is levying war (even if not officially declared) against the USA.
If so, you will be agreeing on that which is true. Give it a try.
You've block quoted my comment so you KNOW that is FALSE Tex. I said CHARGED.
Secondly, unless and until you can get through your bias and recognize the FACTS of the cases that YOU cited, I can't help you and you've proven yourself unworthy of further explanation.
I have been stating what is true all along. As you stated, Tex refuses to acknowledge that truth.
Tex, I'm sure you know what the WORDS are but you have proven that you do NOT know what the law MEANS.
In order to convicted one must be charged first. Quit played word games.
Wow, that's some revelatory shit right there. /s
Quit posting obtuse bullshit.
Stirring the pot.
You're still assuming good faith...
I know.
I suspect it is more like Trump denying he lost the election.
Yeah, arkpdx, that is correct. Pointing out the obvious (as if someone made an error) shows that you are not following the logic. The phases are commit ⇒ charge ⇒ convict.
One can be charged with treason for giving aid to an enemy and then be convicted of treason later after the enemy no longer is an enemy. This may blow your mind, but one can even be charged with treason during peace time. Here is how:
See how that works? One can be charged and/or convicted of treason during peace time; but one cannot commit treason during peace time because peace time means there is no enemy with which to commit treason.
The cops just stood and watched.
Of course. The protesters were White. White people can do pretty much whatever they want.
If they had a permit to march and were not physically attacking someone, all LE could do is stand by and watch.
No permit. It was like a flash mob thingy.
Then it should have been deemed an unlawful assembly and them being removed from the area. It would appear that the locals took care of that though.
Ya think they might be Trumpettes?
NAs?
Or Putinettes.
Vlad And The Putinettes opened for Ku Klux Donnie And The Klanners at CPAC...
Ooooooooooooo.
150 white supremacists. That's scary s/
Biggest threat to America my ass.
In matching uniforms. My mother came of age in Thessaloniki, Greece during WWII, she would have feared them as reincarnated ghosts from the past far more than any present day Antifa/BLM crowd.
I bet your mom saw Hell up close and personal. I understand the Nazis committed many atrocities in Greece
The civil war that followed WWII in Greece was brutal.
I would recommend the movie Eleni.
Thanks! I always appreciate a recommendation for a historical film
That the Nazis did and were very careful to blame it on the Italians who were not boy scouts either. At the end of the war she was chased by the communists in the north to Athens were she met my father and he whisked her off to England and later here to Canada. Why did the communists chase her? She came from a wealthy family and German officers were billeted in her house which made her a sympathizer.
Much of Eleni's story was my mother's also.
How horrible! She didn't choose to born to a wealthy family and it probably wasn't her idea to billet German soldiers
You were not asked, you were told.
Yes, very sorry. You're right
The stories that your mother could tell.
In the 1980's and part of the 90s I spent a lot of time in the old Yugoslavia and in Greece. My wife and I rented a cabin from a greek couple that also owned a restaurant. We spent the best part of the two weeks discussing WWII the Greek Civil war and all things connected to it. We ate dinner every night in their home not the restaurant with their extended family. It was a time that I won't soon forget.
The town was Tourlos just outside of Mykonos.
As with most people who experienced WWII, my Dad fighting through N. Africa, into Sicily and then through Italy, both my parents only mentioned the very rare 'funny' moments. My Mom mostly about my Dad chasing her through Athens with a basket of melons and she running just fast enough for him to catch her. Her goal was to get the fuck out of Europe and he was her means.
Absolutely no reason to be sorry.
I love it.
Sorry, but I see a ragtag group of idiots wearing khakis, some with pockets, some without, blue shirts, some long sleeve, some short, some carrying back packs and others wearing backpacks. Probably not a two of them wearing the same thing. Not exactly matching.
I know boy scout groups that had better uniform discipline then these guys.
Nothing to be afraid of here.
Thank you all for a fun thread.
Sorry, not uniforms, just a small group of idiots trying to look official. I'm curious...does cargo pants and blue shirts trigger some?
In as much as black hoodies trigger others.
Just depends on what those in the black hoodies are doing.
So you are OK with BLM and ANTIFA burning and looting?
Sounds like you are.
Let me guess.
Whitey deserves it.
No but marching in uniforms, in formation,
with white masks, the same "uniform" hats, chanting some racist BS might trigger some.
The fact that every non flag bearer or banner bearer had a shield and bulging cargo pants pockets
apparently triggered even more people.
Did they have a permit to parade? Apparently not.
They were trolls, nothing more or less and lucky to escape Philly in one piece.
So the big bad Texans ran away from the puny, squishy Yankees*, eh?
*clarification in case for the sarcasm disabled: I knew a lot of tough Yankee boys growing up. They could kick ass and wouldn't bother with names later
Ever been to an Eagles Game ? Philly Fellows and Females, aren't to be messed with, Hell, we pelt Santa with Snow Ballz. A violent unruly bunch when need be, and this was a time where need be was warranted , imho
I grew up out side of Pittsburgh in a very rural area. But I did go to college with Eagles fans. I thought Steelers fans were bad....
No one was as bad as the Flyers or their fans.
Philly fans are often considered to be among the worst in sports. I remember where a dude intentionally made himself puke beer all over a girl supporting the opposing team. She was like 12 years old. Philly fans in a nut shell lol.
Nearly worst maybe, but a University of Oklahoma fan once ripped the scrotum off of a Texan for wearing a UT hat into a bar...
They're all a bunch of pussies once confronted.
Reading through the comments above, what is most notable is that the "conservatives"/right wing types are either in denial about, dismissive of and/or supportive of the very real threat posed by the white supremacists, neo-fascists, neo-Nazis and anti-government militias. It's not a good look for them and clearly demonstrates why our democracy is in grave danger.
It is and what's sad is that if we lose it it will be due to wide-spread, abysmal stupidity.
How mature!
Sounds like the ranting of a [deleted]
Yet another comment from you that is devoid of reasoned commentary and is nothing more than childish name mangling.
Reading the comments has been interesting ...
I do not agree with the ideology of the 'white supremist' ... not wild about anyone claiming they are superior to others - it does not take a white supremist or Neo Nazi to fit into the 'we are superior' category ..
Let us break this down .. in 2019 there were roughly 3k to 8k members of the KKK - in the '20s the membership were around 4 million strong, 25k of which marched on DC ... whereas there were roughly 500 to 600 tiki torch carrying jackasses in the most notorious supremacy gathering of our time .. Atom Waffen is somewhere around 80 to a 100 members .. there are supposedly 900 something hate groups in the US .. is that too many? YES!
These groups have marched for multiple decades - were even marching in SC when the federate flag was banned and came down from the capitol building of that state [where was the opposition that day to their presence?].. did Trump 'embolden' said groups..? perhaps .. but honestly by how much? These groups of individuals have always been present, vote - have always voted .. it is nothing new that started in the 2016 election cycle..
The attention given to said groups is disproportionate to the influence these groups actually have - all the hype of how evil these groups are is a recruiting tool for the misunderstood and neglected among us - these individuals [young people] are seeking family, acceptance and understanding .. most have been bullied belittled and have no support at home, they become vulnerable to these groups just as the occult sucks so many more in than supremist groups do..
It comes down to the supremist marching in the street is less threatening than the supremist hiding in the shadows!
Rant rave and gnash teeth - I am just expressing my opinion on the subject - I will not be back to respond to any comments!