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A Strange Defense of Spying on Trump

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  vic-eldred  •  3 years ago  •  101 comments

By:   The Editorial Board (WSJ)

A Strange Defense of Spying on Trump
A tech executive's response to Durham raises more questions.

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The press corps doesn't usually support government spying, but when it comes to Donald Trump they are making an exception. The journalists who gave themselves prizes for pressing the Russia collusion narrative that turned out be false are now dismissing news that their narrative was inflated with false information collected by eavesdropping on Mr. Trump.

A legal filing Friday by special counsel John Durham says a private contractor aided the Hillary Clinton campaign in concocting the false collusion tale. Tech executive Rodney Joffe worked with other researchers to mine proprietary internet data, including records from the White House. The filing says Mr. Joffe could access this data because his employer had a "sensitive arrangement" with the government to provide internet services, which Mr. Joffe "exploited" to help Team Clinton gather "derogatory information about Donald Trump."

Mr. Joffe’s response, in a Monday statement, is worth parsing. It describes Mr. Joffe as an “apolitical internet security expert” who “legally provided access” to the internet data from the White House.

“Under the terms of the contract, the data could be accessed to identify and analyze any security breaches or threats,” says the statement. And since there were “legitimate national security concerns about Russian attempts to infiltrate the 2016 election,” Mr. Joffe and “cyber-security researchers” prepared a “report of their findings,” which they gave to the CIA.

The Russians were a legitimate 2016 electoral threat, but Mr. Joffe’s statement doesn’t explain how or why he cooperated with Clinton representatives. If the contractor’s job was to monitor security threats to the U.S., then the responsibility was to report any suspicious activity to the government—immediately and in a classified manner.

But according to Mr. Durham’s filing, Mr. Joffe took his information to others—namely, lawyers for the Clinton campaign, who also brought in the oppo-research hit squad Fusion GPS. This partisan team spent months writing anti-Trump white papers full of unproven claims that they spread to the media. We doubt government contracts include: “In case of threats, first call Democrats.”

Mr. Joffe’s statement raises more questions than it answers. Who in government provided the contract that gave him such access to White House records? Why did he cooperate with Clinton campaign operatives? How did he come to hire the same lawyer who worked for the Clinton campaign?

We don’t apologize for thinking that all of this is news that readers might like to know about. The mystery is why the rest of the press corps wants everyone to ignore it.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

The Durham memo is clear and it is being directed to Michael Sussman. The message is that Sussman's lawyers are not serving him. They are trying to protect others. Sussman should be cooperating.

Durham is building a larger conspiracy case. Sussman is a vital link in that case.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
1.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago
The Durham memo is clear and it is being directed to Michael Sussman.

First, it's NOT a memo, it's a 'provocative and misleading' MOTION TO INQUIRE INTO POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.  

The message is that Sussman's lawyers are not serving him.

Uttter bullshit. 

Of special note is that not even Durham made that claim in his bullshit motion. 

The message is that Durham fails to charge ANYONE for the conspiracy allegations he has made throughout his filings. 

They are trying to protect others.

They WHO Vic? 

Sussman should be cooperating.

Why would Sussman cooperate with a prosecutor that has done nothing but LIE? 

Durham is building a larger conspiracy case.

Durham has alleged that he had evidence of a conspiracy since September of 2020 yet hasn't charged ANYONE. 

BTFW, the statute of limitations has lapsed. 

Sussman is a vital link in that case.

Well then Durham fucked himself by lying about Sussman since September. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.2    3 years ago
They WHO Vic? 

Sussman's lawyers. Pay attention.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
1.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 years ago
Sussman's lawyers. Pay attention.

Oh, I am Vic. I read all of the machinations you post. They're a daily source of comic relief. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Dulay @1.2    3 years ago

Well then Durham fucked himself by lying about Sussman since September. 

512

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
2  Nerm_L    3 years ago

C'mon, folks, all of this involves the Clintons.  The motivation for the Clintons doing anything ain't rocket science.  Follow the money.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Expert
2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Nerm_L @2    3 years ago

Yep, spot on.    The closer it gets to the evil one, the harder all the Clinton sycophants fight it.

Its how worker drones roll ......

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 years ago
The Russians were a legitimate 2016 electoral threat, but Mr. Joffe’s statement doesn’t explain how or why he cooperated with Clinton representatives. If the contractor’s job was to monitor security threats to the U.S., then the responsibility was to report any suspicious activity to the government—immediately and in a classified manner.

The fact that there was no report of any suspicious activity should tell everybody with half a brain that the Democrats wasted millions of taxpayer money and 4 years "investigating" something that wasn't there.

Even when the pure partisan investigation was expanded to look for ANY wrong doing, it come up empty.  And yet here we are, almost 6 years later and we STILL have the left chirping that there was something criminal.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    3 years ago

This is all to distract from Trump's financial crimes

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago

That you think Durham gives a flying fuck about Trump's finances is comical as hell.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago
This is all to distract from Trump's financial crimes

Didn't Meuller look into those during his "investigation" and come up with nothing?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
4.3.1  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3    3 years ago
Didn't Meuller look into those during his "investigation" and come up with nothing?

No, it wasn't a part of his mandate.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @4.3.1    3 years ago

Half of what he was looking into wasn't in the mandate.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
4.3.3  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.2    3 years ago

Pfft.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago
This is all to distract from Trump's financial crimes

Gee, that's what Hillary just said.

John, that time has come. A lot of people are going to be squirming.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5  Sunshine    3 years ago

Rodney is in deep doodoo.  Two employees have already testified against him, and there will be more to come. 

It may take some time but the truth will be forthcoming.

 
 
 
Moose Knuckle
Freshman Quiet
8  Moose Knuckle    3 years ago

Who really cares about spying? We getting free crack pipes!

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
8.1  Sunshine  replied to  Moose Knuckle @8    3 years ago

320

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
8.1.1  JaneDoe  replied to  Sunshine @8.1    3 years ago

No, there will be new masks with holes to smoke your crack. LMAO

320

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
8.1.3  JaneDoe  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.2    3 years ago
All the white trash trumpturd supporters will be lining up for those!

Could be but I doubt there will be any left after all the big fat white trash, can’t keep the Twinkies out of my pie hole, Biden supporters waddle down to get theirs.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
8.1.5  JaneDoe  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.4    3 years ago
You're confused,

Never. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Expert
8.2  Sparty On  replied to  Moose Knuckle @8    3 years ago

Crack pipe?  

I’m still waiting for my free Obama phone

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sparty On @8.2    3 years ago
Obama phone

That program was started under Reagan and was expanded to include cell phones under George W. Bush. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Expert
8.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  MrFrost @8.2.1    3 years ago

Lol ..... but, but, but Reagan ..... but, but Bush ..... what about but, but, but Clinton?

Hilarious!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.2    3 years ago
Lol ..... but, but, but Reagan ..... but, but Bush ..... what about but, but, but Clinton?

Wow, not a fan of facts I guess. You can look it up for yourself. Sorry to upset you. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Expert
8.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  MrFrost @8.2.3    3 years ago

Lol .... I’m not the one who is upset Frosty so stay frosty bro ..... you’ll live longer.

For comprehension purposes, I clearly wasn’t countering what you said but rather was only pointing out that you included Reagan and Bush but not Clinton.    Clearly the act of an angry, triggered person but hey, that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 
 
 
Moose Knuckle
Freshman Quiet
9  Moose Knuckle    3 years ago

Democrats butt hurt about 2016 tried to cheat, they got caught spying. Save your dignity democrat fan club pumpers, it's not a good look.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

Hillary Clinton lashes out at Donald Trump, Fox News over Durham probe: ‘Spinning up a fake scandal’ 

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#JustTheNews


She's upset!

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
11  Steve Ott    3 years ago

Special counsel John Durham has accused Michael Sussman, a lawyer for the Democratic party, of sharing with the CIA internet data purporting to show Russian-made phones being used in the vicinity of the White House complex. Durham coached the accusation in vague technical language in a court filing on Friday, saying that his office had found nothing to support Sussman’s alleged claim that the information shared with the CIA “demonstrated that Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations.”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

BREAKING: Durham already responded to Sussmann's motion to strike. Filing here : https:// courtlistener.com/docket/6039058


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Dulay
Professor Guide
13.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    3 years ago

That reads like a comedy skit. 

 
 

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