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The left seeks to cancel Carlson

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  2 years ago  •  232 comments

The left seeks to cancel Carlson
"Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years?" Carlson asked during a recent episode of his popular prime-time show.

Leftist media organizations of all kinds are going after Fox News resident Libertarian and what may be one of the most watched an influential cable news shows: "Tucker Carlson Tonight."

Take for instance the radical co-hosts of ABC's "The View," who slammed Carlson for a number of comments he has made in recent weeks about Vladimir Putin and suggested the host be investigated by the Department of Justice (DOJ) over them. "I think DOJ, in the same way that is setting up a task force to investigate Russian oligarchs, should look into people who are Russian propagandists and shilling for Putin," Ana Navarro said. " If you are a foreign asset to a dictator it should be investigated." 
Lead host Whoopie Goldberg , chimed in, saying, " they used to arrest people for doing stuff like this." 

Meanwhile the leftist creator of narratives "Mother Jones," released this unverified hit piece:


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/

As anyone can see it is a hit piece based on a reportedly leaked memo from the Kremlin that suggested it is "essential to use as much as possible fragments of broadcasts of the popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson," as part of its propaganda efforts during the invasion of Ukraine. Hum....What Hillary Clinton has started.....The Russia collusion lie that never dies.

We hear much the same from MSNBC and the all but gone CNN.



Those who have made appearances on Carlson's show have also faced criticism. Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has been on quite a bit lately. She has come under fire for questioning whether Ukraine is making chemical and biological weapons. Biden administration officials say Russian propagandists have used the theory as a pretext for a potential attack. 


The Daily Beast story is lighting up sites like Salon with the news that an accused Russian agent gave money to only one politician: Tulsi Gabbard.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/accused-russian-agent-elena-branson-gave-to-one-politician-tulsi-gabbard

You have to read on to learn that this breathtaking scoop amounted to 59 bucks.


It seems to me that Carlson's view is not that far from Biden's. Carlson fears we are heading for war with Russia and he wants to know why?  Biden absolutely fears war with Russia to the point of denying warplanes to the Ukraine and twice delaying arms shipments to the Ukraine out of fear of provoking Putin.


As somebody famous said to me, right here on NT, it's all about free speech. 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

It's for our readers to be the judge, whether you agree with Carlson or not, does he have the right to express his views?

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devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago

oh yeah, it sure sounds like he's just joking...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago

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devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    2 years ago

da, comrade!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    2 years ago

Ya!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    2 years ago

"I think DOJ, in the same way that is setting up a task force to investigate Russian oligarchs, should look into people who are Russian propagandists and shilling for Putin," Ana Navarro said. " If you are a foreign asset to a dictator it should be investigated." 

I agree.

Tucker and Faux news should be investigated.  They are obvious Russian propagandists and shilling for Putin.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 years ago
shilling for Putin.

How so?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 years ago

Tucker Carlson:

“Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia?!” Carlson said. “And I’m serious. Why do I care? Why shouldn’t I root for Russia? Which I am.”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.1    2 years ago

You forgot the link.

Is it because you don't want us to see this:

Carlson later said he was joking

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    2 years ago

Planned convenient omission.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.3    2 years ago

A fatal mistake. I also read that article.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    2 years ago

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Keep your hands out of the cookie jar!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    2 years ago

Carlson later said he was joking

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Dulay
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2.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    2 years ago
You forgot the link.

Actually, I didn't. 

Is it because you don't want us to see this:
Carlson later said he was joking

How fucking convenient. 

So I'm  sure you will accept that same lame excuse from everyone that you decry for the statements they make. /s

Oh and BTFW Vic, you didn't deny that I quoted Carlson, you just want me to hold him to a special snowflake standard. 

Carlson is undeserving of concessions. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.8  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    2 years ago
Carlson later said he was joking

When politicians get caught in an outrageous statement, or merely a lie, they use many excuses. But that one is actually relatively uncommon.

But there is one politician who used it frequently when he went a bit too far in his childish histrionics.

And that was Trump. (Probably where carlson got the idea from).

But hey-- next time you get a ticket on NT, why don't you try this: tell the mod to remove the ticket because you were "only joking"!

It may or may not work-- but ya never know (certainly worth a try jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.9  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 years ago
How so?

I never though you'd ask!

Here's how:

The Kremlin pays billions for their Putin propaganda

But why should they?

Tucker Carlson does it for free.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 years ago
Tucker and Faux news should be investigated.

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Krishna
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2.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.3    2 years ago
Tucker and Faux news should be investigated.

Are you implying that Faux News may be living rent free in Tucker Carlson's head?

(Well, what's left of it..)

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @2.3.1    2 years ago

No, I never said that

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    2 years ago

"As anyone can see it is a hit piece based on a reportedly leaked memo"

How can 'anyone' see this?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 years ago

By reading the MJ article I linked to it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

I read the 'article'.  Don't see it.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    2 years ago
I read the 'article'.  Don't see it.  

Then let me help...Did you see this: The source said memos like this one have been regularly sent by Putin’s administration ????

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    2 years ago

You couldn't possibly help me in any way, shape, or form.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    2 years ago

Me and mine?

Since you don't need help, I therefore have questions, starting with: If the U.S. government confirmed there are biolabs in Ukraine, why would Tulsi Gabbard be called a traitor for saying the same thing?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 years ago
If the U.S. government confirmed there are biolabs in Ukraine, why would Tulsi Gabbard be called a traitor for saying the same thing?

Because it's gaslighting, which you pretended to decry in a recent seed. 

A 'biolab' is NOT a 'biological weapons facility'. 

Note: I do not hold with calling Gabbard a traitor because my standard is the legal definition. I would characterize her as a moron who Carlson uses as a tool to help him spread his BS. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @3.1.5    2 years ago

Bull Shitters don't provide links!

Some get caught!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @3.1.5    2 years ago

Thanks Duly for the truth and the facts, as usual!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    2 years ago

See Della, there's the very next sentence in the article

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Vic Eldred
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3.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.7    2 years ago
Thanks Duly for the truth and the facts, as usual!

Her screen name is Dulay.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    2 years ago

But you provide links sometimes!  Even though they never claim what you state they do.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    2 years ago
Bull Shitters don't provide links!

Some get caught!

WTF are you babbling about Vic? 

Is it your posit that biolabs ARE the same as biological weapons facilities? If so, please provide a link. 

From your seed:

Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has been on quite a bit lately. She has come under fire for questioning whether Ukraine is making chemical and biological weapons

Your comment is an utter failure, sadly, your cheerleaders are too gaslighted to notice. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.14  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago
By reading the MJ article I linked to it.

Just by reading it?

Well, probably a good way to avoid carpal Tunnel Syndrome!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.15  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 years ago
If the U.S. government confirmed there are biolabs in Ukraine, why would Tulsi Gabbard be called a traitor for saying the same thing?

She didn't say the same thing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @3.1.13    2 years ago
"Your comment is an utter failure, sadly, your cheerleaders are too gaslighted to notice."

I consider them members of my fan club.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4  Tessylo    2 years ago

"The Left Seeks To Cancel Carlson"

How so?

By rightly calling for him to be investigated?

How is that cancelling Fucker?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4    2 years ago

Investigated for what exactly? Please be specific.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    2 years ago

Well, they wanted Trump investigated for mean tweets maybe they want Tucker investigated for going from a bow tie to a regular tie.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.1    2 years ago
Well, they wanted Trump investigated for mean tweets

Only people who grovel before Trump think he was "only" investigated for "mean tweets". So much for your alleged independence. Keep it going. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 years ago

Tell us John, what the fuck was he investigated for?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    2 years ago
Tell us John, what the fuck was he investigated for?

No Vic, I am not going to indulge your bullshit.   You can google or bing what he was investigated for. It might keep you out of mischief for a while. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.1    2 years ago

That's why they investigated whatshisname???????

Typical deflection, projection, and denial.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    2 years ago

LMAO!

Oh, it's been a great morning!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.6    2 years ago

Yes, yes it has 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.5    2 years ago
Typical deflection, projection, and denial.

That's the best you can do?  

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.11  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.6    2 years ago
Oh, it's been a great morning!

Nice to see at least a few people here have a positive attitude!

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.12  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.1    2 years ago
Tucker investigated for going from a bow tie to a regular tie.   

So now Tucker is living rent free in your head?

How droll!

How very droll!

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.2  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @4    2 years ago

Cancelling far right-wing fascism should be every-bodies goal. 

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    2 years ago

What does Tucker expect as Putin's Puppet? A parade? original

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5    2 years ago

How cute. When all else fails......................Photoshop. SMMFH

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5    2 years ago

Oh it's picture time for those without an argument!

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2    2 years ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5.2.1    2 years ago

That's right and I'm way ahead of her, as you can see.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.2    2 years ago

This is how Putin's Appololgists are looking...

original

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.3  Krishna  replied to  JBB @5    2 years ago

A parade?

384

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6  Tessylo    2 years ago

I'd trust Mother Jones over Tucker and Faux news ANY DAY.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @6    2 years ago
I'd trust Mother Jones

Now that explains alot

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

I'm glad you said after.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 years ago

Yep jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Self awareness isn't expensive yet some still can't seem to afford it. LMAO

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1    2 years ago

I'm still waiting for anyone to defend the Leaked Kremlin memo

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    2 years ago

Who cares unless they are inside the Kremlin?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @7.1.2    2 years ago

I didn't think you cared.

Many of don't believe rumors.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    2 years ago
I'm still waiting for anyone to defend the Leaked Kremlin memo

No need to wait-- you can google it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 years ago

It's a good thing she had time to change it  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3    2 years ago

That's what credible people due when they make an error, they correct it.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.1    2 years ago

I can't wait to meet them.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.3.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.1    2 years ago
That's what credible people due when they make an error, they correct it

Correct away..........................

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.2    2 years ago

You won't find them, other than me, Dulay, and jbb, here.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.3.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.4    2 years ago

I'm sure other people make mistakes too!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.5    2 years ago

You know I meant the credible ones.  You're excluded.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.3.7  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.2    2 years ago
I can't wait to meet them.

No need to wait you can google them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  author  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

I'd say Carlson has them biting with little bait....they are in a frenzy....

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Krishna
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8.1  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    2 years ago
I'd say Carlson has them biting with little bait....they are in a frenzy....

You forgot to mention the bit about living rent free in their heads...

That would be quite droll...yes, so very droll!

 
 
 
JBB
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9  JBB    2 years ago

The far hard American rightwing's parroting of Anti-American Russian war propaganda is blowing up in Fox New's guilty faces. The worldwide free press is agog that Tucker Carlson is all in as Vlad Putin's Puppet!

I say far hard right because they are on the fringes...

Rank-n-file Republican are repulsed by those tuckers!

I meant fuckers. Though they are now synonymous!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @9    2 years ago

Carlson is a Libertarian and his views are his own.

Hillary Clinton once financed a lie. The feeble minded still believe it.

 
 
 
JBB
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9.1.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    2 years ago

That is the, "Lamest Comment I Ever Read!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @9.1.1    2 years ago

Lamest must be Latin for accurate.

 
 
 
JBB
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9.1.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.2    2 years ago

Axis Annie had excuses too. She got 30 years!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    2 years ago

Hillary Clinton once financed a lie. The feeble minded still believe it.

She was just joking. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1.6  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    2 years ago
Carlson is a Libertarian and his views are his own.

Nope.

He's merely mimicking Putin.

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1.7  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.2    2 years ago
Lamest must be Latin for accurate.

Look, don't laugh at him.

He is only joking!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10  JohnRussell    2 years ago

I think you are losing it Vic. I would suggest stopping the original articles and concentrate on seeding articles written by someone else. Its getting embarrassing. 

Does Tuckio Rose Carlson deserve freedom of speech, you ask. He already has it. 

The question is not freedom of speech, it is accountability for a traitorous media personality. He doesnt deserve to go prison, but he does deserve all the criticism America can muster. 

 
 
 
JBB
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10.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 years ago

Take a peek outside his bubble he'll see he bombed.

America's Putin Apologists are Modern Axis Annies.

What they are pushing would make Tokyo Rose gag!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 years ago
I think you are losing it Vic.

So you've been saying.


I would suggest stopping the original articles and concentrate on seeding articles written by someone else.

Look what has come of it - we now have a very good writer starting to write articles - many of those articles promote your point of view.


Its getting embarrassing. 

You mean for those who lack a reasoned response?


Does Tuckio Rose Carlson deserve freedom of speech, you ask. He already has it. 

Is it in jeopardy?  Honest answer.


The question is not freedom of speech, it is accountability for a traitorous media personality.

The only quisling I know of refused to give Ukraine the warplanes they requested.

 
 
 
JBB
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10.2.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.2    2 years ago

What do Americans call liars spreading Putin's Russian war propaganda on social media?

..."Modern Day Tokyo Roses and Axis Annies"...

If you do not like it do not be it - Don Leo Nardo

 
 
 
Hallux
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10.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.2    2 years ago
The only quisling I know of refused to give Ukraine the warplanes they requested.

Had that 'quisling' gave them planes you would be trashing him for having done so. You are on a quacking gosling mission after all. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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10.4  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 years ago
I think you are losing it Vic.

Losing it?

What make you so certain he had it in the first place?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11  JohnRussell    2 years ago

The premise of this article as written is kind of ridiculous. The article takes the position that Tuckio Rose Carlson is in danger of losing his freedom of speech because the "left" (The View is the left now evidently) is openly criticizing him and suggesting he should be investigated. 

Lets get real, Tuckio Rose Carlson's existence as a right wing media star is predicated on him attacking his political opponents and calling for them to be investigated and punished. 

All thats happening to him is he is reaping what he has sown for years. The panel of The View and Mother Jones have "freedom of speech" too. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @11    2 years ago
The panel of The View and Mother Jones have "freedom of speech" too. 

It seems they have a good deal more than that. They represent the prevailing, majority view of America's dishonest media.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1    2 years ago

It is Faux news and other 'right' news sources that are the dishonest media here.

 
 
 
Krishna
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11.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1    2 years ago
America's dishonest media.

So now the "media" is living rent free in your head?

 
 
 
Dulay
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11.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1    2 years ago
It seems they have a good deal more than that. They represent the prevailing, majority view of America's dishonest media.

That's ridiculous Vic. 

Just because of the majority doesn't share your POV doesn't mean you don't enjoy free speech.

That's proven by your daily seeds right here on NT. 

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @11    2 years ago

American Axis Annie got 30 years in federal prison!

Tokyo Rose was "Most Hated Women in the World".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @11.2    2 years ago

And what did Jane Fonda get?

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Ronin2
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11.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.2.1    2 years ago

The adoration of leftist loons everywhere.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @11.2.2    2 years ago

It was all allowed!

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.2.1    2 years ago

She got vilified for the next sixty years, so far.

Tokyo Rose, don't confuse with Tuckyo Rose...

original

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.6  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.5    2 years ago

Same people hate Anti-American propaganda!

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.8  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.7    2 years ago

So? You being unsure is nothing new...

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.10  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.9    2 years ago

So what? Does that make you more special? 

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.12  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.11    2 years ago

How could that comment could be lamer?

Don't even try. You already outdid yourself!

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.14  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.13    2 years ago

Keep trying...

 
 
 
JBB
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11.2.16  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.15    2 years ago

How petty...

 
 
 
Krishna
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11.2.18  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.5    2 years ago
Sane people would never make that idiotic mistake.

And for that matter, idiotic people would never make that sane mistake!

 
 
 
evilone
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12  evilone    2 years ago
...it's all about free speech. 

What's the point here, free speech for Carlson, but not for the other media personalities calling him out? Anyway this article confuses (on purpose?) how the 1st Amendment applies. The law says the GOVERNMENT can't curtail political speech and doesn't mention The View or The Daily Beast at all. Anyway these media entities listed including Carlson are nothing more than part of, what I call, the outrage machine. They exist only to piss people off. Obviously that's working. 

Everyone would be better off if they turned all these shows off and went for a walk.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @12    2 years ago
Anyway this article confuses (on purpose?) how the 1st Amendment applies. The law says the GOVERNMENT can't curtail political speech and doesn't mention The View or The Daily Beast at all.

It wasn't so confined during the late 60's, was it?

 
 
 
JBB
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12.1.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1    2 years ago

We cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. Free speech has limits. Limits Carlson has crossed.

 
 
 
evilone
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12.1.2  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1    2 years ago
It wasn't so confined during the late 60's, was it?

You'll have to be more specific to make a point here if you have one.

 
 
 
evilone
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12.1.3  evilone  replied to  JBB @12.1.1    2 years ago
We cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. Free speech has limits. Limits Carlson has crossed.

He has not crossed any free speech limits. There is no law saying Carlson can't be a dick and no law saying others can't call him one.

OMG! The hyperbolic nonsense on this article (both sides) is pretty high. 

 
 
 
JBB
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12.1.4  JBB  replied to  evilone @12.1.3    2 years ago

He is giving aid and comfort to our enemy.

He is giving Putin excuses for bioweapons.

If he is smart he will see he is at that line...

Fox certainly had cause to cancel his show!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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12.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @12.1.4    2 years ago

Dream on and WOW what a twist....................

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @12.1.1    2 years ago
"We cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. Free speech has limits. Limits Carlson has crossed."

How so?  What limits? Be specific

 
 
 
evilone
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12.1.7  evilone  replied to  JBB @12.1.4    2 years ago
He is giving aid and comfort to our enemy.

It's political propaganda, the same as The Daily Beast. If one is protected they are all protected. You and Vic are making the same incorrect argument.

Fox certainly had cause to cancel his show!

Good luck. As a private business they can do as they see fit, but I though I read it's the highest rated show on Fox News these days. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  evilone @12.1.3    2 years ago

Certain posters provide comedic relief on a daily basis

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @12.1.8    2 years ago

Just not the ones you think

 
 
 
Hallux
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12.1.10  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1    2 years ago
It wasn't so confined during the late 60's, was it?

So what happened 50+ years ago is open to discussion but 5+ years ago is not ...

and the painted ponies go up and down,

we're captured on Vic's carousel of time.

(apol. to Ms. Mitchell)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @12.1.2    2 years ago

Post 11.2.1

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @12.1.10    2 years ago

You're captured by your own ideology.

 
 
 
Hallux
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12.1.13  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.12    2 years ago

I dumped 'my' ideology after reading B. Traven in my late teens. You should try some.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @12.1.13    2 years ago

I don't think so.

 
 
 
evilone
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12.1.16  evilone  replied to  Hallux @12.1.10    2 years ago
So what happened 50+ years ago is open to discussion but 5+ years ago is not ...

He's never going to give us a straight answer.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @12.1.8    2 years ago
Certain posters provide comedic relief on a daily basis

And some are just boring beating the same drum every day, Liberals....Good.  Everyone else...Bad.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @12.1.16    2 years ago
He's never going to give us a straight answer.

Go get your elders....I'll give them an answer.

students-marching-on-the-state-capitol-515575610-5af07bf404d1cf0037008afb.jpg

 
 
 
Hallux
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12.1.19  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.17    2 years ago

What are you doing that is different?

 
 
 
Hallux
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12.1.21  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.14    2 years ago

Your loss, Traven is a great author.

 
 
 
Krishna
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12.1.23  Krishna  replied to  evilone @12.1.3    2 years ago
The hyperbolic nonsense on this article (both sides) is pretty high. 

Hyperbolic nonsense?

Is that anything like incredible stupidity?

(Or is it oerhaps even worse?)

So many pixels must be crying tonight...

 
 
 
JBB
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12.2  JBB  replied to  evilone @12    2 years ago

Fox News could be declared a US Public Menace!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @12.2    2 years ago

Seriously?  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JBB
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12.2.4  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @12.2.1    2 years ago

Absolutely! Why Not? "Giving Aid To Enemies".

 
 
 
Krishna
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12.2.6  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.5    2 years ago
"Giving Aid To Enemies".

Is that anything like giving coals to Newcastle?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

It is kind of amusing.  I am not a fan of Tucker and therefore I do not watch him.  That would mean the only way I hear about what he does or does not say/mean with regards to any issue is what others seem to be wanting to make me believe is the truth based on their interpretations and context (or lack of context).  I have to wonder how many people screaming for his head actually watch alot of his shows or just listen to people tell them what they should think about what he says and believe it due to some preconceived notion.  I also wonder if they don't have an axe to grind with Tucker since his ratings would dictate he is cleaning their clocks on a regular basis.

The fact that Russia might take what someone says out of context to make people believe their propaganda should come as  no surprise.  

As for me I don't watch him so I have no opinion on if he is sympathetic toward Russia.  What I do believe is he has first amendment rights and if people don't like it they can watch something else.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @13    2 years ago

Nowadays one doesnt have to watch a show to get a good understanding of what it is. There are many many clips of every show, which are everywhere and readily available, if not foisted on people who consume news every day. 

I think Tucker Carlson is better when he is taken out of context, btw. His context is white grievance and racial animosity so its better to get him out of his context. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    2 years ago

All I can say is WOW!

 
 
 
Hallux
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13.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1.1    2 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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13.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    2 years ago

That may very well be the most ridiculous thing you have ever said, and that is saying alot.

By your logic Joy Reid (I have seen clips)is a raving racist who hates all white people and does nothing but spread hate every day.  Oh wait.....................

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1.1    2 years ago

Wow is right

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1.1    2 years ago

It might be nice if that was all you said. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.5    2 years ago

Ahhh....   Wouldn't it?   


 
 
 
Hallux
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13.2  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @13    2 years ago
I also wonder if they don't have an axe to grind with Tucker since his ratings would dictate he is cleaning their clocks on a regular basis.

Tucker appears to be following 'The Apprentice' model of maintaining popularity by being even more outrageous with each successive season. He has become the Man Bites Dog story replete with staged constipated grimaces.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @13.2    2 years ago

If one is always outrageous, it loses the shock appeal and thus, Carlson would be losing his large audience. It's not happening.

How come?

 
 
 
Hallux
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13.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.1    2 years ago

Give him another year or so ... I have a feeling that his last words will be "rosebud". In other stories, I note petrocks have become a big seller again.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @13.2    2 years ago

Some morons believe that high ratings equates with veracity!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @13.2.3    2 years ago
13 RDTC "It is kind of amusing.  I am not a fan of Tucker and therefore I do not watch him.  That would mean the only way I hear about what he does or does not say/mean with regards to any issue is what others seem to be wanting to make me believe is the truth based on their interpretations and context (or lack of context).  I have to wonder how many people screaming for his head actually watch alot of his shows or just listen to people tell them what they should think about what he says and believe it due to some preconceived notion.  I also wonder if they don't have an axe to grind with Tucker since his ratings would dictate he is cleaning their clocks on a regular basis."

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.2.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @13.2    2 years ago

It goes all the way back to Howard Stern and has shown it is effective.  I think the grimace is pretty standard for all news people so the person they are talking to thinks they are listening to what they are saying.  The amount of hours they must spend in front of the mirror perfecting that look is probably pretty sad.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.2.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.6    2 years ago

FACTS?  The left don't need no stinking FACTS, they just make up "facts" as they go along.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.2.8    2 years ago

Again with the projection!

 
 
 
JBB
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13.2.11  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.10    2 years ago

These are facts. Russian TV is running a loop of Lying Tucker Carlson saying the USA operates illegal bioweapons labs inside Ukraine. The only reason for that is giving Vlad Putin cover at home with the Russians for him using chemical and biological weapons against the Ukrainian cities. You got sny problem with those facts?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.10    2 years ago
Got any FACTS?

You're setting that bar kind of high aren't you?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.2.9    2 years ago

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQViS3nlxR-5i12_NIt8pGWx2AoGWKTrybTA&usqp=CAU

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.2.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.10    2 years ago

You never know although that would be a first.

 
 
 
Krishna
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13.2.18  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.1    2 years ago
If one is always outrageous, it loses the shock appeal and thus, Carlson would be losing his large audience

That comment makes absolutely no sense at all.

Can you re-phase it in common English?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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13.2.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @13.2.11    2 years ago

Bullshit. Prove that they are running a loop. You keep typing that and have no proof. Quit spreading mis/dis information. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @13.2.11    2 years ago

We know that's true jbb.

 
 
 
JBB
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13.2.21  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @13.2.19    2 years ago

Can you see pyramids from that river in Egypt?

 
 
 
JBB
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13.2.22  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @13.2.20    2 years ago

Yes, it has been widely reported in the news.

Those in the rightwing bubble know nothing.

They look foolish denying well known facts!

I bet they get Brownie Points from Trumpo.

Brown Berets, Brown Shirts, Brown Noses...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.2.23  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @13.2.22    2 years ago

Ya!  Some kind of alternate universe/Bizarro World.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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13.2.24  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @13.2.21    2 years ago

So you got nothing except deflection..............noted. If it's been widely reported in the news (suspected lie to fill the narrative) you should easily be able to post one of those widely reported videos/articles. But it's not so you can't. Maybe you two girls should pool your wisdom and come up with one.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @13    2 years ago
It is kind of amusing.  I am not a fan of Tucker and therefore I do not watch him. 

I'm the same.  I haven't watched any mass media on anything in a few years.  The main source of what I hear about Carlson is usually coming from a freak out piece from the left on here.  Seems the bulk of Fox viewers are the very people who cry and complain about them.

Given that I don't watch Fox, or any other idiot voices I can't say for sure that he's a sympathizer or not.  There's a very good chance that the whole thing is based on cherry picked segments to fit a specific narrative.  Wouldn't be the first time.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @13.3    2 years ago

Agree.  It is funny that people seem to think Putin need Tucker to be able to keep his propaganda machine rolling.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @13.3    2 years ago
I haven't watched any mass media on anything in a few years.

I assume then that your "sources" are mainly crackpot conspiracy sites. 

You give yourself away. If you dont have any information about Tucker Carlson and dont watch or read common news sources, what are you doing giving opinions on the news on sites like Newstalkers ? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @13.3.2    2 years ago
I assume then that your "sources" are mainly crackpot conspiracy sites

Your seeds actually.  

You give yourself away. If you dont have any information about Tucker Carlson and dont watch or read common news sources, what are you doing giving opinions on the news on sites like Newstalkers ?

And where does it state I have to utilize mass media outlets?  I'm not permitted to use local news?  If that's restricted please direct me to the exact line in the CoC or ToS.

 
 
 
Krishna
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13.4  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @13    2 years ago
It is kind of amusing. 

No its not.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @13.4    2 years ago

Sure it is.

 
 

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