Hunter Biden's Laptop Is Finally News Fit to Print - WSJ
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Talk about burying the lead—for 17 months. The New York Times has finally acknowledged that Hunter Biden's business dealings are legitimate news. Implicit apology accepted.
The Times waddled in this week with a story on the "tax affairs" of the President's son, including this gem in the 24th paragraph: "Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation."
You don’t say. This admission comes six months after a Politico writer published a book that also confirmed that the laptop emails were authentic. But the original scoop belonged to the New York Post, which broke its laptop story in October 2020—only to meet a media wall of denial and distortion.
Rather than attempt to confirm the emails, nearly all of the media at the time ignored the story or “fact-checked” it as false. This in-kind contribution to candidate Joe Biden was all the more egregious given other evidence supporting the Post’s scoop. Neither Hunter Biden nor the Biden campaign denied that the laptop was Hunter’s. And Hunter’s former business partner, Tony Bobulinski, went public with documents backing up some of the laptop’s contents.
The herd of media conformists also echoed the speculation of obviously partisan “intelligence officials.” Some 50 of these officials—headlined by former Obama spooks James Clapper and John Brennan —circulated a statement peddling the Russian “disinformation” line—even as they admitted they had no evidence.
This result was a blackout of the Hunter news, except in a few places, including these pages. Twitter blocked the Post’s account for nearly two weeks, and Facebook used algorithms to quash the story. This deprived voters of information they might have wanted to know before Election Day.
There’s more for our reborn media sleuths to investigate. Mr. Bobulinski provided these pages with documents showing Hunter was looking to use the Biden name to profit from a business deal with a Shanghai-based company with ties to the Chinese government.
One May 2017 “expectations” email from Hunter associate James Gilliar shows Hunter receiving 20% of the equity in the venture, with another “10 held by H for the big guy.” Mr. Bobulinski says the “big guy” is Joe Biden. To this day the Bidens have not had to explain their business arrangement.
The emails make clear that Hunter was cashing in on the Biden name, including as a board member of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company. That influence-peddling was a potential political liability for Mr. Biden, which was why the facts deserved an airing before the election. They are still relevant, especially with U.S.-China relations so fraught.
The Times won a Pulitzer prize for pushing the Russia collusion narrative, which proved to be much ado about nothing. The New York Post deserves a Pulitzer, but it will probably have to settle for well-earned vindication.
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The Editorial Board said it all....It had to be posted.
I can't help thinking why the Times decided to admit the truth now? Are they getting leaks from the Hunter investigation that is almost 2 years old without an indictment yet?
Who can can forget Leslie Stahl's condescending arrogance or Chris Wallace cutting off Trump when he brought it up in the debates or Jen Psaki among many who followed calling it Russian disinformation?
The dirty dealings of the Biden crime family need to be exposed to the light of day.
I think we'll have to wait until 2024, when old Joe is gone before we see an indictment. That's the way the two tiered system works.
Just because they are criminals doesn't mean they don't deserve special treatment. They have the all important D behind their name.
Anyone think Hunter, or anyone in the Biden family, will serve any real time? This is going to be a slap on the wrist; and maybe some fines. Some of them might even be stiff; but not too stiff. Wouldn't want the Bidens to feel like they are being shafted.
Can you articulate what those crimes were?
It really is hilarious how some sad conservatives try desperately to imagine the Biden family as some criminal enterprise while completely ignoring the quite obvious correlation between the Trump family and organized crime. Trump is a wannabe mob boss, Biden is a grandpa rational humans with an ounce of empathy hope navigates the stairs well enough to avoid a potentially dangerous fall. Sure, some worthless piece of shit right wing fascists wish we had a deplorable mob boss as President, to them that's strength, and they'll do whatever they can to accomplish this goal, the law and constitution be damned. But it's beyond stupid to try and pretend that Biden and his family are some criminal cabal in cahoots with some shadow "deep state". That kind of thinking is laughably insane, but sadly, there are millions of brainless conservatives who think that's actually a thing like they believe lizard alien Democrats are running child sex rings and eat babies. It's kind to call them confused, the reality is they're all fucking insane.
It is even worse than that (and that truth you shared is pretty damning)! It is the dangerous game of 'crafting an exclusionary world.' A "John Galt" world of Ann Rand comes to mind as an alternative space where conservatives can go in their head-space and live out loud and govern for themselves alone. They are doing it now in real time. They have and are setting themselves apart from liberals, developmentally.
Remember the faddish, Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus, book on relationships? The men and women can't be friends, because of the dominator/helper principle of life? Compare that to what we see in conservative versus liberal "combat" today. We are lapsed into a new era of socio-political activity where some conservatives see us as "tree-huggers and sheeple" and some liberals see them as 'grunts and brutes.'
In this era, we pull apart and become two distinct "political animals" bearing fangs and claws with each one possessing the ability to injure (but not destroy) the other. The real fall-out from all of it will be the tremendous waste of time in years where battles are waged and lives are squandered and half-baked to the point of realization it is all meaningless. We simply forget that we are all the same, and one day will remember that these faux walls conservatives (in this case) are putting up must come down so we can properly grow as a diverse people to meet the challenges of the 'stalled' world of tomorrow.
#45 is and always will be a thug - along with his entire 'presidency' and criminal organization enterprise of an administration.
And here I thought I'd get further down the comments before I see a pathetic deflection to Trump.
I'd recommend we add "TRIGGER WARNING" to give them a moment to get their pacifiers or just move on before reading but that ruins the fun.
Like Biden...nothing coherent.
Remarkably dense. We need a vote
buttton badly now!
True.
Wait. Was I supposed to give a shit about what you think?
Jeremy, why not? Please be plain and clear when you reply, please.
Donald Trump is not "special" and I will mention him anytime I feel the situation calls for it. Some conservatives have no power over this.
I'll use smaller words just so you can understand.
Most people call that trolling. Something we've come to expect from the left.
Is that an explanation or are you stalling?
“I'll use smaller words just so you can understand.”
Perfect for those that are limited to bumper-sticker sloganeering.
Let’s “lock her up”, “build the wall”, “stop the steal”, etc. etc. ad nauseam.
Ah, an unveiled insult intended to provoke a response.
Yes, most people would call that trolling.
Wait, what? You just provided a perfect example of troll behavior then try and fling the blame at your opponent? Oh, wait, I see it now, that's just another perfect example of troll behavior.
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Hunter Biden's laptop. Was it illegal? Did he steal it from someone? What is on the laptop that would prove to be incriminating? Could it be possible that considering the individual involved, that his possession of a laptop for his personal or business use could be construed as a crime in itself?
What if Hunter got drunk and wrote an email?
And then absolutely nothing ever became of it.
If you are curious; here.
Yes, that prosecutor was a corrupt crony of the former Russian backed government that the Obama Administration helped Ukraine cast off. None of which was related to Hunter Biden. Joe Biden's tax returns are public so proving he illegally enriched himself should be easy, if he did. So, please do go on...
The rest is just business. There is no law making it criminal for the friends and family of elected officials to profit from proximity to power as long as it does not involve them actually engaging in criminal activities.
Democrats try to pass more stringent ethics laws but the gop has unanimously blocked them. We could stop profiteering like Ivanka Trump, Jenny Thomas, the Romney boys and Hunter have all engaged in but the gop has no stomach for any of that...
Let's see if we can get an honest answer.
Would you say the same above if the name in the seed or under investigation was named Donald Trump Jr or Eric Trump.
Hell no you wouldn't. You and the triggered leftist society would be going batshit crazy demanding anything named Trump be put in prison, sans a trial.
Most Americans know how loon leftists think.
You cannot speak for me. My view is that if crimes are committed they should be prosecuted no matter who, including Presidents. Serious financial crimes are alleged against Trump and Co. From what I can tell no criminal allegations are pending against President Biden. You got any? Making money legally is not a crime even when it is a Democrat. I do support stronger ethics laws, but the gop is not having any of that. M'kay?
So what. MAGA fart brain gave away Israeli secrets to the Russians in the Oval Office four days after taking office.
Your point would be.............what? Ivanka's Chinese patents? What is your point?
Donald Trump was a 'perfect' asshole. The 'assiest, tartest, assholes in the lineage of assholes and worse—he likes the status. Thus, the sh*t he put and puts out accumulates and does not dissipate or ameliorate. Moreover, there is the problem of his acolytes who fall on their swords for him, and his enablers who are equally ambitious and diabolical, doing him more harm than good when they won't let him experience failure. (Trump's "peep" covering for his warty personality is equal parts "saving" him as it is "condemning" him.)
This allegation has been repeatedly debunked , which is probably why almost no one in mainstream media is carrying much about the "laptop scandal" today. Come up with some misconduct that does not involve Joe Biden pressuring officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating Hunter's employer. That story is not accurate.
I say it is time to ask questions and to hold people accountable:
Yet oppose January 6th investigation? Right?
I'm not letting the Times (or any of the others) off the hook until we see this:
What crimes do you alleged were committed?
Last I checked, owning a laptop is not illegal...
I'm sure they read this comment and are now shaking in their boots.
Have I alleged crimes were committed?
What is the point here? You can't see it or you don't want to?
The day I hear you call the multitude of vicious comments about Trump and his family "childish" is the day we can have a discussion. Until then it all gets filed under "free speech."
Doesn't make "Let's Go Brandon" less childish. But hey, if that's the road you want to take...
That story was covered but no there there.
Unlike this real headline the NYT ran, twice...
Yea because Orange Man Bad was just as much adult talk as Let's go Brandon s/
The road I'm on leads straight to the midterm elections.
Ever feel like you're in Peewee's Playhouse?
Too funny. The National Enquirer is more reputable than the New York Post.
Pace University found NYP to be the least factual, with sensationalized headlines,
dubious journalistic practices, partisan bias and suffered undue influence from it's
owners in 2004.
Jump forward to the present under the ownership of Rupert Murdoch and the reputation
of the Post is unchanged. Yet like Fox, the NYP has a huge circulation.
It seems that more people want to be entertained than educated...
You're wrong on both counts.
The story was censured by the media during the election
and
There is an investigation going on, so how do you figure there is nothing there?
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The Post certainly got the Hunter Biden story right. They stood tall on that.
You like the fact the story was censored during an election? I'm just trying to understand how you think.
The only people I see or hear saying "orange man bad" are Trump supporters who don't care to consider legitimate criticisms of Trump.
You know, the same people whining about the story of a laptop being censored (despite pretty much everybody knowing about it, because it actually was reported), with Hunter (not on the ballot, not participating in government) using political connections to his own benefit, but ignoring Ivanka (not on the ballot, but DID participate in government) doing the same regarding trademarks in China (how America First is that?).
Or folks who complain about election fraud and insist that the 2020 election was stolen, but ignore the fact that Donald Trump, Jr. solicited campaign funds from overseas.
Members of parliament in the UK, Iceland, Canada and Australia have reported that they are being inundated on their official government emails accounts with fund-raising pleas from the Trump campaign - some from the candidate himself and others from his sons....
despite such solicitations being illegal.
But yet....
The New York Post was the first to uncover this laptop and emails.
NYT,supposedly the torch bearer for news, covered it up, ignored it and called it Russian disinformation.
But here were are months later and the Sinking Old Lady finally reported something sane Americans knew long ago...
And you say the NYT is reputable.
Such bullshit.
More and more frequently.
The sad thing is, you really believe that if that stupid story was more widely covered that Biden would have lost.
This is no more than the election was rigged bullshit. Just a new angle.
... too bad that road is really an exit ramp for the radical fascist segment of the GOP.
Trump?
Are you aware of what this country is going through right now?
I'm trying to understand how you think.
I think it is a strong possibility. It was a close election.
Whether it did or not the American media for the most part did the country an injustice.
I don't have time to answer all the nonsense, but this stood out.
No one cares about Hunter Biden.
The fact that everybody that is sane has bene trying to tell the loon left that Biden has been lying about his knowledge of Hunter's business deals and...
He knows so much, he is the "Big Guy" when it came to receiving kickbacks from Hunter's businesses.
If this is true, we want Biden held responsible for taking bribes.
We all know that if the name Trump was the name in the story, you sure as hell would not have posted what I highlighted.
Quite the contrary,
Then how do we all know so much about it?
You act like it wasn't considered but it was...
Nothing about it that implicated Joe Biden!
It was Project Veritas, known for nonsense.
Nothing did or will ever come from it legally.
Because the election is long over. It's really simple.
If you were bothered by lies, bugsy, you'd be bothered by Trump's. Your outrage is extremely selective.
No matter what you say the stupid laptop was widely talked about.
You are grasping at straws to justify a trump loss.
Where did I say I didn't care about Trump lies?
Stop putting bullshit in my posts that does not exist.
The ridiculous comment of the day. Trump more than earned everything that was said about him.
Let us know what Project Veritas has reported on, ie, videoed people confessing to things that could be considered , at the lowest, unethical, and at the highest, illegal....
Is nonsense
No, I think I have the truth on my side. And it's been there since October of 2020.
And you are my number 1 example. You've been smearing Trump 24/7 for 6 years and I didn't hear someone call it "childish." Not once!
The biggest injustice was Trump not being impeached and removed for his lead role in denying timely aid to Ukraine AND trying to coerce the Ukrainian government into helping him investigate Joe Biden for political purposes. That activity alone is one of the most egregious (if not THE most egregious) breaches of ethics in presidential history.
Not by Fox, Alex Jones, Breitbart, the American Thinker and the usual rags like
the NYP which has the 6th largest circulation in the country.
How long has John Durham been investigating whatever it is he is investigating?
An ex FBI lawyer slapped on the wrist for leaving Post-its on official papers
and now pressing "misrepresentation" or "conflict of interest" charges from
2016?
How much time did Neil Bush serve for influence peddling under two
Presidents, a father and a brother?
Nothing.
Years of insider trading under 3 Bush Administrations?
Nothing.
He did get fined $50K for not giving a damn about the collapse of SilveradoS&L
and banned from the banking industry, but by then he could afford that
inconvenience as his net worth is around $50Million...
What's good for the Bush family will probably apply to the Biden family
regardless of your personal umbrage.
Here in reality John is accused of it daily...
Hard to see if everything is all about you!
I'm aware of what the country is going through now, and was aware of what it was going through during Trump's tenure. That is why I voted for Biden, despite having accepted that Hunter Biden was shady. Joe Biden has one shady kid, who doesn't have White House office space. Trump has 3 shady kids. Ivanka, in particular, along with her husband, had positions within the administration, for no reason other than that they were related to Trump. That's some pretty shady shit, right there, Vic. Any ethical person would know that.
I'm aware that Trump put this country through the Big Lie, and continues to do so. I'm aware that he is currently fleecing the more gullible among his supporters, begging them for money that he may or may not use for a campaign, and doesn't have to use for a campaign unless he declares his candidacy. Now he wants his supporters to buy him a new airplane. I wonder why he can't pay for that himself?
I'm aware he used charity money to buy items for his own personal use (a painting of himself), and that his university was deemed fraudulent, and that he made illegal "campaign donations" to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.
Why is the contribution in the news right now?
Last week, Trump paid a $2,500 penalty to the Internal Revenue Service and refunded his foundation $25,000 from his personal wealth because the Sept. 17, 2013, contribution violated tax laws, the Washington Post reported.
The check came from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a tax-exempt nonprofit barred from contributing to political causes. The check went to And Justice For All, a committee that was the fundraising arm for Bondi's re-election campaign — and undeniably political in nature.
The donation's dubious legality was obscured for years because of an accounting error at the Trump Organization, which reported to the IRS that it had given $25,000 to a Kansas anti-abortion group called Justice for All.
"It's an unfortunate series of coincidences and errors," Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks told the Times/Herald in March.
What's so controversial about this campaign contribution?
It's the chronology.
New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a lawsuit on Aug. 25, 2013, alleging that Trump University and its affiliates were "sham for-profit colleges" that ripped off 5,000 consumers.
A Sept. 14 Orlando Sentinel story noted that Schneiderman cited dozens of complaints filed with the Florida Attorney General's Office in 2008, two years before Bondi took office. In that story, a Bondi spokeswoman was quoted as saying Florida was reviewing the New York lawsuit.
Three days later, the Donald J. Trump Foundation, based in New York, made the $25,000 contribution.
Though there's no specific date, Bondi's office declined to pursue an investigation.
I'm aware that your outrage over Hunter Biden is a bit ridiculous, given your support of a family that has repeatedly engaged in fraud.
Last I heard that was all staged or setups...
LOL. I've never smeared Trump in my life, but I have told the truth about him a few times.
Your belief that Trump has been "smeared" is beyond ridiculous. Unfortunately your knowledge of Trump is confined to what you read or hear on right wing media. He is EASILY the most disgraceful figure any of us have seen in politics in our lifetimes.
No, you have what you think is some smoking gun, when that is not the case.
I await your article, or even a comment, condemning them.
You mean like providing blankets instead of weapons?
Oh, wait...
that wasn't Trump.
That was the loser that occupied the WH before him.
You keep saying it as if it was true, yet keep pointing out the the NYP
with the 6th largest circulation in the country carried it?
Wow, a sense of humor?
Twitter flagged the Post story and suspended anyone that tried to share it.
The story was censored.
Please Vic, no comedy. This is a serious topic.
That NY Post story contained a bunch of false accusations and speculative slanders that are nowhere to be found in The NYT reporting...
Vic says he has never seen you criticized...
He must only read comments by liberals!
Name them
I don't "do Twitter"
so it wasn't censored for me.
See how that works?
Millions were treated to daily stories on Fox news, the largest cable news
company and the NYP with the 6th largest circulation.
If I don't choose to read the national Enquirer or the UK Daily Record
that isn't censorship.
John, you bring up Trump in every single seed, no matter the topic.
Hell, someone could post a seed about their favorite flavor of ice cream, and you would find a way to insert your hatred for Trump.
I think Vic is delirious since this Hunter Biden story broke.
the primary problem was that george(?) regularly referred not to Hunter
but to "the Bidens" which is typical of yellow journalism.
Didn't ask if t was censored for YOU
See how that works?
But you can't prove it's wrong
So what?
Why let it "bug" you?
Why comment about it?
It changes nothing JR has done or will do.
And it has nothing to do with you, your life or quality of life.
To begin with that Joe Biden was trying to personally profit himself and Hunter when he was actually conducting official US business concerning sanctioned government policy aimed a removing corrupt Russian cronies.
Remember?
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So how can you prove that is wrong information?
Just because YOU don't believe it does not make it wrong.
John, I, nor anyone else, needs to debate you.
Let me show you how it works.
1. You post a post.
2. I, or someone else, debunks that post within minutes.
3. The end
I was shocked when I ran to catch the ice cream truck today and they had my favorite flavor - Donald Trump is a Fucking Moron Chocolate Vanilla Swirl.
Why are we not surprised by this idiocy?
To begin with, we have Biden's tax returns...
Look it up. You don't believe anything anyway!
You know this for a fact?
Just because left wing media tells you this does not make it true.
Quite the contrary
So post them
Nothing to do with believing anything.
Everything about being partial and looking at the partisanship of the source.
Most media leans far left.
I have really tried to communicate with you yet all we get are denials, insults, evasions and shade. I made my case but you, have not...
Do you own research. You might learn things.
A smear is not ipso facto childish:
Joe Biden's Tax Returns and Financial Disclosures | Joe Biden
2 minutes of searching
Oh the irony of believing the NYP, lol.
That is simply your opinion or your fear
neither of which are correct, in my opinion.
There's more than enough diversity of opinion and partisanship in this country.
Is there a there--there? Or is this another "hookers in the night?"
It can't do it. Doesn't have the 'Moxxi'.
I'm trying to understand how you think/s
Losing the popular vote by 3 million votes in 2016, but winning the EC by 77
votes is perfectly acceptable and has happened several times before.
Losing the popular vote by 8 million votes in 2020
and losing the EC by 74 votes is also acceptable
and not at all a close election.
The First Amendment is not an "injustice"...
and just because you believe it, does not make it correct.
Project Veritas is funded through the NY Mercer family who also launder money for Russian oligarchs.
You in on Ivanka's Chinese patents too?
So you want the party that will end Choice, birth control, voting rights, guns on every doorknob and all of the rest of the 'social issues'? Is that it?
And of course more corporate power?
You mean the party that believes in the Constitution, free enterprise, safe streets, secure borders and freedom of thought & speech.
Right now it's simply about getting the country out from under the mess caused by putting all the lefts insane idea's into practice. As I said you guys got your wish and you may never get power again
Vic, your party supports a President who called the press the "enemy of the people". It has absolutely no room to talk about freedom of speech and thought. Members of your party defended a violent attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. You don't get to do that and then call yourself the party of law and order.
Your party's support of Trump has caused you to embrace actions that oppose the ideals you claim to uphold.
Are you saying "all" Republicans support him? One of the great lessons of the 2020 election indicated that a lot of Republicans voted against him.
Members of your party defended a violent attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.
Proud Boys and other fringe groups are as much a part of my party as antifa & BLM is of yours.
Your party's support of Trump has caused you to embrace actions that oppose the ideals you claim to uphold.
It's no longer about Trump's words, it's now about Biden's actions.
Many Republicans support him, and party leadership has generally defended him.
Only if you hold Biden's actions to the same standards as you held Trump's. We aren't going to ignore Trump's words and actions, and Republican approval of them, just because you tell us to.
Yes, because Brandon's tax return has a section that says "Ten percent for the big guy".s/
You really can't believe Biden would report kick backs on his tax return, would you?
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So, let me get this straight...
The Post reports a story in October, 2020 about Hunter Biden's laptop and emails.
Every social media company censors the NYP story and suspends everyone that tried to share the story. The NYT writes the story off, like so many left wing rags, as Russian disinformation and ignored the story.
Fast forward to March 2022 and the NYT actually admits the Post was right.
But you still want to say the Post is disinformation.
I guess now you believe the Times is a right wing rag for daring to admit the Post was right.
You don't have to answer. I know I'm correct with every point.
Never said it does.
However, you sure are spending an inordinate amount of time backing JBB about his accusations.
And most high profile left wing loons are funded by the American hating communist George Soros.
What's your point?
Great all you have to do now is prove who "the big guy" is.
James Biden?
Joe Biden?
Petro Poroshenko?
Devon Archer
or
Christopher Heinz?
Xi or some Chinese cabinet member?
Social media, private companies with rules & terms of service are not held to the same standards that bona fide news agencies are supposed to held to. The right wing "rags" do it too.
The NYT admitted that the laptop is Hunter Bidens, it doesn't carry on about "the Bidens" or imply that Hunter, James and Joe are some sort of criminal cabal.
There's and old saying or two about how many times a day a broken clock is
correct. Congrats to the Post for being right about the laptop's ownership
and sticking to their guns as far as it being authentic.
All their colorful conjecture is still just journalistic worst case scenario
partisan wishfullness.
DEEEEEflection noted one more time LMMFAO
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Can you follow your creed and investigate without spending amassed sums of taxpayer's money; you know, the "conservative way" and all. I'm skeptical, there will be intentional savings when conservatives take charge of government. Thus, there are no "big people" anywhere. /s
And? Some conservatives have "Whataboutism" Biden (and son-thankfully he has only one for them to nibble on during 'dry spells') to keep them 'warm' during the winter months; spring months, and summer months.
Everyone with the slightest amount of intelligence knows it's Brandon.
Are you trying to tell us you have a slight amount of intelligence?
Actually he said "The slightest" not just slight!
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“Everyone with the slightest amount of intelligence knows it's Brandon.”
And anyone who uses ‘Brandon’ in any response, in any conversation, has willingly confused intelligence with intention.
So,
What I think you are trying to say is that these 6 highly successful hedge fund people signed a deal with
CEFC's Chairman or Vice Chair, and that same Chairman/VC
came up with a revised "renumeration" scheme in which Hunter ( presumably H)
would hold 10% "for the big guy", which you believe to have been Mr. Biden, a private citizen in March of 2017
and not the "Chairman" himself, because a kickback to the Chairman makes no sense at all in legitimate
or illegitimate international business schemes? /s
But you are more than willing to believe a partisan conspiracy theory that not only would
have been legal for Joe Biden to participate in,
but is somehow tied to the absolute knowledge in March of 2017
that the former Senator & Vice President would
A; run for POTUS
B: win the primary
C: win the Presidency
and the transactions would therefore have to be kept a secret?
That's the level of the intelligence of this "conspiracy theory"?
Really?
You're really going to take a ticket for questioning other peoples opinions?
While we are questioning your ducky theories,
how many black people in Hong Kong are responsible for the latest 4,000 people to die of COVID in the last two
weeks?
I am sure someone here is interested in another of your absolutely correct conspiracy "opinions". /s
So, the guy who used the term 'mediocre of intelligence' wants to set the standards for intelligence here.
Yes because it is much easier for the grammar nazi to swoop in and attack than it is for the same to refute anything that had been previously posted.
You started it, own it.
It seems that if I prove someone wrong on here, which I do [regularly,deleted]
That appears to be very debatable...
I would recommend several things because that judgement isn't yours to make.
A, take it to management and
B ask her to review your tickets, for what and by whom, for how many points etc.
C ask her to have a Mod of your choice review them
or try not to be so disagreeable and insulting with every comment?
Just a suggestion.
Again, the word you are looking for there is definition, NOT grammar.
That's another reason why trying to set yourself up as the intelligence nazi is so laughable.
That's a pretty fucking hypocritical since you just posted an attack instead of refuting what I posted, didn't you bugsy?
It's false. No debate whatsoever.
This discussion played out exactly as I would expect.
Left wing media lied. Left wing politicians lied. SupposedL non partisan intelligence officials lied. Accurate reporting was censored.
All in the middle of an election to protect joe Biden.
not onE liberal has a problem with it. All they do is deflect to but Trump, or even but Bush for whatever reason.
It goes to show that their complaints about Trump have nothing to do with anything other partisanship. They’d have no problem with Trump if he was for abortion on demand, open borders, reparations and having men compete on women’s sporting teams. it all about whether one had a d or an r next to their name
You have completely lost it.
If you think Hunter's laptop would have changed my vote, think again...
Some right wing conservatives apparently thought gobbling Hunter Biden laptop cock would choke voters, but the MSM refused to stuff laptop cock down Americans throats. Now conservatives are angry that they have throat damage from all the laptop thrusting while progressives and liberals seem unaffected which is pissing off some raspy throated conservatives. Of course they still haven't show why any rational human should give a flying fuck about the laptop, but they seem determined to keep choking on it.
While I have been watching the NCAA tournament the last few hours, I have also been looking at dozens of articles , web sites and newspapers , about Hunter Bidens laptop. I'm still looking for a story that goes past the mere fact that a laptop exists and tells us exactly what the scandal allegedly contained on the laptop is. I'm always very skeptical of a "scandal" that no one can describe in detail.
Trump's scandals have phone calls and smoking guns, I dont know what this one is, besides being a conspiracy theory frenzy.
Exactly. All I hear from conservatives is essentially "Gag, choke, gag, gargle, cough, Hey, haven't you heard about Hunter Biden's laptop? 'choke, gag, gargle', It's the smoking gun and liberals are ignoring it!, 'gag, choke cough', if only they would swallow disparate facts and act like it's some incriminating evidence of Hunters fathers malfeasance! 'gag, choke' Why haven't they done so yet?! The evidence is almost compelling!".
They ignore decades of the tangerine narcissist adulterers tax and bank fraud, ignore his paying nearly half a million to porn stars to keep them silent during the campaign, ignore the recording of their dear Leader saying he doesn't even wait for consent and that he just grabs attractive women by the pussy and how he tried to "move" on an apparently married "bitch" while his third wife was at home with his child but got shut down, they ignore his clear attempt to abuse power and get Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent, they ignore the lies about voter fraud and they ignore his clear instigation of the January 6th attempted insurrection.
So after all that they are clearly desperate for anything to hurt Biden and deflect from their Mango Mussolini monumental failures, ethics violations and criminality. What's truly funny is that Hunter Biden's laptop, after all is said and done, appears to be a single thin stalk of potential abuse that a few million delusional Trump supporters are trying to hide behind as if it justifies their continued support of a vile piece of shit criminal despot who tried to use his gullible supporters to overthrow our constitutional government. So it's no wonder all they have left is 'choke' "Hunter..., 'gag' Biden's... 'gargle'... laptop! 'cough' 'gag' 'choke'...".
But, a son of a candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America,
really DID have a Laptop.....
You forgot "TDS", lol.
There are people on this forum who actually claim Trump is the victim of smears as if all his sins and crimes were imaginary. It is inexplicable and we all need to acknowledge that America is in a lot of trouble. Millions of people in this country have lost touch with reality.
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John's seeds are "Trump is unfit for office", not "I hate Trump". He has argued that Trump should never have been elected, etc. He did NOT speak of personal hatred nor did he argue that his personal feelings about Trump were important. He argued, consistently, emphatically and aggressively (sometimes over-the-top) that Trump was unfit for office.
He and I have our disagreements about specific details and use of language within his arguments against Trump, but I have always recognized that John was arguing (correctly in principle) that Trump was unfit for office and that nobody should provide him support and encouragement.
Seeing things wrong is not a virtue.
You couldn’t miss my point more completely if you tried.
of course you would have voted for Biden under circumstances, against any Republican. I can’t imagine any democrat doing anything, no matter how criminal, (so long as he correct on the issues) that would keep a democrat from from receiving progressive support here.
Your post, and the responses, prove my point yet again.
Nothing but rationalizations and deflection.
Nobody has identified any crimes committed by Hunter Biden, but even if they did and he was convicted, Joe Biden could just pardon him like Trump did for Paul Manafort and Roger Stone and they would all just go away like those of Manafort's and Stone"s crimes did. Right?
And, the gop still voted for Trump. Didn't you?
crimes committed byHunter Biden
Lol.. That's the new standard? Lying, censorship and fake claims of "Russian disinformation " are okay as long as no is indicted?
Who do you imagine thinks you would apply that standard to anyone who isn't a Democrat in good standing? As I said, every reply makes my point for me,
Trump did for Paul Manafort
On cue, more "But Trump.."
Didn't you
As I've said repeatedly, I've never voted for Trump.
The degradation of our society and widespread acceptance of people like Trump go hand in hand.
There was a time that Trump's political career would have been over after he lied about Barack Obama for months with his "birther" campaign. Trump lied about the first black president relentlessly. No one on the right rebuked him for it, and a few years later he was the GOP nominee. In previous decades that would not have happened.
The degradation of our society
Is being led by people who justify MSM lying and gaslighting of consumers (it's Russian disinformation) democratic politicians lying, supposedly non partisan intelligence officials lying and censorship of accurate news reporting to protect partisan interests.
No dishonesty, no manipulation of voters is too great in furtherance of the progressive cause..
Well, you have a one track mind, I will give you that.
You brag about the fact that you didnt vote for Trump, but did you speak out against him at any point? If you did it was in an extremely minor way.
The idea that this "Hunter Biden" scandal is even remotely equivalent to what Trump has done to ruin this country for the past 10 years is ridiculous.
Yet people like you go on and on and on about Hunter Bidens laptop. As I said in another comment, I looked through dozens of conservative and mainstream media stories about Hunter Bidens laptop and I couldnt find a dang thing about what is supposedly on the laptop.
Is there anything criminal on the laptop? Anything that rises to the level of the president of the United States trying to coerce a foreign government to help him in his upcoming re-election efforts?
He says as he deflects, yet again to Trump.
Lol. I guess you owe Trump an apology. He's never been charged with a crime, and yet somehow you've gone on and on attacking him. In fact, under this standard , you'd have no problem with media outlets censoring all anti Trump articles, since Trump didn't commit any crimes. And intelligence officials can lie and label criticism of Trump "Russian disinformaton" and you would be fine with that too.
Your only problem with Trump is the R after his name. You'd happily vote for him if it was a D
You have jumped the shark Sean.
The only people trying to 'rationalize' are the ones that keep saying if the stupid laptop was more widely talked about Biden would have lost.
Instead of seeing that I would never vote for donald and would vote Biden over him in a second, you go on a tangent about how Dems always vote lockstep.
Comical considering I have seen several right leaning people say they voted straight party lines last time.
I didn't vote for Hunter.
I voted for Joe.
No kidding. At least Hunter isn't right there at the seat of government.
Lol John...
You still, after how posts, can't say the lies about/ censoring of hunter Biden's story laptop was wrong.
Do you realize how preposterous that is?
The only people trying to rationalize are the ones that keep saying if the stupid laptop was more
I've not made that arguement. That's not the point.
The MSM, Biden campaign and intelligence officials lied and gaslit the public about an accurate news troy. You, like every other partisan democrat, is okay with that because it benefited you. Just likee FISA gate, the dossier etc.
Instead of seeing that I would never have voted for Donald.
OF course you wouldn't so long as he didn't have a D after his name. I never suggested your vote was based on anything other than pure partisanship. Accordingly, it's literally impossible that Biden's laptop could contain information that could persuade you, unless it contained evidence of a crime against progressive idealogy, like support for controlling the border.
Lied about it? How so?
Again, funny to accuse someone of only voting partisan when like I said, we have several people here that admit to it and you are silent as long as it is on your side.
The MSM gave the story the attention it deserved. The Hunter Biden laptop has never proven any wrongdoing regardless of whether the laptop was authentic or not. Of course when the story first surfaced questions about its authenticity were asked as they should be. But the real reason this was a nothing burger is because even if authentic all it does is raise questions, it doesn't answer any of them, it's not the smoking gun proving Joe Biden did something improper let alone criminal.
Ignoring the Hunter Biden laptop story is not preposterous, it's the rational reaction those with more than half a brain have after listening to right wing conservative conspiracy theorists endlessly wax on about all the crimes they imagine Joe Biden must have committed even though all their supposed evidence are the words “10 held by H for the big guy.”
Of course, to a half witted conspiracy theorist already desperately invested in right wing conservative ideology, that kind of cryptic 'code' is more than enough evidence to convict both Hunter and his father. The laptop story was no doubt one of the key conspiracy theories held by the right wing conservative half wit brigade that attacked the capital.
The fact is there is so far no evidence of any crime being committed on the laptop. There is no evidence of any sort of 'deep state', there is no evidence that any of the major news outlets aka the MSM coordinating their news coverage or pushing any supposed agreed upon progressive agenda. There is no evidence of the major social media companies coordinating to exclude conservatives or empower progressives. Both the MSM and the social media companies are driven by profit and they run their businesses in the way that they believe will generate more income.
So why didn't the MSM and social media companies push the Hunter laptop story before the election? Because even now almost 2 years later there's still no concrete evidence of any crime.
What would have been preposterous and irresponsible would be if the MSM had run the laptop story day and night during the election as the pundits theorized what crimes the Biden's might have committed as they did on right wing media. Basically what conservatives are truly bitter and angry about is that the MSM refused to push their right wing political propaganda, not that the MSM was actively pushing left wing propaganda.
And almost two years later, this is all they got!
How pathetic!
Nicely stated. It is fatiguing to have to explain this repeatedly (to adults)!
Time will tell about Hunter. In the meantime Durham quietly investigates.
How is spending money for Durham's investigation 'thrifty'?
Tell what?
Investigating what?
This got so mind-numbingly tedious I just gave up and 'concluded.' It's sad to see how "broken" we have become. Maybe children can put us together again. . . very slowly and with great care.
It is absolutely hilarious how many of the left have pathetically attempted to deflect this from Biden's crack head kid to Trump. Not a single one even remotely attempted to discuss the article. Just went straight to "nuh uh" or "butttt TTTRRRRUUUMMPPP!!!"