Trump's Treason
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Trump asks Putin for a favor (again)
Donald Trump has exhausted our vocabulary of outrage and I'm trying to cut down on my use of obscenities for Lent. So, it is difficult to describe the sheer revolting awfulness of this:
Amid widespread criticism of his praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin, former President Donald Trump publicly called on Putin on Tuesday to release any dirt he might have on Hunter Biden, the president's son.
This was not taken out of context, nor was it a gotcha take. His own spokeswoman enthusiastically tweeted out his plea to Putin:
Liz Harrington @realLizUSA Exclusive: Trump calls on Putin to release info on Hunter Biden's dealings with oligarchs Exclusive: Trump calls on Putin to release info on Hunter Biden's dealings with oligarchs"I think we should know that answer," America's 45th president says.justthenews.com
March 29th 2022
It is as if he is recapitulating all of his most egregious scandals — from "Russia, if you're listening" to "I would like you to do us a favor"— multiplied by a factor of genocide.
And daring us to do something about it.
Trump, writes Aaron Blake, continues to play his greatest hits. "And the hits apparently include seeing just how long his party and supporters will tolerate his treating a man they hate as a legitimate political ally. Because, as always, the point is winning."
In the interview, Trump focused on allegations that Hunter Biden received millions of dollars from the wife of Moscow's late mayor, Yury Luzhkov.
Trump complains that Ukraine won't dish the dirt on Biden — "Now, you won't get the answer from Ukraine," he says — but thinks that Putin might.
"She gave him $3.5 million, so now I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it," Trump said. "I think we should know that answer."
Even as Trump spoke, Putin was waging a war of unremitting terror that has killed thousands of Ukrainians. The West has rallied to oppose him, and nearly every American political figure — from both parties — has denounced the Russian thug.
And it is at this moment, amidst a brutal war of aggression, that Trump once again reached out for Putin's help in attacking the sitting American president and, by extension, this country.
Here's where we come to the treasonous smoking gun: Trump explicitly frames his request to Putin as an act of retaliation not just against Biden, but against the United States itself.
Some accounts leave out the key phrase that Trump uses when he explains why Putin might help him.
"As long as Putin is not exactly a fan of our country... I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it... you won't get the answer from Ukraine... I think Putin now would be willing to probably give that answer."
As long as Putin is not exactly a fan of our country... said the former and perhaps future president at a time of international conflict.
Now commenceth my rant.
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Republicans, defend this. Go ahead. Try. Don't dodge or hedge. Defend your leader's partnership in slime and blood with Vladimir Putin.
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Tell me again that he learned his lesson.
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Explain again that you think the whole Russia thing was a hoax.
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Justify putting this defeated, disgraced, twice-impeached deplorable back in the Oval Office.
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And make the case for giving the nuclear codes back to this scabrous traitor.
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Putin’s Russian State Media Declare Trump As Their ‘Partner’ & Suggest Biden Should Be Overthrown
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F ollowing President Joe Biden’s remarks during his speech in Warsaw about the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin have seemingly put the Kremlin on edge.
Now, it seems, the elite of Russia have had enough of their rocky relationship with the United States and wish to return to an administration that views Putin and his government more favorably.
Russian State media’s administration of choice? The Trump administration.
Russian state media was Moscow's ‘partner’ Donald Trump back in office.
The Kremlin's media have been speaking ill of Biden after his recent speech in Warsaw in which he said, i n a reportedly unscripted conclusion to his speech, “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power."
This comment sent ripples through the world and garnered much praise and also some criticism.
Biden has gone on to state that he would not be walking his statement back but clarified that his comment was a personal opinion and did not reflect the plans or policies of the United States, saying, “I just was expressing my outrage.”
State media referred to Trump as a 'partner' in a call for an overthrow of the United States government.
It seems that the President’s words have the entire Kremlin clutching their pearls, including a state TV personality who went so far as to say , “It's time for us, our people, to call on the people of the United States to change the regime in the U.S. early, and to again help our partner, Trump, to become president.”
The Trump administration has been fighting accusations of favoritism and consorting with the brutal Russian regime since before Trump’s first impeachment.
At the very least, this seems to indicate that the Russian media, an extension of the Russian government, views Trump very favorably.
Trump asked Russia for dirt on Hunter Biden.
In a recent interview, Donald Trump called on Putin to release dirt on Hunter Biden while discussing his alleged illicit dealings with Russian oligarchs, saying, “I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”
It is unclear if there is any credence at all to these accusations, but the Kremlin hasn’t released any such information so far.
Unfortunately for Vladimir Putin, he’ll need to wait at least a couple more years before his comrade has another chance at the presidency, although Donald Trump seems to have exhibited a willingness to try to overthrow democracy before.
Truly, they were made for each other.
Yet his supporters and enablers are going over his accomplishments on another article.
Or destroying TiG's article, I should say, like they normally do.
Did they dump on it?
Don't look now but they may have done something else.
They tried to but TiG gave them what for. He doesn't put up with their horseshit
They didn't do anything except try to troll it and turn it into something else. None of your buddies have the intelligence to go up against TiG. They can't understand his instructions
True, TiG handed them their asses quite nicely.
Not a difficult thing to do
Yet you failed, nonetheless.
I did?
Where did I do that, Dulay.
Be specific....
and not your opinions.
In TiGs seed.
You failed to destroy TiGs seed because you never even made a comment on the topic of the seed.
That seed is a joke.
A triggered liberal ego stroke fest.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Yet you failed to refute even one thing in the video.
Y'all claim it would be so easy and that seed is a joke but both bailed when it came to actually making a cogent argument to support your claims.
Proclamations don't cut it.
Wrong, I refuted the entire video.
Wake up and smell the coffee ....
False.
Even YOU admit that in order to refute the video, you are required:
Again, proclamations don't cut it.
You 'exposed the falsity' of NOTHING.
Why did Donald Trump ask a dictator who the entire world describes as a war criminal to help him discredit his political rival and family?
Just answer that question.
Wrong again, my comments stand as is regardless of the usual the liberal application of left wing crackpottery.
But hey, at least the mafia agrees with you.
I agree he handled that awfully. Let’s investigate that and while we’re at it we can dig into Hunters actions in that part of the world and uncle Joe’s involvement.
Right?
Your comment is a lie Sparty.
If by 'crackpottery' you mean empirical evidence, you're finally right about something.
All members have to do is READ that empirical evidence, your comments on that seed, and I'll leave it to them to come to their own conclusions.
Lol ..... it’s not a lie. Maybe to you it is but to that I could care less.
If I wasn’t fine with that I wouldn’t have said what I’ve said. I could care less what looners on the left think. Those folks are clearly too far gone to care about any crazy opinion they may conjured up in their anger addled brains.
Way far gone be they ....
I invite you or any or your comrades to post a link to even ONE of your comments that 'exposed a falsity' in the seeded video.
Overthrow our government?
Hey, Russia! We're not mealy mouthed follow the Great Leader, spineless, jellyfish! We had a revolution and did quite well with it. At least nobody was sent to gulags or delibarately starved to death. We even get to have real elections!
So Russia...kiss my ass...kiss his ass...kiss her ass. Just kiss America's ass
Remember when politics at least had some sort of strategy to it? With Donald Trump there is no strategy - every statement is just a Tourette’s level reflex with zero concern for how easily it will be disproven. Of course Putin wants that for the US. He wants the US to fail even more spectacularly than the USSR, and Donald Trump is the quickest means to those ends.
I heard an interesting take on this yesterday. It goes like this -
The political right takes the position that the true enemies of the nation are not foreign, such as Russia, but rather are domestic, as in "wokeism" and "socialism" and "CRT". Therefore, according to this take, the right is justified in siding with Putin and making him their ally, because the true danger is much closer to home.
I think that take has a lot going for it.
Not really.
What is your definition of "woke"?????
What is your definition of 'woke'?
It's because being "woke" aka aware or alert to injustice exposes right wing ideology that is founded on injustice. Their issue with CRT and socialism are part of that with CRT supposedly exposing children to real unvarnished American history (I say supposedly because its not actually being taught in K-12 regardless of the many mental midgets who claim otherwise) and their claim that any social program to help minorities thrive (which is counter to their status quo of injustice) is somehow "socialism". The right wing religious conservative ideology is really only designed to help/support white conservative Christians, so the idea of working to help others (atheists, Muslims, lgtbq Americans, minorities etc.) with their resources is anathema to them. It's counter to their entire white conservative Christian fantasy of being the holy warriors for Christ who will kill all of their enemies (aka anyone who isn't a right wing conservative Christian) in their coming hoped for Armageddon. I believe most right wing conservative Christians appreciate injustice as long as it's kneeling on the necks of those they despise, so of course they would be bitterly opposed to "wokeism".
And where did you pull that from?
Or did you just make up your whole post?
From 30 years of personal experience living in and being part of the right wing religious conservative community in Ohio, as well as the last 20 years being away from it but watching what it's become through my family that still lives in Ohio and the other half of my family who mostly live in Arkansas.
I'm not saying every white right wing conservative Christian is racist, I'm just saying that the most racist people I know happen to all be white right wing conservative Christians.
So just made up as I figured all along.
Thanks for confirming.
You believe what you want. If someone wants to remain blind to the truth no amount of facts will convince them. I guess if conservatives want to consider decades of experience as "made up" then I guess I don't have to listen to any of their whiny complaining about how they feel they've been mistreated by the supposed "leftists". Thanks for confirming.
I asked for proof and as usual you supplied bupkiss.
You asked where I got my opinion from. I told you. Now you're asking for proof? Of what? My opinion? Or that right wing religious conservatives are right wing religious conservatives? I thought that would be pretty obvious, but if you need me to walk you through it step by step just let me know. I'm happy to tutor anyone who is having trouble navigating reality.
Those who can't do, teach.
You can start with Lia Thomas and Jazz from tv and Bruce Jenner
That is true and you are constantly proving that
I'm glad you concur with my comments that regularly inject truth into right wing conservative alternate universe discussions that expose the inability of most right wing conservatives to comprehend reality.
No I said you were blind to the truth. You would not know the truth if it came up to you, introduced itself, handed you photo ID and gave you a business card.
To which I take great offense. I have been an accountant, dealt in stocks and securities for Pru Bache, and was a teacher, and the hardest job I ever did was being a teacher.
I would challenge you to get in front of 32 kids and hold their attention, never mind getting something into their heads.
If I had a dollar for every time a "conservative" here has asked a stupid question or asked for "proof" of something , I could take a nice vacation to Hawaii with the money.
They either don't know how to or are incapable of engaging the issues in question in any sort of adult way. What we end up with is what I call babble, just basically meaningless complaint or grammar school level "ridicule" emanating from their comments in a slow torturous drip.
They can't do better, or they don't want to because the facts in most cases are so against them. When you don't have the facts all that is left is to try and turn it into a food fight.
And if I had a dollar for every time a liberal was unable to answer what they were specifically asked, I could probably retire.
dont wait for perfection, retire from here anyway.
WTF is THAT all about?
Who said anything about perfection?
Lol and if we had a dollar every time a triggered liberal spaz’d out here we’d be looking to buy a tropical island right now.
The idea that a former US president would seek help from a foreign dictator against domestic political opponents is something out of "thriller" fiction and belongs in a limited series on Netflix or HBO, not as a reality facing the nation.
We are so far off track, and will remain that way until Republicans/conservatives decide to work up the strength to tell Trump to go to hell.
We’ve seen it said numerous times here, from both sides of the politics spectrum, that Russia needs to eliminate Putin from the inside. We all know what that means. This is an obscenely stupid time for Trump to be trying to overtly form a personal alliance with this madman. It won’t be long before voices will be saying the same thing about Trump.
The new and unimproved ''Apprentice'' will feature DJT applying to be Putin's wingman.
now that's funny
Oh looky here. Yet another "Buuuuuttttt TTTTTRRRRUUUMMMMPPPP" article.
What are we up to, 8? 9? And they all failed.
There is something wrong with you.
This article is based on Trump's own words.
“Trump's own words.”
So…to the apologists he was either joking or alluding to some ‘alternate’ truth.
In any case, in every case, it comes back to self-servitude, self-aggrandizement, and at this point, self-preservation.
His lot is self-imposed: politically, judicially, and to his ultimate chagrin…historically.
No John. There is something wrong with someone, but it's not him.
Yes.
Does it escape your attention that you have been claiming "treason" based on one comment or another since the man was elected?
When they indict the man, let us know.
Also, please be aware that "Donald Trump in prison" is the greatest possible gift to the Republican Party.
As I said, I dont give a shit about him being indicted. He is "guilty" of ruining this country, making us the laughing stock of the civilized world, and dogwhistling racism and giving comfort and succor to white supremacists. he is no more qualified to be president than a random name pulled out of a phone book. And most likely less.
That would be the greatest gift to ALL of us.
For John, well before Trump was elected.
So....no "treason" then. OK.
Riiiiiight. So which gulag are you in, John? Did the secret police break down your door in the middle of the night or did they snatch you off the street?
Oddly enough, my day-to-day routine doesn't change much no matter who the president is.
A fact that you admit but cannot tolerate if referred to by a foreigner.
So lets hear the recording of "trumps own words". You don't have it? Then it's just another conspiracy theory pedaled by the TDS driven folks in the news and here on NT.
If there were actual acts of Treason, don't you think charges would have been filed by now?
There is a video of his words. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you not feeling well ?
Link.........
I would hope it's a link of the full interview and not just the NBC News edited copy. I do not trust national news in this country to provide the full truth any more.
I'm done helping you understand the world. Dont be so lazy.
You know it will be a heavily edited version. Gotta keep the agenda going.
So, yet again, all you have is another "Smoking Gun" failure.
At least your consistent.
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Gee. Remember when Trump said he was getting phone calls from housewives that were complaining 'they had to flush the toilet 15 times'?
There is links for that-------and all jokes aside. What in the hell was he talking about? And was the president of the US really taking phone calls from people complaining about their toilets?
Nothing has been proven in a court of law other than in the kangaroo court of public opinion the liberal left is engaging in on a routine basis. When Trump is arrested, convicted, and sentenced in a real court of law on legitimate and provable charges, then those on the left screaming treason can crow. Until then they got nothing other than innuendo and conjecture. I am not a Trump fan and never have been, but I want to see the same legal and legitimate process used to prosecute Trump as I would any other American and I'm not seeing it.
Where in this story does it say anything about putting Trump on trial for treason? The idea that he is "innocent" because he hasnt been indicted and convicted of a crime is ridiculous.
He asked an enemy dictator, during wartime, to help him discredit his political opponent.
Do you need a ton of bricks to fall on you?
I think you need to reread the article John. My point is that treason, in the legal sense, must be proven in a court of law. With that in mind, The legal system in this country says that all are presumed innocent of a crime until proven guilty in a court of law. Google Burden of Proof statues. Are you saying you disagree with said presumption? Sounds like it.
As far as his alleged request to a enemy dictator, prove that what he did was illegal. Unethical and possibly immoral, but not illegal, just like alleged "smoking guns". Again, let it be proven in a legitimate court of law either way.
As far as a ton of bricks falling on me, I'm not the one that needs to worry about that.
Point out where in the article the writer mentions the legal definition of treason. I'll help you, it doesnt.
Defend Trump about his desire to collaborate with Putin or condemn him , but stop talking about something that is not part of the discussion. Right wingers keep talking about legal definitions of words because they dont want to face the horrible truth of their orange god.
Because they actually MATTER, just not to some who shout "TREASON" at the drop of a hat with no evidence to support their spurious claims.
The author should have made his case better.
Anyone who just wants to throw out a word like treason and expect to be taken seriously really needs to have a passing understanding of the term's meaning ant it's implications. That is obviously not the case here.
That is , exactly, what the writer says. He quotes Trump saying ""As long as Putin is not exactly a fan of our country... I would think Putin would know the answer to that" , meaning that because the US and Putin are at serious odds Putin will be more likely to help Trump. In other words the conflict between the US and Russia might be a motivator for Putin to help Trump.
What would our enemy Putin get out of it? He would get the benefit of trump using the information to try and diminish the president of the United States, which Putin would love to see happen during a time period that President Biden is aiding Ukraine.
Will someone please tell me what the fuck is wrong with you people?
The triggered tend to use the most negative nouns and adjectives possible when dealing with Trump.
Veracity rarely matters to them .....
What on earth would you know about anyone making a good case ?
I damn well know this article's author didn't make one.
Nor have you.
Too true.
Agree to disagree
Amen to that. And then deflect, deny, and verbally attack/insult the opposing individual(s) when they have been proven wrong or lacking in knowledge.
And yet your don't provide any.
In a 3 day period,
And they've ALL failed. You would think they would learn.
The liberals that cried wolf never do.
His new residence needs to be Mar A Gitmo.
Your comment made me wonder about whether his fellow prisoners would consider him to be the enemy, or just one of them.
When you can come up with evidence of wrong doing we'll entertain that. But since there have been 5 straight years of investigating and not a single charge, I think you are going to remain disappointed while he lives rent free in your head for quite a long time.
Your constant babbling about this has become insufferable.
We've been telling you that for quite a long time, yet here you are.
Your obsession with the man has become much the same. Insufferable and childish.
Show us on the doll where the orange man hurt you.
Stop trolling.
My guess would be the whole doll.
That is a good description of you John, constant babbling.
That's all they got - along with projection, deflection, and denial.
His most egregious act of treason was what he did after the election — his attack on the constitution and the republic itself. As a sitting president, no less. Few things could be more treasonous than that. I literally can't believe that he still has so many boot-licking supporters. He's still the defacto leader of the Republican Party for crying out loud, which is absolutely astonishing, and the biggest indicator yet of how F'd up this country truly is.
So then you would agree that Hillary Clinton and many of her supporters are/ were guilty of treason for their actions after the 2016 elections
I don't recall any "leftist" mob attacking the capital before the 2017 inauguration in an attempt to stop the certification of Trump as President. Do you? I don't recall Hillary refusing to concede for, what is it now, a year and a half? I don't remember the Clinton campaign declaring "Hillary won!" over and over after the election. Hillary conceded on November 9th, 2016. Here is a snippet of her concession speech:
" Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I’m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country. But I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together, this vast, diverse, creative, unruly, energized campaign. You represent the best of America and being your candidate has been one of the greatest honors of my life.
I know how disappointed you feel because I feel it too, and so do tens of millions of Americans who invested their hopes and dreams in this effort. This is painful and it will be for a long time, but I want you to remember this. Our campaign was never about one person or even one election, it was about the country we love and about building an America that’s hopeful, inclusive and big-hearted .
We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. "
And here are snippets of Donald Trumps concession speech:
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Oh wait, he still hasn't conceded a year and a half later.
So no, no one with more than half a brain would agree that Hillary or her supporters "are/were guilty of treason" based on their actions after the 2016 elections. Now half witted dip shit right wing conservatives with their heads and necks shoved up dirty Donald's voluminous ass probably aren't intelligent enough to see the stark differences in how each candidate handled losing an election, but that's their fucking problem isn't it.
The "Clinton mob did not attack the capital but they did riot in several cities and demand that Hillary be made president. Not only they didn't just riot one day but for months after the election. Hillary and her supporters did attempt to subvert the Electoral College process by encouraging electors to be faithless. They even attempted to bribe some ot all of them.
There were hundreds and hundreds of protests and demonstrations prior to the 2016 election and in the years that followed. There were instances of assault between protestors and trump supporters and some of these resulted in arrests. There were only a couple of events that were actually considered "riots". Portland Oregon and one in Albuquerque, NM.
I live in the Portland area and the riots and looting and destruction of private and public property went on for months. LEOs were blinded by lasers and had rocks and bites thrown at them. Fire bombs were thrown into occupied government buildings. One car dealership had dozens of cars destroyed. The riots on Jan 6 was a protest the hot out of hand and only one was killed (a protester) was killed. The Jan 6th protesters have been identified using facial id. No such procedures were used to I'd Portland rioters. Jan 6yh protester were held without bail or on high bail. Portland protesters that were arrested mostly had the charges dropped.
Ashli Babbitt was a violent insurrectionist, that goes way beyond the term "protestor".
Everything else in your post is accurate.
Hillary Clinton conceded the morning after the election. She did not try to undermine the election process. She did not attempt a coup.
That's bullshit. What planet do you live on? Where do you get your information from?
The Clinton campaign did not endorse or encourage any faithless electors, and they damn sure didn't try to bribe anyone. Why do you believe shit like that? Are you a Fox News viewer?
As for her 'supporters', private citizens calling for faithless electors has about as much import as me saying Trump should go jump off a cliff.
Got any evidence of the bribery claim, or are you just making shit up?
I am not a liberal so I don't make shit up. I lived thru those times I I remember it very well.
Oh by the way. I was born in Ohio which is in the United States on the north American continent on the planet Earth in the solar system around Sol in the Milky way galaxy. What lifeless planet are you from?
Everybody here lived through the 2016 election. The Clinton campaign did not try to subvert it. Why do you think they did? Serious question.
Ashli Babbitt also bankrupted herself with high interest rate loans she secured for her swimming pool business. Had she been smart, which she apparently was not, she would have allied herself with Sen. Elizabeth Warren instead of a grifter/shyster like Trump.
Because they did! If you think other wise you must have been deaf, mute and blind. Do you play pinball.
Well I guess that was reason enough to get murdered by cop. As far as aligning herself with Fauxcahantas, there are few if any worse "people" to follow.
Trump made him/her happy and they hope Trump will make them happy again. That is why they delude themselves.
Her why do you think people voted for Obama or Clinton or anyone else for that matter
Well half your statement was true, the supposed "Clinton mob did not attack the capital". The rest of your comment is pure unadulterated BULLSHIT!
Can you please quote Hillary asking anyone to be a "faithless elector"? Do you have any evidence anyone on the Clinton campaign asked anyone to be a "faithless elector"?
Don't worry, you don't have to answer, I already checked and the answer is of course "NO!".
Did some fringe Hollywood actors like Debra Messing call on the electors to challenge the vote after Hillary conceded? Yes, yes they did, but none of them were taken seriously and the Clinton campaign had nothing to do with them.
So unless anyone can quote Hillary or any of her official campaign staff demanding the electors change their votes, I can only assume anyone coming up with such a wild false accusation must have a soft spot on their skull that was repeatedly punched, prodded and smacked because how else can you explain such brain dead ignorant moronic conclusions.
Yes, it's sad that some complete dip shit morons clearly suffering from chronic traumatic encephalopathy are attempting to rewrite history to protect their greasy piece of shit bile sucking Mango Mussolini. But do we really have to give a flying fuck what such mentally incompetent goat fornicators have invented in their weak lazy flaccid empty brain cavities? I would say no.
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I was born in Ohio as well. Thankfully I wasn't dropped on my head repeatedly, which I can only assume some other Buckeyes had been, especially if they continue to believe bullshit right wing conspiracy theories, or seem, for some unknown reason, to love the flavor of Trumps shoes that they can't stop licking. Perhaps that's why they can't tell the difference between Trumps dirty loafers and Putin's.
I've never been a Hillary or Bill Clinton fan, I didn't vote for Bill though I did vote for Hillary in 2016, but not because I thought she was some great leader but because she was the lesser of two evils, and after 4 years of Trump I did not regret my vote one bit. Trump proved himself a monumental embarrassment to intelligent Americans.
I only object to the lies being told by some who I can't tell if they actually believe the lies, or if they're just more worthless scum bag right wing conservatives who don't give a fuck about the truth. So while I'm not a Hillary fan, I can still dismiss the monkey shit being flung by the 'smartest' of conservative chimpanzees who are flinging their random bung hole generated 'ideas' at the zoo plexiglass.
looks like Hillary and the DNC got caught with their grimy little hands in the cookie jar.
Really? How so? So far I haven't heard anyone actually refute any of the facts I pointed out in 10.1.1 and none of the dozens of Republican led investigations every proved she did anything illegal, so I'm curious as to what "cookie jar" her hand was caught in. Or is "cookie jar" code for Trumps asshole where I can only imagine most right wing conservative heads are still stuck to this day and thus can only repeat regurgitated bullshit that flows naturally from Trumps overly stretched anus.
Please do keep up. It is well known now that Hillary and the DNC were fined.
Do you think they were fined for shits and giggles???
Look, I realize you don't like Trump, but there is a WHOLE world out here having NOTHING to do with Trump.
Attempting to spin every damn conversation to Trump so you can get your licks in on him is rather silly and awfully boring.
Why are you so obsessed with him?
Perhaps that is because the rest of us understand what the fucking topic is and don't feel a need to rant about Trump every post.
Warren has been trying for years to rein in predatory loans. GOP will have nothing of that. Babbitt was a fool.
And...........when one has to resort to name calling...........well..........there it is, there you have it.
She did but used her underlings in the democrat part of congress to do it for her.
Fined $8000 for misreporting opposition research, oh my! I find it rather difficult to see that small of an amount when it is dwarfed by the amount Trump has been fined by the FCC and the courts which exceed $27 million.
"Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." - Matthew 7:5
Only if "Shits & Giggles" are the new right wing conservative pundit team on Fox News.
Yet there are still 70+ million Americans that seem to bow down to their fat greasy Golden Cow.
No need for any spin, just stating facts to clearly delusional Trump supporters who just can't handle the truth which really isn't my problem.
I love my country and don't want to ever see it shat on again by a disgusting incompetent serial liar, adulterer and monumental narcissist that regularly praised authoritarians and dictators while ridiculing our allies and western democracy. Once Trump is no longer a clear and present danger to our nation I've no interest in ever hearing his name again.
Of course you do.
Spare me your Fox News poutrage.
I can't even keep count of how many times you've gone all TDS on us. I guess I shouldn't expect it to ever stop.
Calm down, take a breath.
It's all gonna be alright.
You should be worried about the dip wads we have as president and vice president now. They are totally incompetent to hold their positions .
Trump is no longer president and had no power. Your fear and hatred has far surpassed sane levels. Perhaps you should seek help
Please, you're expressing nothing but partisan impotent rage and finding excuses to disparage the current administration. Has the current administration not only asked but implied the withholding of aid if a foreign country didn't give them dirt on Republicans? Has the current administration called Putin's criminal invasion of Ukraine "genius" or called Putin "savvy" as he bombs civilians? Did the current administration negotiate with the Taliban to withdraw troops from Afghanistan?
" The Doha agreement , signed in February 2020 , set a date for the US to fully withdraw troops by May 2021"
Yeah, lots of right wing conservatives keep trying to proclaim that Trump has no power yet they continue to cling like wet rats to the Trumptanic, refusing to accept that he lost the election and creaming their pants at the prospect that Trump will run again in 2024. He is the core of the Republican party as is evidence by the majority of the Republican party that refuses to criticize anything he ever did for fear of the backlash they would receive from his loyal sycophants.
I don't fear anyone on the right. I know who they are and what they stand for and while I recognize my responsibility to protect my family and friends from such dirty scum bags who desperately want to turn our nation into some right wing conservative Christian fascist State, I'm confidant that the majority of Americans will never let that happen and will metaphorically kick those fucking pieces of shit in the teeth when they try to rear their ugly heads.
I'm sure there are many cowards in Russia right now who believe opposing Putin is insane. Personally, I believe that only those who refuse to kowtow to corruption and stand up against injustice are the truly 'sane'. Everyone else is just abandoning their morals and empathy in favor of having their ears tickled which is nothing but servile delusion.
No but when the current president implied that if a prosecutor in Ukraine was not fired and a criminal investigation concerning his son, he would see that aid would be with held from the Ukrainians.
Biden did not have to honor that agreement. As it was he delayed it withdrawal for three months and royally screwed that up and abandoned American citizens, green card holders and others legally able to enter the US. What could the Taliban do? Call Biden a poopies head(they would have been right) and not like us?
Biden also "F'd" up our southern border by stopping the wall, allowing illegals to enter the country and spread them over the country and by ending article 42 and the stay in Mexico directive.
He has screwed up the oil industry by ending Trump's policies that made us not only energy independent but also an exporter of energy.
Under Biden inflation has hit highs we haven't seen in decades and the highest geul prices ever.
Biden is so afraid of Putin he is slow walking or denying all together the weapons Ukraine needs to successful chase the Russian out of their country.
Don't try and tell me how good biden's doing because both I and the majority of other people know what a piss poor president he is and many of those voted for him and are now having buyers remorse and would even like to see Trump back in office. Just like at the polls for the proof
The removal of a corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor with close ties to the disgraced former President Yanukovych who had been embezzling from the people for years was part of our US State Departments stated goal, not just some personal request from Biden.
"Ukrainians were able to see for themselves the opulence of his palatial retreat, surrounded by 140 hectares (345 acres) of grounds. The estate, complete with sauna and private zoo, is a stark contrast with the grinding poverty that afflicts many Ukrainians.
Hundreds of documents were found in a nearby river, revealing lavish spending and alleged corruption."
Now, years later right wing conservatives and clearly pro-Russian fascists falsely accused President Biden of using his position as VP for personal gain, yet there is not only no evidence of any unethical behavior, the State Department supported and cleared President Biden of any wrongdoing.
"Charlie Kupchan" the "senior director for European Affairs on the National Security Council, said anti-corruption efforts were "a big part of our diplomacy" with Ukraine, since "it was that corruption that allowed Russia to manipulate the country politically and economically."
He went on to say "(Biden) was acting alongside our European allies. Everybody was of a single mind that this prosecutor was not the right guy for the job."
Also " Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine , an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI."
I'm not really surprised at the lies and corruption coming from right wing conservative pro-Russian fascists who have been doing Putin's dirty work for years would come up with such a bogus attack. It's just par for the course for these pieces of fascist filth. Anyone with more than half brain wasn't fooled by their deceit.
The rest of your tired attack on Biden, from the border, our energy independence and inflation are all just worthless partisan attacks coming from the same right wing conservative pro-Russian lying scum bags trying to twist anything and everything to make the current administration look bad just to soothe their bitter resentment at losing the election in 2020.
Just more partisan fantasy bullshit. Biden is working with our European allies and NATO doing as much as we can right now without putting any of our allies at greater risk. Biden doesn't fear Putin, he's simply rational enough to understand that being reckless with a rabid nuclear power backed into a corner would only lead to further civilian suffering and death.
I won't bother, it's clear some wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face. The fact is Biden has made mistakes, he hasn't been able to get done what many of his supporters were expecting and the inability to get the "Build Back Better" bill passed has left him vulnerable to partisan attacks. He needs to do better and be more decisive and stop even trying to get Republicans to compromise since they will not change their policy of scorched earth.
Ah yes, turn to polls when they support your position but reject them as useless inaccurate representations when they don't.
Virtually everything you said is wrong. They are good examples of right wing disinformation though.
I think they are called liberal and democrats.
Ah a bit more projection from you. Doint that is a well known liberal ploy.
You mean gas prices aren't at all time highs? That record numbers of illegals have been crossing the border? That we are actually energy independent and a net exporter of oil and gas? Are you saying inflation is higher than it has been in decades? When did Biden allow the MIGs to be flown to Ukraine and when did they ship the other heavy weapons Zelensky has been begging for?
No, in Liberal La La Land, all is well, all is well!
Pretend inflation doesn't exist.
Pretend they have control of the border.
"I live in the Portland area and the riots and looting and destruction of private and public property went on for months. LEOs were blinded by lasers and had rocks and bites thrown at them. Fire bombs were thrown into occupied government buildings. One car dealership had dozens of cars destroyed. The riots on Jan 6 was a protest the hot out of hand and only one was killed (a protester) was killed. The Jan 6th protesters have been identified using facial id. No such procedures were used to I'd Portland rioters. Jan 6yh protester were held without bail or on high bail. Portland protesters that were arrested mostly had the charges dropped"
So you must have links to all that then?
Will you bother to read them if supplied to you?
Portland protesters, cops clash after Rittenhouse verdict (nypost.com)
Police declare riot in Portland as protesters mark 1 year since George Floyd's death - ABC News (go.com)
Portland protests: Here's why they're gathering - CNN
Portland Mayor Admits Hands-Off Approach To Riots Was Wrong – Bearing Arms
Portland Police Stand Down As Rioters Cause Over $500K In Damages - The Police Tribune
I'll add one..........................
From May to end of August, Portland sees riots
Probably won't matter as it will remain like most links--completely ignored by some.
I suppose pretending that no one can look things up on the internet is acceptable "debate" technique!
Why ask for something you tell every one you won't read?
Helsinki. Did Trump tell Putin that in a second term he could neuter NATO, not arm or support Ukraine and the GOP congress and senate would look the other way should Putin decide to annex Ukraine? This is treason. Isn't it? Or not?
Do you have any proof that is what he said. Do provide a link from a mom biased site. It is more likely that Obama told Putin that. Remember when Obama sent h a message that it would be better for him to do what Putin asked in a second term?
Oh and it was during Obama's term that Putin took over in Crimea and it was in biden's ye that Putin invaded the rest of Ukraine. Putin did relatively nothing when Trump was in office.
Nobody knows. Only Trump, Putin, the three Russians in the room and the American stenographer/translator who had her notes taken by Trump and was ordered by the president to secrecy.
And true. Obama did say that. What he said was accurate. How can you refute it? And why would you?
So you just made things up to attempt to accuse Trump of something.you can't prove happened.
all speculation all the time.
sad, isn't it?
Nothing is made up. Helsinki is a recorded historical event. Look at the body language as the two men exited the room. Listen to the comments after. It happened. It just did.
The meeting took place. What was made up by you is what took place at that meeting. You were not there.
It doesn't matter. They heard it on CNN and MSDNC. They are not allowed to parrot anything different.
And neither were you. The question remains: What happened there? I simply asked the question. If nothing is there, or if a great accomplishment was made for our nation and the World's future, why were we never told?
But I am not the one making wild ana fake accusations now, am I.
oh, no, the nefarious Helsinki again!!
what a hoot!
Most liberals probably can't even point out where Helsinki is, much less what country it is in.
Much like most of them had no idea where Ukraine is until after Russia invaded and they needed something else to blame Trump on, diverting from the failed Brandon.
As a liberal, I certainly know where Helsinki and Ukraine are located, and also their geopolitical significance.
For the life me, however, I cannot attach any significance to ‘Brandon’…guessing it is a simple phrase meant to illicit a simple message to simple minds.
You're right. That's why the NBC sportscaster had to use the excuse that the fans in the NASCAR race were yelling Let's go Biden instead of what they were really saying.
Don't want those simple minds of most leftists to know who they were really talking about.
Frayed and slipping even more.
Probably only because you needed to blame Trump for something in the leftist imagination.
“NASCAR”
…well that explains everything. The only surprise is they don’t change course to spend all day turning right.
Well you responded with a simple message. I guess that makes you simple minded but I knew that when you said you are a liberal.
Voted up, sir. If only to give you something as equally meaningless as that comment.
Expect another with every ‘contribution’, just a friendly reminder a liberal is amongst your biggest fans, if only for the comedic relief.
I counted 48 comments by conservatives on this seed. Only 3 of them were completely on topic , and another 5 were somewhat on topic. The other 40 comments had not much at all to do with Trump asking Putin to help him attack the Bidens.
Not a surprise at all, rather it is par for the course here.
That's because at the present time Trump is irrelavent except those that keep trying to use him to make Biden look better. Heres news for you, it ain't working. Joe Biden is a Putz and always will be a Putz. His VP it even worse
“…irrelavent.[sic]”
Agreed.
He is. He has no real power. He is not running for any office. The only thing he is being used for is for liberals to deflect just howbad and useless Joe Biden is. That it is not working is evident in many polls showing how more people would rather have Trump as president than Biden.
LET'S GO BRANDON!
“…howbad [sic] and useless…”
Agreed.
What are you the typo gestapo?
“What are you…”
You have already defined me, sir.
Not knowing my name, my background, my family, my residence, my religion…
…perhaps your invoking ‘gestapo’ was inevitable.
I am still looking for what treasonous act Trump is guilty of. Please use the definition of treason as given in the Constitution of the US
Are you in sympathy with Trump asking a war criminal to help him embarrass the Bidens ?
Not to mention that this turn of events virtually proves that Trump was willing to accept Russia's help in 2016 and that he tried to extort Ukraine in 2019.
At this time I really don't care what Trump does. He does not live in my head rent free as he does in yours.
Trump doesn't need help to embarrass Biden. Biden is do a damn good job of doing that by himself.
Still waiting for you to tell me what treasonous act he is guilty of.
Trump's mere existence is more than enough to trigger some folks into yelling
"TREASON!!!!!!!!" every few minutes.
The matter in question is the last president of the United States, out of office little more than a year, asking the dictator of a country that is an enemy of the US to help him discredit the family of his political rival, the current president. Trump is doing this asking in the middle of a brutal war in Europe started by the dictator Trump is trying to collaborate with.
The allegation of treason is within the seeded article, not hidden or opaque, but said in plain sentences.
Not a single right winger who responded to this seed has said whether or not they think it is acceptable for trump to be doing this. Not one. There are now 60 or so right wing comments on this seed, and NONE of them address what Trump did as right or wrong. They address what Trump did as an "obsession" with him from the left. Nothing about what TRUMP did, (which is literally the topic of the seed).
The closest I guess is "I dont care what he did". lol.
First Putin is not an enemy at least not in any formal way unless we declared war on Russia within the last few days that I don't know about. He may be an adversary and not a very nice man but not an enemy.
Second trying to find damaging info about ones political opponent's son is not a treasonable offense.
Semantics. You dont have to formally be at war with someone for them to be your enemy. Opposition in a confrontational way is "enemy" behavior.
The United States is participating in this war through supplying materials of war to one of the combatants, Ukraine. We are opposed to Russia in this war, period. We are not neutral. Trump proposed collaborating with our "enemy" in this war, which is ongoing. Many many people would describe that as treason whether you like it or not.
Russian state tv specifically described Trump as their "partner". Did Trump denounce this statement and say "I am not their partner"? Of course not, because he wants Putin to help him with the Bidens.
Who in their right mind would accept Putin and Russia calling him their "partner"? Yet Trump did not object, at least not publicly.
If we are at war as you say then Biden needs to get off the pot and show some backbone and let the Ukrainians have the weapons they need to fight it. He needs to let them have the Polish MIGS, the harpoon missiles they asked for, the S300 and 400 anti aircraft missiles they need. The Ukrainians need more offensive weapons to defeat the Russians
Well Russian State TV said it so it must be true. It is such a reliable source of information and would never come out with a false story. /s
Something on Russian tv is neither true or untrue without further information. Them calling Trump a partner is not meant to be "factual", I dont believe . It is a signal to both Trump and Trump supporters in America. Did Trump reject the signal and say "NO"? Not that I know of.
Well, they are more reliable than CNN host of reliable sources Selter.
I dont respond to people who keep asking stupid questions long after their sell by date.
I guess that is a logical response when you can't answer the question--pretend you don't respond to "those types" of people.
You are one of those types of people in case you were wondering.
And you are the one incapable of coherently answering the simple question he asked you based on your article but trying to deflect away from that failure by claiming to "not answer THOSE People".
We see you!
Translation:
I’ve got no cogent response so will now throw another temper tantrum
I am not answering the question about Trump being convicted of treason because it is irrelevant.
As far as questions go, you dont answer any so why should anyone else.
I seed and write articles, and discuss what is in the articles, - you ask lame ass questions 24/7 on this site.
Irrelevant?
It's in the fucking TITLE!
Hoo boy!
Wow, three lame attempts at deflection in one response. My favorite is the first one where you say Trump being convicted of treason is not relevant in an article titled "Trumps' Treason". Applying for Psaki's Job?
Yoda must be rolling over in his grave.
Trump being convicted of anything is not relevant because there is nothing in the article about Trump being charged or convicted of a crime.
Is it possible to murder someone without being charged or convicted? If the indictment or conviction doesnt come did the murder never happen?
We all know the answer to that. The article not only accuses Trump of treason, it mentions specifically why. You can agree or not agree with the writer , fine, what you cant do is say the article is bogus because Trump hasnt been convicted. That position is ludicrous.
If you don't like people asking about Trump maybe you should ease up on the 20 or so articles you post about Trump every week.
Any old idiot can make a claim. Proving that claim is something a touch harder, as evidenced by all the deflections when pressed why Trump hasn't been charged with anything despite the left shouting "Traitor" or "Treason" every where we turn.
Unsubstantiated bullshit is rightfully being called out.
He wasn't buried.
That makes them better than MSNBC and CNN. Almost all the reporting is a lie and liberal propaganda.
Comment 14.1.25 is neo-fascist propaganda.
THAT comment is what is truly ridiculous.
I'm not the least bit interested in your ignorant comment.
YAWN!
If you are trying to insult me you have failed miserably. But than it is impossible for you to insult me because I don't value your opinion in any way.
You must be interested. You responded.
As did you ... @!@
but he didn't claim he wasn't interested. see the difference?
When did he do that?
Show credible proof.
...
I'll buy you some eyeglasses for your birthday.
So you have NO coherent answer.
I don't even know why I posted that.
Everyone already knew it.
“…Trump is guilty…”
Didn’t you just contend he was irrelevant? But I tend to agree with both posits.
Read it again. With you glasses on.
what an ironic comment.
They can not do that.
Just one article after another of someone's opinion that they try to pawn off as fact until they get called on it.
Oh, God, yet another "smoking gun" article?
What's this one make--1,354 of them by now?
Hell, load the fucking gun NEXT time!!
reading about it is getting old, wish the Democrats had something real.
Yea but this time they really have him.
Are you sure?
We have been told so many times now all about these infamous "smoking guns" that it is getting to be like the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Democrats should either PUT UP or SHUT UP.
Either there is a mountain of real evidence against Trump and the Democrats are the world's worst prosecutors, or we have been lied to all along.
Guess I forgot the /s.
I understand there is 6 hours of missing phone records on Jan 6 and they have proof Trump ordered pizza and beer during that period so he could sit around and watch the festivities. Brian Stelter said it so I am sure it is true. That has to be worth another impeachment.
Maybe Trump spent the six hours composing his message to his followers at the riot late that afternoon
I don't think that would take 6 hours.
The left keeps on flailing about treason and are just sadly disappointed their impeachments didn't have the desired results.
One might think they would have learned, but, sadly, they will not.
The time and energy spent on Trump is really telling. I almost feel sorry for them that their life is so empty they feel the need to fill it with everything Donald.
Like pigs wallowing in the mud, so are some when it comes to anything and everything Trump.
As are those with "anything and everything" when it comes to the Clinton's or anyone else on the left. Welcome to partisan politics and the hypocrisy you choose to wallow in.
Well, you are here posting, so it must apply to you equally.
... and if it does, how does that excuse you?
I don't need an excuse. dud you see me offer one or bitch that someone posted?
The Apocryphal Twain: "Never argue with stupid people ...
Aug 07, 2020 · Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. – Mark Twain —
I'm sure that applies to the author of this trash piece.
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Your link reports that Mark/Samuel said no such thing.
It's the sentiment that matters.
Hogwash!
shouldn't quotes be true and accurate?
In their minds, the truth is what they tell you it is.
There's been enough unmoderated trolling on this seed. Locking it.