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How the GOP learned to stop worrying and love ‘stolen election’ claims

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  2 years ago  •  32 comments

How the GOP learned to stop worrying and love ‘stolen election’ claims
This line of argument suffers from the fatal flaw that there’s no allegation that any significant number of ballots cast were themselves illegal, as officials and even critics have acknowledged. It’s primarily an argument that encouraging more people to vote without hindrance is unfair to Republicans — and, more ominously, something to be treated as dishonest or illegal. The Republican Party and the Trump campaign spent millions of dollars explicitly trying to get people to vote for Trump....

One of the best articles you will read on this topic. 


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www.washingtonpost.com   /politics/2022/04/11/how-gop-learned-stop-worrying-love-stolen-election-claims/

How the GOP learned to stop worrying and love ‘stolen election’ claims


Philip Bump 7-9 minutes   4/11/2022





Making her case to Republican voters before next month’s primary in her state, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey (R) released a new ad succinctly capturing how Donald Trump’s false claims about the 2020 election are being weaponized.

“The fake news, big tech and blue state liberals stole the election from President Trump,” Ivey says in   the spot , which is titled “Stole.” She later adds that “the left is probably offended. So be it.”


Ivey’s assertion that the election was stolen is indefensible nonsense. But the specific phrasing of it, suggesting a conspiracy that involved the machinations of those long-hated elites rather than some cadre of as-yet-unidentified poll workers and schemers, is exactly how non-Trump Republicans plan to appeal to the voters who have been convinced that Trump was the real winner.

Not that Ivey shies away from unfounded fraud claims. But we’ll come back to that.

From the earliest days of his candidacy, Donald Trump forced Republicans and the conservative media to figure out how to make his most extreme rhetoric defensible, if not palatable. Trump would say something and his base of supporters would quickly seize on it. His allies were left playing catch up, needing to nod along with Trump in order not to alienate voters or viewers while still often insisting on some tether to reality.

So the specific claim that Trump Tower had been wiretapped became a story about intelligence agencies revealing the identity of someone who had been talking to Russia’s ambassador. The insistence that the Russia probe was a witch hunt — offered even before we learned anything about its genesis — became a complicated story about improperly obtained warrants and, more recently,   a false claim   that it was all Hillary Clinton’s fault.

When Trump lost in November 2020, the party might have been forgiven for assuming that the defeat marked the end of the pattern. One official infamously told The Washington Post that even as Trump continued to fume about alleged fraud, the party could simply let him burn himself out.

“What is the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time?” the official   said . “… It’s not like he’s plotting how to prevent Joe Biden from taking power on Jan. 20.”

Rarely have quotes aged so poorly.

Trump’s continuation of months of rhetoric alleging that mail ballots were suspect became weeks of complaining about counting those ballots became months of elevating any accusation about wrongdoing that came across his transom, however obviously false. An ecosystem arose around his claims — “stop the steal” — that generated a lot of money by propagating the narrative. Trump’s most loyal supporters believed (and still believe) that the election was stolen.

So the right got to work. As with the Russia investigation, it needed to come up with a way to agree that the election was stolen without embracing the junk that was obviously false or deranged. The result? Maybe there was rampant fraud, maybe there wasn’t. But everyone could agree that the election was   rigged   against Trump by the very elites he was trying to disempower.

One of the earliest articulations of this approach came from   Sen. Josh Hawley   (R-Mo.). He argued that the law expanding voting access in Pennsylvania was unconstitutional, implying that this gave Biden an unfair advantage. The law, passed by Republicans, had gotten to the state’s Supreme Court, with the chief justice saying that even if the law was invalid, the votes weren’t — a preview of how many similar allegations about “rigging” would play out.

In the 17 months since Trump lost, this alternate narrative has been dutifully fleshed out. The media rigged the election by not reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop, it is claimed, often conflating the social media restrictions on the initial New York Post story with the media at large and occasionally   overstating   the purported effect of that restriction. Nonprofit groups rigged the election by   encouraging voter turnout   in places where turnout was often low — places that often had heavier densities of Democratic voters. (This particular argument was aided by Time magazine’s deeply unfortunate framing of an effort to bolster election systems as   a conspiracy .) Democratic states rigged the election by making it easier to vote during the pandemic.

This line of argument suffers from the fatal flaw that there’s no allegation that any significant number of ballots cast were themselves illegal, as   officials   and even   critics   have acknowledged. It’s primarily an argument that encouraging more people to vote without hindrance is unfair to Republicans — and, more ominously, something to be treated as dishonest or illegal. The Republican Party and the Trump campaign spent millions of dollars explicitly trying to get people to vote for Trump. That nonprofits and state governments spent millions trying to get people to vote, though, is cast as proof that the system is rigged.

The end result is this ad from Kay Ivey. If you are a Republican who thinks the election was stolen — you’re right, though perhaps not in the way that you have been led to think by Trump. It’s the rhetorical equivalent of a 5-year-old keeping his fingers crossed behind his back; if interrogated, Republicans can clarify that they meant that the election was stolen solely through devious machinations, not literal stealing of votes.

Except that Ivey takes the argument a step further.

“Here in Alabama,” she pledges, “we are making sure that” — stealing an election — “never happens. We have not and will not send absentee ballots to everyone and their brother. We banned the corrupt curbside voting and our results will always be audited.”

This isn’t simply the “rigged” argument but instead sits in the middle between that and what Trump alleges. Curbside voting is “corrupt” because … why? Because of fraud? Or because it’s an expansion of access in more Democratic areas? That it could be perceived as either, of course, is the point. If expanding the vote in general is treated as dishonest or illegal, as above, then you can simply wave your hand at any tool for making voting easier as something to be avoided at all costs.

The reason the vote wasn’t “stolen” in Alabama is because Alabama is a deeply Republican state, not because of any putative prevention that Kay Ivey supports. It elected a Democrat in 2017 — barely — solely because of how Trump energized the left and because the Republican was credibly accused of inappropriately touching a teenage girl. But because the state has so many Republicans, Ivey also needs to pledge to fight against this nonexistent election theft.

While it was often the case that Republican efforts to backstop Trump’s false claims were simply an effort to move past what he’d said, this one bears ancillary benefits. New laws aimed at scaling back voting access as passed in Georgia and Florida apply a legislative response to frustrations about Trump's loss.

Republican legislators are, indeed, making sure that stealing an election never happens again. But only where “stealing an election” means “more Democrats came out to vote because it was easier for them to do so.”




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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago
In the 17 months since Trump lost, this alternate narrative has been dutifully fleshed out. The media rigged the election by not reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop, it is claimed, often conflating the social media restrictions on the initial New York Post story with the media at large and occasionally    overstating    the purported effect of that restriction. Nonprofit groups rigged the election by    encouraging voter turnout    in places where turnout was often low — places that often had heavier densities of Democratic voters. (This particular argument was aided by Time magazine’s deeply unfortunate framing of an effort to bolster election systems as    a conspiracy  .) Democratic states rigged the election by making it easier to vote during the pandemic.
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    2 years ago

Making it "easier" to vote created many loopholes that made it easier to manipulate to the process and cheat.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2    2 years ago
easier to manipulate to the process and cheat.

Prove it. 

Give us some evidence that ineligible people voted in 2020. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

You know last weekend Hillary Clinton claimed the election was stolen from her again.  Did I miss your seed flipping out about it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 years ago

Why are you trying to gaslight everyone? 

Hillary Clinton complained last week?  lol.

 Trump has complained every day, often multiple times every day , for the past 17 months non stop. There is no actual comparison, just an imaginary one right wingers like yourself cling to. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago
Trump has complained every day, often multiple times every day , for the past 17 months non stop.

And the Democrats complained and the left from November 2016 right up to TODAY.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    2 years ago

The world is awaiting your first accurate comment. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    2 years ago

See 3.1.1  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.3    2 years ago
See 3.1.1  

Why? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.3    2 years ago

See 3.1.2

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.1.6  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    2 years ago
And the Democrats complained and the left from November 2016 right up to TODAY.  

Dog doo!  Not even you can say that with a straight face.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.6    2 years ago
Dog doo! 

Prove me wrong.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.7    2 years ago

Don’t hold your breath on that one.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.1.9  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.7    2 years ago
Prove me wrong.

You're right.  I thought you were talking about Hillary only.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.9    2 years ago

Clinton's only participitation was the Steele Dossier and the election.  Democrats as a whole were flabbergasted that they had lost the 2016 election.  That doesn't mean that their backdoor dealings started on 17 November.  They actually planned for the, what they though miniscule, chance that they would loose.  The Steele Dossier and misinformation was already in the works.  I don't think they planned on, 1 losing the election, 2 their misinformation coming out as a hoax.  Yet, still to this day, there are many who still believe the whole "Russia Collusion" fabrication and many other fictional stories.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.10    2 years ago

It’s what the hive has told them to think so believe it they must

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.11    2 years ago

And they are so invested in all that bullshit that even a cursory look into it would ruin everything for them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.13  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.10    2 years ago

Some people are permanently addled on this topic and frankly there is little hope for them. They are exactly the people Trump took advantage of for years. 

Nonetheless, lets revisit the truth for a refreshing change

There Was Never a 'Deep State' Conspiracy to Get Trump - The Atlantic

Dec 2019

The belief that Trump is the victim of a vast and ongoing conspiracy is a crucial element of the president’s enduring appeal to his supporters. If the allegations against the president are all completely false, then his supporters can continue to back him with a clear conscience, because anything and everything negative they hear about the president must be false. The consistency of that message is more important than the actual details, which frequently end up contradicting complex explanations for the president’s innocence that are often incongruous with each other, such as the insistence that Robert Mueller’s investigation was a “total exoneration” of the president, but also “total bullshit.”


The Department of Justice inspector general’s probe into the origins of the Russia investigation, which was released Monday, found no evidence that any of the Trump conspiracy theories surrounding the origin of the investigation are true.

The investigation was not launched on Obama’s orders, it was not an effort by pro–Hillary Clinton FBI agents to prevent Trump from getting elected, and it was not predicated on the existence of opposition research gathered by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele.

The president’s defenders have taken to referring to the entire investigation as “the Russia hoax,” insisting that the entire investigation was an effort by “persons within the FBI and Barack Obama’s Justice Department” who “worked improperly to help elect Clinton and defeat Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.” But the IG report shows that the “Russia hoax” defense is itself a hoax, and a highly successful one, aimed at reassuring Trump supporters who might otherwise be troubled by the president’s behavior.

The inconsistencies and contradictions of the “Russia hoax” narrative appear not to trouble the president’s supporters. Rather, as George Orwell wrote in 1944, “For quite long periods, at any rate, people can remain undisturbed by obvious lies, either because they simply forget what is said from day to day or because they are under such a constant propaganda bombardment that they become anaesthetized to the whole business.” The numbness to every new Trump revelation, no matter how shocking, is in part a product of the president’s success in fatiguing anyone who might be interested in what the facts are.

The IG report knocked down the various claims that Trump and his allies have made, one by one. The report confirmed that the Russia investigation originated, as has been previously reported, with the Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos bragging to an Australian diplomat about Russia possessing “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, which the IG determined “was sufficient to predicate the investigation.” The widespread conservative belief that the investigation began because of the dubious claims in the Steele dossier was false. “Steele’s reports played no role” in the opening of the Russia investigation, the report found, because FBI officials were not “aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later.”



Republicans’ claim that the investigation began because the FBI misled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to obtain permission to surveil the former Trump campaign aide Carter Page was false. The IG also “did not find any records” that Joseph Mifsud, the professor who told Papadopoulos the Russians had obtained “dirt” on Clinton, was an FBI informant sent to entrap him. The former FBI agent Peter Strzok and the former FBI attorney Lisa Page, who shared anti-Trump sentiments over text and have become key villains in the Trumpist narrative of a “coup,” never had the power to do what has been attributed to them. The IG report notes that Page “did not play a role in the decision to open” the Russia investigation, and that Strzok was “was not the sole, or even the highest-level, decision maker as to any of those matters.”

The IG report also determined that “the FBI had an authorized purpose when it opened [the Russia investigation] to obtain information about, or protect against, a national security threat or federal crime, even though the investigation also had the potential to impact constitutionally protected activity.” Moreover, the IG found “no evidence” that “political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions” to investigate Trump advisers with ties to Russia.

There is, in short, no “deep state” anti-Trump conspiracy, no network of perfidious liberals in the FBI seeking to take down Trump. There is, however, voluminous evidence of reprehensible behavior by the president, first taking advantage of a foreign attack on the 2016 election for personal and political profit, seeking to obstruct the investigation into that interference, and then falsely concocting an elaborate conspiracy theory to avoid accountability for his actions.
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    2 years ago

Holy Fiction Batman.  

Nonetheless thank you for providing evidence of somebody who invested in all that bullshit that even a cursory look into it would ruin everything for them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.15  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.14    2 years ago

I post a detailed article and you post drivelish personal 'opinion'. Kind of the story of your life on Newstalkers. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    2 years ago
Some people are permanently addled on this topic and frankly there is little hope for them.

I agree and pray our friends on the left can gain some clarity on the topic.    They just seem to sound crazier and crazier each day ....

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.15    2 years ago

What you posted was evidence of somebody who invested in all that bullshit that even a cursory look into it would ruin everything for them.

Kind of the story of your life on Newstalkers. 

And there it is.  The personal attack we've all seen from you when somebody doesn't go along with your stories.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.16    2 years ago

They don't seem crazier.  The rabid way they lash out at any variant from the narrative is pathetic.  Just like in 3.1.15  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.19  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.18    2 years ago

Some very angry folks to be sure ..... 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 years ago
You know last weekend Hillary Clinton claimed the election was stolen from her again.

You know this is a "BUUTTTTT TTTTRRRUUUMMMMPPPP" article.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    2 years ago

I am claiming copy right infringement. jrSmiley_104_smiley_image.jpg

"BUUTTTTT TTTTRRRUUUMMMMPPPP"

That is my line; and it is 1 T, 2 R, 3 U (which you got right), 4 M (which you also got right), and 5 P. Followed by 6 exclamation points. I was going to get T Shirts, Hats, and mugs made up. But the first 12 demo mugs I had made were bought by leftists (no I am not kidding- they actually think it is intended it to attack Trump.) Trump is their world, their everything. Kind of defeated the purpose.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.1    2 years ago
I am claiming copy right infringement.

LMAO.  I didn't see the announcement.  Won't happen again.  I'll make sure I use the correct number of each letter next time.

But the first 12 demo mugs I had made were bought by leftists (no I am not kidding- they actually think it is intended it to attack Trump.) Trump is their world, their everything. Kind of defeated the purpose.

I think some of them may have been here on NT.  One in particular has an extensive list of "But TRRUUUMMMMPPPP" articles.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 years ago

Learned from Gore back in 2000 .... it’s like they’ve never heard of a democrat not accepting election results ......

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.4  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 years ago
You know last weekend Hillary Clinton claimed the election was stolen from her again.  

This is the 3rd or 4th time I have seen you repeat this without providing a link.  Please provide a verifiable link.

In addition, Hillary Clinton conceded the 2016 election that very evening, and congratulated Donald Trump in a most gracious and humble way. source   She also asked that the nation be patient while their new president learns the ropes.  Unfortunately for him, he never did.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.4.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.4    2 years ago

Good luck on getting links from some here.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.4.2  Sparty On  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.4    2 years ago

Yeah right, she just didn’t even have the common courtesy to come out that night and thank all the people who helped her through the campaign.

Probably because she was busy melting down, trashing her room and throwing shit at bubba.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  Tessylo    2 years ago

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