The verdict is in: the Trump slandering is a pack of lies
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In case you need more proof that the conspiracy theory about Donald Trump that obsessed the press and congressional Democrats for four years was made up by Hillary Clinton and her campaign, here comes another piece of evidence: John Durham reveals that the "a secret Trump server is communicating with a Russian bank" claim is bunk.
In a new filing, Durham reveals that the CIA concluded that cellphone data and Internet traffic provided by Clinton attorney Michael Sussmann was "not technically plausible" and "user created." Just like the Christopher Steele dossier, they made it all up. Wish the CIA could have told us that.
Robert Mueller said as much, yet many on the left continued to ignore his absolution, just as they will likely ignore or paper over the special counsel's conclusions. Clinton's team invented a story, forged evidence, and then presented it to the FBI and CIA as if it was something worth pursuing, derailing a presidency for years.
Let's review:
ALLEGATION: Trump had a secret computer server in communication with a Russian bank, and a Russian-made phone followed him wherever he went.
VERDICT: False. The CIA concluded the data, presented by Clinton lawyer Sussmann, who lied to agents that he was working independently, wasn't plausible. Many computer experts have since dismissed it as baloney.
ALLEGATION: Trump used "moles in the DNC" to hack Hillary Clinton's e-mails.
VERDICT: False. Mueller found no evidence of this, nor did anyone else. The e-mails were hacked, likely by a Russian group, and the Trump campaign had no knowledge it was going to happen, reporting has found.
Clinton's team invented a story in an effort to make Trump appear to be colluding with Russia.Andrew Schwartz / SplashNews.com
ALLEGATION: The Russians had "kompromat" on Trump, including videos of him with prostitutes.
VERDICT: False. Agents and reporters found no evidence. Nothing was ever released. Trump denied it and there was no support for the allegation. In fact, Durham alleges a Democratic operative was the source for Steele, meaning it was rumor-fueled, and likely made up, by people in Clinton's orbit.
ALLEGATION: Trump will help lift sanctions and boost Russia because he is compromised.
VERDICT: False. Trump increased sanctions as president and, though he wanted to forge a new relationship with Russia, gave Vladimir Putin nothing that he wanted.
ALLEGATION: Trump officials regularly met with Russian officials secretly.
VERDICT: False. The dossier says that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen met with Russian agents in Prague. That was denied repeatedly by Cohen and others and debunked by the Mueller report. After the election, Russian officials tried to contact Trump and inquire about top aide positions, information they should know about if Trump was really compromised.
We could go on and on, but much of the dossier and DNC allegations against Trump are "he likes Russia." Trump never made his ambitions to try to warm Russian-American relations secret. If he was naive, it wasn't compromised — it's called political differences.
Yet, "not technically plausible" and "user created" became the bywords of the day. Durham is chipping away at the conspiracy. And it is a conspiracy. The evidence is obvious.
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Planting false/made up information with the FBI/CIA seems to be the go to plan for Democrats.
It only worked for about 4 years.
The people that created these lies are morally evil and despicable human beings. Their crimes are the biggest scandal in US history. They would have been treated exactly in that manner had Trump been the one who did these crimes against the other side. Since it was directed at Trump by the democrat party, the media will down play it and try to minimize its impact.
I think that's a fair assessment.
gee, I wonder if durham has ever talked to the other alleged perps?
It's called "too smart by half."
Now nobody gets it.
Sussman is going to trial.
It's odd that every allegation was used in a failed attempt to remove Trump from office. Something that the left conveniently forgets when they go off on their tantrums about the "Big Lie".
The "Big Lie" has nothing to do with Russia, or Hillary Clinton. Try and understand what you are talking about before you start.
And exactly where did I say it did? You should really try to keep up and understand what you are talking about.
I am trying to help you make a little sense. But ignore it if you like.
So you figured you'd throw together some bullshit about me. Looks like it's you who doesn't understand.
Everything you, your ignorant cronies and the Democrats have done since 2016 has been exactly what you claim is Trump's "Big Lie", to reverse an election.
Stand there, stomp your feet, cry, throw another tantrum, I don't care. Nothing I said was false. The Democrats attempted to reverse an election. You are willfully ignoring that fact.
Your dependence on right wing media has left you unable to know what the hell you are talking about.
Can you refute the facts presented in the article? Of course you can't.
Im not even that interested in the "facts" presented in the article. They are not very important in general, and they certainly are not important to whether or not the FBI investigation of the Trump campaign was justified.
The FBI investigation of Trump was begun by the FBI in the first half of 2016, long before anything referred to in the seeded article above took place. The idea that Trump was framed and that is all there is to it is utter nonsense.
Hillary Clinton did not instigate the investigation of Donald Trump. Yet garbage like the seeded article will lead morons on the right to believe that Clinton was the mastermind. Trump was investigated because people in his campaign were making strange statements about Russia having dirt on Clinton.
The Mueller investigation began BECAUSE Trump fired James Comey, who was the head of the FBI at the time. Period. and the appearance was there that Trump thus had something to hide.
Since hunter Biden is under investigation at the moment, you have no problem with the republicans forging evidence and submitting it to the DOJ then?
and You think trump is a threat to democracy.
Brave of you to admit you don't pay any attention to the news you comment on.
So what you are saying by going after ME is you cannot refute a single fact in this article or what I said.
Read the article.
No need to read any further. This says it all.
SOSDD for you John. [Deleted]
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If you haven't noticed, there are a very select few who routinely seed articles about Trump and a select number of trolls that show up trying to deflect to Trump. But how much longer do you have to hear about this? It really depends you all on the left. How many times are you all going to deflect to Trump? How many more "smoking gun" articles are we going to see here from the left?
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If you want to debate me on whether or not the investigations of Trump's 2016 campaign were justified, we can do that.
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You mean that you come here and comment about stuff you never read?
Please tell me you are actually surprised by that.
Except that, and there is no doubt here, beginning by at least 2014 and continuing right up to election day 2016 Trump was in secret negotiations with clandestine agents of Russian State Intelligence Services to build Trump Tower in Moscow and then he lied about it...
Considering that Mrs Clinton retired from public service in January of 2013 it is inconceivable she caused the FBI and CIA to initiate the investigations into Trump's Russian connections between 2014 and 2016.
Trump got himself investigated on his own accord!
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The IG Report makes clear what caused the investigation of Trump.
Moreover, it's batshit crazy to believe you can submit made up evidence to the FBI just because someone is being investigated. Did you read the story? Why do you imagine your bs made up conpsiracy theory would be relevant to this, even if it was true?
The predicates for FBI and CIA Investigations into Trump's Russian connections were standard operating procedures for those agencies. The same as anyone seeking out, communicating with and establishing relationships with known agents of Russian State Intelligence Services, as Trump did.
Trump was not under investigation until midway through 2016. See John's post. He got it right it a couple posts above.
. You are lying . You've been asked to dozens of times to prove your claim and you never have. You just continue to spread misinformation.
I also notice you didn't defend your claim \ that you can submit forged evidence to the FBI if they've already started an investigation. A lie too far for you?
That in inaccurate. The CIA and FBI do not give out details but Trump was investigated by US and many other nation's espionage agencies beginning by 2014, which cannot be denied!
Still, Hillary retired from public service in January of 2013. How was she responsible for FBI and CIA investigations into Trump's Russian connections in 2016? Hum? Answer me that...
Okay., sure. You "know" this. And you "know" Mueller Lied. And you "know" the IG Lied. And you "know" the Obama admin spied on Trump without a warrant and apparently committed all sorts of crimes that no one knows about . All this top secret information and you are the only one who knows it.
Rejigger your tinfoil hat.
um? Answer me that...
In your world, you believe private citizens can't get in trouble for lying to the FBI? Who the hell believes only government officials can get in trouble for providing false information?
None of that alters the fact that Trump and Co sought out and met with about fifty different agents of Russian State Intelligence Services in the years leading up to the 2016 Presidential election. Nobody in the CIA or FBI has or ever will deny they were investigating the secret communications between Trump and Russia..
Oh, they are just agents now?
You almost had us believing s/ they were "clandestine" agents with the amount of times you spewed that bs.
Man .... it’s going to be fun watching the meltdowns, excuses, denials, redirects and outright lies that come from this.
Watching folks here impeach their own character and credibility is going to be a hoot. Kinda anti-climatic though because we already know the score for most here but it’s like potato chips I suppose It’s tough to eat just one.
Between years of the MSM's and Big Tech's disinformation about Hillary, Covid, and the Biden Syndicate, we've got a lot of entertainment ahead of us. Get the popcorn ready!
Oh yeah ..... and it begins ....
I am sure you and those of your ilk will continue to do just that
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Hillary as the writer? Hahaha
(In his defence, I have done that before. I have to go back and change it as the fetch function does that on its own sometimes)
All you have to do is click on "Seeded Article" to learn that the article was written and published by the NY Post's Editorial Board.
Don't worry, they know that.
This is the byline in the POST
Take it up with TiG.
I've found it odd that sometimes when I've seeded an article, the actual headline and byline and what appears on my seed aren't the same. Perhaps this is another example?
There are numerous glitches. I originally wanted another source for this article but it simply refused to accept the link.
Then you typed in "Hillary Clinton" knowing that Mrs Clinton she was not the author...
That's a big accusation. One that needs to be proved.
I demand that it be looked at.
Get management to do it and then we'll all have a good talk.
Hasnt there been enough pointless moderation on this forum ?
There is no place for false accusations here!
Folks Vic didn't do that. This is a glitch. Vic used fetch and the glitch comes from the New York Post, which probably is unaware that it is in its coding.
You sound like someone who hasnt read his own seeds.
It is a glitch, and I noticed it only because I proof read my seeds before sending out.
It's because iv'e read yours.
That's why your listed as a professor!
Durham is just trying to cover for Trump. Trump is Russia dirty. Trump has laundered Russian, Saudi and Chinese money for decades. And this is what Durham is protecting and he knows it.
And there is this too. Why on earth did Trump say he, "Saved Mohamed bin Salman's ass." Why did Trump say and do that? What else is involved in this murder? Is it possible that the 'ass saved' was Trump's?
Yup, no doubt/ S
Yep, no doubt. "I saved Mohammed bin Salman's ass," Donald J. Trump. Yep, no doubt. The man you support is a traitor and perhaps an accomplice in a murder.
And I will assume that you have absolute hard evidence that you will share with us all. Or are you just blowing smoke like usual
That is what Trump said. Why did he say it? Or--------save his ass from what?
No smoke. You guys are afraid of the truth even if your democracy hangs in the balance. Why? Why is that? What are you protecting?
Where is proof of a treasonous act or that he was an accomplice to murder. Just because you say it does not make it so.
Very.
It is also is kind of sad to think that there are people who have Trump still living rent free in there heads and so completely dominate their thought processes.
I asked the question. That is what Trump said. What did he mean? How did he 'save' bin Salman? And what did he save the Saudi Crown Prince from?
You have an explanation? If so, I will gladly have the discussion. It is on you.
You'd have to ask him. I don't even know that he said that. I asked the question about what evidence do you have that he committed treason. So far all I have heard is crickets
Understand. If it is beyond a (Brandon Thing) your ability to correlate is limited.
So in reality you are telling me you got nothing. Just admit your treason statement was BS.
No. Just waiting for your next Brandon thing.
And yet after 4 years of investigating there is nothing to back up your claim. Although that's no surprise. The left has run off unfounded claims for a few years now.
Actual fact. Everything and everybody Trump slanders are always based on lies. Always. And this from 'the man' that stated during an interview, with his daughter Ivanka seated beside him, that if, "She wasn't his daughter, he'd be dating her."
[deleted] If you are trying to boost Biden up by bringing up trump you are failing epically
You for real?
I am very much for real. Now are you going to answer my question or are you going to duck it again?
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