The lawless state of California does it again!
The Link to the above quote is: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/70314-i-don-t-know-what-frightens-me-more-the-power-that
LA woke DA George Gascon has survived a recall. How could that be you ask?
This is another curve ball from the big blue state of California. Gascon as you should know, was facing a recall. The petition to recall has been found insufficient to qualify for a ballot. Those seeking to recall the radical Gascon needed 566,857 signatures. They got 715,833 petition signatures. We know what they do to American citizens in California don't we?
Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorded/County Clerk Dean C. Logan said his office had completed the examination of all 715,833 petition signatures submitted for the recall of Gascon and guess what? They found that 195,783 signatures were found to be invalid. That is a whopping 22% of all the signatures submitted to rid the city of this monster.
Consider this: In the biggest absentee mail-in ballot contest, by far, in the nation's history, California only had a rejection rate of 0.8%.
"In 2020 , voters cast 70,550,699 absentee/mail-in ballots in the general election. Of these, 560,177 (0.8%) of which were rejected. By comparison, absentee/mail-in ballot rejection rates in 2018 and 2016 were 1.4% and 1.0%, respectively. [1]"
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots
Yet in California where Gov Newsom survived a recall with an even higher percentage of rejections, one is left to question the integrity of democrats. ( before somebody interjects here, Newsom had to face the "voters" - we know who votes in CA) While we can understand the zeal of radical CA officials to disqualify as many signatures as possible, are we to believe that these same officials were as scrupulous when analyzing the legality of the mail-in ballots Californians cast in the 2020 presidential election?
The state of California led the nation in the rate of mail-in ballots cast:
The voting experience in 2020
"A slim majority of voters (54%) say they voted in person this November, compared with 46% who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot. About one-quarter (27%) report having voted in person on Election Day, and an identical share say they voted in person before Election Day."
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/11/20/the-voting-experience-in-2020/
Meanwhile big blue California was way out of whack with the national average. In the 2020 election a whopping 86% of California voters voted by mail-in ballot:
And 99.4% of the signatures were found to be valid!
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/historical-absentee
This is the same state that allows illegal migrants to go to DMV to get a driver's license, where they also get a chance to register to vote. On the form it asks if one is a citizen. I think everyone knows by now that nobody is checking to see if the proper box is checked. It's kind of an honor system and if one lies they end up being a 'legally registered voter."
This is the same state that refused to turn over it's voter rolls to the federal government a few years ago.
It seems as though the only time democrats believe in voter integrity or scrutinizing signatures on absentee ballots is when it is necessary to protect their officeholders from accountability.
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Bad news for Los Angeles minority/Hispanic community.
One of the worst cities in the nation.
A typical, totally clueless, right-wing diatribe. Even better, it comes from someone WHO HAS NEVER BEEN TO LOS ANGELES!
Furthermore, it is illegal for a non-citizen to register to vote in California.
The propaganda in the article is just more reactionary blather.
Makes you wonder how many times this has to be debunked here or anywhere.
CA voter registration requires an SSN and DoB, in person or online.
Your link to a report from Faux News about the fraudulent claims of The Elections Delusion Project, a republican/tea party pressure group that supports trump's Big Lie, proves nothing.
See Comment 1.1.4
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I would suggest that if you haven't lived there or don't currently live there
you shouldn't embarrass yourself by quoting Tomi Lahren about California.
( she's never lived there either )
Faux News was reporting about the delusions of a group of tea party freaks. That doesn't make their delusions reality.
Doesn't really matter if they print such baseless trash that provides zero evidence of any actual voter fraud but just ignorantly claims things like:
So ZERO evidence, just a whole lot of hot air and dip shit assumptions.
I know most of the right wing conservatives here have never been to a CA DMV but to claim its easy to get a license or that you just get automatically enrolled as a voter is total horse shit. I had to go back three times last time I renewed my license because they needed my social security card, birth certificate, billing invoice from a credit card, my residential lease and a utility bill with name and address on it. There is no such thing as just easy licensing or careless voter registration.
Provide proof there is any widespread voter fraud or thousands of illegals voting in CA or else you've just proven once again how sad bitter right wing conservatives are simply using the false claim, the 'big lie' of election fraud, because they know they can't win an election without cheating. The only proven 'widespread voter fraud' is the lie about voter fraud some bigots use as an excuse to write added voter restrictions in an effort to disenfranchise minority voters they know tend to vote Democrat.
Gee, that's a surprise, NOT
What metrics and from which site?
You don't have a meme or a cartoon to go along with that?
Thanks, but I'll wait for teacher to answer.
Shantaram?
Apparently the words of a former heroin addict and bank robber turned journalist are as meaningful as the opinions of a dead French economist from 1850.
Lady in the red dress looks like a lawyer, Donald should interview her ... he could not do any worse than he already has.
I have no idea, I thought it should be enshrined so that one and all could come up with 4 or 5 assorted reasons over the week.
Have neither read nor watched it.
There is you're answer. You must memorize it for tomorrow.
Par for the course coming from you, a humorist you are not ... appears one cannot ask 'teacher' a rational question [removed]
Kind of insulting. Not much I can do today. I'll wait for tomorrow.
How about something from this country?
Comparing a petition drive to voting is incredibly disingenuous.
As far as the signatures on the petition.
That's a lot of people risking the penalty of perjury under CA Election Codes.
Chapter 2. Petitions And Petition Signers :: California Elections Code :: 2009 California Code :: California Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
Conservatives are tired, aren't they? Always looking over into somebody else yards trying to find something to complain against! It sucks to be jealous! Yes, it does conservatives. It really does!
Jealous of Los Angeles? I can find homeless people and crime anywhere on the west coast. Why would I need all the crime to go with it?
You can even find it in Florida: " Is homelessness a big problem in Florida? according to the U.S. Council on Homelessness there is. New data released on Tuesday shows Florida has the third-largest homeless population in the country at 27,487 and counting. It also showed public school data reported to the U.S. Department of Education during the 2018-2019 school year, an estimated 91,068 public school students experienced homelessness over the course of the year. Economist say the lack of affordable housing is the primary factor leading to homelessness here in the SunShine State, This as most people who become homeless in Florida have extremely low incomes making it difficult to maintain rental housing."
I'll leave you to digging up Florida crime statistics from:
www.islamicinvitationturkey
So if something is wrong in FL blame it on Biden and if something is right in FL praise DeSantis. @!@
Thanx for the link, if I ever decide to own a car again I'll look them up.
I don't have to dig up anything. People vote with their feet:
"Florida's population continues to swell, due largely to a national high in migration and immigration numbers.
The Sunshine State's net migration and immigration gain of 259,480 was the most in the country between July 1, 2020 and July 1, 2021, Florida Politics reported Monday.
Census Bureau data showed that 220,890 people moved to Florida from other states, Washington, D.C, or Puerto Rico, making it the nation's top destination for domestic migration. The Sunshine State's population also added 38,590 immigrants, the most in the nation."
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Next time I want to bake a cake I'll ask you how to roast a chicken.
Florida has a shortage of over 9,000 teachers at last count.
Florida has a shortage of LEO's
13.2 % of the population is uninsured 4th highest in the nation.
The 25 largest counties' wages are well below the national average.
Huge environmental problems many of which are being exasperated by climate change.
Shortage of insurance companies with more pulling out this past year. The Florida legislature is trying to come up with a plan to help cover the shortage. (this is a huge problem with home owner rates skyrocketing)
Like any other state, everything isn't roses.
You can't dispute the fact that people are moving to states like Florida and fleeing states like California.
May I refer the class once again to the famous words of John Keats ?
‘Beauty is truth, truth beauty’
You can refer to anything you want it doesn't make it true or accurate.
I presented facts whether you want to accept them is up to you. As I stated everything isn't roses in any state and yes, people are migrating from CA and other states. It's what has happened in the US for centuries.
I didn't dispute that people were leaving Ca and other states which is clear to anyone that isn't so bias as to not understand there are two sides to every story and also facts on both sides.
Besides we have more people here (from other places) anyway. It is 'normal' migration. Having persistent droughts and wildfires and PG&E making a mess of the place is not helpful either. Neither is some of the blight caused by the homeless (from this state and 'abroad') is not inviting. But, of course, 'wet' and 'oppressive' states can mock those who take in their children so they can be self-interested and indulgence.
But then, they have the nerve to tell California to be cruel ("like me") and your citizens will be oppressed too!
Then why the "h" are you attempting to past judgement on a city that is not interested in what 'you' do? We don't care 'bout what is occurring in Minnesota. Be at rest already. We don't want to be you-that's easy! Figuring out 'hit that respects all people now that is hard. Especially, when we have conservatives here 'itchin' to disrespect somebody if ever allowed the time and space.
Yes! We are fully aware that given the chance to say something positive about Los Angeles - MAGA conservatives would pass it up!
Exactly, you never pass judgment on people or ideas that don't interest you, right?
Huh?
Piss off.
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Can you explain why anyone should take your seed seriously when it compares apples and aardvarks?
Petition signatures have NO relation to signatures on election ballots Vic. NONE. Therefore, your conflation of the two lacks credulity.
Oh, and as for 'the worst', I submit the Michigan GOP to take that prize in this year's primary elections. 5 GOP candidates for Governor were disqualified because of fraudulent signatures on petitions to include them on the ballot.
Calikakistan .... maybe they can hire the Taliban to provide better state security.
They need to bring back this guy:
Police Chief William H Parker
From Wikipedia
Small wonder he is your hero.
Didn't someone tell Parker it's how you cook bacon and not hold a gun?
If you looked carefully, you might have noted the gun's chambers being emptied.....onto the head of Marquette Frye, one can only assume.
I guess Frank Cullotta said it best (in one of those episodes of "Coffee with Cullotta). I don't have the exact quote, but Frank said the real tough guys out in LA were the LA Police.
Yup, that's just the way I want it!
I was 15-16 when he died in 1966, like you at that age my 'thinking' organ was concentrating on other things.
But you live in Massachusetts...
Thank you!
Why? The Police Chief has a CITY of LA jurisdiction, NOT a county or state jurisdiction.
Also, he was the chief of police, and not the district attorney.
Also, he’s been dead for over 50 years.
Sounds and reads like green with jealousy. California is getting the job done and leaving the tired, raggedy, past behind . . . stepping out in faith and the 'old guard' states are falling behind. Go California! Leave the past in your 'wake'!
California officials had better learn how to capture and store water during the wet years.
California officials had better learn how to clear the forest of rotting timber.
California officials had better learn how to punish criminals
California officials had better learn how to treat drug addicts and confine the mentally ill to asylums.
California officials had better clear their voter rolls.
California has no choice but to learn; it's called nature. And home-training used to mean something in this country. We do not stare, we do not mock, we do not covet. What happened to home-training. And no, I will not mock, covet, or stare at those suffering the desperate effects of flooding, fires, snow-storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes.
And the mentally ill and drug addicts are some of "your" children come here because they can't take the oppression and subjugation 'back' home. At least, our streets are 'warm' and due to a lack of rain—dry.
As to the rest of your comment, California will adapt. It has no choice.
Can your 'home' adapt. That is the question.
Massachusetts voters had better learn to vote on issues rather than their personal interests.
What does that even mean? What issues are not personal that you know? Please elaborate.
Let me explain it to you. Here where I am, some of the leading industries are in fact professions, such as education, health, medicine & everything involving healthcare and most importantly research. All of which seem to be beholding to the federal government in some way. We used to have a middle class that worked here but couldn't afford to live here. Our service sector is filled by many who were born in Brazil.
I'm asking our dominant professional class to vote on things like inflation and an open border over their personal comfort. I may be asking a lot.
What you wrote does not follow. How is any of life involving humans not personal to somebody? And what do you do with professional interests that are not connected to people in anyway? MAGA conservatives have a slogan: "America First."
America, our country, is an inert land mass. Clearly, you are talking about people and their personal issues—"First."
I get it we hire politicians, as representatives of the people, to look into our professional and personal interest, in no particular order. You should expect them to to their jobs! And when doing so to do so for all the citizens, not simply those you prefer (not red or blue - both).
Do you expect this nation to care equally and with equity for all its citizens, Vic? If not, how long to you intend to participate in widening the 'divide' between professional and personal issues?
You see a contradiction?
Here is the best example. Illegal migrants given the chance to vote, tend to vote democrat. After all, they know about our politics and everything else going on in our country. That vote is what I call the thank you vote. They know democrats wanted them here so they give them that vote regardless of the issues. You may have noticed a strange thing is taking place. Second & third generation Hispanic Americans are leaving the democratic party. The reason: the issues! Hispanic Americans have come to realize that their concerns conflict with the ideology of the democratic party. Hispanics are very religious, family oriented and believe in the work ethic. All things the democratic party reject.
You're just making stuff up as you go . . . .
Such as?
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? I'm sorry to put it that way, but it does come off rather petty.
First, this is about people and their problems ('back home' where they come from and here once they settle). Second, conservatives issue with migrants who want to become citizens (or "Dreamers") is to welcome them. Simply drop your rocks and a quantity of legal immigrants will be grateful to conservatives and vote what is in their hearts too. Be a problem solver instead of a group of demonizers, mockers, and worse. Third, it is a sad 'day' for this country that conservatives have to question liberal motivations so "deep" that you hurt innocent people, because of a political stance that is easily remedied but conservatives are scare or too evil to take the 'medicine' reason provides (in my "Second"). Fourth, most migrants are just like people elsewhere and in our country. That is, they are arriving here desperate and afraid of what kind of treatment they will face: Thus, they are "open" to any group or persons who will give them - wait for it. . . kindness.
Is kindness such an 'off the table' topic for conservatives that it never crosses your minds how easy it is to extend to hurting people who are 'bridged' between a rock (home) and a hard place (our border)?
Yes, conservatives could succeed in a "win-win" for both parties! But for self-interests and self-indulgence to wanting it 'all' or nothing!
I am going to leave this delusion that this country amounts to what is because of the "work ethics" of conservatives (alone) for you to cherish. It is a lie, to be sure. We are all necessary to the whole of this country. I don't lead so-called red states out of the work and you should not leave out the blue states! Competing against your 'right' or 'left' arm is well, petty and stupid.
Come back.
Piss off.
Illegal migrants cannot and do not vote, they try to stay undetected.
Such is your opinion.
You cannot give something you don't have.
Where? Here is frightening enough.
As they should. Given equal opportunities for the pursuit of life liberty and happiness
their opinions should be diverse and not tied to a church or ethnic identity in a perfect
world.
Possible, not likely. Just more partisan hopefulness.
I would amend that to say that it might tend to be true for first and second generations,
third generation, not so much as they become members of the melting pot although the
work ethic usually continues, even for the gang bangers.
And there you go with another wild ass sweeping generalization that only exposes your
own sad opinion and tears down any possibility of respect for that sad opinion.
No, you're asking them (why just them? Why not everyone? It is a "mystery") you are asking them to accept your opinion of why there is inflation and then vote accordingly.
It goes something like "The dictator Biden and the autocratic Democratic Party are the sole cause of inflation, crime and the open border, allowing drugs, rapists, queer folk and other assorted bad people into our great country.... blah gargle blah"
Espero que mis hermanos y hermanas hayan visto eso.
The muscular class is already doing it.
Not all of them.
I married into second generation and believe me, the 3rd generation is nothing like us.
The fourth will not be bilingual or at least have any accent when speaking English.
It's a good thing.
There haven't been and 'wet years' for a decade.
The State of California only has jurisdiction over 3% of the forest land there.
Right, because there are no prosecutions or prisons in CA.
Massachusetts has a higher drug use rate than CA.
NO 'asylums' exist in the US.
They have and continue to.
Oct 16 - Sept 17 was a wet year.
And that's the way it is.....
Yep, over 10% who signed were found to be unregistered and some think voter fraud doesn’t exist. Amazing!
signing a petition is now voter fraud?
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People who will falsely fill out a petition would likely have no problem doing the same when voting.
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“Yep, over 10% who signed were found to be unregistered and some think voter fraud doesn’t exist. Amazing!”
And should any of those ballots be cast, they are dismissed during the count and/or set aside for verification. Perhaps you should volunteer to become an election judge and you will see for yourself just how nearly impossible it is for ‘fraud’ to occur.
Step up or shut up.
I’ve been a poll watcher in several elections. They wouldn’t take me the last couple because elections have become too partisan.
You see, I’m not a Democrat or Republican and they wouldn’t let independents inside the curtain anymore.
Time for you to shut up now .....
... probably because teabags are republicans.
“I’ve been a poll watcher in several elections.”
Good on you.
Given that, why cast aspersions and contribute to the dialogue that casts doubt upon the integrity of our election process?
Or do I call bullshit on your claim?
Perjury
California Election law 100 - 106
That is the responsibility of the organizers of the recall and there is NO relation to voter fraud.
It’s directly related to people who are willing to lie on such documents. It’s simply obtuse think if they were willing to lie on one they wouldn’t on the other.
Simply obtuse.
That implicates a crap load of GOP supporters Sparty.
The FACT is, it is up to the petitioner to vet and remove unqualified signatures before the petitions are submitted.
In short, the signatories were unethical but did not commit a crime.
It's simply obtuse to equate signing a county petition with the state felony.
It implicates anyone who has no problem being that dishonest.
Wrong. Their are possible misdemeanor and felony charges in Michigan Election Law for that, including but not limited to, one person using multiple names on the same petition. Sec 168.544c
You are wrong again.
The signatures and recall were in LA county CALIFORNIA Sparty.
You're blathering about the WRONG fucking [state Deleted]
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I was talking about dishonesty and you deflected to legality. To which I gave you our states law since Michigan is not quite as bat shit crazy yet as they are on the left coast.
Back on topic of my original comment. People who will lie on a petition will lie when voting. Regardless of state of residence. That is only a stretch to people with an agenda. My only agenda is honesty and integrity. Two traits in very short supply on the left these days.
Then perhaps you should have refrained from posting in this seed.
Utter bullshit Sparty. In your 5.1.1 comment you made it about legality by citing voter fraud.
Sparty, 5 GOP gubernatorial candidates were disqualified from the primary ballot because of forged and unqualified signatures on the petitions they submitted. It that a regular occurrence in MI or have things gotten pretty fucking bat shit crazy there?
Yes, I understood your unfounded assumption the first time you posted it.
Well then BOTH MI and CA GOP voters should be scrutinized during the 2022 election.
Virtue signaling in one sentence and proving it false in the next. Well done.
Or perhaps not.
Nope, not bullshit, not at all.
Yeah, Dems worked extra hard at brooming the real competition and then spent heavily on the Rep who they felt they had the best chance at. Tudor. Now that is some weak assed shit there.
No you didn’t. Clearly you didn’t.
Yep, agreed. Both should be equally scrutinized and vetted. Fat chance of that happening.
Lol .... honesty and integrity is virtue signaling? Yeah, sounds about right considering.
Are you positing that voter fraud has nothing to do with legality Sparty?
What ever happened to the conservative value of personal responsibility? The forgery and unqualified Republican signatures are all the Democrat's fault. The GOP candidates and their petitioners have no responsibility for their actions and omissions.
Ya, that's the ticket Sparty. /s
Talk about weak assed shit.
Clearly you didn't recognize that I characterized your assumption as unfounded. Just as with your comment, mine is an opinion, though at least mine is based on the content of your comments.
I can't wait for the exploding heads when MI and CA announce that GOP voters will be scrutinized and vetted based on their signatures on an election petition.
Claiming them as your agenda sure as fuck is.
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... expecting honesty and integrity in a process, is not virtue signaling. It’s simply a reasonable expectation in a civil society.
For reasonable folks that is ....
Claiming honesty and integrity as your 'only agenda' is, especially when your next sentence fails to meet that standard.
Yet your comments are rarely if ever civil and almost always partisan.
The projection built into that comment is exponential.
The projection built into that comment is galactic.
Lol ..... the old PeeWee Herman gambit ..... funny!
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They did that once didn't they?
That was the time they tried to apprehend the guy who was on super performance enhancing drugs and it took about a dozen cops to get control of him. LA was allowed to be put to the torch and then they gave the thug who resisted arrest a small fortune. He later admitted that ya, he was high.
I believe it may have even been the inspiration for a song:
Comment 5.2 is an example of the hatred and rage that consumes America's reactionary extremists.
So sad, so very sad.
I know, it is sad when the truth hurts some folks so intensely.
So, so sad .....
Well, I hope you don't feel too badly. Try to accept the truth and maybe you will feel better.
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Right, because Vic's example of truth is that a 2001 song inspired the 1991 Rodney King beating and/or the 1994 settlement.
Ya, that 'truth hurts'. /s
Too bad all y’all just can’t get along.
Vic, you only complain that the "Law Doesn't Work" when something you wanted to happen doesn't happen like you wanted it to.
88,000 not registered? That sounds like a huge oversite on the part of the petition gatherers.
Ditto with the 43,000 that signed more than once and the 5,000 out of county voters.
I thought those were questions you were supposed to ask before you got a signature on a petition. They are usually the questions that are asked first, like," Pardon me. We have a petition to recall the DA in LA county. Are you a registered voter in the county? Have you signed the petition already?" Standard, boilerplate petition signing stuff.
So, instead of lashing out at the County, why don't you lash out a the organizers of the petition drive? That should be where your anger is placed.
Does anyone know what's wrong with Thomas little assessment?
Hands please
I see nothing wrong with Thomas's 'little' assessment.
I see the truth in his 'little' assessment.
I'm not sure what small hands mean.
Here I am with these big hands. We are all human, right?
Your honor, I wish to introduce exhibit A
So you pretend that you have large hands. We know what you're trying to allege
A deflection since you have no honest rebuttal to Thomas's truthful statements.
What I have is your assertion that Thomas's statements are what you call the truth.
Your assertion is now exhibit A.
I'm still giving people time to discover what is wrong with Thomas's assertion. Remember what someone famous said: "Have patience and follow the facts"
Surely not all of us teacher, what about those 'far left radical feminists' you learnin' us aboot?
They started out human. I will remind you that Satan was originally an Angel.
Careful Vic, your avatar is going to get jealous of a fictional character.
You present a fictional character from a TV program as exhibit A....
LMAO, perfect for the Twilight Zone.
The character might be fictional but Erle Stanley Gardner was real. He gave us an example of what a lawyer should be. Every once in a while I bring that character back to life....whenever I make a salient point. Since we are speaking of lawyers and the topic happens to be California, it just came to me. My favorite lawyer lives there and goes by the screen name of The Strategy Gaming Dojo!
Wrong.
Does anyone see the mistake Kavika made?
He didn't make a mistake.
You on the other hand . . . . .
Shall we tell them?
Ok
Mason is not exhibit A. Exhibit A = Tessylo's declaration of what "truth" is.
Are you saying he didn't make a mistake?
That's going to be exhibit B. In other words he must have made a mistake!
When you make up stuff someone is bound to make a mistake.
Yes
Wrong. Wrong in life, wrong in Perry Mason fiction
and wrong here.
6.1.4 stands as Exhibit A
Changing that and then mocking people for "making a mistake" is a ticket.
This is locked for the RA to review.