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Requiem for a young Republican

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  2 years ago  •  135 comments

Requiem for a young Republican
“But there is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and that is a threat to this country....Joe Biden

https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/trending/read-transcript-president-joe-bidens-speech-philadelphia/VDRBTNXYEBG4XM2ZSFDLNESI4Y/


Cayler Ellingson was only 18 years old. His life came to an end Sunday morning after a heated political argument with 41 year old Shannon Brandt. Brandt killed Ellingson with his SUV in an alley. Ellingson you see, was a Republican and the president recently called certain Republicans. Biden said they were a threat to the very foundation of the Republic. Brandt has been charged with vehicular homicide and leaving the scene of a deadly accident.  Brandt quickly left the scene of the incident and was arrested at his home. He is free on $50,000 bond.

Mr Brandt seems to have little remorse. He claims that he was drunk at the time as if it were some kind of excuse. Brandt didn't care for the bail amount, saying he was not a flight risk.

"I have a job, a life and a house and things that I don't exactly want to see go by the wayside — family that are very important to me," he said."

"Brandt admitted to striking the pedestrian with his car because he had a political argument with the pedestrian and believed the pedestrian was calling people to come get him," the court document continues. "

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-dakota-man-admitted-killing-republican-teen-his-life-job-jeopardized

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Shannon Brandt, 41, is charged in the vehicular death of a North Dakota teenager he claimed occurred after a political argument.  (Foster County Sheriff)


"Brandt reportedly called 911 to report the crash, authorities said. Authorities said he was allegedly drunk at the time. Court documents said he told a 911 dispatcher the teen was part of a Republican "extremist group" and was calling people to go after him following an unspecified political argument. "

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-dakota-man-kills-teen-vehicle-political-dispute-victim-republican-extremist


Joe Biden and his fellow democrats show little signs that they will tone down the rhetoric.

This is what comes of demonizing one's opponents. 




Sources:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-dakota-man-admitted-killing-republican-teen-his-life-job-jeopardized

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-dakota-man-kills-teen-vehicle-political-dispute-victim-republican-extremist

https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/trending/read-transcript-president-joe-bidens-speech-philadelphia/VDRBTNXYEBG4XM2ZSFDLNESI4Y/


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

Where is the msm on this story?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago

Wrong optics- so they are ignoring it.

Now a Trump supporter running over a Democrat is something they can sink their teeth into! I am sure they looked very long and hard at this to make sure that it wasn't the case. Soon as they received confirmation the story was in the recycle bin.

Can't have people seeing how hypocritical Democrats and the Jan 6th commission is after they stayed silent about Brandon's calling Republicans and Trump supporters semi-fascists; and claiming they are all violent extremists. A deranged lunatic leftist acted on Brandon's claims? Not on the MSM's watch.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago
Where is the msm on this story?

they're probably too busy covering the on going drama of a seditious traitor and his criminal spawn.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 years ago

You bet!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 years ago

So they are making shit up again, like normal. Good to know.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.2    2 years ago

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devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.2    2 years ago

no worries, you won't be exposed to it on any of your primary media choices...

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
1.2.5  dennissmith  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 years ago

Are you saying they cannot multitask?

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.3  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago
Where is the msm on this story?

It was an MSN headline yesterday.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 years ago

And we are supposed to believe that Biden isn't a divisive President.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3  devangelical    2 years ago

bfd.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @3    2 years ago

Funny you sang a different tune last week when the subject came up of a dem woman getting run over in Charlottesville.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    2 years ago

that's bullshit, although my non-empathy towards any supporters of insurrectionists is accurate.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    2 years ago
that's bullshit,

No, it is the truth, which may explain why you seem to have difficulty even recognizing it.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    2 years ago
my non-empathy towards any supporters of insurrectionists is accurate.

Does that include the CHAZ insurrectionists?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    2 years ago
No, it is the truth

here's your big chance to prove it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    2 years ago

"that's bullshit, although my non-empathy towards any supporters of insurrectionists is accurate."

jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg

One of his pals was claiming that Heather Hayer was a counter protestor - a loud mouth screeching counter protestor - engaged in a riot when some kindly soul drove into the crowd inuring some and ran her over and murdered her.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.1.4    2 years ago
here's your big chance to prove it.

Your own posts prove it daily, so no need to post anything, I'll just let your own words speak for themselves.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    2 years ago
Your own posts prove it daily, so no need to post anything, I'll just let your own words speak for themselves.

= you can't prove it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @3    2 years ago

It must be a sad life when your comment to somebody getting killed is "BFD".  Almost like you support this kind of partisan murder.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    2 years ago
Almost like you support this kind of partisan murder.

Hey, what can one expect when someone thinks that all people not agreeing with them are conservative Christian thumpers, who deserve to die merely because they believe?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.1    2 years ago
conservative Christian thumpers, who deserve to die

how many times must I remind you that right wing thumpers aren't real Christians.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.2.2    2 years ago
how many times must I remind you that right wing thumpers aren't real Christians.

Now, that has to be one of the most stupid posts I have read of yours, which is a real feat in itself.

You couldn't recognize a real Christian if you tried, which obviously you don't.

You are too busy fantasizing about killing them.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @3.2.2    2 years ago

And what puts you in a position to make the distinction of who is and who isn't a Christian?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    2 years ago

Almost like you support this kind of partisan murder.

how ironic, but no, I don't care what happens to people that willfully chose the wrong side of american patriotism.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.4    2 years ago
And what puts you in a position to make the distinction of who is and who isn't a Christian

Some atheists are stupid enough to think that alone makes them 'experts' on Christianity.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.2.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    2 years ago
Almost like you support this kind of partisan murder.

There is also the possibility that someone may simplify not be willing to put forth the intellectual effort required to post something non-idiotic on the subject.

Although I guess the two are not mutually exclusive.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.8  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.3    2 years ago
You are too busy fantasizing about killing them

I don't fantasize about killing Christians...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.2.8    2 years ago
I don't fantasize about killing Christians...

I have read far too many of your posts to buy that crap from you, sorry.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.4    2 years ago
what puts you in a position to make the distinction of who is and who isn't a Christian

the new testament.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.11  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.9    2 years ago

re: 3.2.2

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @3.2.5    2 years ago
the wrong side of american patriotism.

And I'm supposed to believe YOU are the authority of what side of American patriotism is?  Sorry.  I've seen too much of your BS to even remotely believe you think let alone be in any kind of authority position.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.2.13  Snuffy  replied to  devangelical @3.2.10    2 years ago
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @3.2.10    2 years ago

So a book of fiction.  One that you cherry pick from and that tells you to kill non-believers, women who aren't virgins when they wed and not to eat sea food.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.2.11    2 years ago

A repeat look at sheer stupidity? No thanks!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.3    2 years ago
You are too busy fantasizing about killing them.

His  hate filled and violence fetishizing  posts are  the best refutation of  "liberal tolerance" going.  

One could believe he's  a right winger involved in some sort deep con of left wingers for all the damage he does to the progressive image.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.16    2 years ago

Yeah, his own words always give him away.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Jack_TX @3.2.7    2 years ago

You're the guy who was saying Heather Hayer was a loud mouth screeching protestor engaged in a riot at the time - when a white supremacist plowed into the crowd, injuring many, and killing Heather.

I guess she had it coming huh?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4  Buzz of the Orient    2 years ago

I see a lot of demonizing the liberals by the conservatives on this site, Vic.  Surely you have to admit that you've seen it too.  What has been worrying me, and I've posted my fears of it a few times on NT, is that a kind of civil war is developing in America.  I started to get the impression when the lesser things were happening, like tearing down neighbours' political signs, then there were the stories that restaurants refused to serve or even seat persons whose politics differed, and then there are the stories of family get-togethers where close relatives have to be careful what they say to each other, and now there is this, and I believe it will increase, and who knows what will happen when the results of the midterms come out. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 years ago
I see a lot of demonizing the liberals by the conservatives on this site, Vic.

I have to disagree on that one. Most of our members here are liberals and it is their rhetoric that has been over the top. How many pictures do we see on seeds and articles demonizing Trump and his supporters? There was even one who called Republicans "white supremacists" on a daily basis. Just take a look at Post 3.


and who knows what will happen when the results of the midterms come out. 

WE already know who isn't going to like those results.



 
 
 
Sunshine
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4.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 years ago
I have to disagree on that one. Most of our members here are liberals and it is their rhetoric that has been over the top.

Definitely.  A lot of death wishing by the intolerant left.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 years ago

You're entitled to your opinion, even if it differs from mine. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.2    2 years ago

I only wish everyone had that attitude.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 years ago
then there were the stories that restaurants refused to serve or even seat persons whose politics differed

This has gotten to the point of politicians demanding this.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2    2 years ago

Sorry, Jeremy, but I can't open your link.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.1    2 years ago

It's a video of Democratic representative Maxine Waters yelling to a crowd of liberal supporters encouraging them to harass members of the Trump Administration and Trump supporters in general whenever they see them in public.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @4.2.2    2 years ago

Thanks, Jack.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.3  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 years ago
"I see a lot of demonizing the liberals by the conservatives on this site, Vic.  Surely you have to admit that you've seen it too."
jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg

I see it here every day Buzz.  Every day.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 years ago

As a nation, we've been here before.

We're basically re-living the 1970s.

We came through that and we'll come through this.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.4.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @4.4    2 years ago

I think it was the 1960s - npr posted an article about it yesterday. (LINK) ->

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.4.1    2 years ago

I'm sticking with the 70s.

Massive black swan economic event- oil embargo/covid

Corrupt controversial president - Nixon/Trump

Followed by elderly, feeble, president- Carter/Biden

Anti-Asia bias -  Japan/China

Race riots

High inflation

Spiraling real estate costs

American soccer teams hiring ancient former European stars.

It's deja-vu all over again.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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4.4.3  Nowhere Man  replied to  Jack_TX @4.4.2    2 years ago

Major difference between then and now?

Only the rabble rouser activists were calling for riots and burning down the cities, Democrats were calling for calm measured responses and for people to relax and let the government work... NOW, Democrat politicians in power are calling for anarchy and the government is actively working for it......

Huge difference...

 
 
 
JBB
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4.4.4  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @4.4.2    2 years ago

My grandparent's savings accounts were earning twelve to fourteen percent in the 1970s. These last few years my savings account paid one. Unemployment in the 1970s was somewhere between seven and ten percent if I remember. Definitely not the same...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.4.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.4.4    2 years ago

How'd you like that stock market today?

Still thinking Biden and Co. are some sort of financial geniuses?

Looks like gas is going back up, too.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.4.6  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.5    2 years ago

Why do some think a PotUS can control the stock market; especially when measured in such short durations?     jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.4.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.6    2 years ago

I don't think he does, I do know that Presidents try to take credit when the market goes up or gas prices come down but distance themselves from the opposite. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.4.8  TᵢG  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.4.7    2 years ago

Many PotUS' have taken credit for a rising stock market and deflected when it is down.    It is a vicious cycle that perpetuates with the people that the president of the USA has such influence over the market.   Same basic cycle with the economy.   If one is PotUS' one's popularity is going to be heavily based on the economy — which they cannot control.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.9  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.6    2 years ago
Why do some think a PotUS can control the stock market; especially when measured in such short durations? 

Gee, I don't know, why don't you ask one who believes it?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.4.10  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.9    2 years ago

You do not blame Biden for a down stock market?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.11  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.10    2 years ago
You do not blame Biden for a down stock market?

Is THAT what you read in my post?

jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.4.12  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.11    2 years ago

Is it really so scary to answer a direct question?

TiG@4.4.6Why do some think a PotUS can control the stock market; especially when measured in such short durations? 

Texan@4.4.9Gee, I don't know, why don't you ask one who believes it?

TiG@4.4.10You do not blame Biden for a down stock market?

Your refusal to answer clearly shows that you blame Biden for a down stock market.   Thus you think he can control it and has failed to do so.

You attribute far too much power to the presidency.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.13  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.12    2 years ago
Is it really so scary to answer a direct question

Must be, because I asked you two direct questions and you refused to answer, so I will assume it IS too scary for you.

Your refusal to answer clearly shows that you blame Biden for a down stock market.   Thus you think he can control it and has failed to do so.

Ah, the all-knowing TiG will now astound the world and tell me what I think!  jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

You attribute far too much power to the presidency.

What I see is you 'thinking' you know what I think and telling me all about it.

Pray tell, what powers have I attributed to the President? Show your work and actually quote me, not what you 'think' I meant. Doing it your way--telling me what I never said, telling me what I think--and then arguing what you invent--is intellectually dishonest and extremely lazy.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.4.14  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.13    2 years ago

Your post was all deflection.

Deflecting from a simple question typically delivers the answer.

Clearly you believe a PotUS should be blamed / credited for the performance of the stock market.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.15  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.14    2 years ago
Deflecting from a simple question typically delivers the answer.

Yes, your refusal to answer even one of my questions seems to be proving too difficult for you.

Clearly you believe a PotUS should be blamed / credited for the performance of the stock market.

Just can't control yourself from telling me what I think, eh?

I repeat, a piss-poor way to debate--invent things others say and then poorly attempt to argue your invented 'points'.

Intellectually LAZY AND DISHONEST tactics.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.4.16  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.15    2 years ago

I do not see any denial in your trolling comment.   Just more making things personal with a silly piss and vinegar smokescreen to deflect from answering a very simple, direct question.

Well, Texan, it is incorrect and naïve to hold that a PotUS has control over the stock market.   A PotUS can certainly act in ways that will adversely affect the market (e.g. declaring war) so the negative influence potential is there ... but it is not controllable.   On the flipside, a PotUS has very little influence to make the market better.   If they could, they would ... right?    And all this goes for the economy too.

Bottom line, the stock market is an incredibly complex system that is affected by myriad planetary actions (many not even financially related).   There is no point thinking that it can be controlled or even predictably influenced by anyone.    We have some blunt instrument tools, but for the most part the market operates under its own volition — somewhat like a ball bouncing between irregular stone walls.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.17  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.14    2 years ago
How'd you like that stock market today?

Still thinking Biden and Co. are some sort of financial geniuses?

Looks like gas is going back up, too.

Now, in what kind of fucked-up world does THAT equate to this shit:

Your refusal to answer clearly shows that you blame Biden for a down stock market.   Thus you think he can control it and has failed to do so. You attribute far too much power to the presidency.
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.18  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.16    2 years ago
I do not see any denial in your trolling comment.

Deny WHAT, TiG?

That you invent shit and then argue against yourself?????

Well, Texan, it is incorrect and naïve to hold that a PotUS has control over the stock market.

Which is WHY I never said that, despite you 'reading' what I never wrote. Just ONE time I would like to see you quote me for any of the shit you assign to me.  I guess it can never happen, though, because then what could you possibly argue?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.4.19  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.17    2 years ago

You wrote:

Texan@4.4.5 ☞ How'd you like that stock market today?   Still thinking Biden and Co. are some sort of financial geniuses?

You speak of the stock market and then refer to Biden in a pejorative fashion related to his 'financial genius'.

If you do not think Biden has control over the stock market, why would you even mention him and his 'financial genius'.

You keep answering the question in spite of yourself.    (This is now simply amusing.)

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.20  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.19    2 years ago
You speak of the stock market and then refer to Biden in a pejorative fashion related to his 'financial genius'.

The poster who that was directed at has professed such sentiments before, giving Biden and Co. credit for everything good in the economy.  Do you understand it yet?

Okay, now tell me what I wrote is somehow different than the words in front of you and what I 'really' meant.

You refuse to answer questions, tell me what I think, and then get indignant when I call you out on your lazy, cheap tactics. 

Don't reply, unless you insist on the last word.

In that case, have at it!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.4.21  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.20    2 years ago

I understand that you think Biden should be blamed for bad turns in the stock market.   Quite obvious given your repeated deflections.

It is naïve to think that any PotUS has predictable influence over the stock market.    The market (and, more importantly, the economy) raise/lower the tide of a PotUS' popularity;  it is the market (and the economy) that have significant influence over the PotUS — not the other way around.

Now let's see if for once you actually will give me the last word.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.4.22  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.8    2 years ago

JR needs to hear you.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

We can also see what kind of people support Biden.

 
 
 
Thomas
Senior Guide
5.1  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    2 years ago

Your statement:

We can also see what kind of people support Biden.

So all Biden supporters are the same? That is a sweeping generalization, by definition. Biden supporters span the gamut of incomes and educational levels and, one would have to imagine, levels of wisdom from the blind follower to the studied logician. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6  Greg Jones    2 years ago

"I see a lot of demonizing the liberals by the conservatives on this site, Vic."

OTOH.....I see a lot of demonizing of the conservatives by the liberals on this site, Buzz.

It goes both ways

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @6    2 years ago
It goes both ways

Much heavier on the liberal side.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    2 years ago
"Much heavier on the liberal side."

That is not true, Vic, the fact is that it DOES go both ways and the division is just getting wider and wider and tearing the nation apart and your comment just helps to exacerbate it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.1    2 years ago
That is not true,

It is absolutely true and btw the two sides happen to be the radical left vs the American people!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    2 years ago

We differ, Vic, so our opinions differ as well.  You're an American and a right-winger so your comments follow suit.  I'm not an American, I don't live in America but I've been close to America most of my life and I'm very familiar with America and Americans but I have no skin in the game, I believe I'm centrist and I think I can be a lot more objective about what I observe.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.3    2 years ago

Ahh Buzz, I only wish the world was like the movie Witness, with well defined good guys and bad guys.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    2 years ago

Actually, just think of how peaceful the world would be if it were all Amish. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.5    2 years ago

Or Nordic...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.6    2 years ago

Buy up as much land in Greenland as you can afford.  With global warming, it will be worth a fortune. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.7    2 years ago

I hate to tell you this, but the phrase "global warming" was ditched the first year we got colder. It is now called "climate change."

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    2 years ago

The weather and the climate are different (albeit related) systems.   The planet continues to warm, oceans continue to grow more acidic given they are sinks for carbon, water levels continue to rise, weather patterns continue to be affected by the changes, and the CO2 concentration in our atmosphere continues to grow at an unsustainable rate.

It is a naïve mistake to gauge climate change by observing the weather.   That is like gauging the long term viability of a stock like Microsoft in 1986 by watching its hourly fluctuations during trading.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
6.1.10  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    2 years ago
but the phrase "global warming" was ditched the first year we got colder. It is now called "climate change."

"Climate change" is a much safer term, because the cultist, manipulating, fearmongers can use the term for either colder or warmer.

 
 
 
Thomas
Senior Guide
6.1.11  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    2 years ago

Much heavier on the liberal side.

And the ironic punchline

It is absolutely true and btw the two sides happen to be the radical left vs the American people!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.1.10    2 years ago

Do you actually deny that the greenhouse gases in our atmosphere are increasing (47% higher than at the beginning of the industrial age) and that our planet is almost 1°C warmer since the beginning of the industrial age and is increasing at about 0.2°C each decade and that these factors are dominant in climate change (the planetary-wide broad scale changes in climate measured by factors such as temperature, water level, extreme weather patterns, etc.)?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
6.1.13  Jasper2529  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.12    2 years ago

I reread my comment 6.1.10 but cannot find any indication of my denying or confirming anything. Your accusations are, once again , unfounded and, quite frankly ... unwelcome . Please stop. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
6.1.14  George  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.1.13    2 years ago

[REMOVED]

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.1.13    2 years ago

When a sentence ends in a question mark, that is an invitation for the interlocutor to opine. In this case, I was asking you to opine on the implication of your words.

Your words imply that you deny climate change is real.   Read what you wrote:

Jasper@6.1.10 ☞ Climate change" is a much safer term, because the cultist, manipulating, fearmongers can use the term for either colder or warmer.

Your reference to “cultist, manipulating, fearmongers” does not leave a reader with the impression that you accept climate science.

Ergo I asked you to clear this up.   I asked you a question.

Instead of answering, you deflect.

Your refusal to answer a direct question suggests that my assumption is correct that you deny the findings of science that I enumerated.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.1.13    2 years ago
I reread my comment 6.1.10 but cannot find any indication of my denying or confirming anything. Your accusations are, once again , unfounded and, quite frankly ... unwelcome . Please stop. 

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Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
6.1.17  Jasper2529  impassed  TᵢG @6.1.15    2 years ago
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  George @6.1.14    2 years ago
removed for context by charger

Hard to beat a good, free comedy show!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
6.1.19  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.18    2 years ago
Hard to beat a good, free comedy show!

The difference between 'at' and 'with' is immense

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.1.20  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    2 years ago

Whatever.  It doesn't change my advice.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.20    2 years ago

Whatever?

It's not right wing to want safe streets, a secure border and equal justice.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.1.22  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.21    2 years ago

My "whatever" referred to global warming and climate change, and my advice was to buy land in Greenland.  I don't know what you're talking about. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @6    2 years ago

That's the point I was making, Greg.  Both Sides Now - and the division grows wider and wider.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

Between the Democratic official murdering a reporter and this there seems to be a trend developing the last few weeks. .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  JohnRussell    2 years ago

The large percentage of "domestic terrorist" violence, over quite a few years now, is coming from the right. I believe there have been a couple dozen murders committed by far right nutjobs. 

So now you got one from the other side.

Everything's even now. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8    2 years ago

Nope. As always, violence is a tool of the left, going all the way back to the "Weathermen" bombings and the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8    2 years ago
So now you got one from the other side.

We have plenty. You already forgot the day Republicans at a Baseball game were targets?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    2 years ago

Some folks willfully don't seem able to remember things like THAT!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    2 years ago
the day Republicans at a Baseball game were targets

Cased the field for months.  70 rounds fired from the lefts most feared "assault rifle". Steve Scalise critically injured and several others hurt.  All as a “protest” and “talk about taxes,”.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.2    2 years ago

It was covered by the media as if it happened in another country.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.3    2 years ago

Oh naturally.  Don't want the left to look like the murderous kind.  Remember the coverage of Democrat support for the 2020 riots was about the same.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.4    2 years ago
Remember the coverage of Democrat support for the 2020 riots

Vividly:

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Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
8.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8    2 years ago
So now you got one from the other side. Everything's even now.

Depends on what year your baseline starts, if you start in the mid-60's, it's many more than one.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @8    2 years ago

Right John, there are no left wing domestic terrorists. Despite the evidence being overwhelming.

Just ignore the 2020 Summer of Love Antifa/BLM riots.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
9  Ronin2    2 years ago

The fact that Brandt is out on $50,000 bail is ridiculous. 

He murdered someone for their political views by chasing them down and running them over. He even admitted it! He shows no damn remorse of any kind for what he has done. But he is free to go about his with his life until his trial; and possibly murder someone else who doesn't agree with his political views. 

Shows how fucked up our justice system is. 

Still waiting for Democrats to call out Brandon for inciting this event. It is exactly what he was calling for in his hate filled speech. He got exactly what he wanted.

If Trump is guilty of inciting Jan 6th rioters; then Brandon is guilty of inciting this deranged left wing nutjob.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @9    2 years ago
The fact that Brandt is out on $50,000 bail is ridiculous. 

At least he had to pay bail.   Left wing cities you get a doughnut and a ride home after murdering someone.  They are busy enacting purge laws to ensure no criminal is inconvenienced. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @9    2 years ago
Still waiting for Democrats to call out Brandon for inciting this event.

That dipshit doesn't even know it happened as a result of his speech.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10  Jasper2529    2 years ago
Mr Brandt seems to have little remorse.

Why should he? Everyone from Biden, Harris, Maxine Waters, the Squad, Hillary, and other politicians down to Antifa and BLM have never shown any remorse for their violent, divisive, hateful words and actions and what has ensued since then and will continue.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
11  Hal A. Lujah    2 years ago

It’s crazy how this is happening all over the country.  People being murdered in cold blood by the thousands because they were mentally coerced by Biden to do so.  Oh wait … it’s not.  It’s just another single crazy person like always, being used by the right as the boogeyman du jour.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11    2 years ago
People being murdered in cold blood by the thousands because they were mentally coerced 

The irony here...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
11.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1    2 years ago

384

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11    2 years ago

That's all they got Hal

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
Junior Guide
12  Nowhere Man    2 years ago

There is only one thing that will stop this crap... A sound solid defense response...

74% of the people think we are heading for a civil war... I've seen nothing to refute this....

And it's a war that will be ten time bloodier than the last one...

That is what the liberals have wrought... Starting with Hillary Clinton and her deplorable comment... The hate has been direct and palpable ever since...

Why do you think american citizens have been arming themselves at the greatest rate since the country was founded?

WE have a god given right to defend ourselves, that right is enshrined and specifically protected in our founding documents...

All we are waiting on is a spark.... And no one knows what that spark will be...

Biden sounds to me like he is working the lighter striker overtime....

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12.1  devangelical  replied to  Nowhere Man @12    2 years ago
74% of the people think we are heading for a civil war. 

I'm ready, and as an old white guy, I've got a distinct advantage.

it's a war that will be ten time bloodier than the last one...

it will be for those that still can't grasp the full width and breadth of the US Constitution, and it will be finally time to finish that incomplete job from 162 years ago. luckily for american patriots, the xtian nationalists have merged with the fascists for it.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
12.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @12.1    2 years ago
I'm ready, and as an old white guy, I've got a distinct advantage.

So BLM, Antifa, street gangs, and criminals will be sure to kill you first? Especially if you live in any Democrat run bastion of stupidity. 

it will be for those that still can't grasp the full width and breadth of the US Constitution, and it will be finally time to finish that incomplete job from 162 years ago. luckily for american patriots, the xtian nationalists have merged with the fascists for it.

The only fascists are on the left. Democrats in the government prove it each and every day. First they weaponized the IRS against there political opponents. That didn't work, so they branched out to the FBI and DOJ. Turning the military woke and stupid is next on their list.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @12.1.1    2 years ago

sounds like you have the left all dialed in. here's a preview of the trump '24 campaign fashions.

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.2  Tessylo  replied to  Nowhere Man @12    2 years ago

Hillary was right about everything.

Boy that really pisses you off doesn't it!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.3  Tessylo  replied to  Nowhere Man @12    2 years ago

The hate has been direct and palpable ever since...

Yes - we all know the alleged winner, #45, had been stirring up the direct and palpable hatred prior to running for 'president' against Obama with the hateful racist birth certificate bullshit - when he lost he has been stirring up the direct and palpable hatred and inciting his enablers/supporters up until today towards that civil war - 

that all you all lay at the hands of us liberals.

Gee, I missed you NWM.  Where you been?

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igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
12.3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tessylo @12.3    2 years ago
ed you NWM.  Where you been?

i'm guessin, nowhere special, man.

 
 
 
Ringworm
Freshman Silent
13  Ringworm    2 years ago

I had no idea Ellen was a young republican.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
13.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ringworm @13    2 years ago

can you look me in the eye, and pose  erh that Q uestion, without leaving a mark...?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
14  Jasper2529    2 years ago

Yesterday's left wing broadcast and cable media coverage of this murder = ZERO MINUTES.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.1  devangelical  replied to  Jasper2529 @14    2 years ago

no worries, his parents can fill out his mail in ballot for the midterms.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
14.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @14.1    2 years ago

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Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
14.1.2  Jasper2529  replied to  devangelical @14.1    2 years ago
no worries, his parents can fill out his mail in ballot for the midterms.

I'm sure that your comment will give Cayler Ellingson's parents great comfort as they mourn the murder of their son by a man who was politically encouraged by a radical left POTUS and his sycophants ... especially since there no evidence that Cayler was in any way political. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Jasper2529 @14.1.2    2 years ago

meh, junior will soon be where he can do the most good for his country.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
14.1.4  Jasper2529  replied to  devangelical @14.1.3    2 years ago

  Grave-dancing comments are quite abhorrent.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @14.1.4    2 years ago

No matter how carefully they are crafted.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
14.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.5    2 years ago

Indeed. Twice so far.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @14.1.6    2 years ago

So far today.

 
 

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