Pro-Trump Tour Flies Off The Rails Over 'Demonic Satellites' and 'Deep State' McDonald's
Every possible crazy was present...
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The far-right "ReAwaken America" gathering in Manheim, Pennsylvania, this weekend wasn't your typical pro-Trump rally.
It was a whole different level of crazy.
The QAnon-peppered programming frequently flew off the rails Saturday, as speakers took severe issue with everything from McDonald's being part of the "deep state" to "demonic satellites" controlling the voting system in the United States.
The day's activities kicked off with a prayer asking for Trump's eyes to be opened so he could be shown when to "implement divine intervention."
"You will surround him, Father, with none of this deep-state trash, none of this RINO trash," the speaker—who led the prayer—yelled as attendees thrust their hands into the air.
Opening prayer today at Eric Trump and Michael Flynn's QAnon event: "God, open the eyes of Pres Trump's understanding, that he will know how to implement divine intervention. And you will not surround him with RINO trash, in the name of Jesus." pic.twitter.com/56vsiVxzs0
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 22, 2022
Other speakers included Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate Doug Mastriano, and MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, though the crowd favorite appeared to be organizer Clay Clark, who frequently took to the microphone to accuse McDonald's of being part of the "deep state" and ask about Michelle Obama's gender.
"What gender is Michelle Obama?" Clark asked. The crowd overwhelmingly yelled back: "Male."
Then, without missing a beat, Clark began claiming there was a "war on food" and alleged a shady left-wing entity was pushing for the feeding of "insect burgers" to the masses.
Clark didn't stop there. Elsewhere, the organizer—whose gathering once triggered an anthrax scare—called people that wear masks on planes "jackass-er-y."
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Fresh off of a video emerging of Stone calling Ivanka Trump an "abortionist bitch daughter," the longtime informal Trump adviser attempted to flip the script, claiming videos showing him encouraging violence were actually part of "continued harassment" against him.
"I am guilty of the crime of supporting President Donald Trump," he said. "Loving him for 40 years."
Right-wing doctor Stella Immanuel, best known for her belief in demon sperm, urged attendees to pray that both satellites and voting machines be destroyed.
"We need to pray and crush…the demonic satellites. We need to send a holy ghost virus into their computers, to destroy them, so they will not function, or until our election is over," she said, to the crowd's applause.
Far-right doctor Stella Immanuel tells attendees at the QAnon-friendly ReAwaken America event to pray that "demonic satellites" get destroyed and "holy ghost viruses" are released into voting equipment. pic.twitter.com/3R3pscF0mD
— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) October 22, 2022
Earlier on Friday afternoon, Eric Trump—a longtime staple at fringe anti-vaccine confabs—took to the stage and phoned up his father to address the QAnon-friendly conference.
"We love you all," said the ex-president, who was at times muted by Eric Trump's phone not being close enough to the microphone. "And we'll be back doing things that... We're going to bring this country back because our country's never been in such bad shape as it is now."
Eric added that he advised his father—who has been subpoenaed to appear before the Jan 6. committee—to testify due to it being "the greatest entertainment."
"Who wants to pop a beer, make some popcorn, and watch Donald Trump talk about election fraud in the United States of America," he continued.
But perhaps the craziest message of the weekend thus far was from Julie Green, a self-identifying prophet, who told the crowd she had a message directly from God.
"Says God, you can't stop my son, who is the rightful president," Green said on Friday evening. "He is on his way back, and how he takes his position back on center stage, you will never see that coming because you won't see me coming. And I am with him."
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Where was the head honcho ?
Somewhere having an insect hamberder.
Maybe he got zapped by a Jewish laser beam from space.
We often hear that the "crazies" are nothing but a fringe.
I personally know numerous people who are anything but crazy who also believe many of these conspiracy theories. This is no longer a bug associated with being a conservative or Republican, it is a feature.
for those that probably should be put to sleep...
These people are insane.
Insect burgers? That would be a step up for McDonalds.
MAGA is insanity easily identified, by their red hats!
hat.red
Mine is locked and loaded.
These people walk the Earth. Scary.
Where else can you find this kind of insanity?
Yes Liberals do, and it's very scary....
Pathetic, isn't it al?
The Trumpist-Fascists, QAnon lunatics, Christian "nationalists", white supremacists and anti-Semites pretend that liberals are the problem. You have to wonder how many NT members were at that rally.
Since there are few NT members to begin with, the number of NT members at the Capital on 6 Jan would be very small.
One would be too many. Of course, I was referring to the lunatic gathering, rally, from last weekend described in the article. Even if there were few, or none, present at either event, no doubt several wish they were or, at least, fervently support the rallies' goals of insurrection and QLunacy.
The first phrase in this seed is:
"The far-right "ReAwaken America" gathering in Manheim, Pennsylvania, this weekend...."
I don't think you have to worry about "scary" Liberals attending That stupid fucking event.
Your attempted deflection is fucking ridiculous.
Do you support any of the following insane shit the speakers there were spewing there?
"McDonald's being part of the "deep state" to 'demonic satellites' controlling the voting system in the United States."
"Organizer Clay Clark, who frequently took to the microphone to accuse McDonald's of being part of the "deep state" and ask about Michelle Obama's gender."
"Clark began claiming there was a "war on food" and alleged a shady left-wing entity was pushing for the feeding of 'insect burgers' to the masses."
"We need to pray and crush…the demonic satellites. We need to send a holy ghost virus into their computers, to destroy them, so they will not function, or until our election is over," she said, to the crowd's applause.""Says God, you can't stop my son, who is the rightful president," Green said on Friday evening. "He is on his way back, and how he takes his position back on center stage, you will never see that coming because you won't see me coming. And I am with him."
Ok, that comment was dumb enough to make me use the Space Lazer.
fortunately for america, a large segment of the maga movement won't have long to worry about it ...
I think that was a rhetorical question, but good job at minimizing NT.
How many active members are there here?
Dont really think about it much. Why do you?
What makes you think that I do? I wrote one comment and then replied to yours, that's not much.
Your question has now caused me to give it some thought now. I think that we see around 40 frequent commenters and another 20-30 occasional commenters. That's 60 or 70 users. No idea how many more just read without ever responding.
Most forums of this sort have similar numbers.
If you make a comment on the New York Times articles, or on the Fox News websites, where they get 4 or 5 thousand comments on a story, the chances are that very few of those 5000 people will ever see your comment. Your comment will be gone from view before all but a tiny amount of the readers would have seen it.
At least here the people you are commenting to have a chance to see what you said before it disappears.
The projection, deflection, and denial is strong in the trumpturd enablers/supporters.
try turning on a fan and opening a window when gluing and painting toys...
14.4% percent of NT users are in Russia.
One out of 6 people we are talking to on this site are actually in Russia.
The bright side?
If we can't change any MAGA Republican minds on the issues, at least we can tell Russian intelligence how we really feel.
Daily Unique Visitors: 2,317
Monthly Visits: 70,205
Pages per Visitor: 3.10
Daily Pageviews: 7,183
Very interesting, thanks for the link.
NT is doing a good job of minimizing itself.
(We are dying off.)
I've never been able to figure out where the old NV crew went. I guess they just dispersed to FB and Twitter. Or maybe Disqus.
Reddit is certainly no happy home for people who want to yap about news and politics. That place is drunk with a cancel culture mentality of downvotes and bans. (Unless of course you wander over into a hate sub where the upvotes are basically nazi salutes.)
Maybe NT should give some thought into attracting new members (who aren't disinformation trolls)?
Sure is interesting.
Well said.
According to the members roll, there are currently 1,417 members here. Most I have ever seen signed in and either commenting or just reading was 35. Makes you wonder why that many members and such low participation. Could it be the subject matter and hijacking of the site for 98% political content and the obsessions keeps them at arm's length?
It's kind of scary.
I would be a little careful with revealing too many personal details on this site.
I never really cared where the old NV crew went. I know Perrie did her best to get them to come here but many of them had misconceptions about what NT was like that they were unable to overcome.
No doubt that much is part of the Info War Campaign. '
Our social media services are subsidizing Chinese and Russian information warfare by providing free access.
Besides that this is all meta, and belongs in Metafied, but in the interest of transparency I am leaving it up. I'd like to know where you are getting your information.
I would be careful about revealing too many personal details on any site.
I am not associated with that company, so I have no idea where they are getting their information from. I am only associated with Google Analytics, and their information is private.
Google and private should not go in the same sentence.
Perhaps that explains where a lot of the pro Trump babbling on this site comes from.
And maybe some of the criticisms of American society and people.
Cliques, favorites
But you took it down.
The only reason I am here is I miss Newsvine.
Some Newsviners went to Minds and others went to MeWe.
Probably from ISPs and web-host services.
I'm not sure why my quotes from that website were taken down on the premise of them being meta but other people can quote from it and the quotes stay up.
One does have to wonder how much the crazy talk in American politics has been amplified by Russia and China hiding in plain sight on social media.
And then one has to ask why social media sites don't do anything about it and would rather pretend that everything is hunky dory.
A cloudburst doesn't last all day
Seems my love is up and has left you with no warning
It's not always gonna be this grey
All things must pass away
A mind can blow those clouds away
After all this, my love is up and must be leaving
It's not always gonna be this grey
All things must pass away
None of life's strings can last
So I must be on my way
And face another day
In the morning it will fade away
Daylight is good at arriving at the right time
It's not always gonna be this grey
Many of us here have been open about the likelihood of certain members literally being Russian trolls. I think your “meta” link confirms that suspicion. Glad I saw it before it was removed for no good reason.
I joined Newsvine in 2007 and left in 2011.
If I ever missed it that was a while ago.
I think even Russian trolls would be embarrassed by some of the comments we see here.
Are you saying with a straight face that you found your way here simply because NT is awesome?
How many people even found this site without hearing about it from NV?
I dont remember whether I heard of this site before I came here or not. I think I did. I was looking for other forums a couple times when I was suspended by Newsvine. Its not that hard to find a forum like this . You just did a search for current events forums or US politics forums. Something like that.
Anyway I joined here because Perrie asked me to after seeing me on Newsvine.
I remember you from NV. You struck me as very conservative at the time.
That is not how it works. First of all I have a private web-host. Second, you can't see our ISPs, only we can.
I can't even believe how wrong that is. We are aware of where bots come from and actively block them. Almost none of them are from Russia. You might want to try India instead.
Never. On Newsvine at the time I was for Hillary Clinton . Almost all the other "liberals" were for Obama. That is why people thought I was conservative. I was giving Obama a hard time.
Your comments were restored. This discussion belongs in our meta group and not in the middle of someone else's article.
I was being a little facetious Perrie. I dont care about bots, at all. I just comment on whatever is in front of my face, whoever wrote it.
OMG... nothing was removed and the idea of Russian trolls is too funny. And the good reason is that they don't belong in someone's article that has nada to do with this.
I became aware of NT on NV as well.
(And I am glad I found it. I like the interface a lot more than I like Reddit. And a couple of familiar handles from back in the day is a good thing.)
One comment led to another. Drinker speculated that there weren't that many regular users and the site I found had those stats.
I remembered you as being more of a conservative for Hillary sort of guy too.
Basically a never Trumper..
Your avatar - wasn't it some cowboy actor for the longest time? Wasn't it Paul Newman?
I'll see your George Harrison and raise you some Velvet Underground.
I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are, in case you don't know
I'll be the wind, the rain and the sunset
The light on your door to show that you're home
'Cause when you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands, 'cause I see you
I find it hard to believe you don't know
The beauty you are
But if you don't, let me be your eyes
A hand to your darkness, so you won't feel afraid
'Cause when you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands, 'cause I see you
I'll be your mirror
I'll be your mirror
I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are
I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are
I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are
I'll be your mirror
(It was played on the Handmaid's Tale tonight. It's originally by Velvet Underground but Handmaid's Tale went with Clem Snide. I think Clem Snide gave the song a serious upgrade.)
Is there a way to tie this back to Qanon?
Everyone has done too much acid??
I had a nice chat with Perrie and she says that those numbers from the site I linked bear no relation to reality. She has her own server stats that tell a different story. And FWIW, if you Google Hypestat.com you will find that there have been formal complaints about its accuracy.
I don't know what to make of it all except that it is time to politely move on from the topic and get back to enjoying TheNewStalkers website.
Common sense says that if you are talking to someone who is trying to convince you that the Ukraine conflict is Ukraine's fault then you are probably talking to an actual Russian or someone paid by Russia.
Beyond that, who knows. There is no shortage of crazy people with crazy beliefs in America.
[See the title of the article we are supposedly talking about: "Pro-Trump Tour Flies Off The Rails Over 'Demonic Satellites' And 'Deep State' McDonald's"]
When you mentioned Hillary I thought you meant in relation to Sanders.
I had a hard time choosing between Hillary and Obama. I read Audacity of Hope and liked the things I read but when you got down to it Hillary was actually the slightly more liberal choice.
I ended up voting for Hillary because I am from New York and she was my home state senator.
Then after Obama got elected, most of the things in Audacity of Hope that made me want to vote for him got shoved to the back burner.
I guess Obama had public and private positions on the issues too.
You didn't mention the category of Americans who have an ideological affinity for Putinite Fascism.
I have never been a conservative other than in the sense that I agree with conservatism on a few issues. As a political philosophy though, no. I used to defend the Catholic Church on Newsvine which I'm sure caused a lot of people to think I was a conservative.
The screen name JohnRussell comes from the main character in the movie Hombre, which is one of my favorite movies. And yes, it was Paul Newman, my favorite actor. The avatar is a poster for the movie.
Is there really such a thing? Are there really such Americans?
Ok. Let's try a rewrite:
Great movie and a great actor. Loved the dialogue:
Grimes: Mister, you've got alot of hard bark on you walkin' down here like this. Now, I owe you. You put two holes in me.
John Russell: Usually enough for most of 'em.
Grimes: Don't try it again, that Vaquero is more than a fair hand.
Grimes: You got the money?
John Russell: Guess I brought my dirty laundry down by mistake.
Grimes: Let me see it.
John Russell: Look for yourself.
Grimes: [opens bag, pulls out a handful of clothes] Well now, what d'ya suppose hell's gonna look like?
John Russell: We all die, just a question of when.
Unfortunately, there are.
That's an appropriate description.
More like slither
Then, without missing a beat, Clark began claiming there was a "war on food" and alleged a shady left-wing entity was pushing for the feeding of "insect burgers" to the masses.
Maybe that's what's wrong with The Donald. He's been wolfing down those McDonald's insect hamberders hand over fist.
"We need to pray and crush…the demonic satellites.
Marjorie Taylor Greene warned us about those Jewish space lasers! She said they start forest fires so I guess they can vote too.
At the rallied a "death wish prayer" was led from the podium.
Pictures of Trump's "enemies" were displayed while the idiotic "congregation" prayed for them to die.
It's heartwarming to see those evil Christians "death praying".
They're fucking nuts.
There's a certain genius in having a political movement based on mass insanity because there are literally no facts that could be presented to the people in this movement that could change their outlook on anything.
Qanon IS the space laser from hell.
Political movement? More like a really messy bowel movement.
Who do you think it was who stormed the capitol on Jan 6?
How can that woman call him the son of God? He's more like the son of Satan.
These people are scary. Maybe trmp really is the Anti-Christ
I always pictured the Anti-Christ as more competent.
Well, he is anti....
I stand corrected
That is meme worthy.
That's why the ridiculous combover - to cover up the 666 on his scalp
Think 'The Omen'