Schumer says it out loud
New York's contribution to the US Senate, Chauck Schumer finally said what most progressives are thinking:
Sen. Majority Leader Chuck Schumer made a fresh pitch for amnesty Wednesday when he claimed the U.S. is 'short of workers' so Congress needs to pass a 'path to citizenship' for 'however many undocumented there are here'.
'We're short of workers, we have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to,' the New York Democrat reasoned.
'The only way we're going to have a great future is if we welcome and embrace immigrants… get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many there are here.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11436431/Schumer-wants-amnesty-11-million-migrants.html
That comes on the heels of the 2022 midterm elections. We maybe talking about 30 Million illegal migrants living within the US. Are we really going to reward them for entering the country illegally? Are we really going to put them in from of legal immigrants? Are we really going to use them to disenfranchise citizen voters?
This should finally end the big lie about "the replacement conspiracy theory."
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Who knows, maybe our wonderful young voters will want it too!
Schumer is such a dweeb!
He was elected from a state which people are fleeing from.
Do you blame them? I Sure don't!
Who are all these folks fleeing from NY?
I wasn't talking to you. Do you speak for Vic now?
It's so bad (sarc) the average rent for two bedroom apartment in NYC is $5,200...
Sure some left during Covid, but people are returning here in droves more recently...
Rents are so low because nobody likes it.
Just like "Garbage Dump San Francisco"...
Horrible Horrible places, for poor goppers!
With their excellent red state educations.
You need at least a GED to make it here!
Sounds like a really well balanced economy. You should be be proud!
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Average income in NYC was $107,000 a year in 2021 but that too is rising quickly.
Average for the rest of the US is $37,000.
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The New York rental to income ratio is pretty normal for a world class metropolitan area and there are others that are worse.
No shit. $62,400.00 for rent?
Yes, you couldn't afford it on a NC income!
I own my home outright and I paid cash.
I lived in Texas and NY is 1,000% better!
I make over $90K. Rent here on a 3 bed, 2 1/2 bath townhome here is about $2.2K depending on the neighborhood. I was renting a 4 bed 3 1/2 bath 2400 square foot townhome with a basement for $1,850 a month up until last spring. I bought it instead after renting for 5 years and payments with HOA bullshit is a little over $1,500. It appraised at $240K when purchased and is now appraised at $323K due to the boom in the area. I'm quite happy not renting. Especially in NYC.
Hey you know why some New Yorkers are so miserable? Because they realized the light at the end of the tunnel is New Jersey.
The average in my hood is over $1,000,000.
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Is your home near the XXX Video on I-35?
I filled up for $3.53 per gallon yesterday...
I did the same for $3.05 with my $.10 per gallon discount card.
I hear Texas real estate taxes are horrid...
Then inflation is easing there also. Good!
Probably not near what yours are but the thing you must remember is, there is no Texas personal income tax.
I bought 20,000 shares of GM for $30 a share a few months back and then sold for $42 this week. Times are tough /s...
There are still lots of XXX Videos in Waco.
Like nobody has ever claimed that on the internet before.
Poor people have a hard time imagining it but many if not most highly educated retirees have net worths in the millions now. During my former career I sold over a billion dollars of industrial products. Selling that much was actually easier than collecting for it. My ancient mother still owns the ranches and Daddy's commercial properties. She is rich. I am merely comfortably retired...
Do you own a mansion and a yacht?
No, as I said, mere millionaires aren't rich.
I had a fleet of sport cars but i sold them.
Having more than one car in NYC is crazy.
Do you have a double wide and an F-150?
Arrogant urbanites have a hard dealing with the fact that their cities are dying on the vine. If I had a nickel for every NY plate I’ve seen here in Gods country in Northern Michigan the last couple years I could buy all the fake internet millionaires here on NT and then some.
Good luck in your urban shithole JBB, you just might be the last one there very soon.
Lol ..... In actuality i could probably buy and sell you several times over but like your claims here, that and a couple bucks might get you one of those fancy coffee drinks you probably prefer.
Now stop, you’re putting me to sleep.
Yet, you think Democrats are resentful?
I traveled through Michigan last year...
Cities here are doing better than there.
A big pot growing operation out of China is buying some of Mom's land in Oklahoma.
Add Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania here and I could buy Myrtle Beach. And the sad part is, they aren't coming here to assimilate into southern living. They are bringing their bullshit with them.
And then have the nerve to talk about how people should be nice and polite to each other.
Then you should donate to charity. Became a philanthropist. BLM is a worthy recipient
Yes, North Carolina is slowly turning blue.
Yeah, that’s why so many New Yorkers are moving here.
Because it’s worse than New York.
Get real.
I have a rental storage facility that’s full of Urbanites stuff who are trying to get here. The only reason they aren’t here yet is because of a housing shortage. Their buddies from NYC and other shitholes like Baltimore just beat them to the housing punch.
They snoozed and now their shit sits in my storage unit paying for my cigars, scotch and vacations. I’d rent to you as well but sorry. Already booked into 2024
How Glamorous! A storage facility. Do you know Barry and Brandy on Storage Wars? I do not hoard worthless old crap...
I was unaware Michigan was booming. Some people I know have summer homes there. They complain about the mosquitoes. Vermont is more my idea of ideal lakeland...
Video?
That is so last century, JBB
$62,400.00 for rent?
The rule of thumb is to only pay 1/3 of yourg gross income towards housing.... So you have to make at least $187,000 a year just to be able to pay for a two bedroom apartment.
What a disaster.
Your former city mates think so. They beg for more space and I wish I had built more.
I probably pull in more per annum from that one investment than you total in a year .....oh wait .....my bad, I forget you are a millionaire.
That’s why Trumps property tax write off limit thing pissed them off so much.
Their high tax schools districts and municipalities really started hitting home then.
I know! Yet, there are still dozens of XXX Video Arcades in Waco Texas. They must be where Texans go to blow each other...
When you drive from Texas to Oklahoma you first see casinos. When you drive from Oklahoma into Texas you see old Stuckey's converted to XXX Video Arcades. It is a phenomenon unique to Texas and parts of Missouri. I guess they never heard of streaming. Or, they are just lonely closet cases. Why else do they still exist?
He/she (I don't know, never asked and really don't care) could be a millionaire, it's not all that difficult to do. Some moderate and smart investing over 15 years will do the trick.
I'm available for adoption... and I'm mostly housebroke too!!
I don’t remember seeing them, guess you had to be looking for them.
Just another reason I'm glad I live in a rural border area in the middle of the Sonoran Desert in SE Arizona. We don't have people like that here and the ones that come here do not stay long.
What's the interest, planning a Southern vacation?
Just like Texas?
Mine are just over 2%.
People do say everything's bigger in Texas!
I agree.
See 1.1.46 and also 1.1.52 and 1.1.56:
Spot on, those who try to flaunt their wealth are ones who don't actually have it.
Pay attention to the rest of the thread. See @1.1.68
Your criticism of JBB applies to SpartyOn as well.
Equivocation. Not a surprise.
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In the apartment above the store
Yeah, all multimillionaires and moguls hang out on NT!
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I lived in rural Oklahoma and north Texas for sixty years yet these guys think I am some kind of fancy "urbanite" because I got the hell out of their Red State Hell...
What took you so long, it couldn't have been a "glamorous" lifestyle.
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Count your blessings
Watching your disingenuous “selective” quoting is amusing.
You claim I am being disingenuous by not including the entirety of your comment that I linked?
Here is your entire comment with the part I quoted in blue:
So show me (show us all) how quoting only the blue part misrepresents you.
In the blue part you brag about your wealth claiming you could buy and sell JBB several times over. And in 1.1.52 and 1.1.56 comments that I linked (but did not quote), you pile on. Here are those comments in their entirety:
How, exactly, have I misrepresented your arrogant, wealth-based snark against JBB?
You made the claim, now let's see you dance.
No dancing required, I didn’t stutter.
You picked only my comments and the topic in question in this case, was started by let’s say a more liberal poster. Numerous posts. Even the most casual of observers here can see your bias. You can’t, because you are biased.
Nothing new there.
Your arrogant gloating in blue @1.1.91 (with links to the full comments) for all to read are well beyond the 'liberal poster' who was explaining why he can afford to live where he lives. He explained (and later even downplayed his wealth) whereas you bragged, gloated and attacked.
As usual your rationalizations are horseshit.
I’m not the one who claimed to be a millionaire. That’s your obtuse rationalization from what I wrote. In fact, my first comment that you took issue with clearly states the folly of such claims on the internet.
Of course you skipped right over that as the person I was responding to continued with the childish insults and nonsense. No comment from you on any of that. That’s SOSDD considering.
Your problem is you believe in your own press too much. That might impress your buddies in the mafia here but as I’ve told you many times. You do not impress me in such matters.
Not in the least
No, you are the one who arrogantly claimed he could buy and sell a millionaire several times over.
In reality, the liberal poster in question stated that he was a millionaire in explanation for how he could afford to live where he lives. He then went on to state that he does not consider himself wealthy but rather comfortably retired. By the way, to be comfortably retired nowadays it is not at all unusual to have a net worth in excess of $1M. For many upper middle class professionals, to generate a consistent standard of living upon retirement, the nest egg needs to be multiple millions to have sufficient principal.
You arrogantly and repeatedly flaunted your forum-claimed wealth to ridicule a poster who stated his comfortably retired status with a net worth over $1M as an explanation for how he could afford his neighborhood.
Nope and another misinterpretation on your part.
As noted, I never said I was a millionaire but I never said he was either. I don’t think he is, thus my comment. Didn’t stop you from misquoting me by injecting the word “millionaire” into my comment.
Your petty biases are once again getting in the way of your ability to reason properly.
Sad.
You wrote:
The phrase you used states that your wealth is multiple times greater than the 'liberal poster' who had just noted that he was worth at least a million. Which you knew:
Some people think readers are stupid; you must think they are morons.
I certainly do every day.
I know what I wrote and no amount of gaslighting from you will change a thing I wrote. Not to an unbiased thinking person that is. As usual, I stand behind every word I’ve posted here.
You should take you own advice and realize most readers really aren’t ignorant enough to fall for your sophomoric tactics here on NT.
I think we all know what you wrote and have watched your pathetic attempts to deny it.
So do indeed stand behind these words by you:
Keep
..... I find it amusing.
white people are pissed !!!!!!!!!
I thought it was "a conspiracy theory?'
You mean that progressives wanted to do it right from the beginning?
I mean that white people are pissed. They think this is "their" country, and always have.
No Americans are pissed. That you pull only "white people" out of this just shows your race card hasn't expired.
do you think the great replacement theory is not about race?
Great Replacement - Wikipedia
According to Australian historian A. Dirk Moses, the great replacement theory is a form of psychological projection in which Europeans—who enacted settler-colonial projects entailing the elimination and replacement of native populations by settler societies—fear the reverse may happen …
Fuck the great replacement theory. I'm telling you that it isn't just white people who are pissed. That you don't see that anywhere is on you.
In this case we are talking about REPLACING THE VOTERS...
THE CITIZENS!
GRT fits in nicely with an unscientific, “racism centric” viewpoint of the USA.
For the most part, it’s complete nonsense.
"I mean that white people are pissed. They think this is "their" country, and always have."
Millions of Hispanic citizens in the US are pissed about this Democrat inspired invasion...
or do you consider them to be "white"?
If you dont like immigrants just say you dont like immigrants. Dont say it is a "replacement theory" because that is racial.
I don't mind immigrants at all................if they do it the right and legal way. This invasion is bullshit. And you are the one that brought up replacement theory not I.
And YOU are the one that made it racial.
The seeded article brought it up.
Don't tell me you are surprised by that.
Lol .... nice Red Herring John.
Yep, Dim’s finally let the cat out of the bag on the purpose of a completely open border. It’s the same as it’s always been with illegal immigrants.
More free votes.
White people are pissed? Get real John.
I read that in Chicago and LA, Black and Brown people are pissed at each other over how the council seats are divided.
Or, maybe, don't kill millions of unborn Americans.
You mean the same party that wants abortion on demand is complaining about a lack of workers?
Bingo.
What does one have to do with the other and what is 'abortion on demand' and how is it anyone's business about a woman's right to her own decisions/body?
Bango
Bongo
What the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING?
So those alleged workers were aborted?
Again, has nothing to do with anything despite your Bingo.
Sorry I can't understand it for you but, if you think real hard, you may make the association.
No, you can't make that make sense no matter what. I get it.
I bet you have to pay them.
Not worth a penny.
Remember?
With all of those hard working illegal immigrants in the country already how could we possibly have a labor shortage?
Isn't that the point that leftists continually make? That illegals keep their heads down; are hard working; and put back far more into the system than they take out? What happened? If we have that damn many illegals the US unemployment rate should be sky high- all those woke liberals hiding in their parents basements, grafting off mom and dad, and refusing to work should be SOL.
Democrats want to talk about instituting work VISA program. Where the VISA is set up as soon as the immigrant is employed; and ends as soon as they leave or lose their job starting a clock on a set period of time for them to leave the country- then all for it. The penalty for any employer hiring illegals and not apply for a work VISA for them needs to be stiff enough that no one will ever want to break it.
Also the southern border needs to be secured completely. None of this garbage that Democrats pulled on Reagan where he granted amnesty for illegals and the Democrats never produced the promised funding to secure the border.
Giving amnesty to all illegals does nothing to secure our country or stop the flow of illegals. It just proves to those that are in the process of the journey; or are thinking of coming; that if they flood the country again another amnesty will be issued.
It’s to buy votes for Democrats.
Nothing more.
Non citizens cannot vote.
Schumer just said that he wants to turn non citizens into citizens!
Live and learn.
States such as California, Pennsylvania, and Michigan don't draw up districts by voters; they do it by population. Districting committees cannot take voter dispersal into account at all when drawing up districts. It is how Michigan went even more bat shit crazy leftist this election with Democrats taking the state House and Senate for the first time in years.
This is the same damn system Democrats tried to cram down all states throats with their unConstitutional attempt at nationalizing all elections.
Also, when deciding electoral college delegates it is done strictly by population calculated by the US Census. And since Democrats have forced immigrants (legal and illegal) to be counted on US Census (same as full US citizens); sanctuary states get more delegates.
See 4.1.2
Are you sure you are on the right seed?
Black, white, brown, yellow, etc .... most Americans embrace immigrants. Legal immigrants that is. Immigrants who are willingly to be good, working citizens. Not the wave of freeloaders who are pouring across the border right now looking for the free lunch liberals are promising them.
If Congress would get off it's dead ass and do something to fix the broken system we'd have less illegal and more legal immigration. They won't because its a wedge issue that makes them campaign cash. Instead we'll continue to bitch about amongst ourselves...
“Instead we'll continue to bitch about amongst ourselves...”
Blaming the last rung on the ladder while ignoring all the implications that have enabled this problem to fester for half a century.
You won't get any deal on the border until the border is finally secured.
Exactly!
Yeah, okay... what does that mean? In reality, not some right wing fever dream where we build a new Wall of China along our border.
Anyway... new, or additional measures can be negotiated in any bills. The Republicans have the House; they have the power to include security and funding for any border fixes.
And the Senate is still Dem controlled and Biden has a veto pen but I agree. They need to make Dems veto proposed immigration fixes once and for all.
By the way. Where do you think more illegals are pouring into the USA? Areas with a wall or areas without?
Yep, just more progressive unexceptionalism.
Nothing more.
Tens of millions of foreigners come on ships or fly into dozens of our ports of entry every year. Millions never returned.
Yep.
Just one more broken component of a broken immigration policy.
So, never....
The poor people from Venezuela fleeing on foot carrying their only possessions who successfully plead for temporary refugee status at our southern border are not illegal. Do not confuse them with migrant workers who come and go by evading immigration entirely. Those are the acual illegals, just like the visa jumpers...
If so then please name all these Democrats who encourage illegal immigration and the policies that they propose to increase illegal immigration...
While I agree, Venezuela is just one more failed socialist state of many failed socialists states, don’t confuse “refugee” with “migrant.”
A common error made by our progressive friends on the left
I am not, but it surely seems you want to!
Yes you are.
Pop quiz ....... how many countries must poor Venezuelan “refugees” migrate through before they get to the USA from their failed socialist state?
Once? The Dems been doing it continuously for the last 2+ years!
Okay then. In other words, you are talking trash that you cannot back up. Gotcha!
"Blah blah Democrats blah blah liberals".
You must have missed the comment at 7.1.20.
Nah, just ignoring it.
SOSDD considering ......
Give it time
As usual.
Garbage and lies doesn't equal truth.
Reading garbage and nonsense and lies doesn't equal truth.
Truth/Reality = Liberal
We're not the ones residing in an alternate reality.
Truth/Reality = Liberal
It was under the last Admin the Rubio cowrote a bill he voted against because it didn't appease the far right. A bi-partisan bill written to solve issues and not appease partisans might actually have traction under a divided Congress.
Why do you think no one in 300 years has confiscated private land to put walls in areas that don't have them now?
Nothing like putting a wall on a river. Give Mexico complete control of the river while we just board up....
Answering a question with a question.
Noted ....
Congress had the last 2 years to do something but under Pelosi and Schumer they did not.
OMFG! Partisans are purposefully dense or what?
Congress had the last 50 years and more to do something, but under ALL leadership they did not. When ARE YOU going to hold your leadership as accountable as you do with Dems?
Agreed.
Unfortunately for the USA, Biden has been in politics that long and is now POTUS and the situation has become worse since he was elected POTUS
Same times leftists hold Democrat's feet to the fire about closing the border and enforcing our immigration laws.
Leftists and Democrats need to take care of their own damn party. Unrestricted immigration and amnesty are not feasible policies.
Schumer is only laying groundwork for 2024. Nothing less and, more importantly, nothing more. Schumer is only stirring the cesspool to raise a stink.
Schumer is throwing out a hot button issue deliberately intended to divide the country. Schumer certainly isn't serious about immigration reform or even a pathway to citizenship. If voters are fighting each other then less attention is paid to deadwood Democrats in elected office.
If Democrats were really serious about all these hot button issues they whine about then why don't they do something when Democrats control Congress and the White House? Why do Democrats wait until they lose control of one or both chambers of Congress or the White House to raise these issues?
"Why do Democrats wait until they lose control of one or both chambers of Congress or the White House to raise these issues?"
So they can blame Republicans?
No one who enters this country illegally as an adult should have a path to citizenship. I don’t care if they have been here for 40 years. They don’t get to be citizens unless they leave the country and enter with permission.
If you want to give them some kind of status that can be revoked for bad behavior - akin to a green card, but not as strong (those people entered legally) - we can have that conversation. But not citizenship. Never.
Dreamers (i.e. people who entered illegally as kids) could be given similar status with an actual path to citizenship. All they have to do is not break the laws and eventually they could be citizens.
Any scenario that basically puts illegal aliens in line for citizenship in front of legal guests or lawful permanent residents of the United States is bullshit.
Spot on
Yep.
Yes, immigration should be monitored and laws met. But people should be able to immigrate here and there should be a clear path to doing so. Otherwise were are no better than those who didn't want these people:
It doesn't make you a radical to think that our country is open to new citizens. My son in law is one of those.
The USA is overpopulated now, overpopulation causes climate change so Schumer must not think that is a problem
Leftists will never agree that overpopulation is a problem.
They will scream about "preserving resources" all the while letting in millions of more migrants overtaxing the environment even more.
Water shortages in the west don't give them a clue. We have more people than there is water for already, but they want to let more in
Water is the next fossil fuel. We will see wars fought over it. Maybe not in our lifetimes but it’s coming.
No doubt about it.
Desalination will eventually be perfected to use less energy and to make effective use (and disposal) of the byproducts. Accessible fresh water is what is scarce, we have an over abundance of 'salt' water.
Yep, right around the time the perpetual energy machine is invented.
Perpetual motion (/energy) is impossible. Desalination is demonstrably possible (it exists in production worldwide, do some reading) but not yet at the scale we need. If something already exists, it typically is a matter of time before it is made practical at higher scales.
Amazing you do not understand this.
Given you probably will not do any research:
One of these days I’ll explain the concept of “hyperbole” to you. In the meantime you’ll just have to muddle your way through it like usual.
I doubt “your” real understanding of the geographical, technical and financial realties of Desalination would pass much serious scrutiny. Perhaps you have a buddy in the mafia that will help that but in the meantime you’ll just have to keep internet bullshitting your way through it.
I know you will.
I see you did not respond to my link but rather continued with your witless bullshit.
You equated a future achievement of practical desalination with the impossible perpetual motion (/energy). In effect stating that practical desalination is impossible.
I provided a link showing worldwide usage of desalination in effect today with 300 million people benefiting from it. It exists today. In technology, if we have that level of extant usage and we have a need to expand the scope (and we do ... you even stated the growing future need for fresh water), we typically evolve the technology to do so.
You are ignoring history and ignoring existing, working technology worldwide.
Your position is stupid.