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A new low for democrats

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  127 comments

A new low for democrats
"The charges that I made these statements that were antisemitic, all of those statements are taken out of context," Kennedy told FOX News host Martha MacCallum. "And those statements themselves -- I have -- I have literally -- and I said this under oath today. I have never made a single antisemitic statement in my life or racist statement in my life. And the statements that are being twisted and distorted to make them seem like I said these controversial things are -- is simply another way...

Link to Quote: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: I Was Slandered At House Hearing And Was Not Allowed To Talk, "I Was In An Upside-Down World" | Video | RealClearPolitics



Yesterday Robert F Kennedy Jr. was testifying during a House hearing over online censorship. For those who missed it, it was a new low for the party controlled by the radical left. You may recall the former DNC Chairwoman, who sandbagged Bernie Sanders for Hillary Clinton,
Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She is now a representative from Florida believe it or not. She was the first to personally target Kennedy. She brought up comments made by Kennedy at a dinner party where he referred to a study funded by the National Institutes of Health and conducted by “Cleveland Clinic scientists, which claimed that Chinese and Ashkenazi Jewish people were less likely to get Covid-19 while Caucasian and Black people were targets of the disease. Schultz, who looked like she had been sleeping in the woods, claimed that Kennedy never cited the study and spoke as if the claim was his opinion. Kennedy and Schultz began to talk over one another as the hearing quickly degenerated into a slap fight. 






We know how democrats tend to plot and scheme, so where Schultz left off Stacey Plaskett picked up on the defamation. Here is how it went when RFK Jr tried to respond:



You can clearly see a bit of how defiant and uncivil the ranking member is from that clip. 

Btw, in case people haven't noticed, the democrats are elevating their most radical members to the position of "ranking member" at these hearings. Probably because Jamie Raskin will be retiring. The other day we saw AOC as the ranking member. Yesterday was the rabid hater from the Virgin Islands. In case you don't know, the House now allows for non-voting members from US territories!


Did we ever think we would see the day that democrats would go out and try to destroy the reputation of a Kennedy?  For today's democrats, which are the most extreme radicals in American history, it's about protecting Joe Biden, the senile fool who serves the American left. That is all that matters,  and they will do anything at this point to win the next election .


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Robert F Kennedy Jr is a lifelong democrat from a family that was once admired by democrats.

I guess you could say: A strange thing happened yesterday.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

It wasn't strange.

Democrats just had to prove they are bigger hypocrites than Republicans. They criticized Republicans for casting out Liz Cheney after she became Pelosi's hand picked puppet for the Jan 6th committee. At least Republicans didn't line her up in front of a political firing squad and not allow her a chance to speak or defend herself.

Kennedy Jr is done as a Democrat. It doesn't matter what his past record and achievements are. It doesn't matter he belongs to a party that has the most anti-Semitic politicians around in the squad. He had the temerity to go against a Biden; and "No one fucks with a Biden"- to use Joe's own words. 

At this point he will be lucky if he can land a job as a regularly paid for political expert on Fox. None of the leftist media will touch him after this.

 

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    last year
Kennedy Jr is done as a Democrat. It doesn't matter what his past record and achievements are. It doesn't matter he belongs to a party that has the most anti-Semitic politicians around in the squad. He had the temerity to go against a Biden; and "No one fucks with a Biden"- to use Joe's own words. 

Well done!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    last year
Kennedy Jr is done as a Democrat. It doesn't matter what his past record and achievements are. It doesn't matter he belongs to a party that has the most anti-Semitic politicians around in the squad. He had the temerity to go against a Biden; and "No one fucks with a Biden"- to use Joe's own words. 

Oh please. What he said came across as totally antisemitic. Literally, every Jewish group has come out against it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.2    last year

Did he say it or was he citing a study?

I think that was the sticking point of that argument.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    last year
Democrats just had to prove they are bigger hypocrites than Republicans.

Bucking partisanship is the opposite of hypocrisy.   I understand how someone who lives party uber all might have a hard time imagining this, but party loyalty should never be the top priority;   truth, honesty, doing what is best should be the top priorities.

Hypocrisy would be to defend RFK, Jr.

Blind partisanship is the opposite of objective, honest reasoning.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.2    last year

There are far bigger ant-Semites in the Democrat party- namely the squad. 

Don't see them getting called to the carpet and facing a political firing squad; much the less being run out of the Democrat party.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    last year

Learn the definition of hypocrisy.

Did Democrats blast Republicans for running Liz Cheney out of the party for being a Pelosi puppet? Yes

Did the Democrats just run Kennedy out of the party claiming he was being used as a tool of the Republicans to promote their narrative? Yes

That is the very definition of hypocrisy. 

Democrats attacking one of their own for not toting the party line; while criticizing Republicans for doing the same. 

Politics as usual in the DC swamp.

Leftists eating their own and being proud of it. Wish they would turn their not so loving gaze to the squad. Get rid of their racist, anti-Semite, radicals that are harming the country.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.6    last year

Your posts are always emotional and extreme.  Get a grip.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.7    last year

and untrue and PD&D plus delusion

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    last year

What he said was:

“Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,”

Earlier in the week, there was an article up by a conservative source, that said he made the comment because he was a Dem and that dems are bigots, and now the complaint is that the Dems are trying to take him down because he can hurt Biden. You just can't have it both ways.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.10  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    last year
You just can't have it both ways.

they think they can...

example - you can't touch their ex POTUS for what he did while he was in office, while they promote the idea of prosecuting joe during his term.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.1.11  Jasper2529  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    last year
He had the temerity to go against a Biden; and "No one fucks with a Biden"- to use Joe's own words.

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Thomas
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1.1.12  Thomas  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    last year

No, no, Perrie. They have the special cake that you can keep and eat, too.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    last year

Okay, let’s get in the weeds.    A more complete accounting of what he said is:

COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said. “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.” “We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact

From this link:  

Emphasis on the last sentence.    I don’t know the man but it’s clear the left is trying to manipulate his comments to achieve the greatest negative effect.   Meanwhile old hoof in mouth disease Joe gets free passes regularly.

It’s messed up and you know it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    last year

I understand that Perrie, but he claims he read that from a study conducted by the " Cleveland Clinic scientists."

As far as a Conservative story goes, please note that the New York Post was first to condem his anti-Semitic theories:



 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    last year
You just can't have it both ways.

You have a point.

As much as I dislike them, the dems took him down for the right reason.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.14    last year

Vic,

Kennedy was walking it back after he made it.

I knew about the NY Post story. It was where I read it first.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    last year

Thanks for that, Vic. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.1.11    last year

No, he never does.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.19  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.7    last year

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Tessylo
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1.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.14    last year

Who are the 'Cleveland Clinic scientists'?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @1.1.21    last year

PD&D plus delusion.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

He is an embarrassment to the Kennedys.   Anything he has done for the environment in the past negates his whackjobbery.  He's fucking nuts.

He's an embarrassment to Democrats.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    last year

I meant to say - 'is negated by his whackjobbery'

Past accomplishments mean nothing.  What has he done lately?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    last year

Did you make up whackjobbery or is that now a real word?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.2    last year

How about fucking nuts?

They're real words

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.2.4  Thomas  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.2    last year
Did you make up whackjobbery or is that now a real word?

I love whackjobbery as a word! I just cannot figure out if it sounds better hyphenated or all together...

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
Robert F Kennedy Jr is a lifelong democrat

Guess there's a black sheep in every family.

No anti-vaxxer is family to me.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
Robert F Kennedy Jr is a lifelong democrat from a family that was once admired by democrats.

So...  You think that Dems should rally behind a man who believes that vaccines are a deep state plot simply because his uncle was President back in the 60s?

Would you rally behind Don Jr. after he left Guilfoyle for Dylan Mulvaney?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.1  Tessylo  replied to  SteevieGee @1.4    last year

I still admire the Kennedys - just not this whackjob Jr. and he is no Democrat IMHO.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.4.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.1    last year

What’s not to admire.  John frequently cheated on Jackie.  Jackie got $3 million up front when she married Aristotle and $150 thousand per year for life plus $25 million when he died.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.3  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.4.2    last year

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Drinker of the Wry
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1.4.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.3    last year

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bugsy
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1.4.5  bugsy  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.4.4    last year

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bugsy
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1.4.6  bugsy  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.4.4    last year

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Drinker of the Wry
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1.4.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bugsy @1.4.5    last year

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Tessylo
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1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

Who wrote this?  [Deleted]  All this 'we know' and 'we' - who is we and how do you know these things?  It sounds like it's just made up as the 'author' goes along?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"House Minority Leader  Hakeem Jeffries  (D-N.Y.) lambasted  Robert F. Kennedy Jr.  Thursday, accusing the long-shot Democratic presidential contender of promoting racism and conspiracy theories — and being a pawn in the Republican effort to topple President Biden."

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Kennedy trying to speak


 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

Not sure why Jeffries has his panties in a wad.  RFK is acting just as a good Democrat acts.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1    last year

It appears that Kennedy questioned the mandates of "the experts" during the pandemic. That is another No-No!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    last year

Oh that's right.  He went against the hive and now he has to pay.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.2    last year

And the Representative-at-large wants a rule so that certain people only get to speak in private hearings because Kennedy is expressing "hate speech" I guess.

To put it in Plaskett's own words "Free speech is not absolute."

Of course that flys in the face of the 1st Amendment, but obviously, the left sees the Constitution as an obstacle. It was written by white men after all!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.2    last year
He went against the hive and now he has to pay. 

Plus, he's doing a pretty good job running against a flailing Biden in the primaries. That scares the sh!t out of the Marxist Left Dems who need to get Biden back in for Obama's 4th term so they can move ever-forward into "transforming" the USA to a totalitarian, authoritarian state.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.4    last year
That scares the sh!t out of the Marxist Left Dems who need to get Biden back in for Obama's 4th term so they can move ever-forward into "transforming" the USA to a totalitarian, authoritarian state.

Do you actually believe this nonsense?   Do you actually believe that genuine Marxists (these would be people who seek to dismantle capitalism) want Biden because he supports their cause of dismantling capitalism and that Biden is trying to impose a totalitarian, authoritarian (pick one) state??

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.4    last year
he's doing a pretty good job running against a flailing Biden in the primaries.

Hell, a carcass could do that.  It's not like Biden has any successes to run on.

That scares the sh!t out of the Marxist Left Dems who need to get Biden back in for Obama's 4th term so they can move ever-forward into "transforming" the USA to a totalitarian, authoritarian state.

That would explain the "finish the job" nonsense the blundering idiot has been screeching.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.6    last year

(another one)   Good grief.

Do you actually believe Biden is trying to impose totalitarian rule in the USA??

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.8  Jasper2529  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.5    last year

Believe what you wish. Your opinions do not matter to me.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.1.9  Jasper2529  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.6    last year
It's not like Biden has any successes to run on.

Speaking of "run" ... have you noticed that Biden's sporting sneakers as his new fashion statement even when wearing a business suit? Maybe it helps him give that well-known Obama trot that he tries so hard to emulate that's supposed to show us how young and fit he is at 80.

That would explain the "finish the job" nonsense the blundering idiot has been screeching.

He also yells, "Watch me!" Bizarre behavior for a US president. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.8    last year

It is not my belief that is in question.   It is yours.

You deflected from my question.   That suggests you actually believe the nonsense you wrote yet cannot muster even a feeble support of same.

Who do you think is going to believe that Biden is trying to impose totalitarian rule (or possibly even the lesser authoritarian rule) and that he is trying to dismantle capitalism?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.9    last year

That one always made me laugh.  Watch him what, fall down?  Talk incoherently?  Wander aimlessly around with no clue where he's going?  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.11    last year

Watch this...............must've been the "speech" was cutting into his nap time..................

First, the bumbling speech excerpt..........

And then, the exit, stage left

Tell me this guy has it together without "Joey's little helper" whatever they give him. Wake up Dems.....................

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.8    last year

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cjcold
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2.1.14  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    last year
totalitarian rule
That's always been Trump's dream.
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.5    last year

He is always spewing that 'Marxist Left Dem' nonsense while never explaining just what is 'Marxist Left Dem'?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    last year

All some seem to have is PD&D plus delusion.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.12    last year

You all are the ones who need to wake up.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @2.1.13    last year

They do to many of us here.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.15    last year

They are simply emotive words haphazardly inserted to fear monger.   They illustrate a fundamental lack of understand of Marxism, totalitarianism and authoritarianism.

Marxism is, at its core, anti-capitalism.   It is a philosophy for empowering workers (those who do not own the means of production and distribution) wherein they assume democratic control over the economy.   It is majority control rather than minority control by a small minority of leading capitalists.

To suggest the D party or Biden is attempted to dismantle capitalism in the USA is flat out absurd.

Totalitarianism and authoritarianism are different.   The phrasing "a totalitarian, authoritarian state" is confused.   Totalitarianism is a more restrictive (controlling) form of authoritarianism.   It is like saying, "a square rectangle".    No need to add 'authoritarian' is one is speaking of 'totalitarianism': pick one term.

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The idea that the D party is attempting to impose authoritarian rule (much less totalitarianism) is demonstrably absurd.   

Further, Marxism is about economically empowering the majority whereas authoritarian / totalitarian rule is about empowering the minority (those who control the state).   

In short, if anyone sees USA politics deemed 'Marxist' or 'Totalitarian' or 'Authoritarian' one can rest assured that they are reading (confused) fear-mongering language.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.20  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.15    last year

To be credible, you should give several examples of my saying what you claim I "always" spew.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.21  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.20    last year

Seems easy to do:

Jasper @2.1.4 ☞ That scares the sh!t out of the Marxist Left Dems who need to get Biden back in for Obama's 4th term so they can move ever-forward into "transforming" the USA to a totalitarian, authoritarian state.
Tessylo@2.1.15He is always spewing that 'Marxist Left Dem' nonsense while never explaining just what is 'Marxist Left Dem'?

Are you claiming that this is the only time you have expressed the notion of a 'Marxist Left Dem'?  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.22  Jasper2529  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.21    last year

I am sure you know that several = more than one. Tessy clearly stated that I always spew.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.23  TᵢG  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.1.22    last year

Are you claiming that this is the only time you have expressed the notion of a 'Marxist Left Dem'?  

@9 (external) This has been a very bad week for the Left's Marxists and a very good week for those who believe in upholding the US Constitution.
@12 (external) ☞ This week's SCOTUS rulings show how racist and anti-US Constitution our Marxist "leaders" are:

(As starters.)

Jasper, there is literally no way that TiG's comment could be ignoring an impasse when it was made  before  you issued an impasse.  This is frivolous flagging - sandy

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.1.24  Jasper2529  impassed  TᵢG @2.1.23    last year
✋🏼
 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.19    last year

I appreciate the time you take to properly inform with truth, facts, logic, and reason.

You have the patience of Job.

This comment stands.  Jasper, you impassed TiG.  You impassing TiG has no bearing on whether or not Tessy can converse with TiG.  If you want to prevent Tessy from commenting, you must impasse her - sandy

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.23    last year

Funny, some throw up a roadblock to answering honest questions on comments that they make.  Thus, they have no answers and do exactly as you claimed in post 2.1.19.

Same thing - this is NOT a violation of impasse - sandy

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.27  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @2.1.14    last year
That's always been Trump's dream.

Your unbiased source for this is what?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    last year

So you're saying this whackjob is an expert?  On what?  Being a whackjob?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.30  TᵢG  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @2.1.29    last year

Then show me the policies where Biden is trying to dismantle capitalism and introduce authoritarian (and even more ridiculous, totalitarian) rule.   Extreme exaggerations like this do nothing but harm the credibility of those who express them.

I am no fan of Biden, but I am a fan of honesty and the partisan hyperbole is over the top.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.32  TᵢG  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @2.1.31    last year

Explain how some people can believe that Biden is trying to dismantle capitalism in the USA and how he is trying to impose authoritarian (and, more ridiculous, totalitarian) rule.

Then explain how some cannot bring themselves to acknowledge any wrongdoing by Trump.

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    last year

If the gop love RFK Jr so much they can have him!

His family and The Democratic Party or over him...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3    last year

So we can have him & Manchin & Sinema & everybody who may stand in the way of the dumb ass traitor in the White House?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

Nope, Manchin is a Democrat and Sinema is on her way out and will be replaced, kind of the way Liz Cheney is disowned by the gop!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    last year
Manchin is a Democrat

That may change at any time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

They're all DINOS and scumbags.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year
dumb ass traitor in the White House

That was the last president. Remember January 6th?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @3.1.4    last year

Some folks are trying their best not to!!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @3.1.4    last year

That does indeed describe the former 'president' to a T

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    last year

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She started out as a "Republican" and was appointed by establishment Republican George W Bush to the Civil Division of the DOJ. However, during the 2008 election she switched to the democratic party, which is open to radical ideas.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

Yep, free speech is not absolute.    

It’s what Dem’s like Plaskett tells you it is.

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
4.2  Dig  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

No freedom is absolute.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dig @4.2    last year

The Court continues to reaffirm the right of speech:

 the Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that a former cheerleader's online F-bombs about her school is protected speech under the First Amendment.

But in an 8-1 vote, the court also declared that school administrators do have the power to punish student speech that occurs online or off campus if it genuinely disrupts classroom study. But the justices concluded that a few swearwords posted online off school grounds, as in this case, did not rise to the definition of disruptive.




Free Speech is based on all speech, especially what we don't like to hear.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    last year

Yep, Free Speech is a cake walk when you agree with what’s being said.    It only gets hard when you don’t.

A lot of politicians would do well to truly understand the concept.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.2    last year

Exactly

 
 
 
Dig
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4.2.4  Dig  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    last year

That doesn't mean it's absolute. Absolute freedom is literal anarchy. You can't have civilization without rules, and rules are checks on freedoms. Weren't you aware of that? I mean, F-bombs online? Big deal.

What does your quote from NPR have to do with Plaskett, anyway? In that hearing she was talking about harmful mis- and disinformation, "hateful and abusive rhetoric." Like spreading ridiculous and completely unfounded conspiracy theories on social media that can lead to morons violently targeting one group or another, or even named individuals.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  Dig @4.2.4    last year

And according to RFK Jr she was lying or at least misrepresenting what he said.    If I have to pick, I pick RFK as to who to trust between those three.

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
4.2.6  Dig  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.5    last year
I pick RFK as to who to trust between those three.

Honestly? Sheesh. You should go watch some clips of him on YouTube. He's a crackpot.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.7  Sparty On  replied to  Dig @4.2.6    last year

Yes honestly.

The Progressive Industrial Complex (PIC) is attacking him.    In committee and out.    He threatens liberal votes for their chosen one so he must be removed at all costs.

That’s how the PIC rolls …..

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
4.2.8  Jasper2529  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.2    last year
A lot of politicians would do well to truly understand the concept.

Plaskett, Schultz, Jeffries, and others shamefully proved that they definitely don't this week.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dig @4.2.4    last year
That doesn't mean it's absolute.

Freedom of speech is absolute. 


What does your quote from NPR have to do with Plaskett, anyway? In that hearing she was talking about harmful mis- and disinformation, "hateful and abusive rhetoric." Like spreading ridiculous and completely unfounded conspiracy theories on social media that can lead to morons violently targeting one group or another, or even named individuals.


And everyone knows that it is nonsense. If we censor him, we'll have the lab leak theory censored as well.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.2.10  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    last year
Free Speech is based on all speech

Except for outright lies which is all the far right does these days.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.2.11  Ronin2  replied to  cjcold @4.2.10    last year

The left never lies- especially Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine (whose whole life is one massive lie); Adam Schiff (still waiting on his evidence that will take down Trump); throw in every Democrat that bought into the Russian Collusion hoax; Eric Swalwell (I am sure he told more truths the Chinese spy that was in his staff than to the American people); and far more.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.12  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.11    last year
... whose whole life is one massive lie ...

A litmus test for the slightest hint of objectivity:   to which does the above apply more?:

Biden : "whose whole life is one massive lie" ?

Trump : "whose whole life is one massive lie" ?

Biden is the leading candidate for D nomination and Trump is the leading candidate for R nomination.    So spare us all the cliché "but Trump" crap.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.13  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @4.2.10    last year
Except for outright lies which is all the far right does these days.

Examples with unbiased sources are?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
4.3  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

Deliberate lie speech, will and is destroying the freedom of free speech.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    last year

The idea that RFK Jr. could ever be president of the United States is absurd. 

I feel sorry for whats left of his famed family that now has the embarrassing albatross of his political career associated with them. 

RFK was a beloved figure in the mid-1960's.  To have his namesake son behave like this is sad and appalling. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year
The idea that RFK Jr. could ever be president of the United States is absurd. 

Even if it came down to him vs Trump?


I feel sorry for whats left of his famed family that now has the embarrassing albatross of his political career associated with them. 

What is left of them?



RFK was a beloved figure in the mid-1960's.  

I never liked spoiled brats.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    last year
Even if it came down to him vs Trump?

God help us if it ever came down to that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    last year

It would be fascinating to watch the media do a 180 on Kennedy.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    last year

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Sparty On
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5.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

Opinions do vary.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @5.2    last year

Thanks for yet another comment that doesnt actually mean anything. You are quite good at that. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    last year

This article is not about me John.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

He's a fucking embarrassment and a whackjob and a blight on his father's name.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6  Sparty On    last year

RFK Jr went against the hive.

Now he must be attacked.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
7  Right Down the Center    last year

Just when you think the dems have reached the bottom they prove you wrong

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @7    last year

Projection

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
7.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    last year

Finally. An admission. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8  TᵢG    last year

I see this as the Ds working to eliminate that which could siphon votes away from Biden. 

In that regard, this is politics as usual.

What the Ds should be doing is talking Biden out of running while trying to talk solid candidates —especially those who have served as governors— (e.g. Tim Walz) into running.

I know that will never happen, but that would be the responsible thing to do.

 
 
 
Sockula
Freshman Silent
8.1  Sockula  replied to  TᵢG @8    last year

RFK JR will siphon more votes from the Republicans. He hits all their most recent populist talking points. Vaccines, Isolationism and Federal Government accountability reform.

I'm rooting for him to take Trump votes. Now if only a cold noodle would challenge Biden for the nomination.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Sockula @8.1    last year

I suspect you are in a rare minority with that expectation.

 
 
 
Sockula
Freshman Silent
8.1.2  Sockula  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.1    last year

I probably should have thought this expectation through as it would require RFK Jr to run as an independent at some point. I have no idea if that is even a possibility.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
9  bbl-1    last year

A simple check on RFK's speeches confirms everything a non-MAGA would say about the man.  I would not be surprised if he has foreign intelligence connections designed to confuse, divide and harden the American people against each other.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
9.1  GregTx  replied to  bbl-1 @9    last year

He's a Kennedy,  c'mon he's obviously connected to Cuba, Russia,... etc.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
9.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  GregTx @9.1    last year

The Kennedys are dead.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
9.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.1    last year

Another all inclusive leftist./S

Trying to take away a man's family name, his heritage, as well as his party.

What class.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
9.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Ronin2 @9.1.2    last year

Of whom do you speak?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10  Sparty On    last year

The funny thing about RFK Jr is that he should be a darling to liberals.    He has a long history of protecting waterways, fighting for indigenous rights and being a strong advocate for renewable energy but alas …. he made the mistake of going against the hive and the chosen one on mandatory COVID vaccinations.

Now he must be destroyed

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. changed tactics Sunday and demanded for the first time an investigation into possible corruption by President Joe Biden, his party’s standard bearer."

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/major-shift-rfk-jr-calls-corruption-investigation-biden?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    last year

So, another nothingberder.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @11.1    last year

Biden family corruption?

It is the greatest scandal in history with the greatest coverup!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    last year

So another investigation into nothing?

The CONServatives are so good at that.  This dumb whackjob is no Democrat.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
11.3  JumpDrive  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    last year

A July 2023 poll by The University of New Hampshire of likely Democratic Primary voters asked for a one word description of Biden & Kennedy (word size relative to response frequency):

800

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
11.3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  JumpDrive @11.3    last year

Since you didn't attribute this poll to its source, I am happily doing it for you. The authors requested that we do this on page 1 of 18.

I encourage all interested readers to read the entire link before making an educated assessment of this poll. Comment 11.3 is a mere snippet of an 18 page poll.

 
 

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