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A day of congressional hearings

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  64 comments

A day of congressional hearings
"We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of that are objectionable, offensive, hateful. It's when that speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies against bullying," Gay said. Stefanik pressed, "Does that speech not cross that barrier? Does that speech not call for the genocide of Jews and the elimination of Israel? When you testify that you understand that is the definition of intifada, is that speech according to the code of conduct or not?"

Link to Quote: Stefanik grills Harvard president over students calling for 'intifada,' rampant antisemitism on campus (msn.com)


The presidents of Harvard University, MIT and the University of Pennsylvania testified in front of the House Committee on Education concerning the blatant antisemitic incidents taking place on university campuses since the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel. The three presidents who testified were all women (as if by woke rote). They were Harvard University's Claudine Gay, the University of Pennsylvania's Liz Magill and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Sally Kornbluth.

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Claudine Gay, president of Harvard University, during a House Education and the Workforce Committee hearing in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday, Dec. 5, 2023. Haiyun Jiang/Bloomberg via Getty Images

J ewish students attending four of the most prestigious universities in America recounted gut-wrenching experiences with antisemitism on their campuses Tuesday, with one saying school officers had spewed blood libels and another comparing the environment of hatred to before World War II.

House Republicans featured the four students at a press conference ahead of the presidents of American, Harvard, MIT and Penn testifying before the Committee on Education & the Workforce.

“An Israeli student whose identity and personal info was sold online for a bounty has not left his dorm room in weeks out of fear due to death threats,” said Talia Khan, the president of MIT’s Israel Alliance. 

Khan also cited a survey of Jews on campus that found 70% felt forced to hide their identities out of fear.

"This is the same climate of antisemitism that has led to the massacre of Jews throughout the centuries. This is not just harassment. This is our lives on the line."  @MIT  student Talia Khan highlights the rise of antisemitism at MIT.  pic.twitter.com/zXb03xodXb

— House Republicans (@HouseGOP)  December 5, 2023

“I was forced to leave my study group for my doctoral exams halfway through the semester, because my group members told me that the people at the …  [Nova] music festival deserved to die  because they were partying on stolen land,” she added, referring to one of the targets of the attack by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7.

Most shockingly, Khan said, a post-doctoral fellow at the school repeated claims that “Jewish Israelis want to enslave the world in a global apartheid system [and] falsely claimed that Israel harvests Palestinian organs,” a variation of other slanders against Jews dating back to the Middle Ages.

“The DEI officer in his department replied by telling us that nothing he said was hate speech,” Khan said of what happened after her group complained, “and that the organ harvesting conspiracy theory was ‘confirmed.'”

"I am the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors. We are not going anywhere. Antisemitism and the support for terror should have no home at NYU or any other college campus. We made the promise of 'never again.' And never again is now." –  @nyuniversity  student Bella Ingber.  pic.twitter.com/I5XiYH6P4Q

— House Republicans (@HouseGOP)  December 5, 2023

“Being a Jew at NYU is walking to class and passing torn and defaced posters of innocent hostages with the words occupier and murderer written across their faces,”  said Bella Ingber, a junior at the Manhattan school .


“Being a Jew at NYU has meant being physically assaulted in NYU’s library by a fellow student while I was wearing an American-Israeli flag, and having my attacker still roam freely throughout the campus,” she added.

“Today in 2023, at NYU, I hear calls to gas the Jews, and I’m told that Hitler was right. I’m a proud Jew, and I’m a proud Zionist. I’m the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors. We are not going anywhere.”

Eyal Yakoby, a student at the University of Pennsylvania — which has seen  some of the largest and most aggressive antisemitic activities  — explained that he had wanted to attend the Ivy League school for as long as he could remember.

"I should not be here today…I should be taking in…my senior year of college…I am because 36 hours ago, I, along with most of campus, sought refuge in our rooms as classmates and professors chanted proudly for the genocide of Jews. " –  @Penn  student Eyal Yakoby  pic.twitter.com/fg4InUKj3Q


— House Republicans (@HouseGOP)  December 5, 2023

“Thirty-six hours ago, I along with most of campus,  sought refuge in our rooms as classmates and professors chanted proudly  for the genocide of Jews while igniting smoke bombs and defacing school property,” Yakoby said. 

“The neighboring university’s president swiftly denounced the incident and yet our president cannot,” he added before recounting hearing remarks like “‘The glorious October 7’ and ‘You’re a dirty little Jew, you deserve to die’ — a word said not by Hamas, but by my classmates and professors.”

Yakoby vowed that “I refuse to go back to 1939 when Jews had to hide their religious symbols and hide who they are due to the intimidation and harassment of us.

“I used to think this was nonsense, fear-mongering, until I was made aware that Penn recommended students ‘not wear clothing-slash-accessories related to Judaism,’” he added.

Jewish students at Harvard, MIT, NYU and Penn facing death threats, assault: ‘Back to 1939’ (msn.com)



Here is how it went:



Meanwhile the US Senate once again endured FBI Director Wray's non-answers:







The future of the much abused 702 authority was discussed.


In other news Sean Hannity hosted a Town Hall in Davenport Iowa featuring former President Donald Trump.

The line of the night was when Trump recalled how Biden said he's like to take Trump out behind the woodshed. Trump said all he would have to do was blow on him and down would go Biden.


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Trump leads Biden in 5 of the 6 crucial battleground states.



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Good morning

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It's another day in Biden's America

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year
The three presidents who testified were all women (as if by woke rote).

So women cannot possibly be qualified to be university presidents unless they are put there by political correctness (woke) ? 

Your comments are a constant source of wonderment. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year
So women cannot possibly be qualified to be university presidents unless they are put there by political correctness (woke) ? 

There are many qualified women. That is a meritocracy

Selecting women simply for diversity is the Epitome of wokeness.

Don't you think it is curious that both Harvard and MIT suddenly have women presidents?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year
Selecting women simply for diversity is the Epitome of wokeness

You mean like selecting a VP on the sole grounds that she's black and a woman?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    last year

Ya, that's exactly what I mean.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    last year

That is called balancing the ticket. Exactly why did Trump select Pence to be his VP ? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year
That is called balancing the ticket.

It's called pandering to special interest groups.  

Exactly why did Trump select Pence to be his VP ? 

Sure as fuck wasn't because irrelevant shit like he was white or male.  But you go right along and believe that bullshit if you want.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.4    last year

Do actually think Pence wasnt picked because he was white?  If Trump had picked a black person in 2016 he would never have been president. 

But the main reason Trump picked Pence was to get the evangelicals locked down. So in your mind, picking a black person is pandering but picking someone specifically because of their value with "Christian" voters is not? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    last year

Mike Pence is qualified to be President. Kamala Harris is clearly not.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    last year
If Trump had picked a black person in 2016 he would never have been president. 

I’m trying to figure out if that comment it more ignorant or racist. Are you saying the same independents that voted for a black man for president wouldn’t vote for a black man for VP?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    last year

That is entirely a matter of opinion. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.8    last year

An opinion that I think the vast majority of Americans would agree with.

Especially after your president announced his qualifications for his VP pick: that was a "black woman."

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    last year
Do actually think Pence wasnt picked because he was white?

Wow.  You really didn't comprehend a what I said.  

If Trump had picked a black person in 2016 he would never have been president. 

That's a pretty stupid comment.  Are you saying the same conservatives that voted for a black man as POTUS wouldn't vote for a black man as VP?  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    last year

You mean like selecting a VP on the sole grounds that she's black and a woman?

Republicans would never do that.  Right?

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.11    last year

When was she POTUS or VP?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.10    last year

I'm saying that Trump wouldnt have won the election if he picked a black v.p. 

Feel free to disagree. I dont have the energy to write a long reply to someone who would ignore it. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.13    last year
I'm saying that Trump wouldnt have won the election if he picked a black v.p.

What you doing making idiotic unfounded assumptions.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.14    last year

Stop trolling. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.15    last year

I'll make you a deal.  You quit with your unfounded, idiotic assumptions and I'll stop "trolling".  Deal?

 
 
 
George
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2.1.17  George  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.11    last year
Republicans would never do that.  Right?

No, because they aren't racist pieces of crap.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.18  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year
Selecting women simply for diversity is the Epitome of wokeness.

Sorta like Reagan selecting Sandra Day O'connor ... now there was a woke guy!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.12    last year
When was she POTUS or VP?

I wanna know when she was black?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.19    last year

Good point.  Maybe she's IDENTIFIES as black.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @2.1.18    last year

Sandra Day O'connor knew the law.

Here is the difference:

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year
"So women cannot possibly be qualified to be university presidents unless they are put there by political correctness (woke) ?" 
They're most likely diversity hires. The Dems are, or pretend to be, all in on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    last year

When Hannity asked Trump if it was true that he would abuse his power to exert retribution upon his political opponents if he regained power Trump said, "Yes, On The Very First Day!" Any more questions?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3    last year

Oh, I know, he was serious, wasn't he?

The left is going down. The country has had enough.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

Trump blurts things out, the same way uninformed morons do.  He probably doesnt even know what the word dictator means. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    last year

The only uniformed moron is currently in the White House.  Yesterday your president said he is only running to stop Trump.

Is there anyone in the democrat party that has a modicum of decency?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    last year
Yesterday your president said he is only running to stop Trump.

An entirely reasonable and good statement.  You are going to be shocked next year when tens of millions of Americans are saying the same thing EVERY DAY. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    last year
An entirely reasonable and good statement. 

You should think about what you are saying.


 You are going to be shocked next year when tens of millions of Americans are saying the same thing EVERY DAY. 

I think there is going to be plenty of shock and tears and crying at the sky.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    last year
Trump blurts things out, the same way uninformed morons do.

And you think Biden is the better choice.  That's fucking hilarious.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.2  Snuffy  replied to  JBB @3    last year

To be honest you should have included the entire exchange.  But the partisan approach is to cherrypick the quote you wanted to get a reaction.  I would say you failed.  

In case you didn't bother to read the entire exchange, let me post it here.

The former president turned some heads with some of his comments during the town hall, most notably with his comments to Hannity's question asking Trump to pledge to "never abuse power as retribution against anybody."

"Except for day one," Trump said. "I want to close the border and I want to drill, drill, drill."

Hannity said "that's not retribution," with Trump quipping back, "I love this guy, he says, 'you're not going to be a dictator are you?'"

"I said, 'No, no, no, other than day one," Trump said.

"We're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling," Trump said. "After that, I'm not a dictator."

Hannity said that it sounded like what Trump was saying was that he would go back to his first-term policies, to which the former president agreed.

Trump's comments come after   multiple media outlets claimed   a second term for the former president would result in a "dictatorship."

Top moments from Trump’s ‘Hannity’ Town Hall (foxnews.com)

Part of the fear that is being pushed is that Trump would be a dictator if he should win the election.  This was his response to that.  Hard to believe that closing the border and restarting drilling which were both Executive Orders from his first term that Biden overroad with his own Executive Orders would be called a dictatorship. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.2.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Snuffy @3.2    last year

There you go with facts again, Snuffy!  jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @3    last year

Now that might be the most off topic deflection ever.  Good job!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.1  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    last year

Hannity interviewing Trump is in the article! 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.3.1    last year

And you couldn't even get the interaction right.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.3  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.2    last year

Trump will break laws, "Starting Day One"!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.3.3    last year

And you can prove this....how?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.3.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.4    last year

Same as always.................

256

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.5    last year

They just love using their fantasy as reality.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.3.7  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @3.3.3    last year
Trump will break laws, "Starting Day One"!

When did he say that? Maybe you should read the interview exchange (see comment 3.2 ). By the way, Executive Orders do not "break laws". Biden signed dozens of them on Day One ... remember?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.8  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.3.7    last year

No, Trump was talking of taking unlawful unconstitutional measures to punish his political opponents for opposing him.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.3.9  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @3.3.8    last year

That comment proves you didn't watch and listen to the interview and that particular exchange. No problem, JBB!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.3.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.3.8    last year
Trump was talking of taking unlawful unconstitutional measures to punish his political opponents for opposing him.

You mean like fake investigations at the state and federal levels?  Or are we supposed to forget about all that and act like nothing happened?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.11  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.10    last year

91 felony criminal indictments happened...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.3.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.3.11    last year

Doesn't answer my questions.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.13  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.12    last year

You cannot very well punish those who investiged Trump when they found the evidence to indict him for 91 felonies...

Trump admits he wants to be Dictator!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.3.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.3.13    last year

Still didn't answer my questions.

Goddamn you all on the left are completely befuddled by simple "Yes" and "No" questions.

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
3.4  goose is back  replied to  JBB @3    last year
Trump said, "Yes, On The Very First Day!" Any more questions?

Yes, finish the quote! He'll close the border and drill for oil, both people support!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.4.1  JBB  replied to  goose is back @3.4    last year

US oil production increased under Biden!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.4.1    last year

And average price per gallon has climbed from $2.39 to $3.25.

Way to lead, Joe!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    last year
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5  Sean Treacy    last year

All you need to know about the left's priorities at Harvard:

Calling for the Genocide of Jews?  ....Okay!

Using the wrong pronouns?  Violation of  Policy!

A   Title IX  training at  Harvard University  reportedly told students that failing to use a person's preferred  pronoun  could be a violation of university policy.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    last year

You forgot having a conservative speaker on campus...........violence  against the snowflakes. The same racist antisemite nazi snowflakes protesting Israel and supporting hamas that the college presidents are protecting.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"The presidents of Harvard, MIT and Penn were all asked the following question under oath at today’s congressional hearing on antisemitism:

Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university’s] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?

The answers they gave reflect the profound moral bankruptcy of Presidents Gay, Magill and Kornbluth. Representative Stefanik was so shocked with the answers that she asked each of them the same question over and over again, and they gave the same answers over and over again. In short, they said: It ‘depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing Jews.

This could be the most extraordinary testimony ever elicited in the Congress, certainly on the topic of genocide, which to remind us all is: “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group” The presidents’ answers reflect the profound educational, moral and ethical failures that pervade certain of our elite educational institutions due in large part to their failed leadership."

Bill Ackman on X: "The presidents of @Harvard, @MIT, and @Penn were all asked the following question under oath at today’s congressional hearing on antisemitism: Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university’s] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment? The… https://t.co/eVlPCHMcVZ" / X (twitter.com)

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
6.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university’s] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?
 It ‘depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing Jews.

So just camps for now?

This seems like something the Nazi's would have said in the beginning of the third Reich. surely we can find something somewhere to show these individuals are republicans right? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6.1    last year

Maybe we'll have somebody mention what Reagan did. We have at least one who is obsessed with him.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    last year

Who is that ''at least one'' that is obsessed with him, sounds like you're ID yourself again. 

On the other hand, I simply point out the facts to those that are factless on the breath of actions of Reagan's presidential terms. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @6.1.2    last year

You are constantly bringing him up.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    last year

Constantly is a pretty strong word, how many times have I ''brought him up?''. 

Is there anything wrong with ''bringing him up?''. After all, he is your hero since you bring him up a lot. I would think that you would be overjoyed that I'm bringing him up, but wait, I pointed out facts about Reagan. Ahhhh, that's why you don't want to hear or see comments on Reagan.

You know come to think of it you bring up Biden constantly and in very negative terms some of which are complete BS but do I whine about your bring up Biden, of course not I simply supply the facts in those cases. 

You have a good evening, Vic and I'll see you tomorrow.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
6.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year
It ‘depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing Jews.

Those women tried to clean up their antisemitic, hateful comments but never apologized for what they said under oath.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Tomorrow will be another day of riots looting and swarms of people crossing the southern border.

Have a good night.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    last year

IMO the American Constitutional First Amendment is just a little TOO lenient, and should be limited by the limitation that Canada applies that considers speech that is meant to or does in fact cause actual harm to other Canadians is an offence.  That would be similar to shouting "FIRE" in a crowded cinema, would it not?  Then perhaps the university's administrations would not be faced with such a dilemma.

 
 

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