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Garland Grilling

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  131 comments

Garland Grilling
'One of the themes that came out of this Garland hearing today was that there's two tiers of justice.'....Rep Massie


Yesterday it was AG Merrick Garland's turn to take the hot seat. The hearing was conducted by a House committee investigating the weaponization of government agencies.


Garland denied that the DOJ under his leadership has been politicized & weaponized. He also refused to turn over the tape of Joe Biden's testimony during the Robert Hur investigation. There was no explanation given as to why the American people should not be able to hear it.

Garland also tried to dispute that Jack Smith tampered with evidence. There is no question of that. Jack Smith has already admitted to it. Then Garland claimed that he didn't know if his own department had communicated with Fani Willis or Alvin Bragg. Rep Jim Jordan told Garland that it was simple: turn over any and all communications the DOJ had with them. Garland won't say, which leads anyone with common sense (unlike "critical thinkers") to conclude that there was communication between the two. Nathan Wade came up from Georgia and had contact with the White House, the DOJ and the Jan 6th Committee. Garland would go on to claim that there was no difference between the way the FBI handled the Trump documents case and the Biden documents case. It was really bizarre.

Merrick Garland has been running cover for Joe Biden and has had a big hand in the prosecutions of Donald Trump.

For those interested here is a sampling of yesterday's hearing:



Btw the House lacks the votes to hold Garland in contempt.


In other news:

The ACLU is suing the Biden Administration for Biden's new executive order which purports to limit the border invasion plaguing the country.

FBI Director Wray testifies that terror concerns have never been higher.

Biden responded aggressively when asked whether he was too old to be president. “I can do it better than anybody you know,” he said. Did he really think that up himself?

The Hunter Biden laptop was presented as evidence in a Delaware Court yesterday. Prosecutors also played the audiobook of his memoir and showed the jury text messages as evidence that he was abusing drugs when he applied for a gun in 2018. Biden family members were seen "crying." This may be the sympathy trial or a nullification trial.

Wisconsin charged three former Trump advisers in a fake elector's scheme, not unlike the schemes democrats perpetrated in 2016.

Ukraine struck missile launchers inside Russia using US weapons days after getting Biden's permission.




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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Good morning.

Yesterday tempers clashed at a Chicago Town Meeting:



"For the record, prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children, and the children yet unborn."... Rod Serling

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Some people cannot pass up any opportunity to make black people look bad. 

This story has NOTHING to do with politics. 

The mayor is accused of using town funds for personal purposes and Lightfoot was hired by opponents of the mayor to investigate it. 

Yesterday tempers clashed at a Chicago Town Meeting:

Nope. Dolton is not in Chicago. 

What a quote from Rod Serling has to do with this is anybody's guess. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 weeks ago
Some people cannot pass up any opportunity to make black people look bad. 

You are the only one who brought race into it. My point is simply: what has become of a once great city.


This story has NOTHING to do with politics. 

Even if it didn't, it is still an important story and discussing news stories is what NT is primarily about.


The mayor is accused of using town funds for personal purposes and Lightfoot was hired by opponents of the mayor to investigate it. 

Then why the ruckus?


Nope. Dolton is not in Chicago. 

Technically it is not. It borders Chicago, but it is a part of Cook County.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 weeks ago
Some people cannot pass up any opportunity to make black people look bad. 

You mean like the NY Governor stating that black children don't know what computers are?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    2 weeks ago
Technically it is not.

There is no "technically". Dolton is a mostly working class black suburb of Chicago. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    2 weeks ago
Dolton is a mostly working class black suburb of Chicago. 

And?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.2    2 weeks ago
You mean like the NY Governor stating that black children don't know what computers are?

or young liberals thinking black people don't know how to get an ID?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Virtually everything the Republican says in your video is false. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

Do tell.

What for example?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 weeks ago

00:51 seconds

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

Oh, you took exception to the part where Rep Van Drew says a President does have the right to declassify?

Of that long indictment of Garland's DOJ, you are going to argue that Trump didn't declassify the documents when he had the chance.

Well, John, I have to rate your little objection as irrelevant.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

You probably believe trump declassified the documents by thinking about them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

No, John, I agree with you. He should have done it as President, but if that is your only objection to Rep Van Drew's litany of complaints with a clearly politicized DOJ, I have nothing but pity for you.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

I watched the video and almost none of it is true. People can watch it for themselves. I am not going to waste my time recounting whats in it for you. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    2 weeks ago
I am not going to waste my time

Oh, ok.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
2.1.7  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    2 weeks ago

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Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

Prove it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2    2 weeks ago

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Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

Yet another personal attack lacking any value or substance. 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
3  evilone    2 weeks ago
Garland also tried to dispute that Jack Smith tampered with evidence. There is no question of that. Jack Smith has already admitted to it.

Still making shit up? Smith DID NOT admit to tampering with evidence. He notified the court that the contents of a box was shuffled out of order. The prosecution, the court overseer AND the defense all had access to that box. He also put in the notification the court still has the original document scans which show the original order. Just stop posting lies.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @3    2 weeks ago
He notified the court that the contents of a box was shuffled out of order.

That is the undeniable truth.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 weeks ago
He notified the court that the contents of a box was shuffled out of order.
That is the undeniable truth.

Are you going to explain how that constitutes " tampering with evidence "?

Elements of the Offense
The prosecution must establish all elements of the crime to prove a criminal offense. For a conviction, the state must prove each element beyond a reasonable doubt. The basic elements of the crime of tampering with evidence include:

1. Intent: The accused's state of mind is a key element of the offense. The prosecution must show that the defendant interfered with evidence in a willful or purposeful manner. Accidental destruction or simple abandonment (throwing away) may not be enough to prove intent.
2. Knowledge: A person acts with knowledge when they are aware that their conduct will probably cause a certain result. With a tampering charge, the accused must believe there is a high chance that their actions will damage or conceal the evidence.
3. Evidence: This includes every physical object or document that might be produced in any legal trial, proceeding, or investigation. It also includes digital images and video recordings.
4. Awareness of a Potential or Pending Investigation: The accused has reason to know that a criminal investigation or official proceeding is ongoing or about to start. This aligns with their intent to conceal, alter, or destroy evidence. It cannot be a general awareness that crimes may lead to criminal investigations and proceedings.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

“The Government acknowledges that this is inconsistent with what Government counsel previously understood and represented to the Court,” the document said.

“There are several possible explanations, including the above-described instances in which the boxes were accessed, as well as the size and shape of certain items in the boxes possibly leading to movement of items,” the filing said.

“For example, the boxes contain items smaller than standard paper such as index cards, books, and stationary, which shift easily when the boxes are carried, especially because many of the boxes are not full,” prosecutors wrote.

But the detail is a big deal, because part of   Trump’s defense   is expected to be that documents were packed in chronological order, with no regard for classification marking, according to   Just the News .

“Prosecutors and investigators should never tamper with or alter evidence in their possession, including the order of documents in a box, because one never knows what may become relevant or crucial to a court or jury later in a case,” Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz told the news outlet.

Jack Smith's Team Admits Key Evidence in Trump Case Has Been Tampered With, Court Misled About It (msn.com)

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
3.1.3  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 weeks ago
That is the undeniable truth.

It isn't evidence tampering.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @3.1.3    2 weeks ago

It is.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

It is not.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.5    2 weeks ago

Not what?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

I suppose he is a law professor.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  evilone @3    2 weeks ago

Their lying is getting significantly worse. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    2 weeks ago

evilone proved it was true

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    2 weeks ago
Their lying is getting significantly worse.

The quality of those lies is also getting worse.  They're dumbing down their lies for their rapidly shrinking base.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.2    2 weeks ago

The only one lying is your president.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.3    2 weeks ago
The only one lying is your president.

So when Trump stated that he never said "Lock her up", he was not lying?????

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.4    2 weeks ago

Trump doesnt "lie", that would be dishonest. He playfully exaggerates. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2.6  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.5    2 weeks ago

And Brandon lies it is just "Joe being Joe. He embellishes a lot."

Brandon has match Trump lie for lie; and since he has been in the political realm far longer- has left Trump in his dust when it comes to number and magnitude.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.6    2 weeks ago
Brandon has match Trump lie for lie

Go ahead and prove that.

Trump has been documented with 30,573 lies during his 4 years as POTUS.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.8  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.7    2 weeks ago

meh, that's only 21 lies per day, every day he was in office...

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.2.9  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.7    2 weeks ago
Trump has been documented with 30,573 lies during his 4 years as POTUS.

Most of which the writer just didn't like what Trump said, so therefore to the triggered, it was a "lie".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.4    2 weeks ago
So when Trump stated that he never said "Lock her up", he was not lying?????

What is important is that Trump never went after Hillary Clinton.

And Joe Biden did go after Donald Trump.

Your priorities need work.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.10    2 weeks ago
t is important is that Trump never went after Hillary Clinton.

Yep, he could have acted like  the City of New York and decided to try Clinton after the DOJ initially decided not to prosecute. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.11    2 weeks ago

We learned a lot from the DAs who ran on "getting Trump."

We have people here who think that the NY case is legitimate, and the investigation of Hillary by Comey was above board and the Russia hoax was real.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.12    2 weeks ago

apparently some have a lot to learn

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.13    2 weeks ago

We learn as we go. 

Alvin Bragg can start explaining next week before a House Committee.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.14    2 weeks ago

obviously not

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.2.16  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.14    2 weeks ago

Alvin Bragg can start explaining next week before a House Committee.

Not much to explain, a jury convicted trump....case closed. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.17  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @3.2.8    2 weeks ago

meh, that's only 21 lies per day, every day he was in office...

There were many more, but these are only the lies that were considered official and documented.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.18  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @3.2.9    2 weeks ago

Most of which the writer just didn't like what Trump said, so therefore to the triggered, it was a "lie".

Feel free to provide proof of your claim.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.19  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.10    2 weeks ago
What is important is that Trump never went after Hillary Clinton.

Damn!  That's not even moving the goalposts, that is a full rout and retreat.

And Joe Biden did go after Donald Trump.

Go ahead and provide some evidence of this claim...

Your priorities need work.

My priorities are fine, I responded directly to your statement in 3.2.3

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.17    2 weeks ago
here were many more, but these are only the lies that were considered official and documented.

No they aren't. Even the compiler doesn't claim they are lies

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.21  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.20    2 weeks ago

Even the compiler doesn't claim they are lies

Currently the numbers stand at:

Trump Lies        Biden Lies

  30,573                0 presented

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.21    2 weeks ago

I got it at:

New York Times: Lies in every report on Trump

Joe Biden: Lies about 50% of the time

Donald Trump: brags and embellishes

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.2.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.21    2 weeks ago

Link or it's bullshit...............or they aren't even tracking Biden. I'll take the latter.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.24  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.23    2 weeks ago
Link or it's bullshit.

Try to keep up.  Link was in my 1st post.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilone @3    2 weeks ago
Still making shit up? Smith DID NOT admit to tampering with evidence. He notified the court that the contents of a box was shuffled out of order. 

Not only did they mishandle classified material (the very act they are "prosecuting" Trump for), their mishandling is also constitutes tampering with evidence.  

You really need to do better.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
3.3.1  evilone  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3    2 weeks ago
Not only did they mishandle classified material

Who's they? The evidence was overseen by a court ordered manager. 

You really need to do better.

You don't seem to have a clue what you are talking about.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilone @3.3.1    2 weeks ago
Who's they?

Again, you need to do better. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  evilone @3.3.1    2 weeks ago

Doesn't

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3    2 weeks ago
their mishandling is also constitutes tampering with evidence.  

Where did this happen?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.3.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3.3.4    2 weeks ago

You really need to pay attention to what's going on.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.3.6  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.5    2 weeks ago
You really need to pay attention to what's going on.

At Mar-A-Lago... How did the evidence get there? 

Oops. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.3.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3.3.6    2 weeks ago

Thanks for confirming you aren't paying attention.  

Moving on.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4  Tessylo  replied to  evilone @3    2 weeks ago

Not possible.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Keeping this clown off the Supreme court was McConnell's greatest success.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 weeks ago

Obama had us believing that Garland was a moderate dedicated to the law.

Obama knew what he had.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Garland's DOJ is protecting us from the true threats to our safety, like putting 75 year old wheel chair bound grandmas in prison for years for praying at the wrong place.   Public Safety  demands locking  up sick old women and intervening  to keep  domestic terrorists who throw Molotov Cocktails at police out of prison.  Totally normal priorities. 

That's Democrat's America in 2024.  Pray at the wrong place and get charged with felony and go to jail for years. A gang attacks a pregnant women on  the streets of Chicago for the crime of walking in public and beat her so bad she loses the baby and get charged with a single count of  misdemeanor battery.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago

I still want to know what became of the FBI officials who authorized the investigations of parents and Catholics.

And the director says we've never faced a greater threat from terrorists - he means, of course, the people we know nothing about flowing into the country. Isn't that where FBI assets should be used ?????

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    2 weeks ago
t to know what became of the FBI officials who authorized the investigations of parents and Catholics.

Probably a promotion. Following orders. There are almost never any consequences, as the Steele Dossier fiasco demonstrated. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
Probably a promotion.

And if they asked Garland, he probably wouldn't know.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
5.2  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 weeks ago
like putting 75 year old wheel chair bound grandmas in prison for years for praying at the wrong place. 

I assume you are talking about Rebecca Lavrenz who btw is 71 and not in a wheelchair. However she is a card carrying member of that 'fun' group FEC United ... a truly fun group:

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @5.2    2 weeks ago

you should seed this

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
5.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

I would but today's denizens of downer denialism are downright demented.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @5.2    2 weeks ago

No, no, I get how its confusing  since the the BIden doj  focuses on prosecuting old women and not  enforcing the law at the border.  The Biden DOJ  prosecuted the dangerous wheelchair bound 75 year of Grandman Paulette Harlow who terrifies the populace by praying the rosary.  You know, the type criminal Progressive judges mock instead of bend over backward to free.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @5.2.2    2 weeks ago
gang attacks a pregnant women on  the streets of Chicago for the crime of walking in public and beat her so bad she loses the baby and get charged with a single count of  misdemeanor battery.  

no surprise  you chose to ignore this. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.3    2 weeks ago
BIden doj

I agree, they are going after Hunter Biden now....the madness must be stopped!!!!

(/s)

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @5.2    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.5    2 weeks ago

I'll be covering the trial.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.8  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.7    2 weeks ago

I'll be covering the trial.

YAY!!!!!! 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.5    2 weeks ago

Lol. "going after'  by letting the statute of limitations expire on felonies. 'going after'  by keeping the FBI from investigating and tipping Hunter off to searches. 'going after' by trying to let him walk with an unprecedented sweet heart deal that was laughed out of court by a judge.  They only 'went after' Hunter after whistleblowers came forward and publicly detailed all the special treatment Hunter had received and essentially forced the DOJ to prosecute. 

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
5.2.10  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    2 weeks ago

Thou shalt not break the law and in Ms Harlow's  case it was the FACE Act.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @5.2.10    2 weeks ago
shalt not break the law and in Ms Harlow's  case it was the FACE Act.

Exactly, use prosecutorial discretion to imprison   the 75 year old lady with a debilitating illness, and let the MS-13 member roam the country free.  Perfectly rational use of resources. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @5.2    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

EXCLUSIVE:  House Judiciary Committee Chairman  Jim Jordan , R-Ohio, told Fox News Digital he is proposing an appropriations package that would "defund the lawfare activities" of state and federal prosecutors leading "politically sensitive investigations," pointing specifically to Special Counsel Jack Smith, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. 

The proposal comes just days after former President Donald Trump was convicted on all 34 counts of falsifying business records, stemming from charges brought against him  by Bragg.

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Rep Jordan urges Congress to 'defund lawfare activities' of Trump prosecutors | Fox News

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    2 weeks ago

Jordan has yet to pass anything in congress. He's nothing more than a self radicalized rightist nazi. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @6.1    2 weeks ago

So, more impotence from the gqp, like the former 'president', a bunch of spinless limp dicks

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @6.1    2 weeks ago

like the rest of the gqp?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.1    2 weeks ago

Haven't you heard?

Eight Senate Republicans, led by Mike Lee (R-Utah), are  vowing to oppose major legislation and Biden nominees  led by the Democratic Senate, following guilty verdicts for former President Donald Trump in New York.

The move could further bring legislative activity in the upper chamber to a slog. Specifically, the GOP lawmakers said they would oppose any increases to non-security related funding, Biden judicial and political nominations and "expedited consideration and passage" of Democratic legislation.

Eight Senate Republicans vow to oppose all Biden nominees, Democratic legislation - Live Updates - POLITICO

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    2 weeks ago

I'm not surprised Vic, it's all about worshiping the GOP Messiah, they could care less about helping the American people. Mike Lee is so devoted to trump he has stretch marks around his mouth. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    2 weeks ago

So like the whiny little bitches, spoiled brats, that the gqp have become, we don't like that it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the former 'president' is now a convicted felon, we're going to grind the Justice System to a halt.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.4    2 weeks ago
I'm not surprised Vic,

Good let that be a lesson to the democrats.

Don't do dirty things and it won't come back to bite you.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.6    2 weeks ago
Don't do dirty things and it won't come back to bite you.
  • banging a playboy bunny while married and paying her off not to squeal
  • banging a porn star and paying her off not to blab days before an election
  • writing that payment off as legal expenses
  • grabbing a journalist by the genitals in a dept store and then defaming her, twice, so far...
  • lying about the results of a free and fair election
  • attempting to subvert the results of that election
  • provoking a bunch of domestic terrorist supporters to obstruct a constitutionally mandated certification of that election
  • doing nothing to stop it for 3 hours

... and that's just for starters. maybe that definition of "dirty things" needs some right wing adjustment...

what would the maga cult be saying and doing if a democrat had done those things?

it looks to me like the polling swan dive a 34x convicted felon is about to take, and it's collateral damage in november, is starting to register in the minds of the folks that are anti-constitution, anti-rule of law, and anti-democracy. it kind of looks like the great white dope has a math problem. a math problem that will peak 4 days before the convention when his extra curricular theatrics outside the court room could cause incarceration. 34 convictions and a dozen associated gag violations, doesn't look good...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1.7    2 weeks ago

The former 'president' is the king of 'dirty things'jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @6.1.7    2 weeks ago

Leslie Stahl: “We can’t verify the authenticity of Hunter Biden’s laptop.”

What she meant: “We are doing everything we can to cover up the corruption of the Biden crime family.”


 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.9    2 weeks ago

Stahl attacking trump to cover up a conspiracy for Biden basically sums up the role of the  MSM.

The msm has never asked joe Biden to explain his lie on the debate stage about the laptop either. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.10    2 weeks ago

The main thing that got Trump going in that interview was that Stahl began it with "Are you ready for some tough questions?'

That was all that Trump got from the media and he took them all on willingly.

As he pointed out Biden only got softball questions.

And Obama used to get questions that were so loving, that he was visibly embarrassed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.11    2 weeks ago
That was all that Trump got from the media and he took them all on willingly.

LOL.

The media has handled Trump with kid gloves since the day he stepped off that escalator. 

The number of "tough" interviews Trump has endured over the past 10 years could be counted on less than one hand.  He no longer even takes the chance, confining all his interviews now to right wing media. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.12    2 weeks ago
The media has handled Trump with kid gloves since the day he stepped off that escalator. 

This is where you lose all credibility.  How you make this statement is a seed containing a link to 60 minutes attacking him for making true statements of fact because they chose to push Biden's lies  is beyond me. The inability of the left to recognize reality and admit mistakes (shouldn't have lied about the laptop being Russian disinformation and censored news orgs over it right before an election) explains Trump's appeal to so many.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.13    2 weeks ago

Please mention all the tough interviews Trump has "endured" over the past 10 years. It is a very short list. 

There is not a single interviewer that I know of who has ever confronted Trump over his constant need to lie. Its disgraceful that has never happened. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.14    2 weeks ago
ion all the tough interviews Trump has "endured" over the past 10 years. It is a very short list. 

Left wing news  organizations refuse to have him on because Trump wins the argument and progressives cry about "platforming" Trump. You know this. 

all of us remember Trump holding countless UNSCRIPTED press conferences where progressive reporters had free reign.

 There is not a single interviewer that I know of who has ever confronted Trump over his constant need to lie. Its disgraceful that has never happened. 

Joe Biden lied about the laptop being Russian disinformation at a debate. No one has ever asked him about that. He lies all the time and the media doesn't ask him why he needs to lie. Why doesn't that bother you?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.15    2 weeks ago
Left wing news  organizations refuse to have him on because Trump wins the argument

Trump defenders are getting crazier and crazier. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.15    2 weeks ago

Three and a half years later Trump has never explained his behavior in the White House on the afternoon of Jan 6, 2021, and reporters never ask him.  Only one interviewer asked him, Kristen Welker of NBC, and Trump told her that he wasnt going to tell her.  And then she let it go. 

Its all a disgrace. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.16    2 weeks ago

Lol.  Trump walked all over Kaitlan Walker last year  and progressives whined about giving him airtime. 

That you try and deny this is beneath you. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.19  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.17    2 weeks ago
Its all a disgrace. 

You shill for a man who almost never gives interviews to friendly, fawning media and absolutely refuses to submit to hostile grilling or unscripted press conferences.

It's beyond absurd for any biden supporter to whine about Trump being protected from hostile media. It's gaslighting. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.18    2 weeks ago

WHO IS KAITLAN WALKER

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.20    2 weeks ago

Kaitlan Collins, sorry. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.18    2 weeks ago

Why are you making light of him acting like a total jackass in that interview with Caitlin Collins

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
6.1.23  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.16    2 weeks ago

Most Trump hater have already lost it.....long ago

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
6.1.24  afrayedknot  replied to  bugsy @6.1.23    2 weeks ago

“Most Trump hater have already lost it.....long ago…”

All trump ‘haters’ already got it long ago…and it is less a matter of ‘hate’ and more about being aware of the truth. The facts are not defined by nor subject to partisan rhetoric…they are immutable. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    2 weeks ago

the first step of the revenge and retribution campaign of the former 'president'

what does he have on jordan and the rest of the scummy gqp?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    2 weeks ago
the first step of the revenge and retribution campaign of the former 'president'

Revenge and retribution follows something done to someone.

The dems have done a lot to Trump.  That is a big bill to be paid. I want it paid in full.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

The dems have done a lot to Trump.  That is a big bill to be paid. I want it paid in full.

So you don't care about America, you just wanted revenge... Good to know Vic. 

Dems didn't anything to trump, he did it to himself, you just refuse to accept reality. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.2    2 weeks ago

revenge and retribution

we lost

our hero lost

we're sore fucking losers

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.4    2 weeks ago

we're sore fucking losers

That's what it boils down to. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

The former 'president' did it all to his traitor thug self.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.2    2 weeks ago
Dems didn't anything to trump

Do you really believe what you say?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
6.2.8  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

“Revenge and retribution follows something done to someone.”

When those supposedly affronted have become so bitter, so selfish, and so utterly consumed with hatred, they and theirs lose all focus, all understanding of the consequences of their actions, and ultimately, all reason. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @6.2.8    2 weeks ago
When those supposedly affronted have become so bitter, so selfish, and so utterly consumed with hatred, they and theirs lose all focus, all understanding of the consequences of their actions, and ultimately, all reason. 

A perfect explanation of TDS.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
6.2.10  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.9    2 weeks ago

“A perfect explanation of TDS.”

Let it stand.

It is less an explanation of your manufactured go to deflection and more a statement that you are unable or unwilling to accept or refute. Weak. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @6.2.10    2 weeks ago
Let it stand.

Is that now against the rules?

I don't use that term often, but your sentence fit perfectly.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.12  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    2 weeks ago

Do you really believe what you say?

He was CONVICTED, Vic, if he was innocent he WOULD NOT have been convicted. There was trump supporters on the jury and THEY said he was  guilty. Grow a set and admit he was guilty! 

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
6.2.13  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago
That is a big bill to be paid. I want it paid in full.

You and Captain Ahab.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @6.2.8    2 weeks ago

So true afk, so true

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @6.2.10    2 weeks ago

Yes, because it's not those who want to see the former 'president' see justice that are suffering from TDS.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
6.2.16  Greg Jones  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.12    2 weeks ago

Guilty of what, exactly?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.2.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.12    2 weeks ago
e was CONVICTED, Vic, if he was innocent he WOULD NOT have been convicted.

Lol.  So you are reduced to arguing no one ever has been convicted of a crime they didn't commit. 

Can't wait for liberals to that argument apart... 

ted. There was trump supporters on the jury and THEY said he was  guilty

Repeating something you made up doesn't make it true. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
6.2.18  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @6.2.16    2 weeks ago

Oh boy....here we go...

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
6.2.19  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.17    2 weeks ago
There was trump supporters on the jury and THEY said he was  guilty

Apparently he has some sort of inside info because he is the only one that has ever said this.......with no proof.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.20  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @6.2.16    2 weeks ago

Guilty of what, exactly?

Go look up the charges Greg, go look them up, they are all over the internet for all to read. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.21  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @6.2.19    2 weeks ago

Apparently he has some sort of inside info because he is the only one that has ever said this.......with no proof.

How many dems do you suppose get their news from truth social?

0. 

Juror #2 ... 

512

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
6.2.22  George  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.21    2 weeks ago

Sigh……..

JUROR 2:
An investment banker who lives with a spouse in Hell’s Kitchen in Midtown Manhattan, Juror 2 has a master’s degree in business administration and gets most of their news from the social media platform X. The juror follows former Trump lawyer and prosecution witness Michael Cohen on social media, as well as Mueller She Wrote, a popular anti-Trump account.
 
 

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