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Hunter convicted, Joe freezes and Europe finally turns against mass migration.

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  115 comments

Hunter convicted, Joe freezes and Europe finally turns against mass migration.
A guilty plea would have materially improved the chances that Hunter could get probation and avoid jail. Instead, Hunter went forward with a nullification strategy and, in so doing, it may have nullified his best chance to reduce the risk of jail time....Jonathan Turley.


The first Hunter Biden trial is now in the books. It was a case that need not have gone to trial. Hunter could have pleaded guilty and worked out a deal. However, Hunter's attorney Abbe Lowell took a big gamble and lost. Lowell was counting on local jurors in Delaware, where the Bidens are almost regarded as royalty, to nullify the charges. That didn't happen. In the meantime, Joe Biden vowed never to pardon his son, which is very likely to change if Hunter were to get jail time or Joe were to lose the election. The leftwing media is now hailing the conviction as "proof" that there is no double standard. The obvious truth is that the Hunter Biden case was an open & shut case while the Trump case was a novel use/misuse of the law to serve up a conviction which is almost certain to be overturned.


Monday evening showcased another sad senile moment for Joe Biden. A concert was being held at the White House to commemorate the day that few Americans had ever heard about until a few years ago. It is called "Juneteenth" believe it or not and it celebrates the day when a Union general arrived to inform a group of enslaved African Americans in Galveston, Texas, of their freedom under the Emancipation Proclamation. Right now, it seems to be far more important to white progressives. The always pandering Biden signed a law in 2021 that made June 19, or if you insist: Juneteenth , a federal holiday. The main takeaway from the evening was Joe Biden freezing for quite a while as gospel singer Kirk Franklin performed his song Love Theory. Onlookers must have wondered if it was Joe or a statue of Joe. Luckily there were no pro-Palestinian protestors on hand or Joe might have had "kill the Jews" spraypainted on his face.

Here:

https://youtu.be/yDTiZisXrkw?list=RDNSyDTiZisXrkw

Finally, there is the big election story out of Europe. The predominant winners across Europe were political parties that promised to reduce the flow of migration. Mass migration has never risen so quickly across these European nations as they have since they have allowed themselves to be guided by a bureaucracy in Brussels. The consequences have been devastating. More labor competition has hurt the workers who already live in these countries. Governments have strained to provide social services to the migrants. And the rise in immigration has been so rapid that many citizens feel uncomfortable with the conflict in cultures. The surprisingly successful Brexit campaign in 2016 was all about mass migration and the lack of sovereign authority.

In the elections for the European Parliament this past week, the National Rally , Marine Le Pen’s right leaning party, won more votes than any other in France. In Germany, the AfD, a nationalist party, finished second, ahead of the radical leftist party that governs the country. In Italy, the Conservative party that already runs the country finished first.


In other news:

Biden, after opening up the border early in his presidency and watching migration soar is pretending to reverse course. Obviously his campaign wants to take the border crisis off the table.

A federal jury convicted Hunter Biden on three felony counts for lying about his drug use when he applied to buy a handgun in 2018. Hunter Biden is set to stand trial in September in a separate tax case.

Sam Brown, a Trump-endorsed former Army captain whom party leaders consider a strong candidate, won Nevada's state Republican primary.

A federal judge struck down parts of the state of Florida's ban on gender transition care for minors, as well as its restrictions on adults seeking such care.

A U.N. commission accused both Israel and Palestinian groups of war crimes. Its report was the U.N.’s first detailed examination of Oct. 7 and the war in Gaza.

An Israeli strike killed a leading Hezbollah Commander in southern Lebanon.

Hamas militants blew up a building in Rafah, Gaza, killing four Israeli soldiers.

Biden approved sending a second Patriot Missile system to Ukraine.

The U.S. banned imports from three Chinese companies, citing their links to forced labor.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Good morning.

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Hunter Biden with his wife, Melissa Cohen Biden, and Jill Biden, the first lady.  Hannah Beier/Reuters

Hunter Biden may end up challenging the very gun law that his father has long promoted.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

It would be pretty funny if Biden v Delaware expands gun rights, but I assume hunter will just appeal until the pardon 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    one month ago

He has plenty of money to do it and how he acquired it is on that same laptop that was used in the "gun" trial.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    one month ago
It would be pretty funny if Biden v Delaware expands gun rights, but I assume hunter will just appeal until the pardon 

Well, whatever Delaware does about gun rights, I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it would have any effect on Europe "Finally Turning Against  Migration".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @1.1.2    one month ago

Are you trying to link the three separate stories?  To feign confusion?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    one month ago
Are you trying to link the three separate stories?  To feign confusion?

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Hunter Convicted, Joe Freezes And Europe Finally Turns Against Mass Migration.

The U.S. banned imports from three Chinese companies, citing their links to forced labor.

A U.N. commission accused both Israel and Palestinian groups of war crimes. Its report was the U.N.’s first detailed examination of Oct. 7 and the war in Gaza.

Sam Brown, a Trump-endorsed former Army captain whom party leaders consider a strong candidate, won Nevada's state Republican primary.

Biden approved sending a second Patriot Missile system to Ukraine.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @1.1.4    one month ago

As the New York Times once said: "All the news that's fit to print."

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    one month ago

Why did you put them all together in the first place?  To feign confusion?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    one month ago

It is too early to have to defend why I do this or that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    one month ago
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    one month ago

So you don't stand behind what you post.

Got it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.9    one month ago

Plus, can't back it up?  Not sure of the wording or phrasing I'm looking for

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    one month ago

Yes, but those articles are to be found at the NY Times, not 'here'

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    one month ago

It shouldn't matter what time it is to defend what you have put forth.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago
the Trump case was a novel use/misuse of the law to serve up a conviction which is almost certain to be overturned

I'm guessing less than 2 weeks on trump's first probation violation of criminal association before his sentencing...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago

'Almost certain to be overturned'

Is that what's called a wet dream?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago

I love the trumpU graduates armchair lawyering.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.2.3  afrayedknot  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago

“…before sentencing?”

And at sentencing, is it not incumbent upon the defendant to make apologies before the court for the actions that found him guilty? 

That moment will be interesting to say the least, for he has demonstrated no intention to ever accept accountability.

This weakness of character may land him in a place he would never have imagined, and has avoided to date, but may be ultimately self-imposed. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  afrayedknot @1.2.3    one month ago
This weakness of character may land him in a place he would never have imagined, and has avoided to date, but may be ultimately self-imposed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    one month ago

#34

How many other charges is it facing in all the other pending criminal trials?  

so many, I forget

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago

Funny how Hunter is not disputing his verdict while #34 never shuts the fuck up about his victim status

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    one month ago

Of course, he'll appeal and who wouldn't?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.7    one month ago
Of course, he'll appeal and who wouldn't?

So in other words, he IS disputing his verdict.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    one month ago

Or how the left are crying because Trump is appealing.  What are you all afraid of?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.8    one month ago

No.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    one month ago

and we're not the ones crying over #34, it's you all

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    one month ago

If he's appealing it, he is disputing it. Not that hard to surmise.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.11    one month ago
and we're not the ones crying over #34, it's you all

Yes we could use Eisenhower about now.

 
 
 
George
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1.2.14  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.13    one month ago

We could start to refer to Joe as 70, which represents his currently functioning IQ level.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.2.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  George @1.2.14    one month ago

70?!?  Holy shit you're generous.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.16  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    one month ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.11    one month ago

You all have been crying about him since 2015.  You competing with Traitor Joe for lies?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.12    one month ago

No.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.18    one month ago

I'm not an armchair lawyer though and don't know much about it like some here pretend to - I don't keep up with this - is Hunter appealing the verdict?  I don't know that answer.  Would it be in his best interest to do so or accept the verdict unlike #34?  

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  Krishna    one month ago

And Europe Finally Turns Against Mass Migration

I came across this video awhile back-- it shows how a very liberal" country like Denmark has made such a huge shift in its attitude towards immigration: 

Denmark Declares War on Multiculturalism

CLOSED TO IMMIGRATION?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @2    one month ago

Immigration or mass migration?

Multiculturalism can be very divisive.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago
Immigration or mass migration?

True!

Whatever you call it, for some time it had been a massive inflow of immigrants. 

Mainly from the "war-torn" countries of the Middle east.

And its not surprising they would pick one of the Scandinavian countries since they had such generous welfare benefits. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @2.1.1    one month ago

It is amazing how much they know about the first-world countries they choose.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    one month ago

Certain folks/people make multiculturalism 'very divisive'

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    one month ago
Certain folks/people make multiculturalism 'very divisive'

Exactly, are you thinking of Denmark and the other Nordic counties.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago


Indiana’s coach benched Caitlin Clark and three other starters for the final 14-plus minutes of Monday’s  89-72 loss to the Sun according to the Indianapolis Star , before blasting them for their defense.

Clark played a career-low 22 minutes in the blowout loss.

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Indiana coach Christie Sides is not pleased with her team’s defense. David Butler II-USA TODAY Sports

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    one month ago
Indiana’s coach benched Caitlin Clark and three other starters for the final 14-plus minutes of Monday’s   89-72 loss to the Sun ,   according to the Indianapolis Star , before blasting them for their defense.

No wonder they found Hunter Biden guilty!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @3.1    one month ago

And let us not leave out what happened in Wisconsin

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    one month ago
And let us not leave out what happened in Wisconsin

And while we're discussing the subject of Hunter Biden, Caitlan Clark, and European mass migration, if its OK with you I can post a video of cute kittens I found on Tik-Tok.

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Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @3.1.2    one month ago

My morning article is open to all topics, except for taunting memes.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.4  George  replied to  Krishna @3.1.2    one month ago
a video of cute kittens I found on Tik-Tok.

Yes please.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @3.1.4    one month ago

I guess most of us like cats...clean, quiet, no problems.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    one month ago

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Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    one month ago

And let us not leave out what happened in Wisconsin

Ex-Trump Campaign Attorney Chesebro, Two Others Charged in Wisconsin Fake Elector Scheme

Great news, jail the scum.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @3.1.7    one month ago

Excellent!  They need to go after every single one involved in that 'cockamamie scheme' in every single state - including the former 'president' #34.  Traitors, every single one of them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.1.7    one month ago

Is that the same thing as democrats did in 2016?

At least a half-dozen Democratic electors have signed onto an attempt to block Donald Trump from winning an Electoral College majority, an effort designed not only to deny Trump the presidency but also to undermine the legitimacy of the institution.

Democratic presidential electors revolt against Trump - POLITICO

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.10  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.9    one month ago
Is that the same thing as democrats did in 2016?

Not even close, another swing and miss...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.9    one month ago

#34 has done absolutely nothing to undermine the legitimacy of the institution

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    one month ago

Of course there's no comparison to prevent a traitor like #34 trying to overthrow Democracy AGAIN

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    one month ago

How easily we forget what when on when Trump won.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    one month ago

The cover ups of him doing Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.14    one month ago

prior to #34 'winning'?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    one month ago

'It's no secret how I feel about the former 'president's' conviction so ethically and morally I have to be consistent, and say that, in light of this verdict, I don't believe Hunter Biden should be President'

Stephen Colbert

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.16    one month ago
Stephen Colbert

He still around?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.18  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.15    one month ago
prior to #34 'winning'?

Eisenhower was president in the 50's and early 60's so the answer is no.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.12    one month ago
Of course there's no comparison to prevent a traitor like #34 trying to overthrow Democracy AGAIN

I didn't realize Eisenhower has ever tried to overthrow Democracy.

Please supply link

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.20  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.18    one month ago

#34 is the number of felonies Trump is already convicted of!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.20    one month ago
#34 is the number of felonies Trump is already convicted of..............

and childishly used as his new moniker

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.22  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    one month ago

Pretty easy to forget since there weren't 61 lawsuits (losses) filed by the dems.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.23  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.21    one month ago
and childishly used as his new moniker

Like Brandon? Traitor Joe et al ?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.24  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.23    one month ago

Yep just like that

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.23    one month ago

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Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.26  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.1.20    one month ago

Very clever S/

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.27  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.21    one month ago

Hoping it will catch on.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.25    one month ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.29  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.27    one month ago
Hoping it will catch on.  

Like all the cutesy little references

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.29    one month ago

Try this one on for size

"Trump is a convicted felon.  He offers no vision for the future and instead rants about sharks, electric boats, windmills and toilets.  He constantly lies about the border, even though he's the one who killed the bipartisan border deal.  He lies about the rule of law and the system of justice.  He calls January 6th insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol 'warriors'.  Trump has made it clear that his entire campaign is about HIMSELF."

Regarding his latest unhinged rant and rave fest 'campaign rally' and teleprompter fail.

"Unhinged, rambling, incoherent."

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.30    one month ago

Forgot to credit Nicole Wallace for the above.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.32  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.30    one month ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.33  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.30    one month ago

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Snuffy
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3.1.34  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.5    one month ago
no problems.

You mean those psychotic little furballs with murder mittens?  Not sure how to classify them as 'no problems'. Maybe you like being a scratching post...  hehe

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.35  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.8    one month ago

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.36  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.19    one month ago

Bad form to accuse a deceased 5 star general and predisent for treason./s

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.29    one month ago

It has caught on

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.38  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.37    one month ago

Where? Don't see it except for your commentary. And those who know #34 was Eisenhower.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.1.39  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.38    one month ago

Or for the rednecks #34 is Michael McDowell.

For me #34 is Rashard Mendenhall

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.40  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.38    one month ago

lol

some just gotta have the last word

lolol

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.1.41  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.9    one month ago

And how did that feeble attempt end?

Instead of noting the futility of the actions of those 6 Democratic losers,

team Trump got at least 82 Republicans to try the same thing eight years later.

Full List of Trump Fake Electors in Each State And the Charges Against Them - Newsweek

I'd ask where were his legal advisors and why did they let him do this,

but they were the ring leaders. Just saw Rudy's Arizona mug shot last night.

Potentially 97 people being charged or already charged with felonies for acting on behalf of the lame duck POTUS.

Talk about undermining the legitimacy of the institution.../s

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.37    one month ago

among non-cult members

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.43  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.38    one month ago

Quite popular outside the cult

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.44  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.37    one month ago
It has caught on

Not with Google.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.45  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.32    one month ago

You?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.46  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.43    one month ago

Keep using it,  

You know, if one person, just one person redefines #34 it's a start.  And if two people, two people here do it, in harmony, NT may think they're both on to something.   And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people signing into NT  and commenting on #34. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day signing in and talking about#34.  And friends they may thinks it's a movement.  And that's what it is, the #34 Tessylo Definition Anti-Massacre Movements.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3.1.47  Krishna  replied to  George @3.1.4    one month ago
a video of cute kittens I found on Tik-Tok.
Yes please.

I'll try my best . . .

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.1.48  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.46    one month ago

A classic.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1.49  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.9    one month ago

And there was 2000,2004, and the Georgia election before that.

democrats spent 20 years calling elections stolen and trying to overturn them before trump.  

Dukakis was the last Democratic presidential loser to not have his election challenged by democrats in congress 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.50  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.49    one month ago

'Democrats spent 20 years calling elections stolen and trying to overturn them before the former 'president''

Of course you have proof for that lie?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.51  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.16    one month ago

"Stephen Colbert"

Who?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.52  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.41    one month ago

Don't you understand. It is going to happen to democrats too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.53  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.52    one month ago

What for?  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.54  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.44    one month ago

I've only seen one person use it, and that is here on NT.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
3.1.55  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.48    one month ago

Unfortunately, some found it “taunting”.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
3.1.56  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.54    one month ago

It could be the beginning of a movement.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.57  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.50    one month ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.58  Texan1211  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.54    one month ago

I am sure some dumbass late night comedian/idiot thought it was clever.

It may well have been considered "gold" among those who get their "news" from them but thinking people know how ignorant it is.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.1.59  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.52    one month ago
Don't you understand.

I understand completely that you ignore election history in this country.

It is going to happen to democrats too.

It has happened to Democrats in the past and it will probably happen again.

The difference is in how the candidates handled it.

By 1876 – 11 years after the end of the Civil War – all the Confederate states had been readmitted to the Union, and Reconstruction was in full swing. The Republicans were strongest in the pro-Union areas of the North and African-American regions of the South, while Democratic support coalesced around southern whites and northern areas that had been less supportive of the Civil War. That year, Republicans nominated Ohio Governor Rutherford B. Hayes, and Democrats chose New York Governor Samuel Tilden.

But on Election Day, there was   widespread voter intimidation   against African-American Republican voters throughout the South. Three of those Southern states – Florida, Louisiana and South Carolina – had Republican-dominated election boards. In those three states, some initial results seemed to indicate Tilden victories. But due to widespread allegations of intimidation and fraud, the election boards   invalidated   enough votes to give the states – and their electoral votes – to Hayes. With the electoral votes from all three states, Hayes would win a 185-184 majority in the Electoral College.

Competing sets of election returns and electoral votes were sent to Congress to be counted in January 1877, so Congress voted to create a   bipartisan commission   of 15 members of Congress and Supreme Court justices to determine how to allocate the electors from the three disputed states. Seven commissioners were to be Republican, seven were to be Democrats, and there would be one independent, Justice David Davis of Illinois.

But in a  political scheme that backfired , Davis was chosen by Democrats in the Illinois state legislature to serve in the U.S. Senate (senators weren’t chosen by voters until 1913). They’d hoped to win his support on the electoral commission. Instead, Davis resigned from the commission and was replaced by Republican Justice Joseph Bradley, who proceeded to join an 8-7 Republican majority that awarded all the disputed electoral votes to Hayes.

Democrats decided not to argue with that final result due to the “ Compromise of 1877 ,” in which Republicans, in return for getting Hayes in the White House, agreed to an end to Reconstruction and military occupation of the South.

1888

In 1888, Democratic President Grover Cleveland of New York ran for reelection against former Indiana U.S. Senator Benjamin Harrison.

Back then, election ballots in most states were printed, distributed by political parties and cast publicly. Certain voters, known as “ floaters ,” were known to sell their votes to willing buyers.

Harrison had appointed an Indiana lawyer, William Wade Dudley, as treasurer of the Republican National Committee. Shortly before the election, Dudley sent a letter to Republican local leaders in Indiana with promised funds and instructions for how to divide receptive voters into “ blocks of five ” to receive bribes in exchange for voting the Republican ticket. The instructions outlined how each Republican activist would be responsible for five of these “floaters.”

Democrats got a copy of the letter and publicized it widely in the days leading up to the election. Harrison ended up winning Indiana by only about 2,000 votes but still would have won in the Electoral College without the state.

Cleveland actually won the  national popular vote  by almost 100,000 votes. But he lost his home state, New York, by about 1 percent of the vote, putting Harrison over the top in the Electoral College. Cleveland’s loss in New York may have also been related to  vote-buying schemes .

Cleveland did not contest the  Electoral College outcome  and won a rematch against Harrison four years later, becoming the only president to serve nonconsecutive terms of office. Meanwhile, the blocks-of-five scandal led to the nationwide adoption of secret ballots for voting.

1960

The  1960 election  pitted Republican Vice President Richard Nixon against Democratic U.S. Senator John F. Kennedy.

The popular vote was the closest of the 20th century, with Kennedy defeating Nixon  by only about 100,000 votes  – a less than 0.2 percent difference.

Because of that national spread – and because Kennedy officially defeated Nixon by less than 1 percent in five states (Hawaii, Illinois, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico) and less than 2 percent in Texas – many Republicans cried foul . They fixated on two places in particular – southern Texas and Chicago, where a political machine led by Mayor Richard Daley allegedly churned out just enough votes to give Kennedy the state of Illinois. If Nixon had won Texas and Illinois, he would have had an Electoral College majority.

While Republican-leaning newspapers proceeded to investigate and conclude that voter fraud had occurred in both states,  Nixon did not contest the results . Following the example of Cleveland in 1892, Nixon ran for president again in 1968 and won.

2000

In 2000, many states were still using the punch card ballot, a voting system created in the 1960s. Even though these ballots had a  long history  of machine malfunctions and missed votes, no one seemed to know or care – until all Americans suddenly realized that the outdated technology had created a problem in Florida.

Then, on Election Day, the national media discovered that a “ butterfly ballot ,” a punch card ballot with a design that violated Florida state law, had confused thousands of voters in Palm Beach County.

Many who had thought they were voting for Gore unknowingly voted for another candidate or voted for two candidates. (For example, Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan  received about 3,000 votes  from voters who had probably intended to vote for Gore.) Gore ended up losing the state to Bush by  537 votes  – and, in losing Florida, lost the election.

Over 60,000 ballots   in Florida, most of them on punch cards, had registered no vote for president on the punch card readers. But on many of the punch cards, the little pieces of paper that get punched out when someone votes – known as chads – were still hanging by one, two or three corners and had gone uncounted. Gore went to court to have those ballots counted by hand to try to determine voter intent, as allowed by state law. Bush fought Gore’s request in court. While Gore won in the Florida State Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court   ruled   at 10 p.m. on Dec. 12 that Congress had set a deadline of that date for states to choose electors, so there was no more time to count votes.

Gore  conceded  the next day.

Four Times the Results of a Presidential Election Were Contested | Smithsonian (smithsonianmag.com)

Those are facts and those people acted with respect for the tradition of gracious concession and the peaceful transfer of power.

2016

Hillary Clinton conceded within 24 hours.

2020

We are still waiting for a concession speech

01/06/2021

and a peaceful transfer of power.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

MILWAUKEE — Wisconsin Democrats overwhelmingly passed a pro-Palestinian resolution at their state party convention the same weekend four Israeli hostages  were rescued in a daring Gaza raid.

And the resolution didn’t even mention the Israelis killed or taken hostage in Hamas’ Oct. 7 terror attack.

The Sunday vote revealed a dark underbelly of a party that hosted a “Unity Fair” all weekend long.

Convention delegates approved by 136-91 a resolution demanding a cease-fire in Gaza and calling the Jewish state’s response to the massacre “genocide” and “an egregious violation of humanitarian law.”

Wisconsin Democrats pass pro-Palestinian resolution ignoring Hamas attack hours after Israeli hostage rescue (nypost.com)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    one month ago
MILWAUKEE — Wisconsin Democrats overwhelmingly passed a pro-Palestinian resolution at their state party convention the same weekend four Israeli hostages  were rescued in a daring Gaza raid.

Nothing like telling the world you're stupid.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1    one month ago

Are Americans really going to vote for them?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    one month ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.2    one month ago

Some actually went to college and were taught what to think.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    one month ago

Further proof one does not have to be intelligent to attend college.  Or that college makes one intelligent.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.4    one month ago

100% correct.

AOC is living proof.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
4.1.6  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    one month ago

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.1.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    one month ago

They may have gone to college but never did  get educated in real life or the real world.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.1.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Hallux @4.1.6    one month ago

Neither one belong in elected public office.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
4.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.8    one month ago

Of the 535 members 500 of them don't belong there and a certain 147 don't belong anywhere.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
5  Hallux    one month ago

As a card carrying member of Euro-Trash it behooves me to set the record straight, there is not a nation within the european community that was ever pure whatever.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @5    one month ago

there is not a nation within the european community that was ever pure whatever.

 yeah, but when they dumped their trash... >poof< ... america... /s
 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
5.1.1  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @5.1    one month ago

There were enough Scots in the mix to build just about everything ... I recommend 'How the Scots Invented the Modern World: The True Story of How Western Europe's Poorest Nation Created Our World & Everything in It' by Arthur Herman.

And then there is Montreal's Bowser and Blue comedy duo:

Twas the Scots Who Built This Country!
It was the Scots that built this country.
It should never be forgot
In each Canadian family,
Somewhere, there's a Scot.

When Sir John A. MacDonald looked out across this land,
What he saw before him, a Scot would understand.
Those first few encounters with the savages were hot.
It's First Nations, not 'savages.'
- I was referring to the Scots.

St Andrew's ball is lavish each year in Montreal.
All around the world the Scots are famous for their balls.
Wherever Scotsmen travelled,
There were two things that they brought.
Whiskey, and containers.
- The containers were the Scots.

'Twas the Scots that built this country.
By the Scots this land was built.
Not by pea soup or Yorkshire pudding
But by porridge, pipe and kilt

While politicians argue what is right and what is not.
They do it in the comfort of buildings made by Scots.
In every corporation, they've always saved a spot
For a portrait of their founder:
A penny-pinching, glowering, red-faced.
Whiskey-drinking, Presbyterian anhedonic,
Bagpipe-squeezing, caber-tossing, apoplectic.
Haggis-eating Scot!

'Twas the Scots that built this country.
With great big hairy knees.
We owe a debt of gratitude.
Two more whiskeys, please!
 
 

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