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Two precision strikes, a fiery hearing and a counterfeit rally.

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  4 months ago  •  83 comments

Two precision strikes, a fiery hearing and a counterfeit rally.
"The criminal and terrorist Zionist regime martyred our dear guest in our home and made us sad, but it also prepared a harsh punishment for itself," Khamenei said on his website.

Today we have three major stories and one minor political one dominating the news. Yours truly will try to cover these events with the facts.

First is the precision strikes Israel delivered yesterday on two enemies of humanity. Israel struck a Beirut suburb in retaliation for a deadly rocket attack that slaughtered 12 innocent people, including children. Israeli officials said the strike in Beirut killed a senior Hezbollah commander. The site of that attack is a densely populated neighborhood that is regarded as Hezbollah's headquarters.

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Ismail Haniyeh  Arash Khamooshi for The New York Times

In another strike (a missile strike) a senior Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, who was in Tehran for the inauguration of Iran’s new president was eliminated. Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said that Iran was duty bound to respond. The Biden administration has been consumed with trying to prevent a wider war. That is hard to do when all of the pressure for restraint is placed on Israel. I've been searching for news outlets who have given credit for these precision strikes which keep civilian casualties low. Thus far I haven't found many. All of this makes us long for the days when President Trump had placed effective sanctions on Iran and wasn't afraid to hold Iran accountable for all that happened.

Yesterday the acting Secret Service Director faced intense questioning from a joint Senate Committee. The exchange got very heated when Republicans cornered Acting Director Rowe:



Cruz has also previously blamed Secret Service’s efforts to diversify its ranks for distracting the agency from its core mission of protecting officials. During a podcast he released two weeks ago — after the Butler shooting — Cruz criticized the agency for its  efforts to have 30% of agents  be women by 2030.

Ted Cruz, Secret Service director fight over shooting | The Texas Tribune


Then there is the rioting in Venezuela. Venezuela has the largest oil deposit in the world, yet the people are living in poverty. One could argue that the origins of that country's economic problems are tied to Socialism.  Just 25 years ago, Hugo Chávez, helped pioneer a new form of Latin American Socialism based on oil receipts. In the beginning he was able to lift many out of poverty. It was easy then when Venezuela was prospering from an oil boom. It didn't take long for petroleum prices to drop, and Socialism couldn't function. Democracy was replaced with dictatorship and Maduro came to power.  In 2018, he barred major political parties and some opposition figures from running for office. The response from the US was sanctions and the Venezuelan economy was cooked. The rioting in Venezuela is related to the recent election which many called "fixed."  It is so hard to prove after it's over.

Finally, there is what I like to refer to as the Megan Thee Stallion rally. The performance by the rapper helped fill the 10,000 seats at what was supposed to be a Harris campaign rally.

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At the event Harris called on Donald Trump to commit to a Presidential Debate. Trump had committed to a second debate with the cognitively challenged Joe Biden, but the details of a debate with Harris have yet to be worked out. Meanwhile, the conservative organization CatholicVote.org , a "lay movement of committed Catholics" is now calling Vice President Kamala Harris one of the most anti-Catholic politicians ever. The organization has announced that it has launched a multimillion-dollar campaign in heavily Catholic swing states to try to defeat her bid for the Presidency.


In other news:

The Senate passed bipartisan legislation to protect minors online.

Kari Lake, who lost her 2022 campaign for Arizona governor after echoing Trump’s false election-fraud claims, won the Arizona GOP Senate primary. She’ll face Ruben Gallego, a House Democrat.

The Secret Service expected local snipers to cover the roof where Trump’s would-be assassin was positioned, the agency’s acting director said. A local official said his unit was not asked to do so.

Nearly 1,000 Native children died while attending boarding schools founded by the U.S. government, according to an Interior Department report that also detailed widespread sexual and physical abuse.

Meta agreed to pay the great state of Texas $1.4 billion to settle claims that the company had illegally collected facial recognition information on millions of users.

A Native American tribe once declared ‘extinct’ helps reintroduce salmon to the Columbia River .



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Good morning.

Congrats to Fox News:

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Fox News Channel had its most-watched July in history as Americans relied on the network for  information and analysis  during an unprecedented cycle of breaking news. 

The historic month featured ongoing concerns about President Biden’s mental fitness for office, the assassination attempt on former President Trump, JD Vance being named Trump’s running mate, the momentous Republican National Convention, Biden dropping out of the race and  Vice President Kamala Harris  emerging as the presumptive Democratic nominee. 

During that time, Fox News averaged 1.9 million total day viewers to finish as the only cable option to surpass the one-million viewer benchmark for the jam-packed month. MSNBC managed 721,000 average viewers to finish second, while CNN settled for 523,000 to finish third, followed by Hallmark Channel, ESPN, USA and HGTV.

Fox News Channel has best July ever during historic news cycle, topping MSNBC and CNN audiences combined | Fox News

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago
Fox News Channel had its most-watched July in history as Americans relied on the network for information and analysis
  • maga americans
  • misinformation
  • rwnj biased analysis

when does the next FOX $1+ billion dollar defamation trial start?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 months ago

More Democrats are watching Fox News during prime time than CNN, according to data from Per Nielsen MRI Fusion.

The data shows Fox News is watched by 29 percent of liberal prime-time viewers compared to CNN, which garners 25 percent of those viewers.

More Democrats watch Fox News during prime time than CNN: data (thehill.com)

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    4 months ago
More Democrats are watching Fox News during prime time

pretty rare for me, but I can appreciate the interest in the live TV darwin awards type of fascination...

meh, one mans hard hitting bullshit conservative media is a comedy of the absurd for others...

I'll admit to listening to rwnj radio. the hypocrisy of xtian nationalist charlie kirk, the neo-nazi fantasies of seb gorka, and the off chance to catch mark levin's next on air myocardial infarction...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    4 months ago

And nothing helps?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    4 months ago

it helps to dissipate any potential guilt I may feel in the future, if or when the rwnj sewage cleanup begins...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 months ago

So what do you watch..."Morning Joe", Joyless Reid, and the experts on "The View"?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 months ago

Rely on Faux 'news' for  information and analysis '  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Who does that?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.5    4 months ago

duh, I'm watching the olympics...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago
the conservative organization CatholicVote.org , a "lay movement of committed Catholics", is now calling Vice President Kamala Harris one of the most anti-Catholic politicians ever and announced that it has launched a multimillion-dollar campaign in heavily Catholic swing states to try to defeat her bid for the Presidency.

me thinks the mackerel snapper church being partisan might have something to do with their diminishing numbers...

Nearly 1,000 Native children died while attending boarding schools founded by the U.S. government, according to an Interior Department report that also detailed widespread sexual and physical abuse.

but no mackerel snapper cash available to compensate the victims of church sponsored centuries of abuse, pedophilia and sex scandals...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    4 months ago

You can step up to compensate victims.

Set the example for everyone.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    4 months ago

I'm not a mackerel snapper.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    4 months ago

But you are the one who brought the 1,000 victims into this.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    4 months ago

no, your article did. maybe you should read it again...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    4 months ago

Right there in Post 1.2.

You voiced your concern.

Set an example for everyone.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.5    4 months ago

... it's the 3rd sentence up from the bottom of your article.

I'm setting an anti-maga example.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.7  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    4 months ago

It’s many more than a thousand the total number will never be known. It is about time that the government the RCC and some other religious groups admitted their part in the genicide of native kids. But we known that there are not a lot of balls in the RCC they are badly outnumbered by pedophiles, they hide behind their the bishops,cardinalslawyers instead of fessing up to the   they inflicted on native kids and their parents. Seems that the lay Catholics are trying to defeat Harris, not surprising poring their money into issues that would keep their secrets secrets and not helping the tens of thousands of kid that were damaged or died in their care.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    4 months ago

These words came out of Jesse Watters mouth yesterday, on the air

“And to be a man and then vote for a woman just because she’s a woman is either childish — that person has mommy issues — or they’re just trying to be accepted by other women.” “And I heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman,” he added.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder what Watters would call a man who WON'T vote for a woman, just because she is a woman ?  A conservative?  Fox News viewer?  A Jesse Watters fan ? 

A lot of us hope the right wing keeps making these insane comments. It makes our work so much easier. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

The opposite of identity voting is merit voting.

 
 
 
George
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2.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago
call a man who WON'T vote for a woman, just because she is a woman ?

A misogynist, nothing more, anyone who votes for a person based on skin color is a racist. whether it is a historic first or not.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @2.2    4 months ago

Imagine political campaigns designed to smear opponents as bigots?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    4 months ago
Imagine political campaigns designed to smear opponents as bigots?

kind of like this statement?

Finally, there is what I like to refer to as the Megan Thee Stallion rally. The performance by the rapper helped fill the 10,000 seats at what was supposed to be a Harris campaign rally.

oh wait, sorry my bad, that comment is straight up racist...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.2.2    4 months ago
that comment is straight up racist...

How so?

She doesn't draw people of all races?  Is that what you are saying?

Gee, I wonder which comment is really racist.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.3    4 months ago

I see our friends on the left are on the ad hominem express again this morning.    You must have really hung them up this time.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @2.2.4    4 months ago
the ad hominem express

That is a great way to describe it.

Wait until the Harris Expose is unveiled.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @2.2.2    4 months ago

I heard Beyonce is in her corner.  That scares the shit out of them I'm sure.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

And saying that Kamala Harris is a DEI hire and got there by sleeping her way to the top.

Real men don't demean women that way.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    4 months ago

n strikes Israel delivered yesterday on two enemies of humanity

Tough day for the Squad!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    4 months ago

As for Harris having a rapper at her rally, I dont know much about Megan The Stallion, actually I dont know anything about her, but I doubt she has the moral baggage trumps rappers bring to rallies. At his fake reachout rally in the Bronx a couple months ago Trump was joined onstage by two rappers who are under indictment for various anti-social behavior related to gang activity.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 months ago
but I doubt she has the moral baggage trumps rappers bring to rallies.

Trump doesn't need them. He draws people.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 months ago

He draws people.

He draws something.  Calling them people is an insult to people.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 months ago

He obviously thought he needed them day , otherwise there wouldnt have been two rappers under indictment for gang activity onstage with him. 

The conservatives here need to come up with better answers. Or any answers for that matter.  One of your Fox News heros says that real men dont vote for women and your reply is  "The opposite of identity voting is merit voting."  You consider that to be a reply to Watters? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    4 months ago
You consider that to be a reply to Watters? 

That was a reply to your logic.

Waters says men shouldn't vote for someone just because she is a woman. You interpret that to mean men should vote against a woman simply because she is a woman.

Clearly, Waters is telling men to vote on issues and not identity.

The Waters piece was based on the absurd "white guys for Harris" concoction.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    4 months ago
when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman
J Watters

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    4 months ago

I need a link. There had to be context to that.

You left out the part where he said, "I heard scientists say.."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    4 months ago

only deranged people will be in solidarity with those comments

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    4 months ago

That was from the Five.  Now everyone can see it

Thank you.

Let our readers decide.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    4 months ago
or they’re just trying to be accepted by other women.” “And I heard the scientists say the other day

That is what I posted.    https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/64878/two-precision-strikes-a-fiery-hearing-and-a-counterfeit-rally#cm2155916        What are we going to do with you Vic ? 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
4.1.9  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 months ago
He draws people.

Well, we will get to see a good comparison between the ability of the two to draw crowds as Trump & Vance will host a rally Saturday in the same arena that Harris was in in Atlanta.

Trump's evening rally Saturday at the Georgia State University's Convocation Center in downtown Atlanta will offer a visceral contrast of how the two campaigns are competing for Georgia, one of the most heated political battlegrounds on the 2024 map. Donald Trump and JD Vance to campaign together in Atlanta on Saturday (ajc.com)

It won't be a perfect comparison as the arena has a seating capacity of 8000 and there have been reports of larger rallies hosted by Trump. For example the Butler PA rally reports have the crowd at 20,000.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    4 months ago
What are we going to do with you Vic ? 

Salute me.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    4 months ago

Your readers are unreliable. They decided Trump was fit for office in 2016, the biggest mistake Americans have ever made. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.11    4 months ago
Your readers are unreliable.

My readers?  They are our readers entitled to their own opinions.

They have learned what Jennifer Graham said the other day:

It’s been said that the hardest words to utter in the English language are “I am sorry,” “I need help” and “I was wrong.”

Lately, you can add to that: “Trump was right.”

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.13  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 months ago
Trump doesn't need them. He draws people.

... with people that are convicted felons, like at the last convention.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @4.1.13    4 months ago

That is a terrible thing to say about the American people.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.1    4 months ago

Yep, our friends on the left.    

Winning friends and influencing people like usual.    

I love the party of inclusion.

Good times!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    4 months ago

Haters gotta hate ….. I feel sorry for the poor bastards.

What a way to go through life.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.16    4 months ago

Isn't it incredible?

They don't care who the candidate is or what that person does to the country or American justice being subverted, just as long as Trump is stopped.

It is insane.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.1    4 months ago

Like shit draws flies?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.19  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    4 months ago
What are we going to do with you Vic ? 

Talk to China.    They can show you how to set up re-education camps to push that group-think thing you seem to favor.

Three hots and cot for Vic if he cooperates.    A battery and jumper cables to the sack if he doesn’t

Easy peasy but not Francis of Assisi

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.20  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.17    4 months ago
It is insane.

Yes it is.    

When Trump beat their chosen one in 2016, the one who couldn’t be beat, many appear to have had a complete mental break from reality.

Eight years later it appears to be accelerating for some.    Exponentially.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1.21  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.11    4 months ago

The biggest mistake Americans have ever made was putting the current vegetable and the hyena in the Oval Office and VP in 2020.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.21    4 months ago
vegetable and the hyena

Sounds like a good sitcom..............well it has been rather humorous to watch at times

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.1.23  George  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.21    4 months ago
the hyena

256

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5  Sean Treacy    4 months ago

We also  owe a debt of gratitude to Israel for doing our work for us in killing  Fouad Shukur, who was involved in the Beirut marine  bombing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

GOP ready to pounce on Vice President Harris's policy pivots.

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GOP ready to attack Kamala Harris over policy pivots (thehill.com)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    4 months ago

Her voters don't care. She's (or her staff is since she doesn't actually explain policy) disavowing her entire career before Biden dropped out (minus the racial identity stuff,  unlimited  abortion and support for men in girls bathrooms, the  only actual policies democrats have) to create a new character.

She's black. She's a woman. She a brat.  Vote for her!

That's all it takes for Democrats

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1    4 months ago

The Trump campaign must stay the course on outing her on her positions. Those positions aren't from her youth.

They are from just before the dumping of Biden.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    4 months ago

this is also a great example of how hard the media works for Harris.  Her “policy pivots” (as gentle a description as possible) aren’t the focus of the story, it’s the GOP ready to attack.  It’s immediately a partisan issue with republican attacks the frame the media wants readers to view it through.  

if Harris murders a child in cold blood in the middle of 5th ave The AP lede would be “republicans pounce over Harris handling of Child”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2    4 months ago

They haven't missed a beat. I saw a poll somewhere that showed people's opinion of Harris has increased since the rollout began.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    4 months ago

She really needs to explain the pivots and it needs to be accepted by Americans that she will be a moderate as it seems she it trying to do.  In other words she is going with the Biden playbook.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.3    4 months ago
In other words she is going with the Biden playbook.

The dishonesty is sickening. It seems that some Progressives in general elections refuse to tell the voters what they really want to do.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
6.3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.1    4 months ago

Hopefully the independents are paying attention

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.3.2    4 months ago

The first poll after Labor Day will give us a clear indication.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.4  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.3    4 months ago

turn the channel and see the latest trump vs Harris polls in swing statesjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.1    4 months ago

Seriously!  Just like Project 2025.  Right?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.3.6  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.5    4 months ago

lol another screwed up liberal Trump boogeyman ….  That said, thinking folk can’t abide by a Harris Project 2024 after living through a Biden 2020

FUBAR

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.4  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    4 months ago
policy pivots.

Worked for Biden.    Hopefully enough people were smart enough to notice and vote accordingly this time.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
7.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    4 months ago

Now for the context...

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @7.1    4 months ago

It still looks bad for democrats.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    4 months ago

Yet gop administrations always accumulate the most national debt and precipitate the start of the recessions...

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @7.1.2    4 months ago

No, it was democrats who caused the ever-expanding entitlement crisis.  That is the problem with federal budgets.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.1.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    4 months ago

That is false and flies into the face of the facts...

 
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
7.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.1.4    4 months ago
That is false and flies into the face of the facts...

Please share the facts you mention since you made the claim.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.5    4 months ago

Social spending is a liberals third rail.    

They won’t stop defending it until they run out of other peoples money.   Then they will blame that on someone else.   Only a simpleton can’t see it.    

A partisan simply refuses to see it and is just in deep denial.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @7.1.2    4 months ago

WE Democrats always have to clean up their messes.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @7.1.4    4 months ago

SSDD

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
7.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @7.1.2    4 months ago
Yet the gop accumulated the most debt and started the recessions...

The spike that you see in 1983 represents the beginning of the ever increasing growth in entitlement programs.  

Recessions occur when economic bubbles burst like the dot.com in 2000 tech bubble, disruptions to the supply chain like gas shortages in the 70's, and high interest rates from the fed to curb inflation.

Scoring them by presidential party is an indicator that the scorer knows little about the causes of either. 

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
7.1.11  bccrane  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.10    4 months ago
Scoring them by presidential party is an indicator that the scorer knows little about the causes of either. 

Especially since its congress and not the president that controls spending and if you look at the 7.1.2 graph and put in where the democrats controlled congress and when the republicans gained control, which is most pronounced in Clinton's second term when republicans took full control of spending and Clinton was forced kicking and screaming into a close to balance budget.  And it happened again to Obama.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1.12  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @7.1.2    4 months ago

Funny how your debt doesn't include Biden- who is setting all new types of records.

Wonder how they will record the debt for his illegal student debt forgiveness and renters moratorium?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.8    4 months ago

Perhaps in crazy liberal town but not in the real world.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8  Nerm_L    4 months ago

Nice bit of diplomacy.  Dear Leader Ali Khamenei, are you sure you want a wider war?  Netanyahu sends a message.  And it sounded a little like Trump.  Oddly enough, the ball is now in Kamala Harris' court.  Ain't it weird how these things work?

What has become markedly absent from our current political season has been the Paris Olympics.  Celebrations of national pride would be a buzz kill for the keffiyeh Democrats.  How many gold medals?  Democrats don't want to know since they've tied their horse to the weird wagon.  The magical 'They' tell us patriotism is so weird.  USA!  USA!  USA!  

 
 

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