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Taliban celebration.

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  3 months ago  •  46 comments

Taliban celebration.
“The Islamic Emirate eliminated internal differences and expanded the scope of unity and cooperation in the country,” Deputy Prime Minister Maulvi Abdul Kabir said in a speech urging Western countries to cooperate with the Taliban’s leadership.

After 3 years in power the Taliban in Afghanistan celebrated with a military parade featuring all the US military hardware that Joe Biden left behind.  In what was widely criticized as a chaotic operation that left 13 US troops dead, the Taliban inherited the failed state that the US had kept a lid on for more than two decades. The venue for the celebration was the massive Bagram air base, which was built and maintained by the US long ago.

Enjoy the video 

https://youtu.be/qghpnknMNoc?list=RDNSqghpnknMNoc


Here is what Kamala Harris said about her role in the decision:




Over $7 billion worth of U.S. military equipment was left behind in Afghanistan when the Biden administration withdrew U.S. forces in 2021. 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Good morning.

Today our thoughts are with a Ferguson Police officer in critical condition.

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Officer Travis Brown

Graphic new footage shows Ferguson Police Officer Travis Brown being  violently knocked to the ground  by an unruly protestor — a hit that left him still fighting for his life with severe brain injuries days later.

Brown, 36, was dispatched with his fellow officers Friday to arrest a number of troublemakers who were trying to rip down a police fence as a demonstration commemorating the 10-year anniversary of the shooting of black teen Michael Brown devolved into chaos.

New footage shows critically injured Ferguson Police Officer Travis Brown slammed to the ground by unruly protestor (nypost.com)

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago



Now Brown has a life-threatening brain injury.

Will Kamala Harris sponsor a fund to free the protestor?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 months ago

All to protest a dipshit kid assaulting an officer 10 years ago.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1    3 months ago

That has become their crusade.

Everything is justified for the cause.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 months ago

When did this incident happen?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    3 months ago

About a week ago.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3  devangelical    3 months ago
the Taliban inherited the failed state that the US had kept a lid on for more than two decades

gee, what was the name of that dipshit POTUS loser that arranged for the entire taliban hierarchy to be released from prison?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @3    3 months ago

Tell us all about it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @3    3 months ago
Will Kamala Harris sponsor a fund to free the protestor?

Gee who was the dipshit president that changed the withdrawal timeline causing the clusterfuck.  Oh that's right:

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 months ago
Press secretary Karine Jeane-Pierre stood momentarily looking embarrassed when asked to name Kamala Harris most important accomplishment.

She's not the only one that can't point out anything.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    3 months ago

Neither can Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

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She couldn't find anything.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    3 months ago

American troops were in Afghanistan for roughly 20 years. Even the Russians got out of there after ten. 

It was time, and everyone knew that it was likely that country would revert to Taliban control when we left.  The idea that all the blame for 20 years of ups and downs attempting to "westernize" those people falls on Biden is preposterous. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago

The criticism was never about ending the mission.

It was about the manner in which Biden withdrew

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 months ago

It was never going to end well. 

Did Vietnam end well in 1975?   

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Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    3 months ago

For the US, Vietnam ended in 1973.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    3 months ago
1975

On 3 April, President   Gerald Ford   announced " Operation Babylift ", which would evacuate about 2,000 orphans from the country. One of the   Lockheed C-5 Galaxy   planes involved in the operation   crashed , killing 155 passengers and crew and seriously reducing the morale of the American staff. : 157    In addition to the over 2,500 orphans evacuated by Babylift,   Operation New Life   resulted in the evacuation of over 110,000 Vietnamese refugees. The final evacuation was Operation Frequent Wind which resulted in 7,000 people being evacuated from Saigon by helicopter.

American administration plans for final evacuation

By this time the Ford administration had also begun planning a complete evacuation of the American presence. The planning was complicated by practical, legal, and strategic concerns. The administration was divided on how swift the evacuations should be.   The Pentagon   sought to evacuate as fast as possible, to avoid the risk of casualties or other accidents. The   U.S. Ambassador to South Vietnam ,   Graham Martin , was technically the field commander for any evacuation since evacuations are part of the purview of the State Department. Martin drew the ire of many in the Pentagon by wishing to keep the evacuation process as quiet and orderly as possible. His desire for this was to prevent total chaos and to deflect the real possibility of South Vietnamese turning against Americans and to keep all-out bloodshed from occurring. [ citation needed ]

Fall of Saigon - Wikiwand

There is a lot more but I kept it short. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    3 months ago

March 29, 1973 : Two months after the signing of the Vietnam peace agreement, the   last U.S. combat troops leave South Vietnam   as Hanoi frees many of the remaining American prisoners of war held in North Vietnam. America’s direct eight-year intervention in the   Vietnam War   was at an end.

In Saigon, some 7,000 U.S. Department of Defense civilian employees remained behind to aid South Vietnam in conducting what looked to be a fierce and ongoing war with communist North Vietnam.

U.S. troops withdraw from Vietnam | March 29, 1973 | HISTORY

All of which has nothing to do with Joe Biden running like a dog from Afghanistan.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    3 months ago

By the timeline set by the former 'president'

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    3 months ago

But not the way the former President would have withdrawn.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    3 months ago

LOL.  The decision to leave Afghanistan was made by Trump. 

Jan. 15 (2021) — “Today, U.S. force levels in Afghanistan have reached 2,500,” Miller, the acting defense secretary,   says   in a statement. “[T]his drawdown brings U.S. forces in the country to their lowest levels since 2001.” Afghanistan’s First Vice President Amrullah Saleh   tells the BBC   that the Trump administration made too many concessions to the Taliban. “I am telling [the United States] as a friend and as an ally that trusting the Taliban without putting in a verification mechanism is going to be a fatal mistake,” Saleh says, adding that Afghanistan leaders warned the U.S. that “violence will spike” as the 5,000 Taliban prisoners were released. “Violence has spiked,” he added.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.7    3 months ago

LOL. Trump wouldn't have done it that way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.8    3 months ago

5.1.7   is about Trump. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.9    3 months ago

Trump maintained Bagram AFB and would have until every American was out.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.10    3 months ago
“President Biden’s choices for how to execute a withdrawal from Afghanistan were severely constrained by conditions created by his predecessor,” the White House summary states, noting that when Biden entered office, “the Taliban were in the strongest military position that they had been in since 2001, controlling or contesting nearly half of the country.”

The report does fault overly optimistic intelligence community assessments about the Afghan army’s willingness to fight, and says Biden followed military commanders’ recommendations for the pacing of the drawdown of U.S. forces.

U.S. review of chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal blames Trump | PBS News
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.11    3 months ago

From Fact Check:

Two days after that interview,  we wrote  that Biden’s recollection was contradicted by reporting from the  New York Times ,   Wall Street Journal  and  Washington Post , all of which reported, citing unnamed sources, that early in Biden’s presidency, top military officials recommended Biden keep a small residual force in Afghanistan.

Now Biden’s claim is contradicted by firsthand sources — the generals themselves.

At the Sept. 28 hearing, Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe said that during a closed, classified hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee earlier in September, Gen. Austin “Scott” Miller, then the top commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, said that he recommended in January that the U.S. keep 2,500 troops in Afghanistan.

Inhofe  asked McKenzie  if he agreed with that recommendation.

“I won’t share my personal recommendation to the president, but I will give you my honest opinion, and my honest opinion and view shaped my recommendation,” McKenzie said. “I recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan. And I also recommended earlier in the fall of 2020 that we maintain 4,500 at that time. Those were my personal views. I also have a view that the withdrawal of those forces would lead inevitably to the collapse of the Afghan military forces and eventually the Afghan government.”

Generals Contradict Biden on Afghanistan Advice - FactCheck.org

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.11    3 months ago
In the agreement, the Taliban agreed “not to cooperate with or permit international terrorist groups or individuals to recruit, train, raise funds,” which it has now apparently violated by   hosting an al-Qaeda leader   that Biden ordered the assassination of last month. The deal did not require the Taliban to break from al-Qaeda, emphasized Lisa Curtis, a senior director on Trump’s National Security Council from 2017 to 2021. “It was a badly negotiated agreement that gave the Taliban far too many concessions and did not make enough demands of the Taliban,” she told me.
The Biden administration stuck with Khalilzad’s agreement, and the White House has defended that decision. Sullivan recently   argued   that Biden’s choice was “to go back to war with the Taliban ... or draw down, follow through on the agreement the previous administration made,” though Trump officials have   disputed   the extent to which the deal constricted Biden. Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan - FactCheck.org
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.13    3 months ago
though Trump officials have   disputed   the extent to which the deal constricted Biden.

Enough said.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.12    3 months ago

Trump negotiated a bad deal with the Taliban that increased their capability .  In the wake of that the Afghan military response to the Taliban disintegrated.  The US withdrew per the Trump negotiated agreement. 

Sure Biden might have executed it better, but he was following the advice of his military advisors under the circumstances. 

They are all to blame, certainly including Trump. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.15    3 months ago

He can't blame Trump, especially after he did away with every Trump policy.

He expected us to believe he was tied to what Trump said.

He left $7 Billion worth of military equipment there. He left Americans behind.

He got 13 US soldiers killed.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.7    3 months ago

You are correct.  The initial decision was made by Trump.  It was fucked up by Biden and he states as such.  See 3.2

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.16    3 months ago

"He" "He" "He."  Biden wasnt there. 

This complete withdrawal would have been chaotic no matter who the president was. The Afghan government and military completely collapsed. That is as much trump's fault as Bidens, if not more so.  Trump has his four years to do better in Afghanistan and didnt. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.18    3 months ago

Not even close. 

Biden wouldn't listen to the Generals. He wanted to show us that he was going to get out right away.

Trump never ran out of Afghanistan. Biden did.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.19    3 months ago

The Afghan military collapsed. That led to the "hasty" withdrawal. You make it sound like Biden wanted chaos. It is ludicrous.  Biden takes his share of the blame but blame extends back to Trumps agreement to put a deadline on it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.20    3 months ago

Who else can we blame?

It was Joe, face it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.20    3 months ago
The Afghan military collapsed. That led to the "hasty" withdrawal.

The failures of the Afghan military didn't cause the retreat (no other way to put it).  The plan was changed by Biden.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    3 months ago

Of course it would have been the same way as the former 'president' convicted felon and rapist.  

 
 
 
George
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5.1.24  George  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    3 months ago

That comment is a lie

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago

That was one of the least funny things I have ever seen.   Gutfeld doesnt even rise to the level of a Jimmy Kimmel wanna be, and the woman playing Harris for some unknown reason gave her a Jewish accent. 

I have no idea why you posted that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    3 months ago

I thought she did a good impression. One that would make Marilyn Michaels proud.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    3 months ago

It's like they have no actual sense of humor or it's very childish or, I can't really find the correct word, stupid for sure, juvenile, immature.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    3 months ago

WTF was that?  That's supposed to be funny?  I wonder why it was posted as well.

Comic relief?  As in we're laughing our asses off at this moronic attempt at comedy by Fux 'news'.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago

She is good and funny as hell

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Sounds just like her.............

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2    3 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz  reportedly turned down interview requests with The New York Times to address fresh criticisms he's facing over his response to the George Floyd riots in 2020.

Walz, who has served as governor since 2019, is accused of failing to act quickly enough as  rioters burned and looted  businesses for days before he sent in the National Guard. Over 1,500 businesses and buildings were burned, with property damage estimated at $500 million, according to the  Minneapolis Star Tribune .

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He doesn't want to talk about it?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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7.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    3 months ago

Just like he doesn't want to talk about the problems his policies caused during Covid. IMO Vance and Trump both need to stop their bullshit and start talking policy and be sure (no excuses, no games to delay) to get after all of this during the debates. The voters need to fully understand what the policies of both sides are before any voting starts (in something like 23 days).  damn..

 
 

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