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Joy fades to anger in a Fox hole.

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  14 hours ago  •  174 comments

Joy fades to anger in a Fox hole.
Oh, somewhere in this favoured land the sun is shining bright, The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light; And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout, But there is no joy in Mudville—mighty Casey has struck out.

Link to quote: Casey at the Bat by Ernest Lawrence Thayer - Famous poems, famous poets. - All Poetry


Last night the Harris campaign took their big gamble and sent their candidate off to Fox News to face real questioning from Bret Baier on America's biggest news forum. Harris, who was 17 minutes late, could not answer a single question. She sought to filibuster and eventually when Baier finally gave her an opening, she launched an angry tirade against Donald Trump. It was clear that her campaign had used Trump as the default button for her in case she got into trouble and she was in trouble with the very first question, which was how many people did she estimate the Biden administration let into the country.


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When Baier pressed her on why one of her campaign promises is to “turn the page” when she has been the sitting vice president for more than three years, Harris pivoted to talking about Trump.


“Well first of all, turning the page from the last decade in which we’ve been burdened with the kind of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed and implemented to divide our country and have Americans literally point fingers at each other,” she said.

Baier then reiterated that she has been vice president for three and a half years, questioning why people think the country is on the wrong track. 

“Come on, you and I both know what I’m talking about,” she said.

Baier responded, “What are you talking about?”

“Over the last decade it is clear to me … he is unfit to serve, he is unstable, he is dangerous and people are exhausted,” she said, referring to Trump.

5 takeaways from a contentious Bret Baier, Harris interview (msn.com)

I am sure the radical lefties thought that was a winning moment for Harris, and I am just as sure that the rest of America thought it was an epic failure. The proof of course, is that the Harris campaign team frantically tried to get Baier to wrap up their interview early.

'I'm talking like four people waving their hands like "it's got to stop,"' Baier described to his panel about how the  taped but unedited interview  ended after it aired at the top of his 6 pm show.

 'I had to dismount there at the end,' Baier shrugged. 

'There are so many things and maybe she should do more of these,' he added.

The moment Kamala Harris staff desperately intervened to end interview with Fox News' Bret Baier: 'It's gotta stop!' | Daily Mail Online

Based on this train wreck, I think it finally may be over for the radical left winning the White House next month.


In other news:

U.S. warplanes struck five underground weapons facilities in parts of Yemen controlled by the Houthis.

Israel bombed the densely populated outskirts of Beirut. It also struck a southern Lebanese city.

Columbia University has temporarily barred a vocal pro-Israel professor from campus, saying he harassed the school’s employees. He said the university had not done enough to crack down on pro-Palestinian protests.

The Supreme Court will temporarily let the E.P.A. limit emissions from coal and gas power plants. Separately, the court seemed poised to side against the E.P.A. in a case brought by San Francisco. The city argues that the rules about releasing human waste into the Pacific Ocean are vague and could be interpreted too strictly.

Tren de Aragua, a Venezuelan gang, has grown in infamy in the United States after a spree of heinous crimes that have grabbed national headlines and raised alarm among law enforcement and policymakers, who warn that Americans are in danger so long as the gang operates in the United States. 

The FBI finally revised its national crime data:

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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    14 hours ago

Good Morning.

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She got angrier as the interview went on, and it only went for about 25 minutes before her handlers waved their arms.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    13 hours ago

oh no, a convicted felon, indicted insurrectionist, fraud, and autocrat thinks I'm a -

  • marxist
  • communist
  • fascist
  • radical left lunatic
  • sick
  • evil
  • enemy within

bret baier and FOX's deception got caught and called out. I wonder when the orange coward will be interviewed on msnbc ...

maga likes hearing about unconstitutional revenge and retribution against their perceived enemies, so I'm really looking forward to watching the amped up maga devotees pay the price for their demigod's rhetoric when he calls them up to act on it after 11/5 ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1    13 hours ago

She looked like an angry fool.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    13 hours ago

she obviously knows the law and constitution better than a convicted felon and indicted traitor...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    13 hours ago

Then why was she against prosecuting people who entered the US illegally?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    12 hours ago

then why did her opponent detonate a bipartisan law to make that possible?

I'd also like to thank the maga militia in advance for solving the housing shortage and decreasing entitlement payments prior to her inauguration with at least 76 "days of love" ...

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.1.5  George  replied to  devangelical @1.1.4    12 hours ago

A private citizen detonated a law? is that the same law that allowed 2500 illegals a day before they considered closing the border? 2500 X 365 = 900,000 plus a year of caught illegals, not counting get aways. 

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
1.1.6  Thomas  replied to  George @1.1.5    12 hours ago
A private citizen detonated a law?

Traitorous scum want to know. But it's ok. They will just keep blabbing on about the millions of illegals blah blah blah and whatever other lies the Tangerine Tirade spews forth

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  George @1.1.5    12 hours ago

I won't feel any pity for those in law enforcement that disavow their oath to defend the constitution and make the choice to implement trump's unconstitutional dictates should he be elected ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    14 hours ago
'I had to dismount there at the end,' Baier shrugged. 

What the fuck was that supposed to mean?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    14 hours ago

He had to stop the interview.

What interpretation would you like to put on it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    14 hours ago

Did he "mount" her during that interview?    That is the only way "dismount" would make sense. 

Mounting a woman has a fairly specific meaning. 

Even if you leave the sexual connotation out of it, he was implying that his job was to ride her, and he enjoyed it. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    14 hours ago
What interpretation would you like to put on it?

That she couldn't answer a single question and was starting to look  and sound like the crazy cat lady from the Simpsons.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    14 hours ago

It means he knows Harris out maneuvers his gotcha questions.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    14 hours ago

There is only one meaning to what he said.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    14 hours ago

You really think avoiding questions is going to help her.

All those friendly interviews she did really were a disservice to her campaign.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    14 hours ago

Let me QUOTE Brett Baier for you Vic

“So, we were supposed to start at 5pm. This was the time they gave us. Originally, we were going to do 25 or 30 minutes. They came in and said, ‘Well, maybe 20.’ So, it’s already getting whittled down. Fox News host Bret Baier claims Harris was late as he gives post-mortem on ‘tough’ interview | The Independent

The interview was 26 minutes long. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    14 hours ago

Baier says that Harris wanted the interview to be 20 minutes.  That was before the interview started.  It turned out it was 26 minutes, so it went six minutes longer than she preferred BEFORE it started. 

Intelligent people can cut through all this Fox News/Brett Baier bullshit. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    14 hours ago

That means what it says.

Special Report is an hour show. They could have had more if they wanted.

They ended it with arms waiving...

"no mas!"


 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    14 hours ago

She didn't "out maneuver" a damn thing.  She deflected to the normal leftist "but Trruuummmmppppp!" deflection and made the usual word salad talking points she's known for.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.7    14 hours ago
so it went six minutes longer than she preferred BEFORE it started. 

All of it was her filibustering and her angry rant about Trump.

Rational people aren't going to like it.

They took a shot, and they came up with snake eyes.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.11  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    13 hours ago
"It means he knows Harris out maneuvers his gotcha questions."

No, they were honest questions which she refused to answer. Then she deflected/defaulted to Trump. That's the pattern her handlers have chosen. The results have been a disaster for her because the American people aren't buying it.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
2.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2    13 hours ago
What the fuck was that supposed to mean? 

He was riding her like a rented mule.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  George @2.2    13 hours ago

Only on Fox News would his job have been to "ride her"

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
2.2.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    13 hours ago

Or he was trying to make her as comfortable as possible. a familiar setting.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  George @2.2.2    12 hours ago

Oh please.  If it had been Trump they would have planned for the former POTUS to be 90 minutes late and treated him with reverence and deference.

Going forward Brett's reputation will no longer be fair and balanced.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.3    12 hours ago
Going forward Brett's reputation will no longer be fair and balanced.

it never was, he's all the way down the maga rabbit hole ...

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.3    12 hours ago
Going forward Brett's reputation will no longer be fair and balanced

Exactly where was he not fair and balanced with Harris?

Is it because he did not ask questions like "Do you plan on getting a puppy if you win the White House?"

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.6  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @2.2.5    12 hours ago

what a willfully ignorant comment ...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.3    10 hours ago
"Going forward Brett's reputation will no longer be fair and balanced."

So you admit he always been fair and balanced. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @2.2.6    10 hours ago

weak sauce retort.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.9  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.7    10 hours ago
So you admit he always been fair and balanced.

weak sauce retort ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.2.10  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.7    6 hours ago
So you admit he always been fair and balanced. 

I admit that Fox pushes that narrative and I had no reason to believe otherwise until this "interview".

It went pretty much as expected.

I think her frustration culminated in today's declaration that A future Harris Administration will not be an extension of the Biden Administration.

And it's about time she said so.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    14 hours ago

Baier has said the interview was supposed to be 20 to 25 minutes long.  It was 26 minutes. 

The idea that Harris "handlers" panicked is pure Fox propaganda. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    14 hours ago
The idea that Harris "handlers" panicked is pure Fox propaganda. 

Actually, it is FACT.

The moment Kamala Harris staff desperately intervened to end interview with Fox News' Bret Baier: 'It's gotta stop!' | Daily Mail Online

You see John, that interview barely got through the first few segments which Kamala filibustered. She could have said go on with your questions, but clearly the Harris team had had enough.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    14 hours ago

Nonsense. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    14 hours ago

You have the link.  It is a fact.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    14 hours ago

I read the link, the only thing in there about her "staff" is the headline itself. 

The interview went six minutes longer than what Baier himself says Harris team agreed to. 

Originally, we were going to do 25 or 30 minutes. They came in and said, ‘Well, maybe 20.’
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    14 hours ago

It is a fact.  Those weren't Fox technicians waiving to cut it off, those were Harris campaign staffers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    13 hours ago

By Baiers own words, before the interview started Harris agreed to 20 minutes.    The interview ended up being 26 minutes. What the hell are you bitching about? 

Look at the last couple minutes of the interview.  Does Harris look rattled?  No. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    13 hours ago
Does Harris look rattled?

Take a look at the picture in Post 1.

I'll let our readers decide if she became unhinged.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    13 hours ago

Glad you brought that up. She got angry when Baier played an edited clip from Trump earlier in the day which was edited to make him look more sane. 

In fact, what Baier and Fox did was very dishonest. That is why she got angry. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    13 hours ago
She got angry when Baier played an edited clip from Trump earlier in the day which was edited to make him look more sane. 

That was the opening that Baier gave her.  I never would have brought Trump into the conversation. He needed to stick to the questions that he mined from X the days prior to the interview, most of which were on the border and the economy.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    10 hours ago

So why were Harris' handlers so anxious to get her out of there?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    10 hours ago

she should have walked after calling out bret's FOX edited trump clip ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    10 hours ago

What are you talking about? The interview was six minutes longer than Harris team suggested before it started. . 

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
3.2.3  goose is back  replied to  devangelical @3.2.1    6 hours ago
bret's FOX edited trump clip

Maybe they should have asked her about the 60 minutes edit while we're deflecting. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.4  devangelical  replied to  goose is back @3.2.3    3 hours ago
while we're deflecting

... you sure are. I'm on topic ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    14 hours ago
Based on this train wreck, I think it finally may be over for the radical left winning the White House next month.

Its too early in the morning for your comedy stylings Vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    14 hours ago

Unless they pull a dirty trick in the next few weeks, she is cooked.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    13 hours ago

Unless they pull a dirty trick in the next few weeks, she is cooked.

If trump wins, the election was rigged, it's that simple. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    12 hours ago

Trump was doing his penance on Univision yesterday in what should have been a warm cozy town hall with supportive Hispanic Republican voters.

It was much worse than the Harris inquisition on Fox.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    12 hours ago

We should give them a taste of their own medicine, although I dont expect that to happen. The Democrats want what is best for the country. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.2    12 hours ago
It was much worse than the Harris inquisition on Fox.

Maybe you should do an article on that. Mine is on the Harris sit down with Bret Baier last night.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    12 hours ago

Are the democrats going to accept a Trump win?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    12 hours ago

If he wins I will accept that he won. [removed][]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    12 hours ago
The Democrats want what is best for the country. 

As Stalin told the Ukrainian farmers "You will give up your lands to collectivization!"

It was what was best for Russia, I guess.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    12 hours ago

You just bop all over the place looking for a point you can win. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    12 hours ago

You said democrats do what they think is best for the country.

I believe I made the proper analogy.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    10 hours ago
"The Democrats want what is best for the country." 

No they don't, only what's best of the hard left progressive party pretending to be patriots.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    10 hours ago
Unless they pull a dirty trick in the next few weeks

jack smith's unsealed indictment facts are going out to the media next week ...

the rest of trump's post election life will be spent in jail cells and court rooms ...

maybe he can pay a Dr to write him a note for brain spurs ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.10    6 hours ago

You should know after all of these years that no one ever gets what they want,

too many checks and balances or

Libertarians that can filibuster stuff to a standstill.

Progress can only happen through compromise 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    14 hours ago

Baier asked Harris how many migrants had been released into the country under the Biden-Harris administration, how she would reduce the count and why some of her stances had shifted since her 2019 presidential campaign.

Does anyone understand her response to any of that?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6  Jeremy Retired in NC    14 hours ago

A lot of the answers she gave was like reading leftist comments here on NT - "but Trruuummmmppppp!".  And what weren't deflections to Trump were false and fictitious answers at best.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    14 hours ago

think it finally may be over for the radical left winning the White House next month.

 Between Democratic  ballot harvesting and the church of progressives, it's still a coin flip.  

They just don't care she's an empty suit, the glass of water Pelosi talks about. . 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    14 hours ago
They just don't care she's an empty suit,

She as much as admitted that herself when she went into the Trump is unfit routine.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    13 hours ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    13 hours ago
a bad acid trip. 

I wouldn't know.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.3  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    13 hours ago
like a bad acid trip

I don't think LSD works on those already experiencing hallucinations and delusions ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    13 hours ago

BAIER: “In 2019, you supported allowing illegals to apply for drivers' licenses, qualify for free tuition at universities, and get free healthcare. Do you still support those things?”

KAMALA: “That was five years ago”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    13 hours ago

Question of the day is a multiple choice:

What was the worst part of that interview?

A) Harris’ answers about the border?

B) Her refusal to condemn taxpayer funded sex surgery for illegals?

C) Covering up Biden’s mental decline?

D) Harris showing up late and then her staff frantically ending the interview?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    13 hours ago
What was the worst part of that interview?

Baier playing a clip of trump from earlier in the day edited to make him look less unhinged than he really is. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1    13 hours ago

Sorry, that wasn't one of the choices.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    13 hours ago

But it is a very valid answer because the tape eliminated the claim That Trump actually did make.

No ice cream for you or Fox Entertainment.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.2    13 hours ago

it would have been the 1st time ignorant FOX viewers had seen their fascist hero say that bullshit ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.2    13 hours ago
But it is a very valid answer because the tape eliminated the claim That Trump actually did make.

The tape was of a completely different speech than the one that Harris was talking about. The question is why the interviewer allowed the candidate to take him there.


No ice cream for you or Fox Entertainment.

Special Report is where most people go for news.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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9.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @9.1.3    13 hours ago

I know.  How dare he ask her actual questions and expect actual answers.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    13 hours ago
The tape was of a completely different speech than the one that Harris was talking about.

Nope. He has made the "enemy within" comments a few times in the past 5 or 6 days, including yesterday. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    13 hours ago

Most people have Fox Entertainment freely included in the most popular cable tv bundles

while the real news and opinion shows are in higher tiers that subscribers have to pay extra for.

That is an unfortunate situation as far as having an informed public.

Access to propaganda should be equal.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.6    13 hours ago
Nope

It was and who cares. 

He let her get in her angry rant and now she owns it.

Do you really think that performance helped her?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.7    13 hours ago
Most people have Fox Entertainment

A good deal of cable news is entertainment.

Special Report is strictly NEWS.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.9    12 hours ago

If it's on Fox Entertainment Corp, it's tainted by too many out of court settlements for defamation, libel and sexual harassment.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    12 hours ago
Special Report is where most people go for news.

Actually no. The audience for the networks nightly news shows is about six times larger than Baiers. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.10    12 hours ago

I knew you were going there, but SPECIAL REPORT is clean. It is a NEWS show.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.11    12 hours ago

Is this another one of your constructs where you take all the other news shows everywhere and combine their audiences and put them up against Bret Baier's?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.13    12 hours ago

Why don't you take a half an hour and watch the former President on Univision yesterday

then try to defend that nonsense against Harris's performance.

Frankly, I'd rather Putin see angry Harris.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.14    12 hours ago
then try to defend that nonsense

They would defend Trump even if he started speaking entirely in pig latin. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.13    12 hours ago

You said most people get their news from Brett Baiers show.  That is not close to being true. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.14    12 hours ago
Why don't you take a half an hour and watch the former President on Univision yesterday

I already have. The problem is that it has nothing to do with Kamala Harris failing to do a simple interview with Bret Baier.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.16    12 hours ago

It is the biggest news show.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.19  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.18    12 hours ago
It is the biggest news show.

on a network that owes 3/4 of a billion dollar settlement for lying to the american public, and looking at another...

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
9.1.20  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    12 hours ago

A whole bunch of times he said it. You can watch starting at 3:00 minutes.It makes no difference which speech, he has said it repeatedly. Trump is traitor to his oath of office and the Constitution. If one supports Trump, one is supporting a traitor and those who do are little better than Traitors themselves.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.18    12 hours ago

David Muir's nightly news on ABC has more than double Baiers audience. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.22  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.21    11 hours ago

bret will be doing irregularity commercials next year just to feed his family ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    13 hours ago

A, B, and C.

D was expected the moment she went off the rails (with the 1st question).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2    13 hours ago

I knew I should have included "All of the above."

How can anybody listening to that interview vote for her to be president of the United States?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    13 hours ago
How can anybody listening to that interview vote for her to be president of the United States?

Those are the people who do stupid stuff like vote for her because she's not Trump.  

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
9.2.3  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    13 hours ago
How can anybody listening to that interview vote for her to be president of the United States?

Because she's not a felon, self avowed sexual predator and convicted fraudster.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    13 hours ago

Yesterday Trump claimed he stopped John Deere from moving 600 jobs to Mexico and doubled down on illegal immigrants in Springfield OH eating cats and dogs.

John Deere announced that that claim was false.  The Mayor of Springfield expressed his exasperation with the former Presidents lies and the current Republican candidate for the Senate, an out of state car dealer "verifying" that the former Presidents claims are true.

How can anybody listening to that interview vote for Trump to be president of the United States?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @9.2.3    13 hours ago

Based on the time-honored question of whether you are better off now than you were 4 years ago, character goes right out the window.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.2.4    13 hours ago
How can anybody listening to that interview vote for Trump to be president of the United States?

Simple: Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.6    13 hours ago

Fitness for office is the floor for a presidential candidate, not the ceiling.  When Gen. McChrystal endorsed Harris a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned character as his deciding factor. Character is destiny. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2.2    13 hours ago
 vote for her because she's not Trump.  

Now you are making sense. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.7    13 hours ago

And what kind of character can we take from someone who talks over the interviewer while refusing to answer questions?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
9.2.10  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.6    13 hours ago
Simple: Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

Yes

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2.2    13 hours ago

Those are the dependable votes the democrats have.

The democrat party may have lost others. That is why Harris was forced to do that interview last night. I think the Harris campaign will regret putting her there,

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @9.2.10    13 hours ago

I'm sure.

Not everyone is immune from higher prices and rampant crime.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
9.2.13  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.12    13 hours ago
Not everyone is immune from higher prices and rampant crime.

Crime is down, inflation is down, wages are up.

Let me clarify, as I have many times, these are not attributes that any one admin has much control over. They are effects of market forces which have little to do with politics.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @9.2.13    12 hours ago
Crime is down

No. That is why I inserted the adjusted FBI crime figures.


inflation is down

Down from the high that Biden created with his reckless spending. Trump left us with barely any inflation.


wages are up.

Enough to counter inflation? Can you show us that?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.15  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    12 hours ago
How can anybody listening to that interview vote for her to be president of the United States?

People who watched Trump drown on Univision yesterday feel the same way today,

especially the Republican Hispanics who invited him aboard.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.2.16  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.5    12 hours ago
the time-honored question of whether you are better off now than you were 4 years ago

4 years ago we were in the middle of a pandemic incompetently mismanaged by a moron ...

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
9.2.17  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.14    12 hours ago
That is why I inserted the adjusted FBI crime figures.

For 2 and 3 years ago? Do better.

Down from the high that Biden created with his reckless spending. Trump left us with barely any inflation.

Your alternate facts don't hold up in the light of day. Neither Trump nor Biden created the inflation from a world wide pandemic. Or maybe both if you want to factor in the stimulus pay outs people got during the pandemic that a bi-partisan Congress voted for and both Presidents signed. Also here's a hint - Joe's not on the ballot anymore...

Enough to counter inflation? Can you show us that?

Yes.

Average hourly wage growth has exceeded inflation for 12 straight months, according to  new Bureau of Labor Statistics data  released this morning. This real (or inflation-adjusted) wage growth is a key indicator of how well the average worker’s wage can improve their standard of living. As inflation continues to normalize, I’m optimistic more workers will experience real gains in their purchasing power.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @9.2.16    12 hours ago

Just this morning, the New York Times gave credit to President Trump for the rapid development of the vaccine. 

They managed to say he deserved "some" of the credit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @9.2.15    12 hours ago

If you really believe that I'll look forward to hearing from you on the day/days after the election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @9.2.4    12 hours ago

Trump supporters dont care if he lies. And that is not a sweeping generalization, if you believe his polling numbers. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @9.2.17    12 hours ago
For 2 and 3 years ago?

Yes, the Biden years. That is when the FBI wasn't getting crime stats from major cities (and still isn't) and somehow missed 1,699 Murders in 2022, showing crime increased by 4.5% in 2022 instead of dropping 2.1 %.


Neither Trump nor Biden creates the inflation from a world wide pandemic.

Inflation is caused by government spending/printing of money. Economics 1.0


Yes.

Here is the other side of that:

While price growth for some common purchases is slowing or even reversing, there are few parts of the economy where prices are outright lower today than pre-pandemic. And while average pay gains have narrowly outpaced inflation, that’s not the case for every household.

Inflation vs. wages: How rising prices stack up against growing pay (nbcnews.com)

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.2.22  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.18    12 hours ago
New York Times gave credit to President Trump for the rapid development of the vaccine. They managed to say he deserved "some" of the credit.

... after agent orange ignored the significance of the pandemic for the first 6 months while vaccine development had already been started from the beginning of the threat ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.23  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.6    12 hours ago

Yes.  Absolutely by at least a factor of three.

Although I would argue that that is a stupid measurement to make this particular decision.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.24  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @9.2.22    12 hours ago

And what does the pandemic have to do with Kamala's failed interview?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.2.25  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.24    12 hours ago

you're the one that asked if I was better off 4 years ago. 4 years ago was the pandemic ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @9.2.25    12 hours ago
you're the one that asked if I was better off 4 years ago.

It was a rhetorical question. Not for you personally.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
9.2.27  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.6    12 hours ago
Simple: Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

Fuck, yes!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.2.28  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.26    12 hours ago

4 years ago the closest hospital parking lot to me was filled with refrigerated trailers full of texans ... 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.29  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.18    11 hours ago

True. A President can encourage science and development or discourage it.

Most of what happened would have happened regardless of who was in the WH.

Trump did not discourage it so he deserves "some" of the credit.

His claims about cutting red tape or speeding up the process are dubious at best.

More likely his normal exaggerations.  Low hanging fruit.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.30  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.19    11 hours ago

The way certain states are behaving, we may not have a clear answer for many days.

Regardless, I will be here no matter which one prevails.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.31  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.20    11 hours ago
Trump supporters don't care if he lies.

Actually, I think they are amused and admire what they consider to be hutzpah.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2.32  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.8    11 hours ago

No.  I'm not that stupid.  Especially after watching Harris implode during the interview.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2.33  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.6    11 hours ago
Simple: Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

Not by a long shot.  Inflation is still up, illegals all over like roaches, crime is up, 2 new conflicts we are involved in, sending BILLIONS to other countries while US citizens are struggling... 

Only a fool would think we are better off.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
9.2.34  George  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2.33    10 hours ago
2 new conflicts we are involved in

And now Biden is using B2's to bomb Yemen. Why?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.2.35  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.21    10 hours ago
when the FBI wasn't getting crime stats from major cities

I think it's interesting (hilarious) that someone so concerned about crime is supporting a convicted felon facing more criminal indictments for president ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2.36  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @9.2.35    10 hours ago

They didn't screw with the numbers to pathetically make a failure look good.  

You're hung up on this felon thing like it means something.  There is nothing prohibiting him from running office.  Just like there is nothng that kept a racist like Biden from running.

Also it shows you have not been paying attention to how the appeals are going.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2.36    10 hours ago

Now we have excuse making for a convicted felon who wants to be POTUS.  We are fallen. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
9.2.38  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.37    9 hours ago

No excuses.  Just pointing out the obvious to the oblivious.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.2.39  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.6    6 hours ago
Simple: Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

Without a doubt a resounding YES! Four years ago, unemployment was at record highs, we had a President lying about a deadly pandemic putting Americans lives at risk all for his ego, had already been impeached by congress, inspired a violent insurrection attempt and was an unmitigated embarrassment to any patriotic American with more than half a brain.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.40  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.14    6 hours ago
Down from the high that Biden created with his reckless spending. Trump left us with barely any inflation.

What is wrong with your understanding of propaganda?

Covid brought the economy to a standstill and the fed reduced interest rates to nothing.

The Supply chain backlog created by Covid emptied stores of most goods.

Zero growth means zero inflation, that is a BAD THING.

While the idea of price stability and no change in prices may seem appealing, a situation of 0 inflation can have several negative consequences for the economy and individuals.

One of the primary concerns with 0 inflation is the risk of deflation. Deflation occurs when prices continue to decline over time, leading to a decrease in the overall level of economic activity. When consumers expect prices to fall in the future, they delay purchases, causing a decrease in demand. This, in turn, limits production and can lead to business closures and job losses. Deflationary pressures can create a vicious cycle of reduced spending, lower production, and economic contraction.

Furthermore, 0 inflation can hinder wage growth. Inflation provides an incentive for employers to increase wages to keep up with rising prices. When inflation is absent, employers may be less motivated to raise wages, resulting in stagnant or even declining real wages for workers. This can lead to a decrease in the purchasing power of individuals, impacting their quality of life and ability to afford essential goods and services.

Inflation also allows for adjustments in the economy’s relative prices. When certain industries experience increased costs of production, they can pass on these costs to consumers through higher prices. This redistribution of resources ensures that industries with higher demand and productivity are rewarded while those with lower efficiency face pressure to improve. Without inflation, this necessary adjustment mechanism is hindered, potentially leading to inefficient allocation of resources and a less dynamic economy.

Moreover, 0 inflation can negatively impact investments and financial markets. In a low or zero inflation environment, the real return on investments, such as bonds or savings accounts, can be significantly reduced. This discourages individuals from saving and investing, and can lead to a preference for non-productive assets like cash. This lack of productive investment can impede economic growth and limit opportunities for wealth creation.

Lastly, when inflation is absent, central banks have limited tools to stimulate the economy during periods of economic downturn. In normal times, central banks lower interest rates to encourage borrowing and spending, boosting economic activity. However, when interest rates reach zero, known as the zero lower bound, this policy tool becomes ineffective, reducing the ability to combat recessions or promote economic recovery.

Overall, while 0 inflation may seem desirable on the surface, it can have significant negative effects on the economy, including the risk of deflation, stagnant wages, inefficient resource allocation, reduced investment opportunities, and limited monetary policy effectiveness. It is important for policymakers to aim for an optimal level of inflation to maintain a healthy and vibrant economy.

  Why Is 0 Inflation Bad? | LiveWell

 

When the supply chain started to relax inflation started creeping back,

then it raced to over 9%

BEFORE the INFLATION REDUCTION ACT passed.

By the time the IRA passed inflation was already down to 7%. kept dropping partially,

we are assuming, because of the IRA.

Inflation is currently at 2.4%,  almost perfect for a thriving economy, robust stock market and real-estate market.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.2.41  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @9.2.40    6 hours ago
What is wrong with your understanding of propaganda?

He knows enough to understand simply calling a bill the inflation reduction act, doesn't mean it lowers inflation.  Calling a bill that increases spending and the deficit which actually  creates inflationary pressures is the "Inflation Reduction Act" is a prime example of propaganda. 

By the time the IRA passed inflation was already down to 7%. kept dropping partially, we are assuming, because of the IRA.

Lol. I guess it shows why they called it the inflation reduction act, even though that wasn't the point of it  (it was the rebranded Build Back Better Act) and even Biden admits it had nothing to do with lowering inflation. Inflation was more important than climate change in 2022 so they just slapped a new name on it. I guess that's why they give bills stupid labels, some people believe them. 

lmost perfect for a thriving economy, robust stock market and real-estate market.

It's 25% higher than targeted. That's not "almost perfect" in any world. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.2.42  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2.33    5 hours ago
Inflation is still up
In September 2020, the inflation rate in the United States was as follows:  
  • Consumer Price Index (CPI) The CPI for all urban consumers was 2.4% over the previous 12 months

As of October 10, 2024, the current inflation rate in the United States is  2.4%

illegals all over like roaches

Dehumanizing fear mongering. Disgusting.

crime is up

Preliminary data from 88 cities showed that violent crime has continued to decline considerably in 2024, including a  16.9% decline in murder, a 7.5% decrease in rape, a 3.4% decrease in aggravated assault, and a 5.2% decline in robbery

sending BILLIONS to other countries while US citizens are struggling...

Helping to defend our allies against an attack from a murdering genocidal authoritarian criminal is the least we could do. Anyone who thinks otherwise should be ashamed of themselves, but I guess some vile unpatriotic traitors simply have no shame.

9b2_717trump1-3-800x430.jpg?w=900

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.2.43  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2.41    3 hours ago
It's 25% higher than targeted. That's not "almost perfect" in any world. 

It's 2.4% currently and the public target is 2.0%,  better check that calculator.

Statistics, damned statisics and lies?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  author  Vic Eldred    13 hours ago

We now hear the lament that Harris agreed to 20 minutes.

If Harris can only do 20 minutes with Bret Baier, how is she going to fare against Xi, Putin and Raisi?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
10.1  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    12 hours ago

I didn't know Xi, Putin and Raisi did interview tv shows.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @10.1    12 hours ago

She would have to deal with them as president. What will she do then?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.1    12 hours ago
She would have to deal with them as president. What will she do then?

I think who the coward is in the race for POTUS has already been identified by the majority of americans ...

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
10.1.3  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.1    12 hours ago

Not debate them on tv.

Diplomacy is done between the State Department and Foreign Service Officers. You should already know this.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @10.1.3    12 hours ago
Not debate them on tv.

If one can't answer simple questions in the confines of the state of PA, one can hardly stand up to hostile enemies armed with nuclear weapons.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.4    12 hours ago
one can hardly stand up to hostile enemies armed with nuclear weapons

trump is a coward and dealing with russian collaborators will be the frosting on the anti-democratic maga domestic terrorist cake ...

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
10.1.6  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.4    12 hours ago

I suppose she could score some points with you if, rather than stand up to them. she told the world how much she loves and admires them? She could give them intelligence given to us by our allies too? 

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
10.1.7  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.4    12 hours ago
If one can't answer simple questions in the confines of the state of PA, one can hardly stand up to hostile enemies armed with nuclear weapons.

Ask Trump if he won in 2020.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Thomas @10.1.7    11 hours ago
Ask Trump if he won in 2020

I'm waiting for that next flip/flop here ...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
10.1.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @10.1.8    11 hours ago

You must have the patience of Job, with all the waiting that you do.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.10  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.9    11 hours ago

meh, the last flip/flop took 3.5 years ...

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
10.2  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    12 hours ago

They won't bother talking to her, they will just do what they want. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  charger 383 @10.2    12 hours ago

Like they did with Biden?

Then the American voters have a clear choice.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.2.1    12 hours ago
Then the American voters have a clear choice.

convicted felon and indicted traitor versus a seasoned prosecuting attorney VP with 4 years of on the job training.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
10.2.3  George  replied to  devangelical @10.2.2    11 hours ago
VP with 4 years of on the job training.

The first admission i have seen that Biden is so incompetent that Harris has been acting president for the last 4 years. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.2.4  devangelical  replied to  George @10.2.3    11 hours ago
Biden is so incompetent that Harris has been acting president

I'd be careful dancing around that old and incoherent bonfire now ...

don't care to address the convicted felon and indicted traitor part, huh?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @10.2.4    10 hours ago
"don't care to address the convicted felon and indicted traitor part, huh?"

Even if that were true, no normal Americans give a shit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @10.2.5    10 hours ago

According to you, normal Americans dont care if their president is a traitor. Fascinating take. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @10.2.5    10 hours ago
no normal Americans give a shit

... what happens to criminal/traitor trump after he's held accountable.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
10.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.6    9 hours ago
their president is a traitor

Still waiting for the proof of that.  Just remember, hurt feelings aren't proof.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
11  George    13 hours ago

So i wonder if all the posters here who belittled the posters who questioned the FBI stats on violent crimes will get an apology?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @11    13 hours ago

Good question.

That was quite a reversal.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
11.1.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1    11 hours ago

That was a 6.3 point swing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12  author  Vic Eldred    13 hours ago

BAIER: Why are Americans saying this country is on the wrong track? You've been in office for 3.5 years.

HARRIS: And, Donald Trump has been running for office... you and I both know what I am talking about.

BAIER: I actually don't... what are you talking about?

HARRIS: What I'm talking about is... over the last decade.. people have become - but, listen - over the last decade, it's clear to me...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
13  Kavika     12 hours ago

Harris did fine, the MAGA are deaf dumb and blind to anything that isn’t Trump’s incoherent babbling.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @13    12 hours ago
Harris did fine,

If Harris did fine, why the endless need to always invoke Trump?

I'm going to end this with an old painting that scientists are now examining because some believe that people in art museums spend the most time looking at.

OIP.R1HoMtQf_3I_KrBE5zeogAHaEl?w=291&h=180&c=7&r=0&o=5&pid=1.7
"Girl with a Pearl earring."

You see, people keep looking back and forth between the girl's face and the Pearl earring. Kind of like the democrats worn out strategy of substance vs the shiny object.

Hope to be back in a few.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1    11 hours ago
If Harris did fine, why the endless need to always invoke Trump?

Most of us know the answer to that question and will try and help you. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
13.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1    10 hours ago
You see, people keep looking back and forth between the girl's face and the Pearl earring.

Actually the viewer's eye dances from her eye to her mouth then to the earing and back to her eye.Vemmer was not interested in your 2-dimensional world view. Leave art to those who are capable of understanding it and don't apply partisan histrionics to it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
13.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @13    8 hours ago
Harris did fine

For somebody who couldn't answer a single question.  Or do you think she did fine keeping the talking points going?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
14  Nerm_L    12 hours ago

Campaign advertising for races in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa are being broadcast here.  Democrats are flooding the airwaves with some exceptionally vile ads while there's been little Republican advertising.  The complaints about Trump ring hollow.

ABC News (with David Muir) aired 10 minutes of a Kamala Harris rally as news reporting.  Harris is attempting to be as obnoxious as Nancy Pelosi.  And it looked like the crowd was watching their cell phones for cues to cheer.  Pelosi never pushed legislation through the House on its merits; she dissed the opposition and brow beat the fence sitters to get what she wanted.  Nancy Pelosi is the true queen of odious politics; Hillary Clinton was only a wannabe.  And Harris is making a valiant attempt to become heir apparent.

The political polling has become totally worthless now that voting has started.  The unbiased liberal press is scrambling to shift to exit polling but how does that work with mail-in ballots?  Not to worry, the election will be certified as fair, honest, and above board; unless Harris loses, of course.  The unbiased liberal press will engage in a deranged frenzy of tabloid reporting before the election is over since that's all they have left.  

Meanwhile, Israel is being forced to tell the world what is off the table by a President Biden who tells the world nothing is off the table.  Yet Benjamin Netanyahu is winning wars while Joe Biden has had his ass kicked at every turn.  Tie Israel's hands and they'll still win a victory.  Why can't the US elect a leader like Netanyahu?

It's beginning to look like 'V for Victory' Zelensky is pushing to get everything on Ukraine's wish list - from the West, not Russia - before Ukraine folds.  Taking the war to Russia with the Kursk offensive hasn't changed anything on the front lines.  In fact, Ukraine winning that battle has weakened the war effort so that a negotiated capitulation becomes more likely.  Zelensky can't risk pissing off Europe and the United States now.  So, NATO now has Ukraine where it wants it; weak, dependent, and begging.   

 
 
 
bugsy
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14.1  bugsy  replied to  Nerm_L @14    12 hours ago

Wow!!!!! Outstanding points

Only the truth from you

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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14.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @14.1    12 hours ago

I'll second that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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14.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @14    12 hours ago

All spoken like a true MAGA. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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14.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2    10 hours ago
All spoken like a true MAGA. 

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Dismayed Patriot
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14.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2    6 hours ago
spoken like a true MAGA. 

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