Carson: Replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts
Ben Carson plans to eliminate Obamacare and replace it with health savings accounts comparable to the system Singapore has in place.Carson, in an interview with Dave Ramsey Wednesday, stated the health savings accounts would make every family essentially their own insurance company with no middleman. It gives you enormous flexibility to cover almost anything that comes up.Dave Ramsey: So, what do you do with Obamacare then? Ben Carson: Well, we are going to get rid of it, but you cant get rid of it without having a replacement. And the replacement would be health savings accounts that work extremely well everywhere theyre utilized. And you look at the people in Singapore, how happy they are, they pay a quarter of what we pay for healthcare. But I would change it to a health savings account over which you have compete control. Like you have control over your savings account, not one that has six bureaucrats in it. And you pay for it with the same the same dollars that we pay for traditional healthcare with, except you wouldnt have to use as many of them. And you give people flexibility so that if you were $500 short for a minor procedure, your wife could give you it out of hers, or your daughter, or your uncle, or your cousin, or your grandfather. It makes every family essentially their own insurance company with no middleman. It gives you enormous flexibility to cover almost anything that comes up. And it also makes every family concerned about each other. If Uncle Joe is smoking like a chimney, everybody is going to be hiding his cigarets. Its a good thing. It also makes the cost of catastrophic insurance drop dramatically. Because the only thing that is coming out of your catastrophic policy is real catastrophic events. How often do they occur? Not very often. So its just like having a homeowners policy with a bid deductible, versus a homeowners policy where you want every scratch coved. Two different animals.
It sounds good, in theory...and if it was really that simple....don't you think it would have occurred before now? Obamacare has had 42+ attempts at repeals, and it still stands, so really his whole thought process is a pipe dream. Keep in mind, Obamacare cuts down on insurance companies being able to pick and choose what they cover, AND, it opens up coverage with those folks who have pre-existing conditions. If you take it away, sure, you might be able to pay with an HSA, however, healthcare providers will be able to go right back to the old ways and say, sure you might be able to pay for it all out of pocket, but we don't provide services due to X preexisting condition. So in effect, his plan does nothing...except for those who rarely use health insurance. Keep in mind, most HSA's as they are today, are a LOSING investment. Mine for example, doesn't carry over the amount of money I put in it from year to year. Example, last year, I put in 1200 dollars. I didn't end up needing eye care (glasses/contacts/eye exam) so I used only 400. At the end of the year, I lost 800 dollars. Now, march that out, year after year, per person. It's a flawed concept....simple as that.
HSA's might have a chance to work if every working person was required by law to give to it, like FICA. If it's voluntary then most people are going to spend the money on luxuries like rent, food and utilities.
From Wikipedia:
Among other drawbacks
And you cannot use the money in the HSA to pay for your INSURANCE PREMIUM.
Qualifying for an HSA
To be an eligible individual and qualify for an HSA, you must meet the following requirements.
You must be covered under a high deductible health plan (HDHP)
You have no other health coverage except what is permitted under Other health coverage ,
Y ou are not enrolled in Medicare.
You cannot be claimed as a dependent on someone else's 2014 tax return.
All this talk about the singpore model....seems to me folks are forgetting on thing. In the US, we as a society are the most unhealthy, look at how many obese people there are. Also, in other countries, like the UK, they don't have the bureaucracy that we have. This is evidenced by the cost pharma companies charge here, as opposed to there. We let lobbyists dictate for the pharma companies, in the UK, they tell them, no. If it costs 3 dollars to make a pill, they allow a SMALL profit to be made...unlike here, where pharma companies make hundreds of thousands if not millions. Why? Simple, because pharma companies are allowed. As far as HSA's and say singapore, it's funny how many people advocate that type (some might say communistic governing) of healthcare/government, while at the same time calling obama a socialist. Hypocritical much??