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Best Speech ever.... to the so-called righteous folks in this country !

  
By:  It Is ME  •  excellent  •  3 weeks ago  •  72 comments

Best Speech ever.... to the so-called righteous folks in this country !
Don't try to make a "New Country", make the old one work !

Democrats running for president now, and the people like AOC, Talib, and the other "Lefty" Oldy moldy "Beer drinkers" ….etc. STILL say "Change" is needed, for VOTES …….. are overboard in their Promises. Even when things are going good, they aren't "Satisfied" and tell us it's still bad! 

Those TYPES will  NEVER be satisfied !

They want a NEW country. 

Well, this IS a NEW COUNTRY, and THIS COUNTRY is what "Other" folks flock to, and it's only 300 + or - years old.

I don't see anyone running towards countries that have been up and running for thousands and thousands of years...… do you ?

The "Left" praises other countries …… Yet …… I don't see them packing their bags to move there ! 

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It Is ME
1  author  It Is ME    3 weeks ago

"Progressive" types want to be like the "REST". Problem is, they won't move to the places they want this country to emulate ! jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
pat wilson
1.1  pat wilson  replied to  It Is ME @1    3 weeks ago

"Lefty" Oldy moldy "Beer drinkers" 

I may lean left and I'm an old beer drinker but "moldy" ??? I don't think so.

Besides, I thought the lefties drank wine and lattes.

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.1.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  pat wilson @1.1    3 weeks ago
Besides, I thought the lefties drank wine and lattes.

That's what they want you to think anyway.

They just "Dye" beer and call it.... Latte Wine .

 
 
 
SteevieGee
1.2  SteevieGee  replied to  It Is ME @1    3 weeks ago

So...  You want America to be where everybody agrees with the fearless leader, those who disagree are jailed, women are happy to be victimized when they're not busy being barefoot and pregnant, and minorities are reduced to a peon worker class.  Why don't you go to Saudi Arabia?

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  SteevieGee @1.2    3 weeks ago

Apparently...."MANY" of those you hate.... have been correct !

Best Economy …… EVER !

Isn't "Money" what you crave too ?

"Money" makes for an easier life.....doesn't it ?

 
 
 
Gary A. Patterson Jr
1.2.2  Gary A. Patterson Jr  replied to  SteevieGee @1.2    3 weeks ago

Isn't that where your from because our American President is being attacked by leftist that cant function in society and want everyone to pay their way. The only reason you vote for them is free everything and its destroying America. What leftist want to do is taking all our freedoms. So just because your a tyrant don't take it out on President Trump anyone else would have quit by now. He continues to stand for the people your just to blind to see it. !!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Gary A. Patterson Jr @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

Gary,

First of all welcome. How did you hear about NT?

Where did Steve say anything about wanting to take away freedoms? In fact, he is talking about freedoms he is worried about being removed from us. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago

It is me, I am not a leftie. I am an independent and this is just one sweeping generalization of what people want as their country. I want my country to move more to the moderate. I feel that the extremes of both parties have taken over. And I don't know anyone who wants to move to Europe so I don't even understand where you are going with this.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2    3 weeks ago

"Moderate" is just another way of saying ….. "Everyone should be the same". Agreeable. Borg like ! 

The "Progressive" actually wants everyone to be "Moderate" too. "Moderation" didn't get this country where it's at today. It took Individual "Ferocity" for that to occur in such a short time.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.1    3 weeks ago

You need to look up the definition of moderate:

Definition of   moderate

1 a :   avoiding extremes of behavior or expression   :   observing reasonable limits a   moderate   drinker
b :   CALM ,   TEMPERATE Though very much in favor of the measure, he expressed himself in   moderate   language.
It means not given to extremes, as some in both parties are and are trying to dictate policy here in this country. That is why there are more independents now than ever and in either party. 
Progressives don't want moderation. You said so in this very article with your examples you used. Those are not people any indie would vote for.
 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.2  author  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
That is why there are more independents now than ever and in either party. 

A True "Independent", look's to governance of themselves. Like a Libertarian.

independent  

1. Not governed by a foreign power; self-governing.
2. Free from the influence, guidance, or control of another or others; self-reliant: an independent mind.
3. Not determined or influenced by someone or something else; not contingent: a decision independent of the outcome of the study.

libertarian

1. an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.
2. a person who advocates civil liberty.
3. a person who believes in the doctrine that human beings possess free will.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

I've been an independent all my life and we are not Libertarians. We are issue-driven, and for each independent that is different. 

And I am not sure where you got your definitions from, but independents. as most Americans are not for being governed by a foreign power. Self-governance may or may not be an issue they are interested in. The rest is just a definition of independent people, not necessarily in politics. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.4  author  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

Foreign Power, wasn't of the literal sense in the definition. 

 
 
 
WallyW
3  WallyW    3 weeks ago

Sadly, some day, they will have probably taken over the country

Thankfully, I won't be here

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  WallyW @3    3 weeks ago
Sadly, some day, they will have probably taken over the country

not while I am alive.

they will have to kill me first.

I can not think of a better way to go than defending my country.

until they are ready to die trying to take it down...

we have nothing to worry about.

currently, they lack any real commitment and only have the balz to try and talk us out of our country... LOL

cheers :)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1    3 weeks ago

Wow, and you want to know we indies are afraid of people who talk this way. You are hoping for violence? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.2  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

I saw no hope for violence at all. Only a stated willingness to resort to it if 1619 project types try to take our 1776 America away from us by force.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
You are hoping for violence?

of course not.

hint: stop trying to add words that are not there in the first place.

we will not be talked out of our country by miscreant little piss ants. if they want it. they will have to decide to bleed for it.    as for me? I dont think they will ever have balz that big or the numbers required to pull it off.

our future? I predict more mayberry and less fallujah :)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.3    3 weeks ago
they will have to kill me first.

Your words.

Why go there?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.5  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
Why go there?

because it is fact.

 

they probably should write that down. it might become important one day.

 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson#51 @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

Do you have an issue with looking at slavery? And what does that have to do with the Declaration of Independence? Did you know that there was almost an anti-slavery clause included in the original copy? If the south had gone along with it, we wouldn't be discussing it today.

Know your history.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.5    3 weeks ago

Why would you even think that an event like that would happen?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.8  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.7    3 weeks ago

why would you think it wouldn't?

 newsflash: today's left is openly clamoring for socialism.

or have you not noticed?

they can talk all they want, that is called freespeech /  but if they ever get to enforce it?  all of hell will fall on their heads.

good thing our founders included the bill of rights.

  • first amendment = we can talk.

if that fails?

  • second amendment = we will fight.

that is what makes our country unique :)

 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.1.9  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

What you should be afraid of is the same thing he is.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.10  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Freedom Warrior @3.1.9    3 weeks ago

 

  • imagine a world where people would protect their country from socialists and communists at all cost. 

that would be shameful huh?

LOL

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.8    3 weeks ago
  • second amendment = we will fight.

that is what makes our country unique

Our founding fathers included that for two reasons:

  1. Invading forces
  2. Tyrannical government. i.e. Taxation without representation, acting against the constitution, etc.
 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freedom Warrior @3.1.9    3 weeks ago

I don't think that there will be a socialist government. That being said, whatever the electoral college brings, it brings. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.13  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.11    3 weeks ago
Tyrannical government.  

see: socialism / communism

neither of which are compatible with individual rights and individual freedoms.

thank you :)

 
 
 
The People's Fish
3.1.14  The People's Fish  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.13    3 weeks ago

Marxism, it's why you can't have our Ar-15's.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.15  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  The People's Fish @3.1.14    3 weeks ago
Marxism, it's why we you can't have our Ar-15's.

they ONLY wish. 

billy bob down at the local church has enough to arm everyone... LOL

for the emotionally sensitive among us...   yes that was a joke.... ha  :)

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.1.16  Freedom Warrior  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

I’m with you, live in Constitutional freedom or fight to preserve it. Unprincipled Independents may want to get off the fence.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.1.17  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

Yeah that would probably be because of people like myself and others here who have expressed vigilance in the  protections of our freedoms.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.18  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Freedom Warrior @3.1.16    3 weeks ago

as just a heads up, socialists should know before walking in.

socialism is theft and looters will be shot on sight.

Unprincipled Independents may want to get off the fence.

they have never mattered in history yet and they never will.

cheers :)

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.19  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

I know my history just fine.  The 1619 project and the idea that America came out of that and is based on that is pure Anti America propaganda by people who hate American exceptionalism.  The Patriots Guide to American History is an excellent read of our past.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.20  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.12    3 weeks ago
That being said, whatever the electoral college brings, it brings. 

if it brings socialism? it brings civil war.

socialism (in a nutshell) is unconstitutional.

socialism is not compatible with individual rights and individual freedoms.  these things will not be voted away, they must be taken by force.

after enough bs and failing relief from the courts most states governors will eventually be willing to ring the bell and call up militias

so hey like I said.

  if the people vote for civil war via electoral college?  we can do that.

but it is a long nasty process... I don't recommend it.

in today's world here is the bottom line.


 as the federal courts did not get packed with lunatics under hillary...  no socialist bs will get through the courts.

so regardless of who gets elected. the states are now well protected from any socialist bs for the next 20-30yrs easy.

thanks to "trump upsetting the applecart" 

we can all just chill out for a while :)

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.13    3 weeks ago
"see: socialism / communism neither of which are compatible with individual rights and individual freedoms"

LOL.  YOUR greatest fear, not mine. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.22  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.21    3 weeks ago
LOL.  YOUR greatest fear, not mine.

I don't fear socialists, I kick their asses.

just curious, how long have you been living in china now?

it is china right?  or am I mistaken? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.23  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.22    3 weeks ago
I don't fear socialists, I kick their asses. 

You should start by trying to tell the truth. You post as much or more ridiculous conspiracy nonsense as anyone on this forum. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.24  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.23    3 weeks ago
You post as much or more ridiculous conspiracy nonsense as anyone on this forum.

I'm batting 1000 my friend.

meanwhile, your still batting 0

every article you ever posted was full of shit

but just for fun explain again...

  • how trump will be removed from office?
  • or the one about how he would never be elected? an oldy but a goldy.
  • how mueller will take out trump  or is it not mueller time yet?
  • the dossier is real? this story should be fresh on your mind.

they are all pretty good bull shit.. you pick one... LOL

when I told you in 2017 adm rogers flipped on obama and was working with the good guys..  you said conspiracy theory then also. 

read the not cnn news lately?

https://www.google.com/search?q=adm+rogers+working+with+durham

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.25  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.22    3 weeks ago

I've been living in China for more than 13 years and intend to remain here for the rest of my life.  However, I am not a Chinese citizen, but have a renewable residency visa, which will continue to be renewed as I have been married to a Chinese citizen/resident for the past 11 years.  Nor am I a Communist. I will never give up my Canadian citizenship and passport, and for more than 40 years I have supported the Ontario and Canadian federal Conservative Parties.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.26  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.24    3 weeks ago

all you do is babble.  i feel sorry for perrie. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.27  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.25    3 weeks ago
Nor am I a Communist.

socialism/communism:  two ends of the same stick

if you think socialism is not theft? 

you are a communist.

I'm against socialism aka communism 

so china would never even let me in.

if they did let me in they would surely kick me out in a hurry.

 I do not bend :)

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.28  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.26    3 weeks ago
all you do is babble. 

babble ya want?

go read your last three years of your content.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.29  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.26    3 weeks ago
i feel sorry for perrie.

perrie can take care of herself.

your such an emotional little guy huh?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.1.30  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.25    3 weeks ago

 So everyone is curious where do you stand on China’s human rights violations that the Congress is stirring  to take action on here.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.31  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freedom Warrior @3.1.30    3 weeks ago

How fake news has become the norm for the US

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Editor's Note: Seymur Mammadov is the director of the international expert club EurAsiaAz and editor-in-chief of Azerbaijan's news agency Vzglyad.az. The article reflects the author's opinions and not necessarily the views of CGTN.

The U.S. is expanding the front of the war with China not only in the commercial and technological areas, but also in the information area with its propaganda materials, especially concerning the situation of the Uygurs in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

In early December, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act of 2019, which is devoted to "human rights violations" in Xinjiang and it provided sanctions against Chinese officials allegedly involved in the oppression of local Muslims. Prior to this, the U.S. Department of Commerce imposed sanctions on 28 Chinese government agencies and private firms for involvement in violating the rights of ethnic minorities in Xinjiang and other regions of China.

As is typical for the United States, it doesn't want to be alone in this war against Beijing and therefore put pressure on countries in Europe and other regions to draw them into the process. To a certain extent, Washington succeeds.

In July this year, the permanent representatives of 22 countries to the UN turned to the High Commissioner of the Human Rights Organization with a petition in which they complained about China in connection with the situation in Xinjiang. Analysts called this petition a provocation and an act outlining the borders of former British colonies. There is a certain amount of truth, considering that the similar crazy bill, the 2019 Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act was passed earlier by the U.S.

These charges against China bring us back to the time of the Cold War, when Western propaganda was sophisticated in portraying hellish life pictures in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). Today, China has become a prime target for Western propaganda. For what? It's very simple.

China is now a successful developing country, which is increasingly crowding out the U.S. on the world stage. Through the efforts of its incredibly hardworking and talented people, China rose from poverty and showed the world that, without breaking the foundations, it is possible to achieve an economic miracle.

This is clearly seen in the example of the same Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. As part of a nationwide campaign to combat poverty in remote and rural areas, the region has accelerated its development.

The per capita income in Xinjiang jumped last year by 7.5 percent, to 21,500 Yuan (3,073 U.S. dollars) per year. To fight against poverty, the Chinese Central Government is pursuing a policy of industrialization in this region, building transport and communications infrastructures, while developing e-commerce and tourist attractions. As a result, from January to October this year, Xinjiang had received nearly 200 million domestic and foreign tourists.

All these facts are easy to touch and taste if desired. But it is not visible that the West is interested in this. On the contrary, the United States and its allies in their anti-Chinese campaign are tightening their stance. The main topic of criticism and international censure of Beijing is the so-called "re-education camps," where, according to the American report, Xinjiang Muslims are forcibly driven away, turned into the Chinese communists, forced to change their faith and so on.

At the same time, there is also a real fake attack in the Western media, operating with data of unknown origin, information from some informed sources and mythical leaks. Relevant information is also scattered through social networks.

The spread of lies at times finds its refutation. For example, the story of a 67-year-old man named Henimhan Tudi, who allegedly was for a long time in a "re-education center" and was subjected to all kinds of humiliations there. But in the end it turned out that Tudi was not held in any "camp."

Here is another glaring fact. Photographs pretending to be Uygur Muslims in the so called "re-education camp" in Xinjiang turned out to be taken in a refuge for migrants in Thailand and during a protest in Turkey.

The photo which the Chinese police allegedly beat a Muslim for reading the Koran in his house made even more noise. It scattered across social networks, gaining millions of retweets and likes. But independent studies have shown that emotions were wasted in vain - in fact, it was the Indonesian police beat the thief.

Such allegations outrage Beijing. Because there are no "re-education camps", but there are simply vocational education and training centers where the population of a rapidly developing region learns the title language of the country and gets professional skills that allow them to get a job.

Over the past two years, nearly one and a half million new jobs have been created in Xinjiang, and more than eight million peasants have received specialties in such schools and found jobs in other areas. That is, millions of people thanks to the above schools have become active participants in economic processes, and have been divorced from negative trends, in particular, from being drawn into extremist activities.

We can talk about the creative role of China for hours. The creation and the pursuit of peace lie in the very philosophy of the Chinese civilization. This country is always ready for cooperation, and will lend a helping hand to friends, but will not allow other countries to speak itself from a position of strength. Fake news harms the international reputation of the West more than China. It is appropriate to recall the saying "Everything secret, sooner or later becomes apparent."

Commentary: Bad intentions, not low IQ, prompt US politicians to believe lie on Xinjiang

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Flower grower Ruz and his wife Tajinisa make rose sauce at a village in Hotan, Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, June 6, 2018. [Photo/Xinhua]

How to tell a lie and make people believe it?

The lie about the Chinese government "detaining millions of Uygurs" in the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region provides a good example. As the US independent website grayzone.com freshly revealed, it was based on two studies, both of which were unreliable.

The first was done by the Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders, an organization backed by the US government. By all standards of studies, the way it formed its estimate is rather rough: It interviewed merely eight people, then got their conclusions on the the fates of millions.

The second came from Adrian Zenz, a far-right "scholar" if he is worth that title. And he reached the "over 1 million" in a no less mysterious manner: He based it on a single report by Istiqlal TV, a separatist media organization based in Turkey, which was republished by Newsweek Japan.

It was from these two sources that certain US politicians knew the fate of "millions of Uygurs". Is there anything more absurd than that?

Who is foolish enough to believe such a lie?

But in reality, there really is a group of US politicians who believe it, not because they are foolish, but because that’s in accordance with their image of Xinjiang.

More importantly, the US House of Representatives passed the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act on Dec 3, which means quite many of the gentlemen on Capitol Hill chose to side with the lie.

That shows a good technique in telling a lie: You do not need to be logical or fill in all the loopholes. You do not need to falsify evidence for your untrue claims. All you need is to do good market research, learn what your audiences really need, and then tell a lie that meets their requirements.

In that way, your audiences will choose to believe your lie even more firmly than you do, as in the case of the Xinjiang detainment lie.

To dispel that lie would be easy. Just take a trip to Xinjiang, listen to what the local people really say, and find out the truth with your own eyes. Read some books and talk to some locals, and everybody knows the truth.

But certain US politicians will never do that, because they just do not want the lie destroyed. Good, let them keep their lies about millions of Uygurs suffering, and Xinjiang will continue prospering despite what they think.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.33  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @3.1.14    3 weeks ago

socialism ≠ communism ≠ Marxism.

Europe has socialism. They also have democracy. And no I am not advocating for it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.34  XXJefferson#51  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.26    3 weeks ago

Why?  The liberals here cause far more problems here than us conservatives do. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.35  XXJefferson#51  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.27    3 weeks ago

They’d never let me in as more than a tourist as I’m openly supporting of the protesters in Hong Kong and permanent independence for The Republic of China.  I don’t think I could be there longer than a couple of weeks before letting such preferences slip.  Or I might get caught giving out literature or Bibles. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.36  XXJefferson#51  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.28    3 weeks ago

Talk about babble...

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.37  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.31    3 weeks ago

An old Soviet rag now fronting for the Chinese communist regime bashing the entire western world?  Not just a grain of salt but tons of it....

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.38  XXJefferson#51  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.23    3 weeks ago
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Buzz of the Orient
3.1.39  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson#51 @3.1.37    3 weeks ago

You can believe whatever you want, especially what you read in your totally unbiased American media that is so entirely void of fake news, and you know I don't criticize your beliefs, but all you are doing is proving the articles I posted to be correct.

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.40  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.39    3 weeks ago

I’m aware of all the fake news here.  The more strongly MBFC approves a source the more likely to be fake that it is.  There are plenty of alternative media sources that are trustworthy.  Ironically the more such sources align with your and my conservative beliefs the more likely they are to be more hostile to your host country while the more liberal to progressive news sites are much more likely to be sympathetic to your host country.  

 
 
 
cjcold
3.1.42  cjcold  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.5    3 weeks ago

they probably should write that down. it might become important one day.

I imagine that it already is important to the FBI. Just wait until they come to your door to ask why you are openly promoting violence then open fire on them. Problem solved. Just don't forget to write your 'manifesto' first. /s

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.43  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  cjcold @3.1.42    3 weeks ago
Just wait until they come to your door 

 Id say every word I posted on the stand in front of a judge under oath... 

"all enemies foreign and domestic

defending ones country from marxists is not illegal as long as I wait on the governor (or president) to ring the bell... there is no crime there, just  pure unadulterated patriotism

 I took an oath. it has not expired, still active.

to ask why you are openly promoting violence

id just tell them to read the declaration of independence again...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

and then tell them to have a nice day :)

 

 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.1.44  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.31    3 weeks ago

Oh look at that a Trump supporter man that’s going to ruin your image.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.45  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.43    3 weeks ago
defending ones country from marxists is not illegal

Neither is defending it against fascists which is all the left is trying to do, they don't want socialism, that's nothing but bullshit from those who haven't the faintest clue as to what actual socialism is. So I guess when the left opens fire on the fascists, it will also be protecting the nation from all enemies, "foreign and domestic".

We are all Americans by the way. I hate to have to remind some that the majority they claim to hate IS America. It doesn't matter if you live in California or New York or Alabama, you're just as much an American as anyone else. Perhaps more American than those who still bitterly cling to some fantasy of the confederate "South": rising again which is definitely pure treason.

So whine, squirm, bitch, moan, complain, cry, sniffle, wish for your fucking useless safe spaces where you feel it's okay to discriminate against and attempt to disenfranchise law abiding tax paying Americans simply because they're poor, minorities, gay, liberal, progressive, Muslim, Hindu, transgender or any other flavor of American that your unbridled hatred boils over towards. Nothing is going to change the direction our SECULAR nation is heading, and we'll get there with or without the sad, tired, bigoted, xenophobic, white supremacists, white nationalists and religious conservatives who silently wish for a theocracy and pray every day for their God to come murder innocent people they disagree with. Oh, and have a nice day.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.46  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.41    3 weeks ago

Tell you what, Dean. You can believe whatever you want. I do have a question for you, though.  Taking note that there has not been a terrorist attack in China in the past three years, how many terrorist attacks have there been in the USA during that period?  Before you mention Hong Kong, China does not have total control over it for another 28 years. And by the way, Muslims live peacefully all over the rest of China with no problems - the biggest mosque I've ever seen is not very far from where I live.

In one of the Ha'aretz articles you posted, an Israeli government member said that because what China was doing to end terrorism was so much more effective than what Israel was doing, that Israel should copy it.

So what is happening in the immigrant detention camps in America these days?  As for your WW2 internment camps - why were they necessary?  What's the expression?  Pot-kettle?  People in glass houses....?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
3.1.47  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.46    3 weeks ago

The US government apologized for its wrongful internment. 

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/09/210138278/japanese-internment-redress

It is my belief that it is the Chinese communists that are the ones doing the terrorizing. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.48  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.45    3 weeks ago
Neither is defending it against fascists

im sure you believe the right are fascists but tell me... what side tries to silence speech they do not like?

and then you will have your answer.

as our last great president before trump said...

original

when the right hides their faces like little pussies and beats up people for freespeech?

you let us know okay?

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.49  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.47    3 weeks ago

Well, it seems that perhaps in order to distract from any problems there are in America, it has seen fit to point its finger at China recently.  I don't have a problem with China, and I'd rather live here than in the USA these days. I am very happy and safe here, and can afford to live very comfortably on a lot less income than I would have had to in Canada. Maybe when the separatist terrorists, and those having the potential to be such, have discovered that they are well off in China, and there is no more likelihood for separatist terrorism, the Chinese government may emulate Reagan and apologize for having to use such means for them to find happiness living in China.  How many years after the war was it when an American President decided to apologize?  When will an American President apologize for the massacre of the Native Americans?

It's interesting to hear the criticisms of China from those who have never been here.  Wasn't grandpappy's advice "Don't believe anything you read or hear, and only half of what you see with your own eyes."  Seems to me those words are even MORE applicable in these days of media bias and fake news. 

Oh, and I asked you a few questions, and I can understand why you would rather not answer them. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.50  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.48    3 weeks ago
as our last great president before trump said...

"In spite of the wildly speculative and false stories of arms for hostages and alleged ransom payments, we did not—repeat, did not—trade weapons or anything else for hostages, nor will we." - Ronald Reagan Nov 1986

"A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not." - Ronald Reagan March 1987

The blatant lie from Reagan was an obvious attempt to obfuscate the fact that fascists HATE liberals and always have. Republicans have been lying for decades, why should anyone believe a thing they say? Trump has now racked up well over 15,000 lies, why should we believe him when he says he doesn't want to be a dictator? Especially when he makes statements like this:

“(Kim Jong Un) speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same,” - Donald J Trump

Fascism ( / ˈ f æ ʃ ɪ z əm / ) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultra-nationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

One common definition of the term, frequently cited by reliable sources as a standard definition, is that of historian Stanley G. Payne. He focuses on three concepts:

  1. the "fascist negations": anti-liberalism, anti-communism
  2. "fascist goals": the creation of a nationalist dictatorship to regulate economic structure and to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture, and the expansion of the nation into an empire; and
  3. "fascist style": a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence , and promotion of masculinity , youth, and charismatic authoritarian leadership .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

 A 78-year-old Trump supporter, John McGraw, was charged with assault and disorderly conduct after multiple videos surfaced showing him punching a protester in the face. Trump said, when asked what he thought of the 78 year old's violent actions and whether he would help defend him  “He obviously loves his country, and maybe he doesn't like seeing what's happening to the country,” “I've actually instructed my people to look into (paying his legal fees), yes.”. When McGraw was asked if he enjoyed punching an unarmed non-threatening protester he said “ You bet I liked it. Knocking the hell out of that big mouth, the next time we see him, we might have to kill him . We don’t know who he is.".

https://time.com/4256809/donald-trump-l/

"Every extremist killing in the US in 2018 had a link to a right-wing extremism, according to a January 2019 report from the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism."

"There were at least 50 extremist-related killings in the US in 2018, according to the report, making it the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970"

https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1

Remind me again how many people ANTIFA killed last year? Oh, that's right, none. Zero. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Now that's not to say they haven't been guilty of violence and vandalism which is completely unacceptable and vociferously condemned by the vast majority of those on the left. When they use such vile violent tactics they become the very fascists they claim to despise so any of them doing such a thing should both be ashamed of themselves and recognize they do not represent liberals and progressives when they commit such illegals acts, they are representing and supporting anarchy and should of course be condemned by all. But the fact remains, they would have a long way to go and have to kill hundreds of innocents in order to catch up to the right wing in their support of fascism. Hopefully the dozen or so loosely organized ANTIFA groups are disbanded and dissolved as they serve no one any good and are simply used by the actual right wing fascists to justify their hate of the left.

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.51  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.39    3 weeks ago

I noticed that the Republic of China 🇹🇼 had to pass laws to prevent the Chinese regime 🇨🇳 from interfering in their internal affairs.  Then the regime had the nerve to complain about it. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
3.1.52  XXJefferson#51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.45    3 weeks ago

Secular progressives are the new fascism.  The book Liberal Fascism is right on regarding that fact.  Hitler liked the UK and USA late 19th and early 20th century progressives.  The part about eugenics he borrowed from them to the sorrow of the whole world.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.53  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson#51 @3.1.51    3 weeks ago

I think that Beijing considers Taiwan to still be part of China. 

 
 
 
JBB
4  JBB    3 weeks ago

History leaves those opposed to progress behind...

There are good reasons, "You can't fight progress", is a cliche. It is because it is a truth. Also, the far right's lameass attemps to rebrand "progress" as "socialism" is a big fail and that is because it is not true...

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JBB @4    3 weeks ago
to rebrand "progress" as "socialism" is a big fail 

I have to agree here..

we all know socialism is not progress, it is regressive.

 

I knew eventually we would agree on something :)

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.1    3 weeks ago
we all know socialism is not progress, it is regressive.

Very true. It's why I love capitalism and democracy and wouldn't ever think about supporting a socialist system of government. But to understand this fact, it takes actually getting educated and understanding what socialism is which apparently some on the right refuse to do. Most of those on the right I've spoken to clearly don't understand what socialism is or understand the fact that it does NOT equate to mere social programs like social security or Medicare or taxes. I feel rather silly having to explain this to some, but taxes are also NOT socialism.

We've already agreed and understand that some essential needs of a society must be shared as any one person, group or business would not be able to afford to build all our roads, water, sewer and power infrastructure which are essential to a society. There are some on the left who want to debate what things are non-essential and want to add things like higher education and health care to the "essential" list. Accepting those things as essential does NOT make America a socialist country. That's just a bullshit narrative coming from mentally deficient bigots who were just using the "socialist" smokescreen to discriminate against those they are ideologically and religiously opposed to.

So no, we will never be a socialist nation because there isn't any large enough organized group suggesting such a thing. Are there some on the left who also don't understand what socialism is? Of course, and they're always the ones the right likes to quote saying "See! They called for socialism!". But that's nothing but a bunch of misinterpreted hot air or left wing extremist loonies who do not represent the vast majority on the left.

 
 
 
XXJefferson#51
4.2  XXJefferson#51  replied to  JBB @4    3 weeks ago

socialism and progressivism are not progress but regression.   

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago
"I don't see anyone running towards countries that have been up and running for thousands and thousands of years...… do you ?"

Yes, I do.  Due to antisemitic terrorism - running to Israel.