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CANDACE OWENS VIDEO THAT ENRAGED THE LEFT

  
By:  It Is ME  •  excellent  •  4 years ago  •  97 comments

CANDACE OWENS VIDEO THAT ENRAGED THE LEFT
" The Left keeps telling you they are going to fight the Big Fight against Racism. 4 years later, they say it again"

"When you decide to live boldly without the irrational fear that is pumped into your head 24/7. Fear is a means of control over you and your mind. Break free and start living Fearless, boldly proclaim your Freedom!"

“I do not support George Floyd and a media depiction of him as a martyr for black America,” this is evidence of the black community’s tendency to “blame white people” and take no “personal accountability.

It is representative of a “broken black culture” that is quick to “celebrate criminals.” She said, “We are embarrassing in that regard. This is why we have a cycle and a toxic culture because nobody wants to tell the truth and black America. It is so easy to be effective it is so easy to ask white people to bow down and apologize and do all these things for us. It is crap.

We shouldn’t be buying T-shirts with his name on it.”

He was a violent criminal,” she said of Floyd. “Just because he was a criminal does not mean you deserve to die at the knee of a police officer. I can’t say it enough, no, he did not deserve to die in that manner.”

Racially motivated police brutality is a myth.

I have no apologies here to make. George Floyd: that’s not my martyr, he can be yours. That is all I have to say.”

"I can't think of the last Asian that I ran into that talked about internment camps. But black people always want to talk to me about slavery."

"Fascists, Antifa attacked me, and an all-black police force in Philadelphia, and they claim to be fighting racism."

"Liberals believe that they own blacks - still. They believe they're something proprietary about being black in this country, and if you deviate from the way they want you to think, in the way they want you to act, they grow violent."

"We say it all the time: the leftist media is inciting violence and hate by calling everybody a racist and a white supremacist."

"If you are born black, and you don't accept your natural status as a victim, then the validity of your blackness is immediately called into question."

“I do not support George Floyd and a media depiction of him as a martyr for black America,” this is evidence of the black community’s tendency to “blame white people” and take no “personal accountability.”

Candace Owens

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It Is ME
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1  author  It Is ME    4 years ago

The "LEFT" hates her ! jrSmiley_42_smiley_image.gif

I think she's GREAT ! jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  It Is ME @1    4 years ago

oh look, it's political harvest time again and a right wing [deleted] shows up to gather the low hanging fruit.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 years ago
it's political harvest time and a right wing token shows up to gather the low hanging fruit.

Your comment is exactly what Candace spoke about in the Video !

How's it feel to be ...... One of "Them" that she speaks of ? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 years ago

It never ceases to amaze me how woke liberals brand every black person a token if they don't bow to liberalism.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.3  author  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    4 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how woke liberals brand every black person a token if they don't bow to liberalism.

Me either !

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  It Is ME @1    4 years ago

Yes, I see a bright future for this gal. Great video. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  It Is ME @1    4 years ago

At the very least she is a speck in the eye of the monster!

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.3.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3    4 years ago
At the very least she is a speck in the eye of the monster!

A "TUMOR" would be better. jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  It Is ME @1.3.1    4 years ago

She is a great American!  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    4 years ago

Hate who?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2    4 years ago
Hate who?

The "Black Woman". jrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  It Is ME @2.1    4 years ago

not all blacks, just those who won't worship at the liberal alter.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1.2  author  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    4 years ago
not all blacks, just those who won't worship at the liberal alter.

Token seems to be "Liberals" Fav. Word when it come to "Blacks" that buck their system !

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    4 years ago

The left hates here because she speaks the truth.

George Floyd would be alive today if he hadn't resisted be detained.

Same for the kid at the Wendy's drive through.

There is no systemic or organized racism in the US.

The people are being bamboozled by the radical leftists and their lies.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Greg Jones @3    4 years ago
The people are being bamboozled by the radical leftists and their lies.

Yep !

No TV Funeral for BLACK 1 year Old's being killed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  It Is ME @3.1    4 years ago

Or any of the other innocent children cut down as black lives that don’t matter according to CNN’s Don Lemon.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @3    4 years ago
The left hates here because she speaks the truth.

I don't hate her. I think it's a bit sad that she ignores the facts of systemic racism and acts like that is the answer to all black Americans problems. I can understand why some black Americans dislike her as she trivializes their experiences and disrespects the many tears shed for the thousands of victims racial injustice.

The facts are:

"Black men who commit the same crimes  as  white men receive federal prison  sentences  that are, on average, nearly 20 percent  longer , according to a new report on  sentencing  disparities from the United States  Sentencing  Commission (USSC)."

" black offenders were 75 percent more likely to face a charge carrying a mandatory minimum sentence than a white offender who committed the same crime."

"A Black person is five times more likely to be stopped without just cause than a white person."

" 65% of Black adults have felt targeted because of their race"

" 87% of Black adults say the U.S. criminal justice system is more unjust towards Black people; 61% of white adults agree."

" While white people make up a little over 60% of the population, they only make up about 41% of fatal police shootings.  Black people make up 13.4% of the population, but make up 22% of fatal police shootings."

"Only 5% of illicit drug users are African American, yet African Americans represent 29% of those arrested and 33% of those incarcerated for drug offenses."

" African Americans and whites use drugs at similar rates , but the imprisonment rate of African Americans for drug charges is almost 6 times that of whites ."

I get that Candice wants to close her eyes and wish it all away because she's being empowered by conservatives who historically have been the ones with their knees on black Americans necks. Conservatives fought to conserve slavery, they fought to conserve segregation, they fought to conserve bans on blacks and women having a vote, they fought to conserve bans on interracial marriage, and they fight today to conserve systemic racial inequity. Conservatives put Candice on their shoulders because she's telling them what they want to hear and absolving them of any and all responsibility while attacking their enemies which happen to be millions of people who look like her but get the exact opposite treatment. I have no doubt she has actually experienced the systemic racism her fellow black Americans experience daily, she's just being paid enough by conservative groups to ignore it.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.2.2  author  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    4 years ago
While white people make up a little over 60% of the population, they only make up about 41% of fatal police shootings.  Black people make up 13.4% of the population, but make up 22% of fatal police shootings."

Exactly what she talked about in the Vid.

Did you not listen to the entire Vid ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.2.3  author  It Is ME  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.1    4 years ago
You completely missed the point... lol.

Liberal types always do !

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.1    4 years ago
You completely missed the point

How so? Greg is claiming there is no systemic racism, I showed the data proving there is. What other point was he trying to make other than telling everyone to turn a blind eye to the undeniable systemic racism?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.2.6  author  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.4    4 years ago
I showed the data proving there is.

And so did Candace in the Video.

Did you listen through it ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.2.8  author  It Is ME  replied to    4 years ago

"Personal Responsibility" is waaaaaaay too hard ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.2.10  author  It Is ME  replied to    4 years ago
How do you fix systemic racism?

Genocide ? jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.2.12  author  It Is ME  replied to    4 years ago

320

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    4 years ago

You agree then that their is systematic discrimination against white males since black females receive shorter prison sentence than white males that commit the same crime? 

Your evidence shows the systematic discrimination in sentencing isn't racial, it's based on sex.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  gooseisgone @3.2.5    4 years ago

I also notice that no stats were presented about those who were  sentenced regarding prior offenses, which in many cases would seem to warrant tougher sentences for subsequent crimes.

No stats about those resisting arrest, either.

interesting stat above:

Only5% of illicit drug users are African American, yet African Americans represent 29% of those arrested and 33% of those incarcerated for drug offenses." "African Americans and whitesuse drugs at similar rates, but the imprisonment rate of African Americans for drug charges isalmost 6 times that of whites."

Love to know how the 5% number was arrived at.  And if only 5% of illicit drug use is by blacks, how can blacks and whites have similar drug usage rates? If they are similar?

That would mean that around 90% of drug users are not black or white.

I'm not buying that.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.13    4 years ago
If I have to explain it to you, you will never get it.

I love Sydney Poitier and I remember that scene well, though it doesn't address the very real statistics proving continued inequity in our justice system. You think you can "explain it to me" yet all you've done so far is agree with those turning a blind eye and acting as if there is no problem thus white America should just keep doing what it's been doing and act as if the legacy doesn't exist. Telling black Americans to just stop thinking of themselves as black Americans does nothing to stop the racial profiling, it does nothing to stop our courts from handing out disproportionate sentences, it does nothing to stop prosecutors from filing charges disproportionally. But if you think you've got it all figured out then great, I suppose you'll find that blissful.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.22  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.19    4 years ago
I happen to go back to the root of many problems. The beginning.... not the middle. 

You do realize what Poitier's character was saying right? He was angry with his father for just accepting the status quo of white dominance, of suggesting he shouldn't marry a white girl because he was stuck in the old mind set of cow towing to the white master. He wasn't claiming racism was over and should be ignored, he was standing up for his rights as every black American should. The movie came out in 1967 which was the same year that the Loving v. Virginia decision struck down laws that banned inter-racial marriages as unconstitutional. So when this came out it was extremely controversial in conservative homes that had desperately been trying to conserve their bans on interracial marriage.

So I'm not sure what you took from that movie clip but it certainly wasn't that racism was over now that interracial marriage bans had been struck down. He was saying there was a long way to go and the only way to get there was to stop kneeling and accepting the status quo of systemic racism as he accused his father and his fathers generation of doing.

Here is an interesting account of how the actor felt about the blatant racism he encountered in real life.

"In a column for The Hollywood Reporter , as told by T.H.R. executive editor Stephen Galloway, Jewison recalls that Poitier was excited to make the film. It was a leading role in a drama about a Philadelphia-based police officer named Virgil Tibbs investigating a murder in Sparta, Mississippi. However, the location presented an issue for Poitier. Jewison wanted to work in “believable” locations, but the actor had previously made a vow to never go south of the Mason-Dixon line.

“He said it with such emphasis that I realized it was very important to him,” Jewison recalls. “I said, ‘Why is that?’ And (Sidney Poitier) says, ‘I had an unsettling experience with Harry Belafonte in Georgia, where our car was chased and we were threatened, and I don’t want to go down there.’ So I said, ‘I’ll do my best to stay north of the Mason-Dixon line. What can I say? I want you to do the picture.”

Jewison and his team began an exhaustive search to find new locations, but ultimately couldn’t find anything fitting north of a town called Dyersburg, Tennessee.

“I remember pleading with him, and Sidney said, ‘I understand, I understand,’” the director remembers. “He realized we were up against the gun and the picture was going well.”

So they picked up and went south. Jewison remembers assuring Poitier that the crew was “very loyal” and was full of “big guys” who would protect him from potential protests. However, they couldn’t escape the town’s racist policies. “We were forced to stay in the Holiday Inn because it was the only place that accepted African-American people,” Jewison says. “The main hotel in Dyersburg was a real Southern hotel, and it was whites only. You’ve got to remember, we were shooting in 1966, so things were a little uptight. Martin Luther King Jr. had just done the march on Selma. The country was in the midst of a racial revolution, if you could call it that. There were marches; there was a lot of friction between the races; and most of it was in the South. That was the state of the union, and so we knew this was a very controversial film. And I had no idea how it was going to be received.”

There are many people alive today who were adults through the 1960's, both white and black, both those who were fine with the status quo of racism and those who were the victims of it, this is not something in the long distant past. Trying to sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened is only something those who continue to harbor in their hearts those false beliefs that black people are somehow more prone to crime which explains the racial inequity in our justice system would do.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.24  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.1    4 years ago

"You completely missed the point... lol."

No, he did not.  DP is always right on 'point'. . . ..lol

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.26  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.25    4 years ago
it’s beyond your scope.

I more than understand what you're saying, I just disagree with it wholeheartedly. I think it's naive and foolish. I agree that standing up and refusing to be a victim any longer is necessary, but you can't make real change in a society that refuses to acknowledge or take responsibility for its past and its present. You either accept that today there are still real victims because black Americans tells us so, the statistics tell us so and the marching Nazi's in the street trying to protect symbols of racism tell us so, or you believe all that is somehow a lie and all black Americans need to do is change their attitudes and perspective and everything will be fine. It's easy for some to callously turn a blind eye and pretend like nothings happening because you yourself may not have treated anyone differently. But that doesn't mean it's not real. Just because you didn't tell a racist joke and never gave a black defendant more jail time or pulled someone over simply because they were black in a white neighborhood or discriminated in some other way doesn't mean what black Americans are experiencing and expressing isn't real and is just some supposed state of mind.

If one can admit that the discrimination and prejudice coming from some whites is real, then we can address and condemn it when it happens while also empowering black Americans to stand up for themselves and refuse to be the victim any longer. Those continuing to make excuses for the inequity and insinuating that it's purely black Americans own fault that they get arrested disproportionally or get longer sentences than their white counterparts who committed the exact same crimes and pretending the inequity doesn't exist are making sure the systemic racism continues.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.28  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.27    4 years ago
What do you think I should do about everything you mentioned in your post?

It starts with truly listening to the victims instead of assuming they're lying or that it was somehow their own fault. Then it takes the simple admission that there is a problem instead of seeing the problem and ignoring it or refusing to acknowledge it because it just looks too hard to deal with or you just don't know what you can personally do about it.

Then it takes supporting those in your local community that are also acknowledging it and presenting innovative ways to address it, and beyond that supporting candidates on the State and national level who do the same. It takes understanding that its not going to be an overnight fix. We've come a long way since the 1960's but we've still got a long way to go for actual equality in society and our justice system. Being aware of that and never letting the side win that doesn't want change, that wants to conserve the status quo, and continually rejecting their attempts to diminish, downplay or obfuscate black voices, black lives and black society which are really just American voices, American lives and American society. It takes rejecting the argument that we shouldn't even bother trying because equality is impossible, which you'll only find coming from those sitting on top of society.

Lastly it takes truly rooting out any and all belief that there is some "white culture" that needs to be protected and conserved. "White culture" is a sad sick fantasy only entertained by those who cling to prejudice and ignorance.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.31  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.1    4 years ago

Bingo!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2.32  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.29    4 years ago
I have always treated all people of all races and religions and non religions with great respect.

I have no doubt that's true, you seem like a very nice genuine person. However, that response doesn't address a single thing I mentioned after you asked what else you could do about the current existence of racial inequity. Treating others the way you would like to be treated is a great start, and if that's enough for you that's fine. This of course doesn't really take much effort and is really the least we can do if we support equality. The actual racists and bigots rely on the effective silence coming from the majority to continue their racist behavior. They hope for the rest of us to turn a blind eye while we go about thinking everything is okay because we didn't personally racially profile or hire the white less qualified applicant for the job because they didn't get a "scary vibe" like they did from the more qualified black applicant.

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.2.33  Freewill  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.32    4 years ago
They hope for the rest of us to turn a blind eye while we go about thinking everything is okay...

Who is turning a blind eye?  How many of these "silent" folks do you imagine are out there?  And how many of them do you think don't see what is going on, or don't feel that what happened to George Floyd and many others is an abomination and have failed to say or do anything about it? 

... because we didn't personally racially profile or hire the white less qualified applicant for the job because they didn't get a "scary vibe" like they did from the more qualified black applicant

To what extent do you feel this is actually happening, and how would you know?  What if, God forbid, the white person was actually more qualified for the job?  Not saying this doesn't happen, but what would you have someone like me or Kathleen do about that if it did, and how would we (or you) possibly have enough information in each case to know?  Keep in mind that in most places there are already laws against discriminatory hiring practices that the vast majority of us agree with.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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3.2.34  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    4 years ago
systemic racism

the only systemic racism in this country?

is created by decades of democrat policy that keeps the black community poor.

256

trump created more jobs in the black community than any previous president ever.

tell me why the democrats did not do that yrs ago?

 
 
 
monroe2012
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3.2.36  monroe2012  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    4 years ago

She knows shes lying. She's feeding into the narratives of Trump and his supporters. She used the NAACP to win a racial discrimination lawsuit. Now She along with her white husband says there is no white privilege. And no systemic racism. It sad. We still have Oreos!

 
 
 
monroe2012
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3.2.37  monroe2012  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2.4    4 years ago

Amen. That is the agenda turn a blind eye to systemic racism. Im glad some are wise to see through candace. Keep us quiet so we can't progress and everything stays the same. They don't want to admit racism just put a bandaid on it. I don't need Candace or any one telling me there is no racism. I live it everyday. Iam in the dirty jim Crow south. So that is my stance and I'm sticking too it!

 
 
 
It Is ME
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7  author  It Is ME    4 years ago

"Liberals" Don't have a Clue, nor CARE what a BLACK WOMAN has to say, if it's outside the "Liberal" box. Nadler and Lieu prove how "Liberals" ignore and/or don't listen to what doesn't fit their "Keep them in Chains" agenda (5:35 into the video):

Nadler thinks Candace called Lieu Stupid, when it's plain to see......she didn't !

PROVES that "Liberal" Congress members really don't listen to "Black People", especially if they don't like them !

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8  Sparty On    4 years ago

Yep a strong, articulate, conservative and confident Black woman.   Basically the lefts worst nightmare.

C & C in 2024.   Condi and Candice

 
 
 
It Is ME
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8.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Sparty On @8    4 years ago
Basically the lefts worst nightmare.

That's for sure !

"Liberals believe that they own blacks - still. "

Look at what Joe told a "Black Man":

"If you vote for Trump.....You're NOT BLACK" !

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @8.1    4 years ago
"If you vote for Trump.....You're NOT BLACK" !

Yeah, can you imagine if Trump had said something like that?

There would be left nuts popping all over the US.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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8.1.2  author  It Is ME  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.1    4 years ago
There would be left nuts popping all over the US.

Well...... The "LEFT" thinks that meant Joe ...... "CARED" ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @8.1.2    4 years ago

You know honestly, i think he does "care" but his definition of care and mine are very much worlds apart.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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8.1.4  author  It Is ME  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.3    4 years ago
You know honestly, i think he does "care" but his definition of care and mine are very much worlds apart.

"Hand Up", compared to "Hand OUT" ? 

That's just ridicules. jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Freewill
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8.2  Freewill  replied to  Sparty On @8    4 years ago
Condi and Candice

Had Condi run in any election since the Bush Administration I would have voted for her in a heartbeat.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  Freewill @8.2    4 years ago

Condi is tight but I don’t think she wants anything to do with the CF our political system has become.    And who can blame her?

 
 
 
Freewill
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8.2.3  Freewill  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.2    4 years ago
but I don’t think she wants anything to do with the CF our political system has become.    And who can blame her?

Indeed!

I heard her speak at a summit in 2011 or 2012 I believe.  Very impressive lady!  But you could tell she was tiring of politics even then.

 
 
 
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9  Account Deleted    4 years ago

I find her "Paul-like" instantaneous conversion from liberal to conservative puzzling.

Bio

Her conversion seems to center around  something called  GamerGate

Apparently Gamergateers were harassing some participants that they viewed as pro feminist, progressives. She proposed a website to out them, there was push back from the left and right and apparently she blamed the left the most for opposition. That seems odd since it was a Democrat that got the ball rolling on legislation to combat the "doxing" she was trying to stop.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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9.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Account Deleted @9    4 years ago
I find her "Paul-like" instantaneous conversion from liberal to conservative puzzling.

It wasn't "INSTANT" !

In 2015, Owens was CEO of Degree180.

Some folks "Wake" better than "Others" !

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  It Is ME @9.1    4 years ago

She is just another Aunt Jemima to the "woke" folks.

Aren't all blacks who don't worship at the progressive altar an Uncle Tom or Aunt Jemima?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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9.1.2  author  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.1    4 years ago
Aren't all blacks who don't worship at the progressive altar an Uncle Tom or Aunt Jemima?

Like she says:

"If you are born black, and you don't accept your natural status as a victim, then the validity of your blackness is immediately called into question."

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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10  Perrie Halpern R.A.    4 years ago

Let's talk a little bit about her quotes:

"I can't think of the last Asian that I ran into that talked about internment camps. But black people always want to talk to me about slavery."

I lived near a huge Japanese community, and you better believe they are bitter about the internment camps. When was the last time she talked to one? Better yet, when was the last time she even watched a documentary about it? And btw, the Japanese Americans were paid preparation (albeit not much) for what happened in WWII, so it goes to show how little she does know about them.

"Fascists, Antifa attacked me, and an all-black police force in Philadelphia, and they claim to be fighting racism."

Not a shocker. They are anarchists. As far as I know, they are not part of any party either. 

"Liberals believe that they own blacks - still. They believe they're something proprietary about being black in this country, and if you deviate from the way they want you to think, in the way they want you to act, they grow violent."

And this is just her opinion. I have never heard anyone say they "own blacks". If she is saying that Dems think that blacks will vote Dem, then say that. As for becoming violent... please give an example of that.

"We say it all the time: the leftist media is inciting violence and hate by calling everybody a racist and a white supremacist."

Here I agree. I think that there is too much emphasis on our differences by the media than what we do have in common. I don't think the intent is to incite violence. I have never heard or read anything from the MSM that would incite anyone.

"If you are born black, and you don't accept your natural status as a victim, then the validity of your blackness is immediately called into question."

Again, personal perception by her. 

“I do not support George Floyd and a media depiction of him as a martyr for black America,” this is evidence of the black community’s tendency to “blame white people” and take no “personal accountability.”

While I agree that the deification of George Floyd was way over the top (for example his funeral), his death was wrong. End of story. If she can't see that the police are there to protect and SERVE, then she has missed a big point.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.1  author  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10    4 years ago
When was the last time she talked to one?

When was the last destructive Protest over it by the Japanese ?

"the Japanese Americans were paid preparation (albeit not much) for what happened in WWII.

Many of the direct victims that received reparation's were still alive.

"Not a shocker. They are anarchists. As far as I know, they are not part of any party either. "

Yet.....they're there. Even "State Leaders" say they are, although they just call them "Out of State Radicals".

"I have never heard anyone say they "own blacks".

A Metaphor ! jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

I think that there is too much emphasis on our differences by the media than what we do have in common. I don't think the intent is to incite violence. I have never heard or read anything from the MSM that would incite anyone.

Come on Now .......... you know it doesn't take a specific "Call to Arms" to get things going for those that aren't "Normal" and "Peaceful" !

"Defund the Police" reports.... Constantly ...... doesn't bring out the dredges of society ?

The Bad part of it, as Candace Notes...... The Dredges are being followed no matter what they do.

"Again, personal perception by her."

Joe Biden (Running for President of the United States) already showed her comment to be true:

“I tell you if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black,” 

"While I agree that the deification of George Floyd was way over the top (for example his funeral), his death was wrong. "

Candace noted that quite a few times in her video !

you did watch the video ...... right ?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
10.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @10.1    4 years ago
When was the last time she talked to one? When was the last destructive Protest over it by the Japanese ?

This is why I don't get into discussions with you. You move goalposts. I responded directly to her actual quote:

"I can't think of the last Asian that I ran into that talked about internment camps. But black people always want to talk to me about slavery."

So where did she talk about destructive protests? Answer: she didn't. Instead, she decided she knew how the Japanese Americans felt about being in internment camps and she got it wrong.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.1.2  author  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.1    4 years ago
You move goalposts. I responded directly to her actual quote:

You did comment to me:

"Let's talk a little bit about her quotes:"

Didn't you ?

I did respond to your comments which were in reference to her quotes....right ?

How else does one discuss something ?

So..... One answer of mine didn't meet your expectations, and your gonna write everything off ?

Just because you say you've heard an Asian or two, say that they are still unhappy, doesn't mean she isn't right in what she said ?

How do we know you actually speak to Asians ?

See how that goes !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
10.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @10.1.2    4 years ago

Because this was never part of the discussion:

When was the last time she talked to one? When was the last destructive Protest over it by the Japanese ?

That is not a quote of hers, nor is it relevant to the discussion.

btw, you might want to read this article about why reparations were paid:

It wasn't violent, but they didn't take it sitting down either. And it was the children of the interred that protested and it was because of the civil rights movement of the '60's and '70's. 

Just because you say you've heard an Asian or two, say that they are still unhappy, doesn't mean she isn't right in what she said ?

Not generic Asians, Japenese Americans, and yes I lived in among them and they have been very forthcoming about this. Where does it say that she has spoken to any of them? I doubt it or she would have said it. Besides, nothing I have said here is not on the record already.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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10.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  It Is ME @10.1.2    4 years ago

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCxDWPwIujy/?igshid=16a9t6jlmn4f3

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Candace Owens Just Made the Most Absurd Possible Argument ...

...

Candace Owens Made the Most Absurd Possible Argument Against Colin Kaepernick.  It involves accusing Native Americans of cannibalism. 

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
12  Freewill    4 years ago

While I may not agree with all of Ms. Owens statements, I do believe that much of what she says is worth consideration and discussion.  Why should her views as a black person be any less deserving of consideration than the words of other black people?  And she is not the only black person who sees things differently than what many like Mr. Biden consider to be the only way black folks should see them.  There are many black folks running for Congress and other offices as Republicans in this year's election, and they too have good reasons for their views.  This list may not be all inclusive:

Kathy Barnette - Pennsylvania 4th District

Ronda Baldwin-Kennedy - California 26th District

Joe Collins - California 43th District vs. Maxine Waters ( one of the most corrupt members of Congress )

Byron Donalds - Florida 19th District

Tamika Hamilton - California 3rd District vs. John Garamendi

Tre Pennie - Texas 30th District

Aja Smith - California 41st District

Carla Spalding - Florida 23rd District (if she gets past primary Aug 18) - vs. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz

Kim Klacik - Maryland 7th District

Charlotte Bergman - Tennessee 9th District (if she gets past primary Aug 6)

Tim Rogers and Cindy Werner - Running against each other in Republican primary for Wisconsin 4th District on Aug 11

Burgess Owens - Utah 4th District

John James - Running for Senator - Michigan

Tim Scott - Current Senator South Carolina

Many of these candidates are treated very poorly by the media and those who feel that black folks should only consider or vote for Democrats, even though many of them will ask, "What have Democrats really done for our black communities in the last few decades?"

Ms. Kennedy, for example, in a recent newsletter wrote:

When you run for office as a black republican woman, you know that the “woke” liberals are going to come after you for not staying in the little box they have for you.

When a Black Person (especially a Black Woman) dares to think differently than these white liberals say you should, they quickly show you their true colors.

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It didn’t surprise me when Julia Brownley, my opponent and the “wokest” liberal snowflake I have ever met, had nothing to say about these racist attacks. I guess her outrage against racism and sexism only extends to those who stand against our President.

That is okay. I am a small business owner, law school dean, and mother of six children. These liberal racists don’t scare me, and I don’t need Julia Brownley’s help to stand up to them.

There are many other black conservative commentators like Owens who have something to say that might rub some folks the wrong way, but some of the points they make are certainly worth considering.  The fact that there are many black folks running for election as Republicans in this election could be a sign that some feel it is time to re-consider the status quo.  And it is certainly about time that the Republican party becomes more diverse.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
12.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freewill @12    4 years ago

I have no issue with black people being republicans. I happen to like Condi Rice and Colin Powell, to name two. I just think she makes faulty arguments and has the typical arrogance of a twenty-something (yes I own two who also think they know everything). I am not familiar with the list you gave, but I am sure that there are many fine individuals on the list. Not loving partisan politics, I can't say if I actually care about the R or D after a name, but rather what they are saying and how they comport themselves. 

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
12.1.1  Freewill  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1    4 years ago
I can't say if I actually care about the R or D after a name, but rather what they are saying and how they comport themselves

Indeed.  But I do care about how they are treated simply because of the R or D after their name. And as I said, it is certainly about time that the R party becomes more diverse.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
12.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freewill @12.1.1    4 years ago
And as I said, it is certainly about time that the R party becomes more diverse.

I think that people join a party by whether or not the party speaks to them. If the Republican party wants to be more inclusive, they have to make the effort for outreach and before someone says "free things" or "get off the plantation" no, I am not talking about that. In fact, it's comments like that, that I think blacks find a turn-off. The argument to join the Republican party is often couched as how Republicans feel about Democrats (who have a bulk of the black vote) rather than how they would be better served by being a part of their party. 

At least this is how I see it, as a non-partisan. 

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
12.1.3  Freewill  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.2    4 years ago
The argument to join the Republican party is often couched as how Republicans feel about Democrats (who have a bulk of the black vote) rather than how they would be better served by being a part of their party

Maybe in part, but the candidates listed above already made that decision.  And it was based on a combination of what they saw as decades of failed leadership (mostly but not all Democratic) in their communities, and what they think might be done instead to improve their communities that have languished for so long. 

Joe Collins for example, on his campaign website spends more time and effort explaining sensible policies that he feels will bring better results for his community.  He mentions his opponent Maxine Waters very rarely even though she has done little to improve conditions in her District in the last 29 years and has even been found by CREW to be one of the most corrupt members of Congress , even MOST corrupt in 2005, 2006, 2009, 2011, and 2017.  I don't care which party Collins runs under, he still sounds like a much better choice to me.

Another interesting fact is that Collins' campaign is funded more than 81% from local donors contributing $200 or less.  Maxine Waters on the other hand, as the chairwoman of the House Financial Services Committee, gets mostly PAC contributions which account for 59 percent of her fundraising. Small donors are hardly a factor, making up less than 5 percent of her campaign cash.  So who might be more interested in representing their actual District?

It will be an interesting race to watch, even if he gets blown out, which he might.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
12.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Freewill @12.1.1    4 years ago

In Michigan current Caucasian Senator Peters is going to need to get 80+% of the urban African American vote of that state Against African American John James in order to keep his seat.  I’m going to make small contributions to each of those listed above in the general election.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
12.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freewill @12.1.3    4 years ago
Joe Collins for example, on his campaign website spends more time and effort explaining sensible policies that he feels will bring better results for his community.  He mentions his opponent Maxine Waters very rarely even though she has done little to improve conditions in her District in the last 29 years and has even been found by CREW to be one of the most corrupt members of Congress , even MOST corrupt in 2005, 2006, 2009, 2011, and 2017.  I don't care which party Collins runs under, he still sounds like a much better choice to me.

Well, I am no fan of Maxine Waters, so anyone who can do the job better than her would be an improvement and I think that is what the black community should think about. Does the individual candidate seem like an improvement to serve our community? I think we should stop thinking in terms of R or D but rather individual. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
12.1.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.5    4 years ago

"I think we should stop thinking in terms of R or D but rather individual."

I gave up supporting strictly Republican or Democrat parties a decade or more ago and vote strictly as a registered Independent to keep my options open and concentrate on the person not the party.

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
12.1.8  Freewill  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @12.1.7    4 years ago
vote strictly as a registered Independent to keep my options open and concentrate on the person not the party

Indeed.  I voted person over party even before I dropped my registration with the Republican party and switched to independent (or "no party preference - NPP" in California) in 2016.  The R and D parties (not necessarily all their voters) have drifted so far to the extremes that it appears the inmates are running the asylum.  In many areas, including many counties in California, we are seeing Republican and Democrat voter registration drop while the number of NPP registrations increase (CA total NPP over 5.3 million now, 26% of voters).  According to a May 28 to June 4 Gallup poll Independents constitute 40% of voters nationally while R and D 25% and 31% respectively. Which is a good sign if you ask me.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
12.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @12.1.7    4 years ago

I’ve voted for two independents for POTUS in my lifetime.    

One was a wasted vote and helped Clinton win his first term.    Never again until, if and when, they get rid of the two party system.

i vote for the person that agrees best with my belief system.    No candidate will ever be perfect in that regard.

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
12.1.11  Freewill  replied to  Sparty On @12.1.10    4 years ago
One was a wasted vote and helped Clinton win his first term.    Never again until, if and when, they get rid of the two party system

Understood.  Been there, done that.  But here's the thing.  The two party system is firmly entrenched and becoming more beholden to their loudest special interests, and the only way to fix that is to continue to grow the ranks of the rational and reasonable independent voters to the point where the politicians can no longer count on the clout that their national committees currently command.  That is happening, but unfortunately at a much slower pace than is needed for many of us to see true change in our lifetime.   We need to be louder and we need to help accelerate that trend.

No candidate will ever be perfect in that regard.

Agreed.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
12.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @12.1.6    4 years ago

And yet he passed one of the most important rights act, the "Civil Rights Act". So in a way LBJ was the same kind of "racist" as was Walt in "Gran Torino".

Btw, he wasn't the only US President to use those words. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
12.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @12.1.7    4 years ago

Good for you Ed! I am a registered Independent for the same reasons, too.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
12.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freewill @12.1.8    4 years ago
According to a May 28 to June 4 Gallup poll Independents constitute 40% of voters nationally while R and D 25% and 31% respectively. Which is a good sign if you ask me.

It tells you that people are sick of partisan politics and maybe want a viable third party. 

 
 
 
monroe2012
Freshman Silent
12.1.16  monroe2012  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.12    4 years ago

Amen. They still use the N word now on both sides. We're not cluess. John f kennedy along with lyndon b johnson did some decent things for minorities. But at the end of the day who was the government assistance programs created for? So now all of a sudden the minorities are the ones who want hand outs. But we have more whites on the programs snd getting assistance.

 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
12.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Freewill @12    4 years ago

I’ve been advocating for that kind of diversity in our Party since the 1990’s.  There are a good number of Hispanic and Asian Americans as well as women of all races running for office as Republicans this year.