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Would You Want To Trade Places With A Black American?

  
By:  JBB  •  Opinions  •  one month ago  •  105 comments

Would You Want To Trade Places With A Black American?
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JBB
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1  author  JBB    one month ago

Why so many are afraid of learning our true history!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    one month ago

if time travel is ever invented, I'd like to see the entire rwnj leadership get a paint job and then get transported to the deep south circa 1963.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago
if time travel is ever invented, I'd like to see the entire rwnj leadership get a paint job and then get transported to the deep south circa 1963.

Why? The Democrats would still win all the elections and probably lynch them.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    one month ago

What black person would you like to be, and why?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.2.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    one month ago

“What black person would you like to be, and why?”

So conversely, what ‘white person’ would you like to be and why?

Picking oneself being mutually exclusive. 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.2  Ender  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.1    one month ago

I was always taught to not want to be anyone else. 

You are given the cards you are. It is how you play your hand.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.3  bugsy  replied to  Ender @1.2.2    one month ago
It is how you play your hand.

Ender, I would give you a hundred thumbs up for this if I could.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.2.4  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @1.2.2    one month ago

And still, too many are dealt an automatic wild card…though some have no idea of that advantage. All everyone should ask as they come to the table is a square deal.

Hopefully…and I truly believe it will someday happen…everyone will not be playing against the house but will actually left to be their own wits and experiences…no stacked decks, nothing up the sleeve, but the opportunity to compete on a level playing field. 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.5  Ender  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.4    one month ago

Maybe one day.

I never got or get bigotry or dislike or even hatred for others. Just because of something as artificial as how some one looks.

Besides, it is a lot more fun to get to know a lot of different people and cultures.

I sometimes think something is seriously wrong with people that want to wrap themselves into some kind of protective cocoon of hatred.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.2.6  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @1.2.5    one month ago

“I never got or get bigotry or dislike or even hatred for others.”

Well said.

As a son of parents who were dyed-in-the-wool Goldwater republicans and actively campaigned for Wallace, my transition was long in coming.

On this Father’s Day weekend, I cannot help but thank my two boyz…

…for first…having the confidence to challenge my thoughts.

second…doing the hard work of researching and questioning and forming their own beliefs;

and finally…realizing that agreeing to disagree is not a sign of weakness but rather an important step into adulthood.

I am one lucky dad.  

Happy Father’s Day, all. 

(and to Colour, should you ever read this, you will understand more than anyone…Peace, my friend)

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ender @1.2.2    one month ago
I was always taught to not want to be anyone else.

I think that is why the question wasn't "Would you rather be black than white?". She asks "who would be happy to be treated as this society, in general, treats our black citizens".

You are given the cards you are. It is how you play your hand.

I guess in context the question would be, would you be happy if you knew you were being intentionally dealt bad cards from the bottom of the deck? Obviously, all isn't fair, we're not all dealt the same cards no matter what our skin color, and our only option has been to play the hand dealt. But if some people are dealt cards from a full deck and others dealt cards from a deck that only has 2's, 3's and 4's, I could understand why those in the audience wouldn't want the cards from the shit deck, or would choose to keep the cards they received from a stacked deck of only face cards. While anyone can turn whatever cards they are dealt into something they can find fulfilling and successful with enough work, historically black Americans weren't even allowed a chance at some cards (aka opportunities). And in some cases even when they worked hard and clawed their way up from the bottom they had their cards taken away from them as we saw happen to Tulsa's black wall street back in 1921.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

Oooh, she really knew how to get to the truth, didn't she.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  author  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    one month ago

I imagine the tension in that room was palpable.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.1  Dulay  replied to  JBB @2.1    one month ago

You need not imagine, here's a video:

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    one month ago

she just used the black door....

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3  Thrawn 31    one month ago

Yeah, no. Of course I also readily admit that the country and its institutions originally were designed to exclude if not outright oppress blacks in the US. We have made progress but that type of thing doesn’t disappear overnight. Still a lot of work to be done at it starts with admitting that there is still a problem.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1  author  JBB  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3    one month ago

Anyone denying it does not have a black friend.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @3.1    one month ago

How many real black friends do you have?

 
 
 
JBB
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4  author  JBB    one month ago

original

 
 
 
JBB
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5  author  JBB    one month ago

original

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5    one month ago

Truer words not spoken recently...........

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"....people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as racists"

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    one month ago

I call people racist when they openly say racist shit. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    one month ago

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.1.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Kavika @5.1.2    one month ago

smart man

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @5.1.2    one month ago

We also know what words Mr. Johnson was famous for. Something about voting Democrat for 200 years

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.4    one month ago

I certainly do know those words, and you are free to post them to try to support your POV. 

You could even post the words of ''Catfish Cole'' as the KKK was run out of Robeson county NC and it's wasn't white folks that ran his cowardly ass out of Robeson county. I believe that is your home state is it not?

 
 
 
exexpatnowinva
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5.1.7  exexpatnowinva  replied to  Kavika @5.1.2    one month ago
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

And the Democrats use that every day.   One day, the left will learn how much abuse they have suffered thanks to the Democrats pandering and lies.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  exexpatnowinva @5.1.7    one month ago

Man, if I am being abused then bring on more of it.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.9  Kavika   replied to  exexpatnowinva @5.1.7    one month ago

How much abuse have the left suffered because of the so-called pandering and lies of the dems?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @5.1.9    one month ago
How much abuse have the left suffered because of the so-called pandering and lies of the dems?

Therein lies the rub. They don't know what they don't know. jrSmiley_34_smiley_image.gif  

Where is that sheep emoji?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.10    one month ago

How about an answer to Kavika's question?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.11    one month ago

They don't know what they don't know. I am not of the left persuasion so I have no personal point of reference. Guess you missed the sheep reference? It doesn't matter as is shown daily here, they will follow no matter where they are led.

But I could point out one. How about the old "build me up just to let me down" that minorities suffer at every election cycle? And it isn't just the dems so the only difference is, conservatives KNOW if they are being bullshitted for political gain.

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.12    one month ago
But I could point out one. How about the old "build me up just to let me down" that minorities suffer at every election cycle? And it isn't just the dems so the only difference is, conservatives KNOW if they are being bullshitted for political gain.

So your posit is that minorities don't KNOW they are being bullshitted for political gain. Why is it that they don't KNOW after suffering at 'every election cycle' Jim? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @5.1.13    one month ago

What don't you understand about "build me up just to let me down"? It's all about perceived promises and future expectations. And a LOT of people, if we are so inclined, fall for that bullshit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.12    one month ago

So if you aren't of the left persuasion and have no personal point of reference, can we say you don't know what you don't know? 

Let's talk sheep. I like Southdowns myself

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.15    one month ago

see 5.1.14 I am not saying it's exclusive to dems just that dems are more apt to not notice. As my friend Hallux used to say (and in the old NV days it was his moniker) "Ideology spoils the view"

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.17  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.14    one month ago

"So inclined" to WHAT Jim? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.1.18  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.16    one month ago
I am not saying it's exclusive to dems just that dems are more apt to not notice.

Actually Jim, as 'our readers' can all see, you didn't say 'dems', you said 'minorities'. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Principal
5.1.19  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.16    one month ago
"Ideology spoils the view"

He was an arsehole before he became another arsehole named BlackcatWhitecat ... and the beat goes on.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.20  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.10    one month ago

Non answer, no surprise there

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @5.1.20    one month ago

Don't stop there. Read on.....................

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @5.1.17    one month ago

So inclined to believe the political campaigning bullshit. McFly???

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @5.1.18    one month ago

Actually Dulay as our readers can see, I chose to switch gears as several of you claim that minorities vote dem because it is in their "best interest" to do so. So why not be all inclusive to non-minority fools who follow the same path?

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.24  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.21    one month ago

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Dulay
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5.1.25  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.23    one month ago
Actually Dulay as our readers can see, I chose to switch gears as several of you claim that minorities vote dem because it is in their "best interest" to do so.

As 'our readers' can see, you didn't 'switch gears' at all, you merely misrepresented your original statement. 

So why not be all inclusive to non-minority fools who follow the same path?

Do they 'not notice' every election cycle or are they following a path every election cycle Jim? Pick one...

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Principal
5.1.26  Raven Wing  replied to  Dulay @5.1.25    one month ago
Do they 'not notice' every election cycle or are they following a path every election cycle Jim? Pick one...

Hey Dulay...you are asking a lot from him.....if he had to pick one he would just deflect, derail and change the subject as usual.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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5.1.27  r.t..b...  replied to  Hallux @5.1.19    one month ago

“BlackcatWhitecat”

ah, old Mephistopheles…let the eloquence continue. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Principal
5.1.28  Hallux  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1.27    one month ago

I need to watch the movie again.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
5.1.29  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    one month ago

and every one who voted this comment up should look up Tom Sowell

a 93 year old conservative professor at Stanford who never met a black person or family he liked

He could have made this quote 70 years ago when he had a love affair with Marxism

before he figured out how to make $$ as a controversial and hateful extremist author.

Of course late in his life he discovered

Thomas Sowell: Common For Poor Immigrants To Make New Country Richer

Thomas Sowell: Common For Poor Immigrants To Make New Country Richer (forbes.com)

Good job !

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Principal
5.1.30  Raven Wing  replied to  Dulay @5.1.13    one month ago
So your posit is that minorities don't KNOW they are being bullshitted for political gain.

Sure they know it. The minorities of today are far more knowledgeable and better educated than their Grandparents were. They know when they are being short changed and taken advantage of. That is why more of them are speaking up, and aware of the BS that is fed to them by the Trump supporters, and the threats by the likes of the Proud Boys, neo-Nazies and other extremists. And that's why more of the minorities are voting for the Democrats and/or Independents. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JBB @5    one month ago

384

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.2.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2    one month ago

I don’t think that shocked anyone.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.2  bugsy  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2    one month ago

You see 1st, you are now labeled a racist by most of the left on here just because you posted that.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.2.2    one month ago

Where do you see that bugsy? Only ONE member besides you has replied to 1st and that comment didn't label anyone. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @5.2.2    one month ago
You see 1st, you are now labeled a racist by most of the left on here just because you posted that.

I completely agree with 1st and gave it a thumbs up. Just disagreeing with Democrats or Republicans doesn't make you racist or "antifa" or any of the other assumptions some within the parties might assume. And talking about racism and bringing up the inequities we still find in our society doesn't make you a racist either. And teaching our kids about slavery, segregation, Jim Crow laws and the continued legacy of racism doesn't make you racist. Calling Mexicans even if they entered our country illegally "rapists" is racist. Calling majority black cities "rat infested" or African countries "shitholes" is racist. Flying a swastika or a confederate flag or chanting "Jews will not replace us!" is racist. Taking data on voting patterns by race and drafting voting laws that the courts found targeted "African-Americans with almost surgical precision," is racist.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @5.2.3    one month ago
Where do you see that bugsy?

I don't have to "see" anything. I know the mindset of most of the liberals on here.

It's not kind to anyone that does not toe the liberal line.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.2.5    one month ago
I don't have to "see" anything.

Well you sure as fuck wanted 1st to 'see' something bugsy. 

NO ONE on the left labeled 1st a racist. You fabricated it. 

I know the mindset of most of the liberals on here.

The only 'mindset' that your comment exposed is your own bugsy. 

It's not kind to anyone that does not toe the liberal line.

Your comment was triggered by a fantasy. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Principal
5.2.7  Raven Wing  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.2.4    one month ago

1st has never appeared to me as being a racist. Being treated unfairly by racists is closer to the truth. And there are those here on NT who are award winning racists and proud of it. But, 1st is not one of them.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Expert
5.2.8  1stwarrior  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.2.1    one month ago

Maybe not - but so very, very few seem to be unable to separate the two.

Sad.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Expert
5.2.9  1stwarrior  replied to  bugsy @5.2.2    one month ago

Thank you Raven and Dulay for your opinion.

Racist?  Nah - don't think so.  Most people know what/who I am, and racist ain't it :-)

But, then, you knew that already, right?

Tell you what I am - according to my wife, pig-headed, stubborn, pain-in-the-azz, azzhole 24/7/365 but a very consistent azzhole, law school grad (but NOT an attorney), former Marine, former Coastie, former DoD employee, firm believer in equal opportunity for all, pathetic, abject golfer (14 handicap), Harley rider, former SCCA driver - basically an all around individual who believes everyone should be given a fair and even chance and also that everyone has good in them regardless of how they act. 

You're my friend?  I'll fight to protect you/your beliefs 'til I'm too wounded to continue - which don't happen.

Can a person who abhors the "European Conquest" of his people be racist?  Not really 'cause not all Euro's wanted to wipe us out - some helped us - but not enough.  However, we can totally get pizzed at the political systems of the 14, 15, 16, 17, 1800's where we, American Indians, were as useless as teats on a boar hog to them unless they wanted our lands, societies, traditions, cultures and heritages to be eradicated.  Today's politicians aren't much different - just not as obvious.

That's what/who I am.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.2.10  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @5.2.6    one month ago

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1stwarrior
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5.2.11  1stwarrior  replied to  Raven Wing @5.2.7    one month ago

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pat wilson
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5.2.12  pat wilson  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.9    one month ago
That's what/who I am.

And cat lover, smile.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Principal
5.2.13  Raven Wing  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.12    one month ago
And cat lover, smile.

Indeed he is. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Expert
5.2.14  1stwarrior  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.12    one month ago

Silly me - forgot my 10 cats plus the little babe who'll be here in 30 days :-)

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Meet Stormy - MC.

 
 
 
shona1
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5.2.15  shona1  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.14    one month ago

Evening 1st... looks an unusual breed of kitty?? Is that the case or does she just have unusual colouring?? Think she has landed on her paws at your home...

 
 
 
shona1
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5.2.16  shona1  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.9    one month ago

Evening 1st..and you sound bloody good to me from over this side of the Pacific.

At the end of the day it is each to their own. For me I don't care where you come from, what colour you are and least of all who you bloody vote for. Why people get so hung up on pig trough pollies, I will never know. They are a necessary evil, but to waste brain cells on them.. truly astounds me.

There are so much better things to do and see in life than waste one second on them. 

We are told the USA is the world's greatest democracy..What we see is a country hung up on what colour you are and who in the hell you voted for and when is the next bloody election!!!!

We have it here to but no where near as bad. It drives me up the wall with the crap I get, so you mob have my sympathy.

Well I am off to bed..my cat is already on it...they don't care who you are or who you vote for..

They just want you to keep their dishes full...and not the cheap crap either or there is a hunger strike...Then you get worried and take them to the vet..$200 later they come home and hog into the food..

I think I have been taken for a ride...Just like friggin Politicians do...hoo too for now..😸😸😸

 
 
 
shona1
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5.2.17  shona1  replied to  shona1 @5.2.16    one month ago

Opps...hoo roo that should be means see ya later..

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.2.18  1stwarrior  replied to  shona1 @5.2.15    one month ago

Hey Shona - yes'm - she's a Maine Coon with "Smoked" coloring.  When she gets older, she'll be black, grey and white.  She already has a big brother named Wessy - 384

who's 5 months old and weighs 10.2 pounds.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.2.19  1stwarrior  replied to  shona1 @5.2.16    one month ago

The media and their friends have to make money, so they flood the airways/paper pages with crap 'bout color, political backstabbing, stealing elections and pure out and out lies - to keep the division going.

Glad I gave up drinking :-)

 
 
 
shona1
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5.2.20  shona1  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.18    one month ago

Morning 1st...would love to see more photos as Stormy grows...her name will certainly suit her by her colours. Wessy is very handsome. We have Maine Coons here as well very popular cats. Mishka my puss is a Ragdoll but you would not know it. Speaking of which it is now bellowing because she wants her breakfast..Enjoy your evening as a new day starts here...😸😸😸

 
 
 
pat wilson
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5.2.21  pat wilson  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.14    one month ago

Beautiful !

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Expert
5.2.22  1stwarrior  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.21    one month ago

Thank you Pat - getting really excited :-)

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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5.2.23  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.9    one month ago
Can a person who abhors the "European Conquest" of his people be racist?  Not really 'cause not all Euro's wanted to wipe us out - some helped us - but not enough.  However, we can totally get pizzed at the political systems of the 14, 15, 16, 17, 1800's where we, American Indians, were as useless as teats on a boar hog to them unless they wanted our lands, societies, traditions, cultures and heritages to be eradicated.  Today's politicians aren't much different - just not as obvious.

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MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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5.2.24  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  shona1 @5.2.16    one month ago
We are told the USA is the world's greatest democracy.. What we see is a country hung up on what colour you are and who in the hell you voted for and when is the next bloody election!!!!

Exactly. jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.2.25  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.14    one month ago

Stormy is so cute, especially with those eyebrows.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.2.26  1stwarrior  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.2.25    one month ago

This is what we are "hoping" she'll turn out to be - 

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Little gorgeous baby girl :-)jrSmiley_94_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
5.2.27  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.26    one month ago

Please keep us posted once Stormy grows.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5    one month ago

Um, the words on the t-shirt are photo shopped. It's very obvious.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Principal
6  Hallux    one month ago

If I could look and dance like Paula Abdul, sign me up.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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6.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Hallux @6    one month ago

same ole

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1    one month ago

It never changes Iggy. They can't get their lips off Trumps behind long enough to have an intelligent thought.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Principal
6.1.2  Hallux  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1    one month ago

?

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Raven Wing @6.1.1    one month ago
They can't get their lips off Trumps behind long enough to have an intelligent th

Um, you are the one that brought up Trump.

Which makes your post an unintelligent thought.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Principal
6.1.4  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @6.1.3    one month ago

Pfft! I brought up Paula Abdul. That alone can set a flock of tap shoes helter skelter.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Expert
6.1.5  1stwarrior  replied to  Hallux @6.1.4    one month ago

And what a subject she be - wow - have luv'd her since I first saw her on "The Jackson's" show.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Participates
6.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @6.1.4    one month ago

Not me. Never really though of her as something special.

 
 
 
Hallux
Freshman Principal
6.1.7  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @6.1.6    one month ago

I'm guessing the feeling would be mutual.

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Participates
6.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @6.1.7    one month ago

Meh...Not trying to impress anyone.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
6.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Hallux @6    one month ago

Hallie Berry for me and I don't care if she can dance or not.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
7  Hal A. Lujah    one month ago

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Ender
Professor Principal
8  Ender    one month ago

In a way I almost think that articles like this are a little degrading to Black people.

Not meaning you JBB. kinda mean the woman in the vid though.

Saying no one would ever want to be a Black person is kind of demeaning.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
8.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Ender @8    one month ago

Saying no one would ever want to be a Black person is kind of demeaning.

It is a bit of a conundrum.  Paul Mooney explains it in the short video below.  “Everybody wannna be a ****** but nobody wanna be a ******.”

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Ender  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.1    one month ago

That was good.  Haha

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
8.2  Dulay  replied to  Ender @8    one month ago
Saying no one would ever want to be a Black person is kind of demeaning.

Read what she said again. She said "to be TREATED". It's a totally different concept. 

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Quiet
9  Trotsky's Spectre    one month ago

This isn't going to please everyone. I can't help that.

The question as it stands is sincere and has a point; it is also somewhat hypothetical in that we can't crawl into someone else's skin.

That said -- I sired and raised four daughters [and had my own bathroom]. One ran with a Chinese guy, another with a Mediterranean guy, and one with an African American. Of the four, one is hitched to a guy who looks even remotely like me. Love them all. And grand-kids? Same thing. Multi-ethnic, multi-racial, we're all family. Most are United States citizens. Some are bi-nationals. So far as I'm concerned, if our being American is not good enough for you, you have no place in my family, and you are not welcome in any of my residences.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Masters Participates
9.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @9    one month ago
This isn't going to please everyone.

all i needed to read to vote the fck up

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
10  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)    one month ago

I had a conversation with my female, black therapist about this topic specifically. She was the one that told me about this question. I told her that I would have no problem with trading places for a bit. Why? I cannot learn about what happens in various scenarios of life if I have not had to live that life. She was surprised by my answer. I went further to explain that, while I know I can't really understand what it's like to be a black person in society, I've worked in "manland" since the age of 16 as a woman. I know when I'm being discriminated against. I know when someone has a specific assumption about me simply because of my gender. I've dealt with not getting a job because of sexist thoughts. I've dealt with a lot of verbal, sexual, mental, emotional, and physical abuse because of being a woman in a male-dominated field. It's a lot better than it used to be, but trust me, it still exists.

I think that minority females have it the most difficult in this world. My therapist agreed and said that the closest to understanding how black people feel in many situations is for a woman to work in a male-dominated field, regardless of color. It made me tougher. It made me want to prove those assholes wrong and make them feel like a heel. I've gained a lot of respect from people doing that. It's also made me brutally honest; makes me ask the typically difficult questions, even if I know the answer likely to be given vs. reality.

When I was 18, I worked for a local Pep Boys. One evening, I was the only parts person at the counter, because it was only an hour before closing. A guy named Frank called and this is how the conversation went:

Frank: Parts department please.

Me: You've got it.

Frank: I want to speak to someone with a beard.

Me: How do you know I don't have one?

Frank: Okay smart ass. I came in and bought a new TFI module and my car still isn't starting.

Me: Did we test the old one?

Frank: Yes and it tested bad.

Me: Did we test the new one?

Frank: Yes and it tested good.

Me: How much of the dielectric grease packet did you use on that module?

Frank: The whole thing.

Me: Wipe about half of it off, evenly distribute it, making sure it's a THIN coat and reinstall.

Frank: It will take me about 2 minutes. You're staying on the phone.

Me: Okay. 

Frank: .... 

**I hear the car start.

Frank: You were right. I'll be damned. 

Me: Glad a girl could help. Maybe next time, you won't make assumptions. 

Frank: You got me there.

Frank followed me to the next auto parts store that I went and worked at for a while. I had conversations like that quite often. Guys assumed that because I had boobs and a vagina, it somehow made it so I could never know anything about mechanical things. I had really good coworkers too... if they caught on that a dude was being a sexist douche, they would specifically say, "Hang on, let me ask someone that knows about this better than me," and they would bring me over and let me answer the tool bag. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

That was a mild and polite interaction. Most didn't go quite that nicely.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1  author  JBB  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @10    one month ago

As a man who spent a long career working for a huge multinational corporation I can testify that there is still a whole lot of straight up racism, sexism, homophobia and religious/cultural bias expresses and acted upon behind the closed doors of many board rooms and private clubs. It is less open now, of course, but it is still tolerated and even expected within many male dominated businesses and industries. My former company had hundreds of male representatives out in the field doing sales, finance and factory service but only hired their first two female sales representative (both white) a couple of years ago. As far as I know there are still no women hired as outside service representatives. 

On a side note, my nephew married a brilliant highly educated classy young black woman and it brings him to tears seeing the blatantly different ways she is treated by servers and retail workers than he is. Mind you, she has a master degree in nursing and was raised in an upper class black Chicago family. It breaks his heart how much abuse she endures from people who have no right to act superior to her. 

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
10.1.1  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  JBB @10.1    one month ago
It breaks his heart how much abuse she endures from people who have no right to act superior to her. 

Oh definitely. That's why I love my conversations with my therapist. I learn a lot from her.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
10.2  Split Personality  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @10    one month ago

True story.

Man calls on a Friday before July 4th weekend asking about individual Baracuda letters for a fastback deck lid.

I tell him they've been discontinued for decades -  try car shows like New Hope & Carlisle.

He says something derogatory and hangs up..

He calls back some time letter and I hear my friend Carl talking to him and telling him that one or two letters might be available from nos collectors.  The guy says I'll be right over and leave a deposit to cover your time.

Back door opens and I hear the guy ask Carl for Carl.

They stand there staring at each other.

Carl points to the name on his uniform.

The guy says, no, no offense, but I was clearly talking to a white guy name Carl and I don't want to repeat myself.

( Spoiler Alert, my name is not Carl )

Carl insists that he is indeed the only Carl.

White man insists that he spoke to someone else who sounds different on the phone, like a white person....

He tells Carl to "go find the other Carl".

Carl surrenders, hands up, and walks around the corner to my office, smiling.

He asks me to come out and talk to our customer.

I come out ( maybe I was grinning ).

Customer says "Carl? Was I talking to you about these letters"?

Well, my name is not Carl, pointing to my nameplate

and yes we did talk much earlier about these letters and I told you to go to Carlisle

and you told me to go to hell.

We three are now standing and staring at each other.

He says, I want your names, you haven't heard the last of me

I'm going straight to the showroom with this.

Carl says "You first".

Customer says "WHAT?"

Carl says "Your name first?"

Customer shouts "BILL TWIST" and spells it "T W I S  T !!!"

Carl screws up his face and starts contorting his limbs around while asking "Like a pretzel"?

I said "no, considering the age of the car I think he means the dance by Chubby Checker"

Mr. Twist leaves, slamming the door as hard as he can.

It's 4:59PM EST on a holiday weekend.

Carl and his large Afro leap the counter and locks the door in one swift motion like a true black super hero would.

30 seconds later the lights are all off, the fire doors are all locked

and we are on our way to a 3 day weekend, lol.

Never thought of it till a few weeks later when the GM said he heard I was a Chubby Checker fan, lol

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Quiet
10.2.1  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Split Personality @10.2    one month ago

LOL! This must be the greatest routine since 'whose on first!'

ROTFLMAOPIMP!

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
10.2.2  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Split Personality @10.2    one month ago

That's AWESOME!

When I was an assistant manager at a local shop, I had a guy come in and demand to speak with a man. I said, "I sent them home. They had no idea what they were doing." Then he demanded to speak with a manager. I said, "That's me." He got so pissed and started shouting... my boss was actually just on the other side of the door, where he heard everything [and he was a hot head and a big guy] where we kept tires and a small parts stock; he had just returned from lunch. He burst through the door and told the guy that if he can't be respectful and understand that I was the manager on staff that day, that he could just take his "happy ass" right out that door and not return. 

The guys in the shop would stick up for me too if they knew a customer was being rude or sexist.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
Professor Guide
11  Freedom Warrior    one month ago

More phony nonsense.  The minute you start dividing people by race you become a racist. 

Try looking at people as individuals and maybe you'll start to get a fucking clue.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
11.1  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @11    one month ago
The minute you start dividing people by race you become a racist. 

Oh please do explain HOW inviting people to be treated as they have witnessed others be treated divides them by race?

What is ACTUALLY does is to get people to recognize that they KNOW that black people are treated disparately and they don't want to be treated that way themselves. 

That doesn't 'divide' people, it causes them to either open themselves to expressing empathy or to admit their privilege, at least to themselves...