Hours before campaign announcement Trump tells supporters "this day will be remembered forever".

  
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Hours before campaign announcement Trump tells supporters "this day will be remembered forever".
These MAGA have really short memories when it comes to their hero and his mountainous flaws.  -

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This is what you get - Donald Trump trying rub everyone's nose in it, mocking the derision he received after telling the violent MAGA mob of Jan 6 to "remember this day forever" by repeating the phrase today in an email to supporters.


“Joe Biden has ruined our once great Nation. I’m determined to SAVE AMERICA,” Trump told would-be donors by email hours before his announcement from his Mar-a-Lago estate. “This day will be remembered FOREVER.”
Trump announcement of 2024 comeback bid will spark resistance but thrill Republican base (msn.com)

I will believe Trump is in the rear view mirror when his supporters run him out of town , and not before. We have seen this movie before. They say the love affair is over this time , and then as soon as he attacks Pelosi or Obama or Biden they hop back on board. These MAGA have really short memories when it comes to their hero and his mountainous flaws. 

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Trump announcement of 2024 comeback bid will spark resistance but thrill Republican base


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W ASHINGTON – Donald Trump, poised to launch a comeback bid Tuesday night, will start the 2024 campaign as a divisive but formidable front-runner – buoyed by unshakable support from the base and resisted by a sizeable number of party insiders.

Twice impeached and still refusing to acknowledge that he only won the White House once, the ex-president has led the hypothetical GOP field for months.

“Joe Biden has ruined our once great Nation. I’m determined to SAVE AMERICA,” Trump told would-be donors by email hours before his announcement from his Mar-a-Lago estate. “This day will be remembered FOREVER.”

Trump remains a solid favorite of the Republican base. In a crowded primary field, his plurality support – around 40% – could be enough to pick off rivals one by one as he did in 2016, until Sen. Ted Cruz was the last serious obstacle.

But some GOP strategists – and potential rivals – cast him as a serial loser whose refusal to acknowledge his 2020 defeat cast a pall over the midterms, and whose nomination would lead them to yet another avoidable defeat in 2024.

“Trump is dragging the party down,” Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor and erstwhile Trump adviser and defender, said on ABC’s This Week. “He said we were going to do so much winning that we would ask him to stop winning. Well, in 2018 we lost the House. In 2020 we lost the Senate. In 2021 we lost two Senate seats in Georgia that we should have won. And in 2022 we performed under historic norms for what was going on in this country and for being the party out of power.

“That’s a lot of losing,” Christie said.

Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s 2016 campaign manager and senior White House adviser, told reporters in Washington this month that Trump sees himself as the strongest nominee to keep Biden from a second term. And he’s “sad and disappointed and frustrated” at setbacks since he left office on energy independence, inflation, border security, Russia, Iran and trade policy.

“Everyday life is increasingly unaffordable. So Donald Trump feels I did it the first time, I can do it again,” she said.

Actively campaigning for president won’t shield Trump from any of the numerous investigations, including the Justice Department’s probe into why he had reams of official documents, including classified material, at his Florida estate that by law belonged with the National Archives once he left office.

But he will be able to more easily make the case that such investigations are politically motivated.

Pence: ‘Better choices’


Trump’s own vice president, Mike Pence, issued one of the most scathing, if understated, critiques of a comeback bid in an interview released Tuesday with ABC’s David Muir: “That’s up to the American people. But I think we’ll have better choices.”

Trump’s own vice president, Mike Pence, issued one of the most scathing, if understated, critiques of a comeback bid in an interview released Tuesday with ABC’s David Muir: “That’s up to the American people. But I think we’ll have better choices.”

At the U.S. Capitol, there was no huge hue and cry for a Trump comeback.

“I’ll support the Republican nominee, but I don’t know that it will be him,” Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who typically keeps his head down in contested primaries, told reporters Tuesday.

Roughly two dozen Republicans have been testing the waters for 2024.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is the leading alternative, with roughly half the support Trump registers in polls of GOP voters. That’s enough for Trump to slap a mocking if unexplained nickname on him – “Ron DeSanctimonious” – and to accuse him of lacking “loyalty and class” by toying with a run despite the help Trump had given him previously.

“If DeSantis and Trump both file, there won’t be much room for anybody else. They’re both such phenomenal candidates,” said Jennifer Stoddard Hajdu, the Dallas County GOP chair. “DeSantis is the one person I see that could attract the Trump supporters.”

She brushed off the carping on Trump over the midterms, blaming backlash on abortion as a much bigger factor.

“Trump’s policies are some of the best that we’ve had in any Republican administration in current memory,” she said. “I love Trump. I think he’s fantastic.”

Not all Texas Republicans are fans.

“Biden is a disaster. But Trump would be a worse disaster…. He’s a narcissistic, pathologically lying, delusional buffoon,” said Jerry Patterson, a three term land commissioner, adding on a practical level for Republicans that “every high profile race he got involved in was a disaster.”

Trump wasn’t the best or worst president, he said. “But he was the worst person to ever hold the office. And the irony of it now is there’s only one person Trump can beat. And that’s Biden. And there’s only one person Biden can beat and that’s Trump. That’s a race to the bottom.”

Will Hurd, a former GOP congressman from San Antonio, tweeted that the midterms showed that Trump is “a sunken ship, and entertaining his candidacy should be an easy pass for the GOP. America needs us to do better.

No red wave


Trump teased a presidential run for weeks in the runup to the midterms, starting when pundits, pollsters and strategists were still predicting a “red wave.”

The wave never materialized but Trump has forged ahead, inviting congressional allies and other VIPs to his Florida estate for the rollout.

In 2015, he and the future first lady Melania Trump descended a golden escalator at Trump Tower in New York for his launch.

That campaign, too, shook up the Republican Party.

Rivals, especially conservatives, initially dismissed him as a crude-mouthed, irreligious philanderer with little to offer besides celebrity and questionable business bona fides. He’d supported abortion rights and gay marriage. He’d been twice divorced.

Despite all that, Trump shoved aside one rival after another. Rick Perry, Texas’ longest serving governor, was an early casualty.

As president he delivered for the right “bigly,” as he liked to say.

He focused on building a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border, and has vowed to finish it if he gets another chance. The migrant crisis that has erupted under President Joe Biden has given Trump plenty of attack fodder.

He filled three Supreme Court vacancies, shifting the high court so dramatically to the right that it overturned Roe vs. Wade in June, ensuring Trump’s enduring affection among social conservatives who once had doubted him.

While Democrats have no desire to see Trump back in the White House, some are not entirely averse to seeing him prolong the GOP civil war. Many see him as relatively easy to beat in 2024, just as many of his election-denying acolytes fell in the midterms.

“This is a person who has undermined the integrity of our elections, has not honored his oath of office,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Sunday on ABC’s This Week. “He’s not been a force for good. So, I don’t think his candidacy is a force for good for our country. But that’s up to the Republicans to decide.”

Any number of Republicans view Trump as a loser in 2024.

“We all know he will lose,” former Speaker Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the GOP nominee for vice president in 2012,   said in a recent podcast   for the advisory firm where he works. “Or let me put it this way: We all know he’s much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle.”

As for Pence, Trump’s fiercely loyal vice president now says he’s “prayerfully” weighing his own 2024 bid. He’s been using a book tour to amplify denunciations for Trump trying to overturn their defeat, and stoking the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on Congress as Pence presided over the joint session convened to formalize Biden’s election.

“It was clear he decided to be part of the problem,” Pence told ABC’s Muir. As to whether he could defeat Trump, he said: “That would be for others to say, and it’d be for us to decide whether or not we’d want to test that.”




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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

remember this forever asshole

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squiggy
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2  squiggy    3 weeks ago

Biden is so beatable, Trump really isn't essential.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1  TᵢG  replied to  squiggy @2    3 weeks ago

If Trump is nominated (not likely IMO), would you vote for him to be PotUS?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    3 weeks ago

Over Brandon the human fuck up machine? In a heat beat.

Democrats stayed in power- they own their fuck ups now. They can't escape what they have done to this country.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.2  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    3 weeks ago

Would you vote for Biden?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

It's amazing that the fascist traitor Trump still has any supporters.

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.4  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Amazes me the right wing thinks the country is destroyed.

Go tell that bullshit to all the people shopping and eating out, going to the movies...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    3 weeks ago

I think its highly likely Trump wins the GOP nomination. All the majority of GOP voters want is someone who can "own the libs", even if the person doing the so-called owning is a demented buffoon. 

DeSantis cant do that and so he will eventually get trampled. 

Probably good news for the Democrats though. The majority of all voters is on to Trump's crap at this point. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  Ender @2.1.4    3 weeks ago

It's hard to know if those who are caught up in the right wing bubble actually believe their own B.S. or just hope that normal people will fall for it.

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.7  Ender  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.6    3 weeks ago

It just amazes me. They are all attacking McConnell and saying they cannot go back and must go forward.

Doing the same things that voters rejected.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.8  Gsquared  replied to  Ender @2.1.7    3 weeks ago

Doing the same things that the voters are going to continue to reject.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

Generally, no.    If Trump gets the R nomination and Biden gets the D nomination then I would to stop Trump.    Would you vote for Trump?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    3 weeks ago
I think its highly likely Trump wins the GOP nomination.

We have yet to measure the effect the midterm failure will have on the GoP.   It depends upon the future strength of the MAGA contingent and the will of the rational members of the party.   Left unchanged, Trump will indeed win the nomination since he needs only a plurality of the votes to do so.   

If the GoP has NOT been shocked into change by the midterm failure, then here is the scenario:

  • Trump wins the GoP nomination.
  • Biden is invigorated to run again because he will surely win against Trump in the general.
  • We get four more years of Biden.

To wit, if the GoP does not stop Trump from winning the nomination, we are all stuck with four more years of Biden.    Far better than Trump but far worse than what this nation needs.

The other looming factors are potential criminal indictments of Trump.   Will these all disappear now that Trump is a candidate?   Would not surprise me a bit.

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.11  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    3 weeks ago

There is no top contender I like.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.12  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.9    3 weeks ago
Generally, no.
 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.12    3 weeks ago

You quoted me.   Is that your answer?   That there are conditions under which you would vote for Trump?

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.14  CB   replied to  Ender @2.1.4    3 weeks ago

The Right is gripingly jealous of your liberties and freedom! Apparently, the Right really, truly, deeply believed young girls and grown women of child-bearing ages were looking for a 'father figure' dressed in red political attire to come in and take charge of the female 'dilemma.'  Not the case—evidently.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.15  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

Generally,  no.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.16  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.1.15    3 weeks ago

Under what conditions would you vote for Trump?

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.17  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.16    3 weeks ago

Duress...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.18  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @2.1.4    3 weeks ago
Amazes me the right wing thinks the country is destroyed. Go tell that bullshit to all the people shopping and eating out, going to the movies...

That's a completely fair point.

Does it also amaze you when the left wing makes ridiculous claims?

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.19  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.18    3 weeks ago

What amazes me is when people make ridiculous claims over and over.

What bothers me is taking the direction of calling half the country your enemy and claiming they are willingly destroying their way of life...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.21  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @2.1.19    3 weeks ago

I'd agree with all of that.

It's something we all need to be careful about.

 
 
 
Ender
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2.1.22  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.21    3 weeks ago

I think that was a big referendum about the midterms. People want stability.

I just don't really see all the hatred and division that seems to be pushed. For the most part, maybe it is my area, people get along. No one wants to change how anyone else lives.

The occasional idiot spouting off but rather, generally, not that bad.

Biden disappointed me on that front.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.23  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    3 weeks ago

I can categorically state that I will not vote for Trump if he is nominated. I will vote for DeSantis if he is nominated before voting for Trump. And if DeSantis is not nominated, I will vote third party before I'd vote for Biden. Did that in 2020.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1.23    3 weeks ago

I already had you in my rational category, but it is nice to get the confirmation.    For me there is no circumstance —short of every candidate in every party being worse than Trump (impossible)— that I would vote for Trump.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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2.1.25  Sunshine  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1.23    3 weeks ago
 I will vote third party before I'd vote for Biden. Did that in 2020.

Me too, look what we got...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.24    3 weeks ago

You could hold a 45 to my temple and I would tell you to make sure your aim is true

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  Sunshine @2.1.25    3 weeks ago

We had no good choice.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

And claim that President Biden and the Democrats are the fuck ups.

Also claims we're fascists with every other comment

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Gsquared
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2.1.29  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.28    3 weeks ago

It's about as weird as it gets, but we just have to remember that shit comes from hardcore extremist reactionary propagandists with tenuous links to reality.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

Maybe the day will be remembered because Trump went back on all his prior comments about DeSantis and will announce that he's going to endorse him.  That could be the "kiss of death" for DeSantis.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    3 weeks ago

But of course his narcissism would dictate other than my suggestion - how naive of me.  Oh how the dollars will roll in for him now - he can rely on the ignorance of his supporters.  His first hurdle will be to get the nomination to be the Republican candidate, and let's see if those who do the nominating will fit my description as well.  I think they are going to be faced with a quandary.  If they nominate him they will have nominated the person who has just been proven the "kiss of death" for the Republicans, and if they nominate DeSantis, Trump will probably form his own third party and fight both the Democrat and Republican candidates, splitting the conservative vote and assuring a Democrat win even if it IS "Sleepy Joe".   Oh, I hope I live long enough to watch this circus. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.1  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    3 weeks ago

Must be nice watching it from afar.   Haha

I am not happy having to listen to trump spout off in his awful voice for another two years.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.2  CB   replied to  Ender @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

And so it begins anew: Bright and early Donald shall soon launch withering attacks meant to go viral against his fellow 'wannabes' from his Mara Lago on-board launcher. Get ready. Get ready. Get ready. It will be 'breathless.' And before long Donald will be 'hoarse' and his future opposers "shocked and awed!"

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    3 weeks ago
Oh how the dollars will roll in for him now - he can rely on the ignorance of his supporters. 

Apparently the mega donors are lining up behind DeSantis and Youngkin. At least that's what CNBC says.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.4  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

I think the only one Joe wins against is trump. Anyone else and he is toast.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Ender @3.1.4    3 weeks ago

Considering the likely candidates, you are likely correct.    The nominee of the GoP, if not Trump, would have found a way to bring the GoP together (to at least a plurality bigger than Trump's).  That would be a significant accomplishment and would suggest a personality who could compete in the general.   Trump, in contrast, will never win the general election.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
I think the only one Joe wins against is trump. Anyone else and he is toast.

In normal times, I would agree.

But I'm not sure he can even beat Trump again.  

I think there are several candidates better than either of the old guys.  I also think their ages make a much bigger difference than they did in 2020.

Big donors are going to want the stability you were talking about.  It's going to be a lot harder for Trump to raise money than it was 8 years ago.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Kelly Ann Conway was asked to comment on Trump attacking DeSantis and vice versa . 

Her reply -  we have two great candidates. 

She isnt throwing Trump under the bus, none of them will. 

 
 
 
CB
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4.1  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

I could be wrong on this, but didn't she literally depart the Trump Administration to go 'repair' the PTSD in her family due to Trump and his histronics affecting her loved ones?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  CB @4.1    3 weeks ago

something like that

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

"Ms. Anne's" family nearly imploded over Donald's and Kelly-Anne's lust for power - Donald appeared to care less about it!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

That’s because she doesn’t have TDS.

Let the process play out no matter what the haters say.  

What a concept eh? 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago
She isnt throwing Trump under the bus, none of them will. 

She doesn't have to.

Trump is going to jump under the bus head first.  He can't help it.  Just give him a minute.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @4.3    3 weeks ago

Adding to your thought ...

The dynamics at play in 2016 were very different from those in effect today.   Trump is now a known political character.   Just like Obama's changer-uniter halo of  2008, Trump had his anti-politician halo in 2016.   Both tarnished quickly.   Trump lost that halo and then piled on with his incessant lying in office, his Big Lie campaign and his removal and keeping of TS/SCI documents in his home and subsequent resistance to fully cooperate in their return.

Especially now after Trump illustrated in a very meaningful way that he has no political magic (re: the mediocre midterms) I will be interested to see just how many will continue to support Trump to be the GoP nominee.

If (unlikely IMO) Trump is able to increase his extant support, he will be able to keep doing the Trump thing and could win the plurality to secure the GoP nomination.   If not, then Trump being Trump in the dynamics of 2022+ could very well do him in.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.3.2  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @4.3.1    3 weeks ago
Trump is now a known political character.

I think that's fair. 

I also think he's going to have some difficulty because people are tired of the drama in our post-Covid recessionary world. He's also going to have difficulty getting free positive press like he did in 2016, and difficulty raising money.

I do agree there is an improbable scenario where he can become president again.  If DeSantis decides to wait 4 years (he's only 44) and Youngkin or Abbott either don't enter or don't stand firm and nobody else appears over horizon, Trump could get the nomination. 

From there, I think he can beat Biden or Harris, just based on how poorly they seem to understand what average people actually care about.  Biden will be 82, and he's already feeble as hell.  I think Democrats have better options, but parties are funny in that they often don't nominate their best candidates.

 
 
 
CB
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5  CB     3 weeks ago

It's like the tag-line: "The Greatest Show on Earth." It's like the taglines for WWE pay per view events, where the event wrestler/stars have a 'duty' to promot e and put asses in the seats (according to Hulk Hogan's statement from many years ago) .  A tagline: "This day will be remembered forever" from Trump, a fellow alumni in Vince McMahon's stable of performers, is just one more case of Sell! Sell! Sell!

Will there be political 'blood on the floor' when Trump is done? Of course! Why? Because it's big donor/little donor donation time, baby! 'Receipts' count starts immediately after the 'spectacle.'

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Doink, the Clown  WWF

Made you look! 'The look' itself is ratings gold. And you betta believe by tomorrow morning Trump will be announcing how may 'eyes' he glued to the tube for this "remembrance." :)

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

I’ll leave that for the triggered to watch, wail and gnash their teeth on.

I’m watching college hoops .....

 
 
 
CB
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6.1  CB   replied to  Sparty On @6    3 weeks ago

Well Sparty'n, the big Lug don't have to tell you anything for now, because you are an attentive "insider."  2024 'season' ticket paid for and holding.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  CB @6.1    3 weeks ago

You should know by now to not try and put words in my mouth.     Since you get it wrong every time.    Pretty amazing but you seem to manage it.

Amazing.

Also, hopefully the wear and tear on your teeth was not too bad from last nights TDS circle jerk

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.2  CB   replied to  Sparty On @6.1.1    3 weeks ago

I wouldn't worry about my teeth, Sparty'n.  Spin "bitches" on the right need a distraction from a piss poor showing in the Senate and House and 'beyond.' As for TDS you can say whatever helps get you through the day: Oh look! Donald's back in yo' face with Melania in polka-dots!

I will write about Donald the political freak of nature as often as you allow him to circulate noise and empty-headedness with your enabling.

Cheers!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
Spin "bitches" on the right need a distraction from a piss poor showing in the Senate and House and 'beyond.'

Yeah, Democrats retained control in the Senate and lost the House.

I am betting Nancy Pelosi wishes that the Democrats' showing in the House was as bad as you claim the GOP's was!

Of course, that requires facing facts and reality.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  CB @6.1.2    3 weeks ago

TDS ....it’s an insidious problem for our friends on the left.    

Sadly most are still in denial about it years later .... which is beyond chronic, it’s living rent free, permanently in their addled brains ...   tsk, tsk and so sad for them.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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6.1.5  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.3    3 weeks ago
Yeah, Democrats retained control in the Senate and lost the House.

I'm Happy with "The House". That's where most stuff begins anyway.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.3    3 weeks ago

Yep, looking like a net 15-25 seat swing in the house.     And our friends on the left are spinning it the best they can.

It’s hilarious!

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.7  CB   replied to  Sparty On @6.1.4    3 weeks ago

Don't let it worry you, Sparty'n. Your delusion-prone candidate Trump will be closely scrutinized this time around. Remember Ashli Babbitt! Of course you won't remember her, even though she gave her one and only life for Trump!

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.8  CB   replied to  Sparty On @6.1.6    3 weeks ago

What friends' on the Left? Really?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  CB @6.1.7    3 weeks ago

Lol, trust me, you and yours are the last worry on my mind

Absolute last .....

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.10  CB   replied to  Sparty On @6.1.9    3 weeks ago

Since you insist, you can trust me, I could not give less of a damn. :)

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  CB @6.1.8    3 weeks ago

Many but none are crazed fundamentalists like some of the kooks here.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  CB @6.1.10    3 weeks ago

That’s good because I could care less considering ..... and there you again trying to put words in  my mouth and again .... being 100% wrong.

Amazing!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.13  CB   replied to  Sparty On @6.1.11    3 weeks ago

Sputtering Trump fans are 'everywhere' and must be held in check.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.14  Sparty On  replied to  CB @6.1.13    3 weeks ago

Yawn

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.14    3 weeks ago

The TDS is strong in that one.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.15    3 weeks ago

Help them we can’t

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.16    3 weeks ago
Help them we can’t

At least not until they realize and admit they have a problem.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
Craig Rozniecki
@CraigRozniecki
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The #TrumpAnnouncement is that his daughter is hotter than Ron DeSantis's wife.
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
8  Drinker of the Wry    3 weeks ago

Thanks JR, that changes everything.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Low energy Don tonight. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

To no one's surprise the Fox News commentators are gushing over the speech. Nothing has changed. Wake up everybody. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

Mike Fuckabee just said Trump is "unbeatable". 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    3 weeks ago

Fox coverage , led by Sean Hannity, is nauseating. Not even one word of pushback against this insanity. 

Jim Jordan is on now pledging his devotion to Trump. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10.1.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    3 weeks ago

Really? Good old Huckabee seems to forget we have reels of oppo research on Donald! By the way, the balance of the 2022 mid-terms are being weighed against the "Dodds decision" affecting and ending federal abortion protection. Now then who championed states rights and 'stacking' the SCOTUS with hardcase pro-lifer justices, leading to its federal demise: Donald Trump.

Women and girls, mothers and daughters to be more precise-won't forget what Donald did just because its two years away. And more to the point:  Our girls and women won't give you another four years to legislate or "decision" their wombs. They would be fools to let Donald stack/attack them anymore than you have already!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  CB @10.1.2    3 weeks ago

Reels of OPPO research

not to mention you still have the Steele Dossier, too!

Good luck!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11  Ender    3 weeks ago

Seems the republicans didn't learn anything.

Now shipping immigrants again, crying elections are stolen, saying the country is in the crapper.

Same old shit.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11    3 weeks ago

Enjoy Biden’s border babies sanctuary cities.

Just what you wanted, people seeking sanctuary.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.1    3 weeks ago

Like I said, keep on with the same talking points.

Funny that a judge just put a halt on Biden using article 42 or whatever it is called.

Silence from the right wing.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

Yeah, I know you’ve got nothing to really counter my comment so stay in hater mode.    Never really thought that of you but there you go

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.1.3  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.1.2    3 weeks ago

I am not the one making things up about people.

When did I ever say I wanted people seeking sanctuary?

If you have ever read any of my posts you would know my stance on the border.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.1.3    3 weeks ago

The whine about immigrants in 11 above speaks for itself.

I just find it hilarious.    Cities puffing up their ego’s by establishing sanctuary status and then whining about people getting shipped to them for sanctuary.

It’s just typical sophomoric liberal bullshit.

Nothing more.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @11.1.3    3 weeks ago
I am not the one making things up about people.

When did I ever say I wanted people seeking sanctuary?

If you have ever read any of my posts you would know my stance on the border.

You're a liberal, Ender. We all think alike. I think we all look alike, too.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11    3 weeks ago
Now shipping immigrants again,

What exactly is wrong with providing migrants with free transportation to where they want to go?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.1  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2    3 weeks ago

What is wrong is your complete mischaracterization of what happened.

But do keep pulling these kind of stunts. Seems to backfire on republicans in the end.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.1    3 weeks ago
What is wrong is your complete mischaracterization of what happened.

Democrats are getting exactly what they wanted, immigrants.

What's the beef?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.3  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.2    3 weeks ago

Well, one could make the case then that the dems have been getting what they wanted since the inception of the party.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.1    3 weeks ago
But do keep pulling these kind of stunts

These so-called stunts (wow, talk about mischaracterization!) only call attention to the Biden/Harris failures every time a mayor or governor of these sanctuaries actually have to deal with some consequences of the Administration's failures.

Instead of whining, they should be pushing Biden to get off his damn ass and do something.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.5  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.4    3 weeks ago

A president cannot wave a magic wand and all border crossings will stop.

It is only a pipe dream.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.5    3 weeks ago
A president cannot wave a magic wand and all border crossings will stop. It is only a pipe dream.

Gee, who has suggested a President could stop all border crossings?

Of course it is a pipe dream.

But a President can damn sure have policies in place and demand better and more enforcement of immigration laws, his party could stop talking about amnesty, stop giveaways to illegal aliens, etc.,--you know, things that encourage illegal immigration rather than hinder it.

Not being able to recognize that is pretty telling. Enjoy the Kool-Aid.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.7  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.6    3 weeks ago

I remember all the shit about Obama putting kids in cages. I remember all the shit of trump separating families.

I have said it before and I will say it again, all we ever do is argue about degrees of severity.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.7    3 weeks ago
all we ever do is argue about degrees of severity.

Well, when the numbers tell us that we surpassed immigrant encounters from the entire last fiscal year in just 9 months, the 'degree of severity' is worth mentioning and trying to curb.

Since we all agree that we can't stop them all, should we not at least try to limit it?

If not, just open the damn border up and we'll all just take our chances.

Thank God for gun laws in Texas.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.9  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.8    3 weeks ago

People are fleeing Venezuela, Honduras, still Cuba.

Imo the waves depend upon the severity of the condition of the countries the people are fleeing from, not what our government can or cannot do.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.9    3 weeks ago
People are fleeing Venezuela, Honduras, still Cuba

True enough, but wasn't Kamala Harris in charge of addressing the root causes of immigration?

Just because other countries are having problems doesn't mean we have to let everyone in.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.2.11  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.2.5    3 weeks ago
A president cannot wave a magic wand and all border crossings will stop.

One wonders if you managed to write that with a straight face.

Biden has done nothing but encourage the acceleration of the border crisis.

Nothing but.   

I’d go into all the examples of why that’s true but this is clearly a case of leading a horse to water and trying to make it drink.    No point to it since the denial is strong in this one.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.12  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.2.11    3 weeks ago

If you really think Biden controls how many people decide to come here....

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.2.13  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.2.12    3 weeks ago

And if you think his admin has had NO control over it .......  you aren’t as smart as I gave you credit for .....

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.14  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.2.13    3 weeks ago

No control over how many people decide to come here? Of course he has no control over that.

Do you actually think there is like some kind of communication devise down in Venezuela that sounds a bell telling them to come....

That they are sitting around listening to talk radio from the US and waiting for some green light....

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.2.15  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.2.14    3 weeks ago

You are simply being naive and/or are in serious denial.

No other way to look at it.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.16  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.2.15    3 weeks ago

So yes, you believe that Biden somehow gives some kind of magic signal and everyone leaves their home countries to trek here.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
11.2.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @11.2.14    3 weeks ago
Do you actually think there is like some kind of communication devise down in Venezuela that sounds a bell telling them to come.

Don't you think that the increase from 450,000 people in 2020, to 1.7 million in 2021 was coincidence?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.2.18  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.2.16    3 weeks ago

Nah, not a magic signal.    More mundane methods of communication.   
Television, text, internet, social media, smart phones, radio, etc.

I can tell you when it started.    Of course Biden needed to hide in his basement for awhile after this.

From the Democrat Presidential debates in September 2019:

“I would in fact make sure that there is, that we immediately surge to the border — all those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard,” Biden said . “That’s who we are. We’re a nation that says, ‘If you want to flee and you’re fleeing oppression, you should come.’”

I could go on but am doubtful it would do much good.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.19  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @11.2.18    3 weeks ago

Going by your logic I could say that any people trekking here under past presidents were invited as they have never stopped coming here.

But do go on and only want to play partisan games.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.20  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.2.17    3 weeks ago

Yeah, and the over 2 million in the fiscal year with 3 months to go!

Coincidence, or Biden's plan all along?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.21  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.19    3 weeks ago

Sure, if you suspend reality and ignore the fact that policies actually have effects.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.22  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.20    3 weeks ago

To the border signal Robin...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.23  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.22    3 weeks ago

That makes as little sense as many of your posts!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.24  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.21    3 weeks ago

Did people stop coming here under trump? The answer is no.

Did people stop coming here under Obama? The answer is no.

Did people stop coming here under Bush? The answer is no.

Again, you all are only complaining about degrees.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.25  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.24    3 weeks ago

As I patiently tried to explain to you earluer, degrees matter, especially when we start talking about record nymbers.

I see I wasted time and logic on you.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.26  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.24    3 weeks ago

Do you think the rich pay enough in taxes?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.27  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @11.2.25    3 weeks ago

The degrees only matter to partisan hacks that only are using it as a political football.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.28  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.27    3 weeks ago

That is simply untrue.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.29  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @11.2.27    3 weeks ago

Do the rich pay enough in taxes?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
11.2.30  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @11.2.19    3 weeks ago

Nope, not even close in any account but you keep doing you.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
11.2.31  CB   replied to  Ender @11.2.12    3 weeks ago

These people are 'busy' in their political echo chamber where narcissism is the new humility. I have even had a MAGA 'boy' tell me to my virtual face that God is a conservative! Just imagine how much pride, arrogance, ignorance, and gall it takes to put that in print to another person.

MAGA is irresistibly petty: God is not (petty)!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
11.2.32  Ender  replied to  CB @11.2.31    3 weeks ago

I just tell them Jesus was Liberal.   Haha

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.33  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @11.2.16    3 weeks ago
you believe that Biden somehow gives some kind of magic signal and everyone leaves their home countries to trek here.

Of course he does! All those folks in Honduras and Venezuela got their magic decoder rings so when they burn a finger they know it's time to jet

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.33    3 weeks ago
Of course he does! All those folks in Honduras and Venezuela got their magic decoder rings so when they burn a finger they know it's time to jet

Funny how policies changed from the Trump Administration, and now we have record encounters on the border.

Sure, policies don't have ANYTHING at all to do with it!

/s

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12  Ender    3 weeks ago

He says he rebuilt the entire military...

Said he fixed the woke in the military that Biden established....

How could he fix something that supposedly happened after he left office.

The lies and bullshit continue.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ender @12    3 weeks ago

He's been speaking for almost an hour. He has made his own announcement speech into a slog. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12.1.1  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1    3 weeks ago

Same old bullshit. Attacking schools, attacking the voting system...

Republicans are staying on the same track that cost them during the midterms.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12.1.2  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1    3 weeks ago

Now he is comparing his son to old west gangsters

My lord he is an idiot.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ender @12.1.2    3 weeks ago

Eric must have been the only one of his family there (besides Melania) . He is the only one Trump mentioned. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12.1.4  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.3    3 weeks ago

I have heard reports that Ivana wants to stay away from the campaign. We shall see I guess.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
12.1.5  CB   replied to  Ender @12.1.4    3 weeks ago

I saw that on breaking news tonight. It is for the best! Her father is destroying the family name and she is distancing herself for the good of her children. Well considered on her part from the onset of his announcement. She has a family legacy of her own to protect and possibly repair!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
12.2  CB   replied to  Ender @12    3 weeks ago
Fact-checker extraordinaire:

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Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Trump has not gotten more accurate.
6:16 PM · Nov 15, 2022 · Twitter Web App

What a toxic liar Donald was, is, and forever will be.
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
12.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ender @12    3 weeks ago
The lies and bullshit continue.

People tend to do what they are good at.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
12.3.1  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @12.3    3 weeks ago

What are you good at?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
12.3.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @12.3.1    3 weeks ago

I usually can recognize your BS.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Fox News is now back on the Paul Pelosi conspiracy kick. The right wing media is nothing but fools. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
13.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @13    3 weeks ago

Good! It is ugly and backfired on them last time!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
14  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

It's perfectly fine to want Trump because of policy, but there has to be a way to support that agenda without voting for an insane maniac. As far as I'm concerned, even though $6 gas sucks, it's worth it to not have him as president.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
14.1  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @14    3 weeks ago

His only policy seems to be circling the wagons and inward nationalism.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.2  CB   replied to  Tacos! @14    3 weeks ago

I agree! If one has integrity, if one sets any kind of a positive standard for life, then you can not give over oneself to the first, best, LIAR-CHEATER-THIEF that comes along or back into the picture. Donald Trump is a personification of high-class trash.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
14.3  Sparty On  replied to  Tacos! @14    3 weeks ago
but there has to be a way to support that agenda without voting for an insane maniac.

Yes, it’s called DeSantis.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
15  CB     3 weeks ago

This (too) will be remembered:

'Wildly incorrect': Daniel Dale fact-checks Trump's 2024 announcement

The Trump 'mob' wants to distract from the fact that their 'poster boy' for cutthroat politics fit only for North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the like can't even change after years of (not) trying.

Trump is one old tired, trifling, creepy, delusional, madman. . . and MAGA loves all of that about him!

And bet: This kind of "wildly incorrect" rhetoric is how Donald plans to take down any republican challenger that rises up to announce again him! Just weigh their butts down with lies, innuendo, and words and statements uttered in the recess halls of conservative backrooms.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
16  CB     3 weeks ago
Fact check: 20 false and misleading claims Trump made in his announcement speech

Former President Donald Trump began his 2024 presidential campaign just as he ended his presidency in 2021: with a whole lot of inaccuracy.

Like many of Trump’s speeches as president, his announcement speech at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Tuesday was filled with false claims about a variety of topics – from his record in office to his Democratic opponents to the economy, the environment and foreign policy.

Here is a fact check of 20 false or misleading things he said. This is not a comprehensive list.

Here it is. . . just 'run' the videotape on CNN:

   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
16.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  CB @16    3 weeks ago
20 false and misleading claims Trump made

Why change at this late date? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
16.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    3 weeks ago

Why not change?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
16.1.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    3 weeks ago

So true. We know this is an authentic Trump 'moment' when we can count the outright lies. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif   It would be funny if it was not so pessimistically dangerous! It does beg the question that if the 'head' is overflowing with lies; what of the 'body' of followers who adorn it?

 
 

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