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 Donald Trump is lobbing racially charged attacks at Republican rival Nikki Haley

  
Via:  John Russell  •  3 months ago  •  173 comments


 Donald Trump is lobbing racially charged attacks at Republican rival Nikki Haley
In a lengthy post on his social media platform Friday, Trump gave his GOP rival a nickname that appeared to be yet another racist dog whistle. Writing on Truth Social, Trump repeatedly referred to Haley as “Nimbra,” an apparent intentional misspelling of her birth name. Haley, whose parents moved to the United States in the 1960s, was born Nimarata Nikki Randhawa.

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Former president   Donald Trump   is lobbing racially charged attacks at Republican rival   Nikki Haley , a daughter of Indian immigrants who served as his U.N. ambassador, days before a hotly contested New Hampshire primary that could determine the trajectory of the party’s nominating contest.






In a lengthy post on his social media platform Friday, Trump gave his GOP rival a nickname that appeared to be yet another racist dog whistle.





Writing on Truth Social, Trump repeatedly referred to Haley as “Nimbra,” an apparent intentional misspelling of her birth name. Haley, whose parents moved to the United States in the 1960s, was born Nimarata Nikki Randhawa.




Reminiscent of his spurious claims about former president Barack Obama’s citizenship, Trump also last week spread a false “birther” claim about Haley when he shared a post on Truth Social from the Gateway Pundit, a far-right website that   propagates baseless accusations .





The post falsely suggested Haley was ineligible to be president or vice president because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born. This is not true. The Constitution states that a natural-born citizen can be president, and Haley automatically became a U.S. citizen when she was born in South Carolina in 1972.




Trump’s use of Haley’s birth name comes as the topic of racism has   emerged as a flash point among Republicans   on the campaign trail, with Haley recently asserting that the United States is not and never was a racist nation.   She   earlier stirred controversy   for comments in which she initially did not identify slavery as the cause of the Civil War.




Friday wasn’t the first time Trump has mocked Haley’s name. After the Iowa caucuses on Monday, Trump embarked on a tirade against Haley, misspelling her given first name.



“Anyone listening to Nikki ‘Nimrada’ Haley’s wacked out speech last night, would think that she won the Iowa Primary,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “She didn’t, and she couldn’t even beat a very flawed Ron DeSanctimonious, who’s out of money, and out of hope. Nikki came in a distant THIRD!” (DeSanctimonious is a Trump nickname for another GOP rival, Florida Gov.   Ron DeSantis .)




Even before the campaign began, Haley repeatedly stated that she has always gone by her middle name, which is Punjabi for “little one,” and that she changed her last name to Haley after marrying her husband, Michael Haley.




Trump, whose mother   migrated to the United States from Scotland , has a history of using a rival’s name or background as a tool in his efforts to make rivals sound like they are not fully American. During the 2016 presidential race, he referred to Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.), who was then a GOP   presidential candidate , by his first name, Rafael. He also repeatedly mispronounced and drew out the first name of Kamala D. Harris, now the vice president, on the 2020 campaign trail.



Trump also built favor with the extreme right of the Republican Party when, in 2011, he began floating racist and baseless claims about Obama not being born in the United States, and he frequently emphasized Obama’s middle name, Hussein.








Donald Trump now says Obama was born in the U.S. – but falsely blames Clinton for starting rumor (Video: Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)







Asked Friday on the campaign trail if Trump’s attacks against her are racist, Haley said in New Hampshire that she would “let the people decide” what the former president means.





“He’s clearly insecure. If he goes and does these temper tantrums, if he’s going and spending millions of dollars on TV, he’s insecure, he knows that something’s wrong,” Haley said. “I don’t sit there and worry about whether it’s personal or what he means by it.”



When asked about Trump repeatedly referring to Haley as “Nimbra,” Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said in an email to The Washington Post, “Can you tell me how [Trump’s Truth Social] post would even be construed as racist?”



When provided with a   list of examples   of how Trump has tried to “otherize” his foes by emphasizing their race or background, Cheung added, “Sounds like those who take offense are engaging in faux outrage racism. They should get a life and live in the real world.”




Civil rights leaders denounced Trump’s remarks as a racist appeal to White people, who make up more than 92 percent of the population in New Hampshire, according to   the latest census figures .




Elder James Johnson, head of the Racial Justice Network in South Carolina, said Friday that Trump’s remarks are his way of saying “she is not one of us, that she is a Brown person, that she is not a White person.”




Share this article Share By referencing the birth name Haley has not used in public life, Trump is “sending a message to white nationalists,” said Johnson, who offered that he is “not a fan” of Haley overall.




Another civil rights activist said the racism behind Trump’s behavior is obvious.




“Why is he actually even using this name? What purpose does it serve?” asked Anthony Poore, president and CEO of the New Hampshire Center for Justice and Equity, a racial and social justice organization.



Poore said Trump’s record — dating back to when he and his father were found guilty of   housing discrimination against Black people , to attacks on Obama’s place of birth — make clear what he is doing.




Trump “uses white supremacy to advance his political agenda,” Poore said, adding that the former president is “using these bogeymen — or ‘bogeynames’ — to rile up hatred.”



The attacks on Haley come as she has continued to defend the notion that the United States is not a “racist country” and has “never been a racist country.”




“Are we perfect? No,” Haley said on Fox News on Tuesday. “But our goal is to always make sure we try and be more perfect every day that we can.”



Haley was responding to a question about a viral moment from MSNBC host Joy Reid, who on Monday said the former governor is “still a Brown lady that’s got to try to win in a party that is deeply anti-immigrant. … I don’t see how she becomes the nominee of that party.”



Haley said she and Reid must live in “different” Americas. Haley’s father, Ajit Singh Randhawa, is a professor of biology who got his PhD at the University of British Columbia and later moved to Bamberg, S.C., a segregated town where Haley was born, to teach at nearby Voorhees College — a historically Black university.





Haley told Fox News that although she faced racism as a “Brown girl that grew up in a small rural town in South Carolina,” she became “the first female minority governor in history, who became a U.N. ambassador and who is now running for president.”



“If that’s not the American Dream, I don’t know what is,” Haley continued. “You can sit there and give me all the reasons why you think I can’t do this. I will continue to defy everybody on why we can do this, and we will get it done.”



During a CNN town hall Thursday night, Haley defended her characterization of the country after host Jake Tapper pressed her on America’s history, noting that the country had been founded on “many racist precepts,” including slavery.



“We had plenty of racism that we had to deal with,” Haley responded, referring to her childhood in a small rural town. “But my parents never said we lived in a racist country. And I’m so thankful they didn’t. Because for every Brown and Black child out there, if you tell them they live or were born in a racist country, you’re immediately telling them they don’t have a chance.”




She acknowledged that America had its “stains” but said that “national self-loathing” was “killing” the United States.



“I want every Brown and Black child to see that and say, ‘No, I don’t live in a country that was formed on racism. I live in a country where they wanted all people to be equal, and to make sure that they had life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’” Haley told CNN.



Trump’s emphasis on Haley’s birth name and his questioning of her eligibility to run for president have mostly been isolated to social media.



At his campaign rallies, Trump has used the nickname “Birdbrain” to refer to Haley but hasn’t made changes to her actual name or suggested she isn’t eligible to be president. He has ramped up his attacks on Haley in recent weeks, ahead of the New Hampshire primary, where she is polling second and has the endorsement of Gov. Chris Sununu (R).



Marianne LeVine, Dylan Wells, Mariana Alfaro and Aaron Blake contributed to this report.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 months ago

Although I expect the rote denials to come in hot and heavy, this is very clear cut.  Trump wants his followers to reject Haley because she is Indian-American. 

We can KNOW this because Trump uses her south asian birthname (actually a deliberate mispronunciation of her birth name) as a "nickname" for her.  What kind of psycho would do that unless it is to disparage her ethnic heritage ? 

Debate it if you like, but it's really not debatable. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

No debate here.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago
Trump wants his followers to reject Haley because she is Indian-American. 

Of course, that's what racists do when they have nothing else to campaign on. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2.1  cjcold  replied to  MrFrost @1.2    3 months ago

How anybody can think that this juvenile playground bully should be president is insane.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.2.2  CB  replied to  cjcold @1.2.1    3 months ago

I am looking at recent images of Trump and seeing this aging, wrinkling (I am starting to a "tiny" bit too so I am not against the "steps" to aging), old bastard going around dividing the world and the country, when all the nation really needs and deserves is a humble servant of the people willing to make life better not just for his collaborators and cult, but for us all. 

Trump supporters like to negatively 'brag' about how Biden divides the country. . . but, they 'bless' the Trump 'treatment' which is 100% MAGA and no compromise.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

“Trump wants his followers to reject Haley because she is Indian-American.”

As the latest self-perceived threat to his self-aggrandizing agenda. Pandering, preposterous, and yet utterly predictable.  

Pathetic that his selfishness still…still…and up until his inevitable symbolic self immolation…continues to resonate with some. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago

The cheese appears to be slipping further off the cracker as well.

The name mixup came as Trump was repeatedly criticizing Haley, the former ambassador to the United Nations, who’s cutting into the former president’s lead in New Hampshire. “Nikki Haley, you know they, do you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything, deleted and destroyed all of it. All of it because of lots of things like Nikki Haley is in charge of security. We offered her 10,000 people, soldiers, National Guard, whatever they want. They turned it down. They don’t want to talk about that. These are very dishonest people,” Trump said.

Nancy, Nikki, Jean, he hates them all equally...

He attacks Haley's ethnicity daily with his lawyer Habba, the daughter of Iraqi immigrants, beside him

smiling and he hired Alina Saad Habba because she was the smartest lawyer he could find? 

 

 
 
 
Freewill
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1.5  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 months ago
Trump wants his followers to reject Haley because she is Indian-American

Nah he wants his followers to reject her because he sees her as a threat to his campaign and agenda, just like all the other opponents he calls names and belittles, Republican or Democrat.  What he wants is to gain additional followers by playing on the idea that she isn't "one of them".  So it's worse than him being a racist, he seeks to gin up the racism, hatred or distrust of others in order to win or get what he wants.  It's a sickness many of us recognized early on in the 2016 primary.  What we should learn, IMHO, by observing his behavior is that HE isn't "one of us"!   

 

 
 
 
CB
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2  CB    3 months ago
“We had plenty of racism that we had to deal with,” Haley responded, referring to her childhood in a small rural town. “But my parents never said we lived in a racist country. And I’m so thankful they didn’t. Because for every Brown and Black child out there, if you tell them they live or were born in a racist country, you’re immediately telling them they don’t have a chance.”

I really don't understand why Haley is flopping around with this issue. There can be "polite" discussion and use of euphemisms to help ease the pain of the discussion in public (I do it all the time in mixed company of strangers and friends), but of course "the thing"  was and is what it was and is. Slavery - with some slave presidents in-charge of the government who could not or would not change the system.

 
 
 
CB
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3  CB    3 months ago

Donald Trump clearly lacks home-training. Apparently, he is untrainable. He should retire to Mara Lago, settle his cases, and lick his 'wounds' from his multiple encounters with the System! This is the problem with a lack of what has been labeled, "PC" (political correctness). . . it allows for normalization of a bastard like Trump to run around savaging people's reputations and names. If Nikki Haley wants to be known by her "pet name"—what's it to a member of the "Drumpf" line?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4  MrFrost    3 months ago

Dementia Don has completely lost it. He's mentally ill.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4    3 months ago

I wouldn't vote for him then.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @4    3 months ago

Dementia Don has completely lost it. He's mentally ill.

twitter

People are starting to wonder if he's fit for the job

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @4.2    3 months ago

Starting?!

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     3 months ago

Yet, the right keeps complaining how the left is dividing us, a number of current articles and comments posted on NT show this to be correct and yet here we have a racist putz like Trump doing all the dividing with this racist BS.

Wake up righties. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @5    3 months ago
the right keeps complaining how the left is dividing us

The left keeps complaining how the right is dividing us.

They are both correct.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6  CB    3 months ago

Oh the irony that is the republican party. Nikki Haley can not run as an Pacific Asian female, but Donald Trump gets to shout out from his 'rooftop' that it should matter. . .and cost her. . . . Haley is of Indian-descent and her familial name bears witness of it! Once again, Trump gets away with dirty, bastard conduct and the new GOP base just sat silently by and let it happen.

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1  Krishna  replied to  CB @6    3 months ago
Nikki Haley can not run as an Pacific Asian female,

Obviously she's an American. ("Indian-American?")

I know I'm being a little picky here, but as a group people from India, Pakistan, (and now Bengladesh?) & Sri Lanka are more accurately referred to as "South-Asian", not Pacific types.

India is bordered on the West by the Arabian Sea and on the East by the Indian Ocean-- that is not usually referred to as the Pacific Ocean.

A person from any of these four countries (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka*, and probably Bengladesh**) often refer to themselves as being a "Desi" .

Haley was born into the Sikh religion which is quite similar to Hinduism. IIRC she married an American  Methodist man and interestingly practices that religion but also follows some Sikh traditions (?).

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*Sri Lanka was formerly called "Ceylon"

**Bengladesh was formerly called "East Pakistan" 

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @6.1    3 months ago

A person from any of these four countries often refer to themselves as being a  "Desi"  .Haley was born into the Sikh religion which is quite similar to Hinduism. IIRC she married an American  Methodist and interestingly practices that religion but also some Sikh traditions (?).

The Sikhs might also refer to themselves as "Punjabis" because Punjab is where them come from. (Northern India and parts of Pakistan). 

Incidentally because her parents are Indian, people often incorrectly refer to her as "Non-White". While the theory of three distinct races has been discredited, if one wanted to classify her race, I would say she's "White".

So that's just some irrelevant but possibly interesting information which probably doesn't interest most people here LOL.

P.S: More trivia: Without googling-- What continent are each of these countries in? Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Next thing you know he’ll tell black People they ain’t  really black if they don’t vote for him. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

that's only racist if Trump says it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    3 months ago
that's only racist if Trump says it.

It is funny watching the people who defend Biden's  racist claims  (not to mention indulge in and defend in labeling blacks Uncle Toms) get so upset that Trump stole their playbook.  Though I guess Trump is doing the Obama play against Romney (he's a mormon, he's not one of us) more than Biden's more blunt mode. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    3 months ago

Trump has been saying racist things all his life.  He was the king birther in 2011, and that is a main reason why he won in 2016. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    3 months ago
was the king birther in 2011, and that is a main reason why he won in 2016.

Obama voters switched to him because he was a birther? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    3 months ago

The MAIN reason he won?

Please let Hillary know so she can add it to her long list of excuses of how she blew a sure thing.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    3 months ago
He was the king birther in 2011, and that is a main reason why he won in 2016. 

I think that everyone knew that Hillary was born in the USA.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.6  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    3 months ago

What I do know is this: You, personally, will not be able to write a damn thing denouncing so-called, "identity politics," after this, because Trump, "dear Leader," has met with your approval abusing Haley's identity.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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7.1.7  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    3 months ago

He was the king birther in 2011, and that is a main reason why he won in 2016.”

if you really believe that then you have no fucking clue why he won. Smdh

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @7.1.7    3 months ago

That's exactly why he 'won' and actually Hillary did with the popular vote.  The EC doesn't mean dick.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.1.9  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.8    3 months ago

The Democrats won the popular vote seven of the eight last US Presidential election...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @7.1.9    3 months ago

Isn't that an irrelevant observation?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.10    3 months ago

I wonder if schools still teach about elections every time someone points out that irrelevant info.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.11    3 months ago

The longer that I read comments here, I think that Civics was dropped from many public education systems.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.8    3 months ago

The EC is what actually matters.

The popular vote means little compared to the EC.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @7.1.6    3 months ago
a damn thing denouncing so-called, "identity politics," after this, because Trump, "dear Leader," has met with your approval abusing Haley's identity

. I promise to not vote for Trump yet again.  How can I vote for him less than zero times?  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.15  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.14    3 months ago

Another thing to consider: Donald Trump is fighting dirty with the digging into another person's past and coming up with racial overtones and "deliveries" about family. Haley makes a 'grand' mistake to let him get away with it. It would serve her well to realize and ACCEPT that she is in a fight, a strong mental fight, with a diabolical man whose sole intention is to take her out of the race by hook or crook, preferably. That is, it does not matter to Trump which method wins for him!

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.1.16  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.8    3 months ago
actually Hillary did with the popular vote. The EC doesn't mean dick.

I'm fact it is the popular vote that means dick and the RV that is important. You know this because you have been told so several times already but refuse to listen or learn. As far as Hillary losing the 2017 election, we sure did dodge o bullet them. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1.17  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.10    3 months ago
Isn't that an irrelevant observation?

Its only irrelevant if Hillary says it.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1.18  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.14    3 months ago
How can I vote for him less than zero times?  

If you want to do that, you might try dividing by zero..

(See where that will getcha!!!!)

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.2  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

Still can't call out creepy Donald for calling out an Indian-American GOPer for being. . . American. Trump has full ownership of MAGAs.  

The important difference between Biden and Trump in this regard is when Biden slips up and says words and phrases that are ignorant, disrespectful, and prejudicial—he self-corrects. It is not done again. When Trump. . . there are no slip-ups. . .says ignorant, disrespectful, and prejudicial words and phrases. . .he double-downs and triple-downs on it—and MAGA puts its seal of approval on it.

To which end, I don't see you calling out Trump for his arrogance at bothering with mocking Haley's name.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  CB @7.2    3 months ago

Trump clearly made a racist dogwhistle but they have all drank the kool-aid. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.1    3 months ago

It's interesting that this idiom got it partially wrong.  Jim Jones didn't buy kool aid but the cheaper Flavor Aid. 

100px-Flavor_Aid_Cherry_Packet.jpg

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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7.2.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.2.2    3 months ago

that’s grape to hear, but low hanging fruit, flies inn the thinly veiled not faced racist suggestions that are just the norm anymore, after the ole Novocain Narcissist  in need of a Doc Kevorkian anesthesiologist, again straight up slaps everyone not male in White, into a Trumped up fight, as we all should know by now, T is just a big ole bloviating jiggly bowl right out the bow el of Bovine excremeant for the insecure white right

and again

rightly or not, working to Trumps advantage, and collectively to cause damage, for all of  US

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.3  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

I hear tell if you only call people out, it makes all the difference!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @7.3    3 months ago

I should probably start each and every post with a ritualized denouncement of Donald Trump.  That will solve all the world's problems. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.3.1    3 months ago

Seems to be really working for those who do it constantly.

/s

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.3.3  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.3.1    3 months ago

Or, begin each day swearing to this...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.3.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @7.3.3    3 months ago

I see your prayers have gone unanswered.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.3.5  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.3.1    3 months ago

Trump gets the treatment he deserves. . . just not from MAGAs.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.3.6  CB  replied to  JBB @7.3.3    3 months ago

If there is a man who has no proper value to this nation, it is Donald J. Trump. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.7  bugsy  replied to  JBB @7.3.3    3 months ago

My guess is you were a big fan of the apprentice and only started to hate him when he beat Queen Hillary....like most leftists did,

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.3.8  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @7.3.7    3 months ago
My guess is you were a big fan of the apprentice and only started to hate him when

...mocking handicapped people, lying, cheating on all of his wives, rape, paying off porn stars, the epic amount of lying....that's just a few reasons why he's a POS... 

What is Hillary Queen of, or are you just outing your partisanship?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.3.9  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.8    3 months ago
What is Hillary Queen of, or are you just outing your partisanship?

Queen of Dweebs.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.3.10  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.8    3 months ago
mocking handicapped people, lying, cheating on all of his wives, rape, paying off porn stars, the epic amount of lyin

Sooooooo. he's a politician?

"What is Hillary Queen of",

Well, all those unintelligent people that voted for her in 2016, dontcha know.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.3.11  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @7.3.10    3 months ago
Sooooooo. he's a politician?

List ONE that has done all of that? We'll wait. When he mocked a disabled person, that really should have been the end of trump but oh no, totally ok. My God some people on the right are just fucking stupid losers. 

Well, all those unintelligent people that voted for her in 2016, dontcha know.

If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that she is a Queen, go for it. 

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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7.3.12  MonsterMash  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.8    3 months ago
What is Hillary Queen of

Bimbo control

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.3.13  CB  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.11    3 months ago

MAGAs want us to accept their morality; but, now even its up for 'grabs.' Trump proves 'everything' is transactional with the GOP now. All they wish to do now is win by any means.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.14  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.11    3 months ago
When he mocked a disabled person, that really should have been the end of trump but oh no, totally ok. My God some people on the right are just fucking stupid losers. 

Maybe...but when Biden said that if you don't vote got him you ain't black....or...you have to work in a 7-11 if you have an Indian accent....or...poor kids are not as smart as white kids....or...Biden white-splained that Latinos in America resist vaccinations because “ they’re worried that they’ll be vaccinated and deported .”....or.....“unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.”.....or....when asked by a black reporter if he has ever taken a cognitive test, he said...That’s like saying you . . . before you got in this program, you’re take [sic] a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not,” “What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?”....or....“the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”.....or....when discussing integrating public schools, he said he doesn't want his kids growing up in a "racial jungle"....or....maybe when he co wrote the 1994 crime bill that essentially doubled incarceration rates...affecting blacks far more than any other race......and there are more.....that really should have been the end of Biden but, oh no, totally ok to leftists. My God most on the left for 50 years are just fucking losers.

Get the fuck outta here.....

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.3.15  MrFrost  replied to  MonsterMash @7.3.12    3 months ago
Bimbo control

512

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.3.16  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @7.3.14    3 months ago
but when Biden

Can you defend trump without bringing up someone else? 

I doubt it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.17  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.3.1    3 months ago
That will solve all the world's problems.

Don't know about that, but not voting for Trump will be a good start.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.18  CB  replied to  bugsy @7.3.14    3 months ago

And yet through all of 'that' Biden still manages to get the minority vote. Go figure. While Trump lags behind. Wonder why. God looks on the heart, I guess. While Biden's gaffes can be loud and annoying. . . Trump's intentional incitement, combativeness, and reckless regard for others is obnoxious, loud, and annoying. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.19  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.11    3 months ago

Bill Clinton raped several women and even lost his law license and paid a heavy fine. He also had oral sex with Monica right in the oval office. 

I remember a time when Biden asked s congressman on a wheelchair to stand up and wondered where a dead congresswoman was. 

Biden is a liar or do you really believe that the Southern border is secure 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.20  arkpdx  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.17    3 months ago

We have had more world troubles since Trump was defeated than we had during his entire presidency. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.21  arkpdx  replied to  CB @7.3.18    3 months ago

I guess you missed this. Biden is actually losing his minority support. 

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.22  CB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.20    3 months ago

We have had more national bombast and unhealthy for a democracy court filings against a president since Trump departed the White House too. More to point: Trump has told us that should he become president the bombast and "business" in the courts will pick up too! Additionally, foreign nations did not know what to make of the "bastard" president in his first four years. . .now, the international community will not be caught 'flat-footed' on his approach or entry to the presidency. That 'man' has a record and it is "comprehensively" known.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.23  CB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.21    3 months ago

So what? It's yet early in the year. And as you probably know polls "suck" a big one. They're "spot-checks" and "pushed polled" by telephone and people talk grandiose matters until the 'end' is near. In any case, I don't have a lock on the mind of people of color or Black folks. . .let them vote for whomsoever they choose. I do my part to tell those I know that Trump is the same "unwashed," filthy, bastard that he modeled himself after from the days of "his" Roy Cohn, may he RIP. The lies, the mocking, the low-class and low-brow tactics are tacky and trashy. I see some of the blacks rooting for Trump. . . it's their prerogative. . .and mine to call him out and them too as the case may be.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.24  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.20    3 months ago

The PotUS does not control rogue entities such as Putin, Hamas, etc.    

If you want to use absurd logic like that, one could argue that Trump is the only PotUS in a century under which a worldwide pandemic took place.

It is ridiculous to blame Trump for the outbreak of the pandemic itself (starting in China and spreading across the planet).  Right?   So how can you possibly blame Biden for the rogue actions of Putin, Hamas, etc.?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.25  arkpdx  replied to  CB @7.3.23    3 months ago
 polls "suck" a big one

I am going to ask you a serious question. 

Why is it that when polls are favorable to leftist causes or candidates, they are considered by the left as true and and accurate but when the same polls taken by the same pollsters are unfavorable they become suspect and invalid?

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.26  CB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.25    3 months ago

Make a "serious" statement and I will extend an answer. I no longer respond to questions from MAGAs, because I don't have time for the same bs "games" that were played in prior years over question/answer "sessions" here.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.27  arkpdx  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.24    3 months ago

That's it try and pass the buck. 

Oh and the lefties have been trying to blame Trump for the pandemic since the beginning. What they don't do is give him credit for getting a vaccine out in record tr. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.28  arkpdx  replied to  CB @7.3.26    3 months ago

First off, I am not MAGA and I don't intend to vote for Trump in the primary although in .my state it doesn't matter. I do however unlike the liberals want to see my president put the needs, interests and security of the USA first last and always

I tend to vote for Nikki Haley. If the November election comes down to a choice between Biden and Trump I will enthusiastically vote for Trump. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.29  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.27    3 months ago
That's it try and pass the buck. 

A bullshit reply.   I showed how your logic is absurd.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.30  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.28    3 months ago
I do however unlike the liberals want to see my president put the needs, interests and security of the USA first last and always

And with that you think that Trump is the guy who will put the needs, interests and security of the USA first last and always???

Did you notice that Trump put his own ego (his refusal to accept losing an election) before the CotUS and the will of the electorate?   You actually believe Trump gives one shit about the people he exploits (defined as those he has suckered into voting for him)?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.3.31  arkpdx  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.30    3 months ago
And with that you think that Trump is the guy who will put the needs, interests and security of the USA first last and always???

Much more so than Biden. Biden has already shown how much he disrespects this country by the actions he has taken at the border and dealing with the drug smugglers. We also know how dirty Biden is by his dealings with Hunter.  

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.32  JBB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.31    3 months ago

You are talking out your behind! President Biden has served this nation with honor and dignity for over forty years as US Senator, Vice President and POTUS. Joe and Jill Biden's taxes are public going back for decades. Sorry MAGA, but you lost. Trump LOST!

original

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.33  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.16    3 months ago

So you have no coherent response.

Not surprising.

This from someone who can't help but slip Trump into every seed he can no matter the subject.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.34  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.24    3 months ago
It is ridiculous to blame Trump for the outbreak of the pandemic itself (starting in China and spreading across the planet)

True but you leftists did blame him for it getting to the point it did here.

Probably the biggest reason why Biden was elected.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.35  bugsy  replied to  JBB @7.3.32    3 months ago
President Biden has served this nation with honor and dignity

You can serve with honor and dignity and still be a failure their whole career.

Like Biden

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.36  JBB  replied to  bugsy @7.3.35    3 months ago

Whooping Trump and saving our republic were not, "Failures"!

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.37  bugsy  replied to  JBB @7.3.36    3 months ago

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Biden has been a failure his entire life

Ask Cornpop. He'll tell you

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.38  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @7.3.36    3 months ago

No they weren't,  It is the former 'president' who is the failure and it's supporters/enablers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.39  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.8    3 months ago

The former 'president' is a failed reality 'star', a failure as a business owner, a pathetic excuse of a human being, a total loser.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.40  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.30    3 months ago

The only thing the former 'president' puts first last and always is himself.  The alleged billionaire is campaigning to pay his legal fees and look at the suckers who pay up, usually those who can ill afford it in the first place after they buy their cigarettes, beer, and lottery tickets before they retire to their trailer park or mommy's basement.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.41  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.38    3 months ago

We can take consolation in the fact that everyone reading this full well knows that President Biden's honorable service to this nation and his many accomplishments far far exceed those of the hyperbolic nabobs lamely saying that he accomplished nothing...

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.42  bugsy  replied to  JBB @7.3.41    3 months ago
his many accomplishments

Name some and show how those "accomplishments" have helped this country.

See if you can do it without mentioning Trump or Republicans.

Let me help you with one...

Co sponsored the 1992 crime bill that ensured blacks would end up getting far harsher sentences than any other race.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.43  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.41    3 months ago
We can take consolation in the fact that everyone reading this full well knows that President Biden's honorable service to this nation and his many accomplishments far far exceed those of the hyperbolic nabobs lamely saying otherwise...

Out of the dozen people reading this about half believe it to be true.  Probably less than half.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.44  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.43    3 months ago
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Right Down the Center
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7.3.45  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.36    3 months ago
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Tessylo
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7.3.46  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @7.3.41    3 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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7.3.47  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.46    3 months ago

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JBB
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7.3.48  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.46    3 months ago

original Exactly, and Biden's 4.9% GDP Growth damn sure ain't, "Nothing"...

original

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.49  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @7.3.34    3 months ago
True but you leftists did blame him for it getting to the point it did here.

Everyone to your left is not a 'leftist'.   Get a clue about how political ideology works.

Trump did both good and bad regarding COVID-19.   The bad was at its inception when he pretended that the pandemic was not much more than the flu because he was afraid that panic would harm the economy (and thus his presidency).   He continued this selfish and irresponsible action for months until it was no longer possible to deny the danger.   

The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter

Then he engaged in irresponsible speculation on cures.   Surely you remember his Hydroxychloroquine musings which, of course, resulted in deaths of his most naive believers.

Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

When Trump finally realized that he had to actually act to prevent the pandemic from worsening (and destroying his chance at reelection) he started talking about vaccines and safeguards and initiated project Warp Speed.   There, finally, is the good.


Stop attempting to defend an irresponsible narcissist who demonstrably cares more about his ego than the safety of the American people.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.50  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.48    3 months ago

Like so many of your memes, that is just not true.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.51  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.31    3 months ago

And not a single word ever from you acknowledging the wrongdoings of Trump.   Every time a Trump wrongdoing is discussed you leap to Biden (with hyperbole even).

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.52  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.50    3 months ago

Prove It! Show us your US GDP graph for the last ten years...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.53  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.49    3 months ago
Then he engaged in irresponsible speculation on cures.   Surely you remember his Hydroxychloroquine musings which, of course, resulted in deaths by his most naive believers.

You forgot to mention the FDA approved (for about 2 and a half months) it for emergency use for people that were hospitalized.  Also unless I am mistaken Trump could not write prescriptions for Hydroxychloroquine. Are you saying some doctors were among Trumps most naive believers and they were prescribing it based on what he said? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.54  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.52    3 months ago

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TᵢG
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7.3.55  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.53    3 months ago

There you go defending Trump right on cue.

First you pretend that since my post did not include every detail of the COVID crisis that I am being unfair.   Read the links I provided!

Are you saying some doctors were among Trumps most naive believers and they were prescribing it based on what he said? 

Anyone who took Trump's words to heart and consumed Hydroxychloroquine are (as I defined) his most naive followers.

Impact of Trump's Promotion of Unproven COVID-19 Treatments and Subsequent Internet Trends: Observational Study

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.56  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.53    3 months ago

Explain This if Biden's economy is such a failure...

original original

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.3.57  MrFrost  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.19    3 months ago
Bill Clinton

Cool, so don't vote for him. 

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.58  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.54    3 months ago

original original original

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.59  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.55    3 months ago

There you go defending Trump right on cue.

There you go, trashing Trump at every turn, right on cue.

First you pretend that since my post did not include every detail of the COVID crisis that I am being unfair.   Read the links I provided!

I point out that you left out information that was relevant to the point you were trying to make.

Anyone who took Trump's words to heart and consumed Hydroxychloroquine are (as I defined) his most naive followers.

Anyone that took it took it took it because their doctor prescribed it for them to take.  Again you blame it on Trump and ignore the FDA approved it for emergency use and doctors still had to prescribe it.

If you are only going to use cherry picked statements in your argument to trash everything Trump don't be surprised if someone calls you out on it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.60  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.56    3 months ago

WHat does that have to do with the post you are responding to.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.61  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.58    3 months ago

Sorry, I have reached my daily intake of reading silly irrelevant meaningless memes

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.3.62  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @7.3.42    3 months ago

Americans tend to have short memories, the Crime Bill also included the ''Violence Against Women Act'' which has been a success and has been reauthorized a number of times. The bill was not controversial when it was passed, 58% of blacks supported it along with the black mayors of most major cities and a number of the black caucas in congress. The welfare reform bill was much more controversial at that time.

From the time it was passed until 2006 incarceration rates keep increasing but since 2006 incarceration rates have fallen 17% for whites, 26% for Hispanics, and 34% for blacks.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.63  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.49    3 months ago

Thank you for your opinion

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.64  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.59    3 months ago

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bugsy
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7.3.65  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.51    3 months ago
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[Neither TiG or ARKPDX are the topic]
 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.66  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.59    3 months ago
Again you blame it on Trump and ignore the FDA approved it for emergency use and doctors still had to prescribe it.

I blamed Trump for his irresponsible statements.   You pretend he did not make those statements.   Irrational defense of Trump.

If you are only going to use cherry picked statements ...

Amazing projection.   I have delivered articles and videos to support my argument.   You ignore all of that content and pretend that since my comment does not exhaustively cover every detail of the Trump COVID matter that I am "cherrypicking".

Clearly you did not even read this:

The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter

Instead of playing slimy, dishonest games, deal with the facts and formulate a thoughtful rebuttal.   My claim is that Trump did both good and bad regarding the pandemic.   Obviously you agree with any good Trump did so let's see an actual, thoughtful rebuttal that considers my links (details behind my argument) that I and the links are wrong.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.67  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @7.3.64    3 months ago

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TᵢG
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7.3.68  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @7.3.65    3 months ago

The difference, which you blindly ignore, is that I am critical of Biden too.    I do not deny Biden's flaws and failures.   

Unlike you, some of us view the world without a partisan lens and are free to criticize or praise regardless of party affiliations.   

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.69  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.66    3 months ago

    You pretend he did not make those statements.   

I do?  Thanks for letting me know

 since my comment does not exhaustively cover every detail of the Trump COVID matter that I am "cherrypicking".

Almost correct.  You are cherry picking because you ignore very relevant information that would not make your supposition as strong as you would like.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.70  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.60    3 months ago

Everything, Right Down, Everything...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.71  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7.3.70    3 months ago
Everything, Right Down, Everything...

Nothing, Right Down, Nothing...

Fixed it for you.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.3.72  CB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.27    3 months ago

For a good deed I do not blame Trump; in fact I give him credif (as a recipient of 6 Covid-19 vaccines myself). However, his part in the mRNA vaccines does not give him license to abuse the nation and world or give him a 'FAT' head! Let's keep that in mind. A "humble servant" Trump has not been to a grateful nation.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.73  Tessylo  replied to  CB @7.3.72    3 months ago

I give him credit for nothing including the vaccine for Co-Vid.  It had to be done and the former 'president' really had nothing to do with it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.74  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.69    3 months ago

You have nothing but bullshit to offer.

Let's see you actually put forth a thoughtful argument.   I stated that Trump did both good and bad regarding the pandemic.   I provided a summary of his good and bad and provided substantial supporting links:

The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter

Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

Impact of Trump's Promotion of Unproven COVID-19 Treatments and Subsequent Internet Trends: Observational Study

Rather than play lame games, if you think that Trump holds no blame for the perpetuation of the pandemic within the USA then make your argument.   

Yeah, I think we all know that you will come back with some feeble excuse such as "I already did" or "I did not say ____".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.3.75  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.73    3 months ago

Good point. They seem to think that another president would have stood still . 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.3.76  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.74    3 months ago
Let's see you actually put forth a thoughtful argument. 

None of us will live that long. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.77  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.74    3 months ago
Yeah, I think we all know that you will come back with some feeble excuse such as "I already did" or "I did not say ____".

So you are aware of your strategy of throwing some bullshit accusations out there attempting to put people on the defensive.  I was never sure if it was planned or just a daily accident.

Thanks for your comment, theory and being the spokesperson for "we all"..

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.78  CB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.28    3 months ago

Liberals want the needs, interests, and security of the USA to be first, last, and always too. Because when such is not the case, this nation will not be the leading nation for long. Within the borders of our nation, all things being equal, you have no cause to manufacture what you perceive as "needs" separate from the whole of the citizenry. Compromise works. . .so the two political parties should let it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.79  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.77    3 months ago

As predicted, you have no argument.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.3.80  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.77    3 months ago

He posted three links supporting his pov.  You post "bullshit accusations" without so much as a simplistic explanation for why you think that is what they were. 

We go through this dozens of times every day. 

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.81  CB  replied to  arkpdx @7.3.31    3 months ago

Support for Trump is aid and comfort for MAGA as a political movement. You will be hard-pressed to separate the individual Trump, who demands fealty/loyalty to the MAGA cult and will "dispatch" a battery of trolls online and dirty, slimy, "swatter" calls, on lackadaisical supporters, from MAGA. Trump 'rules' MAGA with an iron fist!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.83  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.80    3 months ago
We go through this dozens of times every day. 

I guess you must like to.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.84  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.79    3 months ago
As predicted, you have no argument.

As predicted, you accuse anyone that does not share your view of having no argument.

Thanks for your opinion, theory and usual telling people what they think and ignoring or misinterpreting any points they make.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.3.85  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.84    3 months ago

I accuse people who refuse to put forth an argument and instead engage in slimy diversion tactics to clearly NOT have an argument.

I invited you to engage in thoughtful debate.   You refuse and write crap like @7.3.84

I stated that Trump did both good and bad regarding the pandemic.   I provided a summary of his good and bad and provided   substantial  supporting links:

The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter

Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

Impact of Trump's Promotion of Unproven COVID-19 Treatments and Subsequent Internet Trends: Observational Study

Dispense with the theatrics and put forth an argument.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.3.86  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.84    3 months ago

Stop saying you have an argument and tell Tig and everyone else WHAT your argument is.  This is not rocket science. What is your FACTUAL argument against what Tig says? No one gives a shit about your feelings about the issues. What facts do you have ? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.87  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.86    3 months ago

Try reading 7.3.59.  I have no intention in playing the same game with you as I won't do with others

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.88  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.85    3 months ago

Thanks for your comment.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.3.89  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.3.87    3 months ago
Try reading 7.3.59

Yeah, the obvious bullshit excuse of 'I already made the argument'.  You point to a comment that flat out ignores my argument, ignores my supporting links and instead whines that I did not enumerate every little detail in my comment.

You have no argument.   This is obvious.   You have at best yet another feeble attempt to defend Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3.90  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.89    3 months ago

Thanks for your totally predictable attempted spin and comment.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3.91  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.76    3 months ago

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afrayedknot
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7.3.92  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @7.3.89    3 months ago

“…and instead whines…”

So, so predictable… to the extent one could write the entire script. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.3.93  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @7.3.92    3 months ago

I suggest learning what "whining" is.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.3.94  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @7.3.16    3 months ago
Can you defend trump without bringing up someone else? 

There's an all for that!

Err, I mean there's a name for that.

(Its called a "whaddaboudism").

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.4  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago
Next thing you know he’ll tell black People they ain’t  really black if they don’t vote for him.

Does that mean you can change your race if you change your vote?

Most people believe you can't change your race (well, with perhaps a very few exceptions such as Michael Jackson... jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Krishna @7.4    3 months ago
Most people believe you can't change your race (

If you can change your sex by simply by wishing it, I don't see why you can't change your race. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.4.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @7.4    3 months ago
Does that mean you can change your race if you change your vote?

You should be free to self-identify your race, gender, ethnocentricity, and be free to change it as you mature.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.4.3  arkpdx  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.4.1    3 months ago

I am identifying myself as a 21 year old male. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.5  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

Maybe he will say she sounds like she should be working in a 7-11

You know...because Trump is the only racist running for president s/

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
7.5.1  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @7.5    3 months ago
You know...because Trump is the only racist running for president s/

DeSantis dropped out? 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.5.2  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @7.5.1    3 months ago

Don't know where you get that DeSantis is racist, but, hey...why not just make up shit as you go.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.5.3  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @7.5.2    3 months ago

.To some, every Republican is a racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, or whatever they dream up.

bunch of malarkey!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
7.5.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Texan1211 @7.5.3    3 months ago

We all carry some Bias, and ole average Joe be biding his dumb sum times on a party boat working the Gafs, while Trumpy exclaims like a really stupid unfunny comic, that spouts a never ending hate speech intent on dividing the insecure, by playing on their insecurities, with those different than they, that he is the path to righteousness . Cause who else would you want your children to emulate, besides a constant producer of all kinds of Hate! say like say one found guilty of a play RAPE date, or a playboy friend of Epstein the one who liked em young and lean?

or maybe one that has to just grab em buy that PUSSY

and apparently, not all of them just let em, unless he’s got $5-13 MILLION, or a $130,000.00 per pop pop

asx he cheats on his wives all white, but it’s okay , he’s white and (not at all) Right ?

Racially charges into the fight, with a weaponry not correct or right, cause guess what white posters, Trumpy ain’t wrapped too Tight, nor are those so easily swayed buy their bought asses, cause Trumpy certainly does, know how to grab and or buy, him sum asses!

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.5.5  arkpdx  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.5.4    3 months ago
 he cheats on his wives all white, but it’s okay , he’s white 

Apparently not since those wives left him and divorced him. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.5.6  arkpdx  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.5.4    3 months ago

You seemed to think it was ok that Billy boy got a BJ under the desk in the oval office. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
7.5.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @7.5.2    3 months ago
why not just make up shit as you go.

Biden is racist, and he cheated on Jill with blow up dolls.  See, I can do it too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.5.9  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @7.5.6    3 months ago

Deflection and sounds like you're jealous

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.5.10  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @7.5.3    3 months ago
To some, every Republican is a racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, or whatever they dream up.

Don't forget fascist.

That seems to be the new favorite.

 
 
 
George
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7.5.11  George  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.5.8    3 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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7.5.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  George @7.5.11    3 months ago

During, he liked threesomes

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.5.13  Tessylo  replied to  George @7.5.11    3 months ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
7.5.14  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.5.12    3 months ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.5.15  Texan1211  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.5.4    3 months ago

Please at least try to relate posts to me to something I have written.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.5.16  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @7.5.10    3 months ago
Don't forget fascist. That seems to be the new favorite.

Just like those other terms, just another word after constant misuse of the word.

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Krishna
Professor Expert
7.5.17  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @7.5    3 months ago
Maybe he will say she sounds like she should be working in a 7-11

Some Indians are workers in 711's-- but many of them are owners!

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.5.18  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @7.5.17    3 months ago

OK...and?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.5.19  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @7.5.17    3 months ago
Some Indians are workers in 711's-- but many of them are owners!

Might want to inform the President.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.5.20  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @7.5.19    3 months ago
Might want to inform the President.

That's true.

I believe when he made his bigoted comment about Indians and 7-11,he never mentioned anything about them owning one.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.5.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @7.5.17    3 months ago

"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.5.22  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @7.5.17    3 months ago

Maybe he will say she sounds like she should be working in a 7-11

Some Indians are workers in 711's-- but many of them are owners!

(711's especially in big cities-- IIRC in more rural areas many are owners of Motel 6's). Nationwide Indian-Americans are over-represented (often as CEOs) in Technology, business, as doctors, etc:

M edian Household Income by detailed ancestry
Rank Ancestry Income (US$)
1 Indian 152,141
2 Filipino 101,157
3 Iranian 96,056
4 South African 94,159
5 Argentine 93,798
6 Lebanese 92,697
7 European 91,857
8 Macedonian 91,852
9 Russian 90,296
10 Austrian 89,459
11 Croatian 88,325
12 Turkish 87,648
13 Lithuanian 87,433
14 Greek 87,428
15 British 87,288
16 Swiss 85,543
17 Albanian 85,092
18 Serbian 84,607
19 Danish 84,520
20 Scandinavian 84,518
21 Bulgarian 84,437
22 Italian 84,416
23 Slovene 84,261
24 Czech 83,823
25 Armenian 83,756
26 Slovak 83,755
27 Ukrainian 83,723
28 Guyanese 83,412
29 Scottish 83,342
30 Portuguese 82,925
31 Polish 82,846
32 Swedish 82,731
33 Syrian 82,532
34 Belgian 82,469
35 Israeli 82,436
36 Romanian 81,768
37 Canadian 81,576
38 English 81,200
39 Norwegian 81,168
40 Hungarian 80,684
41 Finnish 79,215
42 German 78,960
43 Irish 78,949
44 Yugoslav 78,560
45 Welsh 78,025
46 Scotch-Irish 77,802
47 French Canadian 76,292
48 French 75,783
49 Palestinian 75,521
50 Czechoslovakian 75,453
51 Egyptian 74,848
52 Dutch 74,717
53 Arab [a] 72,943
54 Slavic 72,787
55 Nigerian 72,577
56 Ghanaian 72,089
57 Barbadian 72,053
58 Trinidadian and Tobagonian 71,920
59 Brazilian 70,904
60 Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac 70,692
61 Cajun 66,476
62 Jamaican 65,789
63 Jordanian 65,607
64 Belizean 63,785
65 West Indian [b] 63,597
66 Pennsylvania Dutch 62,436
67 Moroccan 61,773
68 Haitian 60,169
69 American 59,995
70 Subsaharan African [c] 58,881
71 Ethiopian 58,507
72 Iraqi 57,067
73 Afghan 52,197
74 Appalachian 49,747

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.5.23  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.5.21    3 months ago
"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

Here's a bit more information about this group:

Indian Americans generally are well-off. Median annual household income for Indian Americans in 2010 was $88,000, much higher than for all Asian Americans ($66,000) and all U.S. households ($49,800) — perhaps not surprising, given their high education levels.

Only 9% of adult Indian Americans live in poverty, compared with 12% of Asian Americans overall and 13% of the U.S. population.

In 2010, by our analysis, 28% of Indian American worked in science and engineering fields; according to the 2013 American Community Survey, more than two-thirds (69.3%) of Indian Americans 16 and older were in management, business, science and arts occupations.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.5.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @7.5.23    3 months ago

So much for white privilege.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.5.25  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.5.24    3 months ago
So much for white privilege.

That raises an interesting question, well actually two:

1. Are they "White"-- if not what "race" are they?

2. What "privileges" do immigrants from a third world country have in the U.S.? 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.5.26  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.5.24    3 months ago

They are Caucasian.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.5.27  Split Personality  replied to  Krishna @7.5.25    3 months ago
Pakistanis are Caucasians with Australoid ancestors . Indians are Australoid with Caucasian ancestors. Afghans are Caucasians with mongoloid ancestors. Overall, only ten percent of Indians are related to twenty-five percent of Pakistanis. Pakistan has more Caucasian genes than Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and parts of North Africa combined.
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.5.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @7.5.26    3 months ago

Our government doesn’t seem to think so;

”Most Indian populations, the researchers found, are primarily mixtures of 2 ancestral groups, which they call the Ancestral North Indians (ANI) and the Ancestral South Indians (ASI). Interestingly, a higher ANI proportion is associated with traditionally higher caste groups.”

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/understanding-indian-ancestry#:~:text=Most%20Indian%20populations%2C%20the%20researchers,with%20traditionally%20higher%20caste%20groups.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
7.5.29  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.5.12    3 months ago

During, he liked threesomes

512

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Interesting that occupy democrats was one of the first groups to start calling her Nimarata.

By May 5, (2016) the post by Occupy Democrats , an advocacy group created to provide "an online counterbalance to the Republican 'Tea Party,'" had been shared 8,400 times.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    3 months ago

If you can, tell us why Trump called her "Nimrada" over the past few days. What is the reason?  And dont say it is because "Occupy Democrats" did 8 years ago. 

Are you enthusiastic about having a racist asshole in charge of our country next year ? 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    3 months ago
By May 5, (2016) the post by Occupy Democrats , an advocacy group created to provide "an online counterbalance to the Republican 'Tea Party,'" had been shared 8,400 times.

Only 8.400 times? I'm surprised it was so few. 

What do you think accounts for that?

 
 

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