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White Crowds Fill the Pews for Trump’s Visit to Black Church

  
Via:  John Russell  •  5 months ago  •  86 comments


White Crowds Fill the Pews for Trump’s Visit to Black Church
While the event was ostensibly about issues facing Black voters, and some Black pro-Trump personalities like Peezy and Icewear Vezzo showed up, social media lit up at footage showing the pews packed with white crowds.

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At least half the audience appears to be white. 

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White Crowds Fill the Pews for Trump’s Visit to Black Church


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Donald Trump   visited Detroit on Saturday, a city he once called a “living hell,” and staged a surprise “roundtable” at 180 Church, a predominately Black congregation on the city’s outskirts. While the event was ostensibly about issues facing Black voters, and some Black pro-Trump personalities like Peezy and Icewear Vezzo showed up, social media lit up at footage showing the pews packed with white crowds.

“It’s all lies, smoke, and mirrors,” Jeff Timmer, a senior adviser for the anti-Trump Lincoln Project, wrote on X. Axios reporter Sam Robinson said much of the “roundtable” featured Trump talking to the crowd, largely about opposing LGBTQ causes. Still, one participant praised him for visiting and said Barack Obama and Joe Biden “never came to the hood.”

The church’s pastor, Lorenzo Sewell, told   Reuters   he initially thought he was “being punked” when the Trump campaign reached out. “That began to move my heart because people that are disenfranchised, pushed aside, and marginalized typically don’t have a voice at the table,” he said.




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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    5 months ago

We were always taught to take our hats off in church. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

Did Trump have a tray passed around for collection?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    5 months ago

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Hallux
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1.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    5 months ago

Available in Canada at Zazzle:

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @1.1.2    5 months ago

How could a Trump supporter resist?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.2  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

I was in church yesterday - there were mean and women in fancy suits and dresses, there were a few folks in shorts (it was hot), there were some folks in their work clothes and there were folks with hats on (some fancy and a few ball caps).  There were folks of a variety of colors and backgrounds, the only thing we are really had in common was that we were neighbors and we came to church.

And everyone was welcome, no one was out of place - there were democrats, there were republicans, there were undecided independents and there were folks that have little interest in politics.  The crowd is different each Sunday because were have no set numbers for races, ethnicities, well-dressed vs casual.

All who show up are welcome and are in the right place.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.2    5 months ago

Your comment presupposes that all those white people would have been there next Sunday for regular services. Sorry, thats not what this is. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    5 months ago

Well if that is the case, this church doesn't have much of a following.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.2.3  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    5 months ago

And your comment presupposes the opposite.

Neither of us can be certain now can we?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.2.3    5 months ago

I am certain that this church is not half filled with white people every week. You can believe whatever you want. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    5 months ago

You must be trying to make a point. What is it?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.2.6  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    5 months ago

You too may believe whatever you want that is what is wonderful about our country.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.2.6    5 months ago

What John believes is likely the truth.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.8  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    5 months ago
I am certain that this church is not half filled with white people every week.

Can you really be, though?

After all, Joe Biden himself said he was raised in a black church. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.2.9  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.7    5 months ago

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Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    5 months ago

Nothing burger #659 …..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @2    5 months ago

There also appeared to be empty pews.

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Sparty On
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2.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    5 months ago

Lots of heathens out there ….

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    5 months ago

Better have that camera zoom back in- it accidently showed some blacks in attendance.

Oh the horror of having a narrative shot to hell!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.2    5 months ago

The guy on the right as well as the guy in the red hat are both black as is the man on the left of the picture.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.3    5 months ago

Wow, you found TWO.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    5 months ago

Especially at about 8:41 of this video tape

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    5 months ago

Why do you think anyone would watch any of that garbage?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.6    5 months ago
Why do you think anyone would watch any of that garbage?

Maybe to learn something or be able to back up the claims they are making.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3  Robert in Ohio    5 months ago

"Red and yellow, black and white they are precious in his sight"

Jesus loves the little children and the older people too.

Do you think anyone thought that no one would notice that some of the congregants were white?

Really did you think that?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3    5 months ago

If you want to brag about how much the black community loves you, half the audience for your visit to a black church should not be white. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    5 months ago

Are you suggesting that those "white people" should have been denied attendance to the service?

That seems to be contrary to the inclusion message How many white people in the audience would have okay in your opinion?  2%, 5%, 0%  What is your number?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.1    5 months ago

Oh boy. 

 
 
 
George
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3.1.3  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    5 months ago

What does the normal audience look like John? 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    5 months ago

How would you know?    Detroit is a very integrated city.    “Black” churches have many white members and “white” churches have plenty of black members.

You allusion otherwise is bigoted as hell.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.4    5 months ago

Lol - you are so wrong.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.5    5 months ago

Nope but you and John certainly are.

Sad

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.6    5 months ago

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From this angle, the white contingent appears to be much more than half. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.8  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    5 months ago

Except for on the raised platform it appears nearly all white...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.6    5 months ago

A camera pan of the audience shows the great majority of them are white.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @3.1.8    5 months ago

it does

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    5 months ago

Still, in the end, a nothing burger.

Trump was there, Biden was in LA begging Hollywood millionaires for money.    

Thinking people, no matter what color, can tell the difference.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.11    5 months ago

A white congregation at a black church means that either the blacks didnt want to come or were not allowed to come. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.12    5 months ago

lol …. and the conspiracy theories just keep coming.   Meanwhile Biden is rubbing elbows with Clooney and Roberts

Amazing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.5    5 months ago

As usual.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 months ago

Talk about missing the point.

Whoosh!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.16  Gsquared  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.13    5 months ago

And the week before Trump was meeting with a group of plutocrats begging them to give him $1 billion for his campaign.

The hypocrisy is real.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    5 months ago

My white parents attend a black church and have for about 20 years.  I only bring this up because there are no other white people in that church and never have been since Presbytery banished their former white preacher to the black church for not catering enough to the biggest donors in the white church.  My parents protested this injustice by following him to his new church, and even though that preacher is long since gone they have stayed there.  Church is pretty much the most segregated institution in this country.  White people in a black church in Detroit is fairy tale.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    5 months ago

There is a church here in Chicago , St Sabinas, that is very well known locally because the pastor, Fr. Michael Pfleger , has been a social justice activist for 40 years. 

Sometimes when clips from their services are in the news, you see a few white people in the overwhelmingly black congregation.  These whites are usually people that have ties to the church going back decades and decades when there will still whites living in the neighborhood. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    5 months ago

It’s probably an attractive church with some fancy architecture.  There were a few other couples that joined with my parents in their exodus, but that lasted only a few weeks.  I’d like to think that they just missed their fancy, lily white church fellowship, and not that they were succumbing to some racist urges.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    5 months ago
White people in a black church in Detroit is fairy tale.

Bullshit.    How many Detroit churches have you been to?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @4.2    5 months ago

I have more insight that you, if you can read.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.1    5 months ago

You’ve got nothing but one church in God knows what city.    Allegedly……

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.3  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @4.2    5 months ago

The "Fairy Tale" is that black voters are moving towards Trump.

Perhaps dissatisfied with Biden they are not voting for Trump...

I will be very surprised if Trump breaks 10% with black voters!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @4.2.3    5 months ago

Keep telling yourself that

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.2    5 months ago

And you have nothing but slavish devotion to an orange god.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.6  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.5    5 months ago

I’ve got the truth.    

I ask again, how many Detroit churches have you been in?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.7  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.4    5 months ago

Trump topped himself be getting 8% of black votes in 2020!

Minority and women voters will give Biden his winning edge,

Again!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.2.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @4.2.7    5 months ago

30% of black males and 11% of black females are intending to vote Trump. Biden can't win with those stats.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.9  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @4.2.7    5 months ago

So sez the hive …..

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.10  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.6    5 months ago

Twice you have asked this obvious atheist how many black churches in Detroit I attended.  It’s no wonder you will be voting for Trump.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.11  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.10    5 months ago

Don’t flatter yourself.   Why would I have any idea “what” you are or care for that matter.     I wouldn’t and don’t.

So you’ve never been in a Detroit church and have no idea what you are talking about.    Noted.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.12  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.11    5 months ago

Next you’ll be telling us about all the black churches in Detroit that you attend.  Ok, Whoopie.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.13  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.12    5 months ago

Yes, I’ve been in numerous “black” Detroit churches over the years and am not just making shit up like some here.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.1    5 months ago

You have lots.  Some have none.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.8    5 months ago

The National Review?

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Such a trustworthy source.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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4.2.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.15    5 months ago

When you've got nothing, attack the source.

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.17  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.16    5 months ago

You should get back with us after (very highly unlikely) Trump gets over 10% of America's black votes on November 5th...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.2.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @4.2.17    5 months ago

Will do.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.16    5 months ago

You've got nothing.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.2.17    5 months ago

cnn has him at 21% in a “historic shift”

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.21  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.20    5 months ago

Denial is the flavor of the year for some …..

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.22  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.16    5 months ago

It's a far-right whack job conspiracy theory laden 'source' with absolutely no credibility.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.23  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.22    5 months ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.2.24  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.22    5 months ago

Hold on to that reeeeal tight LOL

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Factual Reporting:  MOSTLY FACTUAL
Country:  USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating:   MOSTLY FREE
Media Type:  Magazine
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MBFC Credibility Rating:  HIGH CREDIBILITY

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.24    5 months ago

Absolutely no credibility

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.2.26  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.25    5 months ago
MBFC Credibility Rating:  HIGH CREDIBILITY

Yeah riiiiiight

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.27  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.26    5 months ago

None.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.16    5 months ago

time for ignore

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.29  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.28    5 months ago

I may be confusing National Review with some other far right wing whack job site that the maga are fond of posting.  If someone could help me out I'd appreciate it.  

I checked it out and, like I said, I could be wrong - but it doesn't seem hateful and cuckoo for cocoa puffs like a lot of the garbage the defenders of the indefensible are fond of posting

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.30  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.29    5 months ago

Possibly something with a similar name to ensnare the easily led/fooled/fools

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4.2.31  Gsquared  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.6    5 months ago
I've got the truth.

Searching your comments.  Where would we find it?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.3  JBB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    5 months ago

I have attended black churches with friends on occasions and when it came to the time where the pastor asked for any guests to identify and introduce themselves every face in the congregation looked at me!

And, I am only, um, whitish...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JBB @4.3    5 months ago

I’ve never attended my parents church (for obvious reasons), but I have volunteered there to pack groceries for the poor.  The neighborhood is pretty scary.  There are some more diverse neighborhoods in the area, but not this one.  White people are generally not comfortable there.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.3.2  JBB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.1    5 months ago

The Biden campaign has minority outreach, voter registration and get out the vote efforts up and running in every state. This while the Trump campus is lining the pockets of grifters and lawyers...

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.3.3  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @4.3.2    5 months ago

Meanwhile Biden is rubbing elbows with rich white bread.

Clooney, Robert’s, etc

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
4.3.4  fineline  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.3    5 months ago

Must have a very large cloak room in that church. Did they hang all the white sheets or fold and stack !

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.5  bugsy  replied to  fineline @4.3.4    5 months ago
Did they hang all the white sheets or fold and stack !

No, that wasn't inflammatory. s/

Keep in mind, however, that it was democrats that sported this costume for more than a century, so maybe these white folks were nothing more than leftists telling blacks they better watch out if they vote for Trump. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
4.3.6  Hallux  replied to  Sparty On @4.3.3    5 months ago
Meanwhile Biden is rubbing elbows with rich white bread.

400 Clooneys = 1 Musk.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.3.7  Sparty On  replied to  Hallux @4.3.6    5 months ago

Oh how the mighty have fallen eh?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5  Kavika     5 months ago

Perhaps those white folks in the church were ''passers''.

 
 

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