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Trump Shooter A Republican

  
By:  John Russell  •  5 months ago  •  62 comments


Trump Shooter A Republican
The Gateway Pundit and other lying right wing sources say this meaningless because Crooks may have registered as a Republican just to vote against Trump in the 2024  Republican presidential primary. 

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Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20 years old, was identified by the FBI as the person who attempted to kill Donald Trump. 

According to internet sleuths Crooks was a registered Republican and a voter registration document confirms this. 

The Gateway Pundit and other lying right wing sources say this meaningless because Crooks may have registered as a Republican just to vote against Trump in the 2024  Republican presidential primary. 

You have to be an idiot to accept Gateway Pundits premise,  so many of the far right do just that. 

Thomas Matthew Crooks turned 18 in September of 2021.  Not so coincidentally Sep of '21 is when he registered to vote, as a Republican.  In Sep of 21 Trump was not even a presidential candidate. Get the picture? 

Lying stupidity is rampant on social media, and it must be said from both sides, although it is far more prevalent from the right, in my opinion. 

Extremist conspiracy lunatics like Gateway Pundit do not think, do not check and double check what they say, they just attack. 

The attempted assassin called himself a Republican, at least when he signed up to vote. We await further accurate developments. 

Oh by the way, credible sources say he may have been wearing a pro -gun t shirt at the time of the shooting. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    5 months ago

Trump said "fight like hell" and a half hour later there was a violent riot at the Capitol , but Trump is blameless. 

Biden mentions "bullseye" in a political context and he right away guilty of targeting Trump for violence ? 

This is the way our "conservatives" think. It is all a one way street. 

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      Bullseye

  • used to refer to something that achieves exactly the intended effect:
    "the silence told him he'd scored a bullseye"
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

Sorry to say this, JR, but I was my high school rifle marksman champion, and the word "bullseye" means only one thing to me notwithstanding its having a lesser-known secondary meaning, even if it's another way of saying hitting the nail on the head, which is certainly a more common way of saying what you've defined. 

However, all that doen't mean that Crooks saw Biden's "bullseye" comment, or his being provoked by it even if he did.  It's just my opinion (and I believe that of many others) that using the expression that Biden did might well have been considered by some to be a suggestion, especially by those who happen to own the right kind of gun and happens to have a mental health problem.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    5 months ago

I don't think so.  It was no suggestion.  Many others believe anything the fucking traitor says.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    5 months ago

Just as many others take seriously what Biden says - that should be no surprise, just as many believe whatever bullshit they read or hear.  The days of truth that could be relied upon left with Walter Cronkite.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    5 months ago

I just watched the CGTN News broadcast.  It made a particular point about Biden using the word "bullseye".  I'm not the only one who thinks it could have been a factor.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

So what? Gabby Giffords shooter was a loony liberal?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

Sarah pitbull Palin put Gabby Giffords 'in the crosshairs' yet no one mentions that.  There is no other meaning for 'in the crosshairs'

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    5 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 months ago

I look forward to you and others progressives to treat  Biden for his targeting language the same way you treated Palin.   

how can you vote for someone you think is guilty of attempted murder?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    5 months ago

"bullseye" has more than one meaning, and is used in more than one context.  

I'm sure you are smart enough to understand that. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 months ago
bullseye" has more than one meaning, and is used in more than one context

Then why did you blame Palin? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 months ago

I'd also ask how you believe a tweet by Tom Emmer saying "Fire Nancy Pelosi" caused a deranged homeless man to attack Nancy Pelosi's husband,

but Biden's call to target Trump didn't cause his attempted assassination. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    5 months ago

I dont know how you would know if I blamed Palin since Newstalkers did not exist in 2010. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    5 months ago

Crooks may have registered as a Republican just to vote against Trump in the 2024  Republican presidential primary.

There are so many conspiracies one could spin up about this event.  Engaging any of them is an exercise in futility.  If it were Biden that was the target Q would already be calling it a false flag and that Biden’s security squirted ketchup packets on his ear.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

I’m a registered democrat.  Every democrat who voted in the republican primary to stop trump is now a registered republican. 

the more telling fact is that he donated money to an extreme left wing organization, ACT BLUE.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 months ago
the more telling fact is that he donated money to an extreme left wing organization, ACT BLUE.

Your analysis is entirely wrong.  Crooks donated to a Democratic group when he was 17.  He registered to vote as a Republican when he was 18. On the face of it this might indicate he changed his mind between 17 and 18 years of age.  

He registered to vote as soon as he turned 18, as many people do.  His registration as a Republican appears to have NOTHING to do with him wanting to vote against Trump in a Pennsylvania primary. 

On the face of it he was a "liberal" who turned Republican LATER. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    5 months ago

is registration as a Republican appears to have NOTHING to do with him wanting to vote against Trump in a Pennsylvania primary. 

You have no idea what motivated his registration. You've claimed to know Trump was running since he lost. Maybe, he, like I, wanted to voted in a primary or reasons that had nothing to do with Presidential politics and never changed it. 

We do know he gave his money to a hard left group favored by Progressives and tried to kill the Republican Presidential nominee. . 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    5 months ago

He registered Republican as an 18 year old just so he could vote against Trump 2 1/2 years later. Sure, keep telling yourself that. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    5 months ago

Right, because between the ages of 17 and 18 people change their entire world view./S

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    5 months ago
On the face of it this might indicate he changed his mind

I'd say he changed his mind again.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    5 months ago
year old just so he could vote against Trump 2 1/2 years later. Sure, keep telling yourself that.

I'm telling you,  based on my own literal experience, that not everyone is registered for the party actually tend to vote with. 

No one, that I'm aware of, gives their own money to ideological activist groups they oppose. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    5 months ago

Your comment history shows that your understanding of the derangement that it would take to do such a thing, is sophomoric at best.    So you are not the best judge in this case.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 months ago
the more telling fact is that he donated money to an extreme left wing organization, ACT BLUE.

nonsense

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 months ago

The donation was earmarked for the Progressive Turnout Project, a national group that rallies Democrats to vote.  How extreme!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3    5 months ago

the most likely motive is that he was a gun nut who wanted to be famous

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3    5 months ago

Republicans always donate to Democrat organizations.

Keep twisting yourself into a pretzel.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3.2    5 months ago

He became a Republican after he was a "leftist" .    That is apparently the fact. 

If he became a "leftist" after being a Republican you would have an infinitely stronger point. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.3.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3.2    5 months ago

Some Trump supporter said the shooter was plainly visible on the roof with his rifle, and that some supporters were yelling and pointing to Trump’s security about it just before it happened.  How is it that Trump’s sharpshooting security staff were not seeing what the complete morons around them were seeing?  Starting to look like an inside job.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.3.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.4    5 months ago
w is it that Trump’s sharpshooting security staff   

YOu mean the secret service? 

Starting to look like an inside job.

Why did Biden's secret service deny trump's request for more protection? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.3.6  Greg Jones  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.4    5 months ago

Yeah, "Trump's security detail" was the Secret Service, FBI, and other law enforcement. They dropped the ball on this one. Why were roofed buildings with a direct line of sight to the stage not covered? Mayorkas denies that requests by Trump campaign for more security assets were turned down.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.3.7  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3.5    5 months ago

Why did Biden's secret service deny trump's request for more protection? 

That's already been refuted by both the FBI and the Secret Service. 
There have been several comments from attendees who stated that security at the event seemed rather loose so I expect a review by the Secret Service and a few heads may roll but I do expect a lot of reassignments from this.
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.3.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.4    5 months ago

now there's a conspiracy theory....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.3.9  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.4    5 months ago

Exactly--he was on the roof for quite a while and nothing was done about him until AFTER he started shooting.

I really do believe it was an inside job/false flag

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.3.10  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3.5    5 months ago

What request for more protection?  Looks like the fat turd had plenty.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.3.11  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.4    5 months ago

Kind of interesting - there was no blood seen on his ear - which was nicked by the teleprompter -- not a bullet - until after his ss detail lifted him up - and he was down there for a bit

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
4.3.12  bccrane  replied to  Tessylo @4.3.11    5 months ago
there was no blood seen on his ear -

Your body isn't like a balloon full of blood, when impacted, other than the blood immediately in the tissue that explodes, the blood is pushed back in the tissue and it takes a little time to start flowing out of the wound.  If you ever hunted you would see this, where the bullet passed through the body of say a deer, where the bullet exited there is a blood spatter pattern, but the animal doesn't start bleeding out until after it has traveled a little distance, in other words, after a poor shot.

which was nicked by the teleprompter -- not a bullet

Does that even matter?  He was SHOT AT and the bullets were intended for him.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
4.4  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @4    5 months ago

Registration actually means nothing, proof of how one leans rests in how they actually vote, and unless someone tells how they vote, no one can say.

 I am of the opinion, because of the age, he likely registered the same party as his immediate family members ,most likely his parents or geandparents, like many kids do at first , until they figure out for themselves where they fit politically and what they believe.

Me, I'm registered independent, but I'm sure many on site will swear I'm far rightwing, maga or such, I say that because it's happened.

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
4.4.1  bccrane  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @4.4    5 months ago

The other thing about his registration is it more than likely coincided with his selective service registration and when asked if he also wanted to register to vote he dutifully filled it out also at the spur of the moment without much thought.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  author  JohnRussell    5 months ago

Meanwhile Ann Coulter wants to know why girls are allowed to become secret service agents. 

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Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5    5 months ago

that twat waffle can kiss my fat ass

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
6  Drakkonis    5 months ago

What's the point of trying to poke each other in the eye with speculations? No one knows anything about the shooter except basic details. Maybe we should wait to see what the investigation reveals and hope that it's somewhere near the truth? Then discuss it? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @6    5 months ago
Maybe we should wait to see what the investigation reveals and hope that it's somewhere near the truth?

The MAGA right will not accept any investigation that does not show it was a godless communist Bidenista that did this.  

The only people who will accept an investigation are the ones who are not Trump fanatics. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    5 months ago
"The MAGA right will not accept any investigation that does not show it was a godless communist Bidenista that did this."

The Bideniista's might not have pulled the trigger, but they provided the literal gun and ammunition. The lefts hate campaign against Trump has been persistent and intense, inciting left wing wackos to act out.

 
 
 
George
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6.1.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    5 months ago
The MAGA right will not accept any investigation that does not show it was a godless communist Bidenista that did this.

That is hysterical coming from someone who in less than a day posted an article saying he is a republican, and the fact that he donated to far left causes is irrelevant, and posting that bullseye doesn’t mean what we all know it means. Who won’t accept facts that don’t match their ideology?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  George @6.1.2    5 months ago

I have removed the rest of this thread for taunting. Knock it off. Only warning.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.8  author  JohnRussell  replied to  George @6.1.2    5 months ago

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Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.8    5 months ago

I don’t know.    Do you?

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
6.1.10  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    4 months ago
The MAGA right will not accept any investigation that does not show it was a godless communist Bidenista that did this.

For some I'm sure that's true. Same goes for those on the left, though. We've seen at least one person in here who refuses to believe that this was a real attempt on Trump's life.  

Right now, people on both sides already know what they want this event to be, what caused it, where it's going to go and so on, regardless of facts, or how little of them there are at this point. Take a look at the title of the article, for instance, which may not be true. What we can say is that this guy registered as a republican. We do not yet know if he considered himself a republican on that day. One can argue that he must not have been, since he tried to kill Trump, but that may not be true, either. It may turn out that he had little in the way of political motive for what he did. At this point we simply don't know. We may never know. Yet, it seems people are determined to build an argument on what they most likely want to be true or are influenced by what they want to be true.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7  Drinker of the Wry    5 months ago

Perhaps he registered Repub so he could vote in the Repub primary.  Wasn’t that a Dem strategy to either try to block Trump picks or to help the most right wing candidate depending on the race.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7    5 months ago

Why wouldnt a Democrat want to vote in the Democratic primary? 

This "logic" is so tortured. 

He registered Republican two and a half years before Trump came on a Pennsylvania ballot.  Lets get real. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    5 months ago
He registered Republican two and a half years before Trump came on a Pennsylvania ballot.  Lets get real. 

The Dem strategy was in full gear in the 22 race.  

I qualified my comment with perhaps,  I’ve learned that early speculation is one of the games on NT.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.1    5 months ago

The intended implication is that he registered as a Republican IN ORDER to vote against Trump, WHO WAS NOT EVEN A CANDIDATE  at the time Crooks registered to vote. 

Crooks registered to vote BECAUSE he had just turned 18. No other reason. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    5 months ago
Crooks registered to vote BECAUSE he had just turned 18. No other reason. 

See, you like the speculation game here, as well.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
7.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7    5 months ago

Liz Cheney made a call publicly here for Dems to cross over register as republicans and vote for her in the primary she lost. Problem was there were not enough registered Dems in the state to make a difference.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
7.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @7.2    5 months ago

Being a Cheney, she is part of the Bush era cabal.    Once Trump hammered on Jeb, he because persona non grata with that group.    Liza has been never Trumping ever since.

I never liked her much.    Long before she was an elected official.    When she was just a commentator on Sunday morning news shows.    Always sounded like a blowhard to me.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
8  Thrawn 31    5 months ago

His motivations aside, can we just focus on how shitty of a shooter her was? Prone position, long barrel rifle, couple hundred feet away, stationary target… and he misses. Dude, even a horrible shot could hit the target under those conditions. Did he never beezo his sights?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
8.1  bugsy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8    4 months ago

So you are pissed he was not more accurate.

 
 

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