Oh come on Vic, this is a perfect example of falsely attributing good to Trump. This is the kind of crap we will see for years now and Trump supporters will blindly suck it up.
Our nation is so deep into propaganda now; it is sickening to watch.
The electorate just elected a scoundrel to the presidency rather than a positive, youthful, team who would work for the people instead of for himself and you (bizarrely) think that this was a result of the media giving unfair positive bias to Harris rather than to Trump.
The media should have been fact checking and countering the endless lies of Trump. Instead, the propaganda of Trump resulted in the majority actually believing what he said.
The idea that the media was trying to prevent Trump from winning is a huge fraud on the public. The mainstream media doesnt care who the president is. The day after the election the owner of the Washington Post publicly congratulated Trump on his "great victory".
Oh it's true. After all, any self-respecting media when told in so many ways to "eff off" by a candidate for president (of all personages) . . . .should have not given him EARNED MEDIA (free media). But, it did for the decency of it all. The MSM showed up and broadcasted the "performances" live in many cases.
"Our nation is so deep into propaganda now; it is sickening to watch."
Yes it is, the country got tired of all the lies, bulllshitery, dishonesty, and unpatriotic actions and attitudes of the far left that has pretty much been running the Biden/Harris administration.
The mainstream media failed miserably. There was only one important decision in this election: would America continue as a democracy, or become a dictatorship. The media almost never made the case.
The mainstream media failed miserably. There was only one important decision in this election: would America continue as a democracy, or become a dictatorship. The media almost never made the case.
How? The mainstream media has been a Trump show since 2016. The public knows much, much, much more about Trump than any other Washington politician.
An unelected bureaucracy imposing regulations onto people, whether they like or not, is not a feature of democracy. A technocratic autocracy is still unaccountable to voters. In fact, some parts of the technocratic autocracy is unaccountable to elected government. That's not how democracy works.
It just never ceases to amaze me how some have the audacity to speak of "lies, bulllshitery, dishonesty, and unpatriotic actions and attitudes" of others while giving Trump, the poster child for same, a total pass. The blindness is staggering.
Not when Fox is there in full force unabashedly lying and spinning for Trump. There needs to be a balance and the rest of the media did not provide it. They treated Trump like a normal candidate instead of the outrageous and dangerous buffoon that he is.
That is why I often say that, despite appearances or allowances for truth and other 'devices' and techniques used by media to get a/its points across: The media is not a friend of anyone. Such people live to hear/talk/report in or out of 'season.'
Once upon a time, some news organizations tried to inform the public about what was going on. But even in the best of times there was "Give me the stories and I'll give you the war!"
Since forever, most media is mainly about making money. Some media believe that good reporting is profitable. It's up to consumers to choose well.
hen Fox is there in full force unabashedly lying and spinning for Trump. T
This is the most ludicrous of all possible takes. Even if Fox was everything you claim it to be, it has a couple million viewers, tops. Its impact is dwarfed by the rest of the media, popular culture, education, and advertising, all of which are dominated by the Democratic Party.
At this point, it seems progressives won't be happy until the media literally takes the ballot from voters and votes for the Democrat.
Even if Fox was everything you claim it to be, it has a couple million viewers, tops. Its impact is dwarfed by the rest of the media, popular culture, education, and advertising, all of which are dominated by the Democratic Party.
I see a fair amount of Fox News content and I dont even have the station in my streaming packages. It is all over social media and You Tube. The amount of live viewers is the smallest part of their influence.
Even if Fox was everything you claim it to be, it has a couple million viewers, tops.
Fox is the dominant media outlet in MSM and is highly trusted by Republicans (major failure). That is why I mentioned them as the prime example. Hello?
see a fair amount of Fox News content and I dont even have the station in my streaming packages.
I'm sure. It's a staple of left wing media to obsess over Fox News.
The amount of live viewers is the smallest part of their influence.
And that goes for all other progressive media too, from Morning Joe to Jimmy Kimmel.
Do you not realize how absurd it is to complain about the influence of Fox News stacked up against pretty much every other form of news and entertainment that is available to voters and favors Democrats?
There is a distinction first off that FOX is not trading in newsworthiness. It is at 1.1.21 'entertainment' (and thus not to be trusted for news). The other news organizations have ethics and standards of journalism to abide by which causes them to be accountable for what they pen and broadcast. Mark the distinction.
For the record, this "leftist" has done a RESET on President-elect Trump. I have ARCHIVED his past dealings through the November 5 election date. It is not erased however. Full Stop. He has a new slate as of right now on my 'book.' Let's see how he uses it.
Agreed, ignorance is bliss. Problem is I’m not the blissful one here.
The US pays about $28 per capita in fossil fuel subsidies. Roughly 60th in the world. Below such fine government systems as Australia, Sweden, France, Germany, Canada and Spain.
My source is fine. The source you’ve provided for the numbers you’re trying to pass of as real is questionable at best but feel free to back it up with a more believable source.
Even Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. shared the headline and claimed, "It took about 12 hours after my father's election win for Hamas to call for peace! @realDonaldTrump isn't even president yet and he's already getting it done. Spectacular."
It's true that Hamas spokesperson Basem Naim delivered a statement about the Israel-Hamas conflict to Newsweek on Nov. 6, the day after Trump was elected. However, Trump's supporters misleadingly characterized that statement as a call for an end to the war, when in fact Naim called for, in his words, an end to Israel's "aggression against our people, especially in Gaza," and an end to what he described as the United States' "blind support" for Israel.
Putin is ready to end the war, as long as he gets what he wants
MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin is ready to discuss Ukraine with Donald Trump but that does not mean he is willing to alter Moscow's demands, the Kremlin said on Friday.
Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov made the remarks after being asked at his daily news briefing if Putin's readiness to talk to the Republican president-elect reflected a willingness to change those demands.
"The president has never said that the goals of the special military operation are changing. On the contrary, he has repeatedly said that they remain the same," Peskov said.
"All this concerns the security interests of our country, the security interests of the Russian people living there. Therefore, there was no talk of any changes here."
The seeded meme is more right wing disinformation. Donald Trump Jr, who is promoting this disinformation is one of the key people organizing the new administration.
"All this concerns the security interests of our country, the security interests of the Russian people living there. Therefore, there was no talk of any changes here."
Putin is ready to end the war, as long as he gets what he wants
It only took three years for Democrats to figure that out? You know, if Biden had talked to Putin three years ago then maybe the war could have been avoided.
On the otherhand, all minorities (including liberals according to this election) are due for closer 'inspection' now. That said, I move back into the proper stream of disussion.
Four more years of this. For the record, I will be screening my cable news shows, because I don't need "this" in my life.
Smart move. I did it several years ago other than channel surfing (no more than 5 minutes) and sometimes Gutfeld depending on who he has on. I stopped watching the 5 a while back because I think Jesse and the judge are morons but I sometimes like to hear what Dana, Greg, Jessica and Harold Ford Jr have to say.
It's all 'fantastic' bull at times, yes. But its the 'only' game in towns across the country. Though, I heard a pundit state that new forms of media are pervasive nowadays and into the future. BTW, I am 'open' more than ever to a new THIRD PARTY politically. The present parties (and takeover groups) have gotten too big for their "britches' and need to be refreshed/reset in the 'worse' ways.
It will be interesting to see how podcasts change the media landscape. It seems you get a better reading of a person in a podcast without the person just going for soundbites as they do on cable news.
That potentially is because podcasts have the 'luxury' of being relaxed and less corporatized, and novel. Remember the media is well-practiced and reasonably old at what they do. . .so they have ironed out most of the kinks in their business models and unfortunately have learned how to manipulate nearly all the good and bad 'tricks of the trade' in their services. (We have all seen media 'evolve' over the years.) Given time (and survival as a medium) podcasts and other digital media outlets will learn a few tricks of the trade of their own. But, that takes time to 'shake' itself out of the model.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
The author is a far right conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer, if anyone was wondering.
Your opinion.
The correct opinion.
Oh come on Vic, this is a perfect example of falsely attributing good to Trump. This is the kind of crap we will see for years now and Trump supporters will blindly suck it up.
Our nation is so deep into propaganda now; it is sickening to watch.
That sounds like something out of 1984.
You mean the obscene way that about 95% of the media tilted for Harris?
The good news TiG is that people no longer trust the msm.
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Opinions do vary
The electorate just elected a scoundrel to the presidency rather than a positive, youthful, team who would work for the people instead of for himself and you (bizarrely) think that this was a result of the media giving unfair positive bias to Harris rather than to Trump.
The media should have been fact checking and countering the endless lies of Trump. Instead, the propaganda of Trump resulted in the majority actually believing what he said.
The idea that the media was trying to prevent Trump from winning is a huge fraud on the public. The mainstream media doesnt care who the president is. The day after the election the owner of the Washington Post publicly congratulated Trump on his "great victory".
Oh it's true. After all, any self-respecting media when told in so many ways to "eff off" by a candidate for president (of all personages) . . . .should have not given him EARNED MEDIA (free media). But, it did for the decency of it all. The MSM showed up and broadcasted the "performances" live in many cases.
Yes it is, the country got tired of all the lies, bulllshitery, dishonesty, and unpatriotic actions and attitudes of the far left that has pretty much been running the Biden/Harris administration.
This is why this country will ultimately fail; it will fall under its own weight. As a nation, we're going 'down.' Because we don't know when to STOP.
The mainstream media failed miserably. There was only one important decision in this election: would America continue as a democracy, or become a dictatorship. The media almost never made the case.
yep
How? The mainstream media has been a Trump show since 2016. The public knows much, much, much more about Trump than any other Washington politician.
An unelected bureaucracy imposing regulations onto people, whether they like or not, is not a feature of democracy. A technocratic autocracy is still unaccountable to voters. In fact, some parts of the technocratic autocracy is unaccountable to elected government. That's not how democracy works.
It just never ceases to amaze me how some have the audacity to speak of "lies, bulllshitery, dishonesty, and unpatriotic actions and attitudes" of others while giving Trump, the poster child for same, a total pass. The blindness is staggering.
That’s the job of candidates, not the media.
Not when Fox is there in full force unabashedly lying and spinning for Trump. There needs to be a balance and the rest of the media did not provide it. They treated Trump like a normal candidate instead of the outrageous and dangerous buffoon that he is.
That is why I often say that, despite appearances or allowances for truth and other 'devices' and techniques used by media to get a/its points across: The media is not a friend of anyone. Such people live to hear/talk/report in or out of 'season.'
Fox famously went to court to be declared "entertainment" rather than "news"... so there's that.
Once upon a time, some news organizations tried to inform the public about what was going on. But even in the best of times there was "Give me the stories and I'll give you the war!"
Since forever, most media is mainly about making money. Some media believe that good reporting is profitable. It's up to consumers to choose well.
Fox.
You forgot:
MSNBC
CNN
This is the most ludicrous of all possible takes. Even if Fox was everything you claim it to be, it has a couple million viewers, tops. Its impact is dwarfed by the rest of the media, popular culture, education, and advertising, all of which are dominated by the Democratic Party.
At this point, it seems progressives won't be happy until the media literally takes the ballot from voters and votes for the Democrat.
I see a fair amount of Fox News content and I dont even have the station in my streaming packages. It is all over social media and You Tube. The amount of live viewers is the smallest part of their influence.
Fox is the dominant media outlet in MSM and is highly trusted by Republicans (major failure). That is why I mentioned them as the prime example. Hello?
I'm sure. It's a staple of left wing media to obsess over Fox News.
The amount of live viewers is the smallest part of their influence.
And that goes for all other progressive media too, from Morning Joe to Jimmy Kimmel.
Do you not realize how absurd it is to complain about the influence of Fox News stacked up against pretty much every other form of news and entertainment that is available to voters and favors Democrats?
Compare FOX's numbers to the rest of the MSM combined .
Hello?
Your major mistake is thinking that the "MSM" is anti-Trump. It is not.
Of course. Media depends on ownership (and management). Truth over/against the 'bottom line" is always controversial in broadcast businesses.
There is a distinction first off that FOX is not trading in newsworthiness. It is at 1.1.21 'entertainment' (and thus not to be trusted for news). The other news organizations have ethics and standards of journalism to abide by which causes them to be accountable for what they pen and broadcast. Mark the distinction.
Fox is the biggest by far (my point). Pay attention Sean, this faux obtuseness crap is well past old.
What did she post that was wrong?
Whoooosh goes the truth...
Gas is $3.59.
Trump is President elect....
What does the one thing have to do with the other?
Only your "truth".
Where does the tweet say anything about gas prices?
Hint: It doesn't
But at least you accept Trump will be your president.
Maybe a few other leftists here will do the same and come out of the anger stage of grief.
Gas is under 3.00 in my neck of the woods.
Without obscene subsidies, gas would be $10 - $15 per gallon.
For the record, this "leftist" has done a RESET on President-elect Trump. I have ARCHIVED his past dealings through the November 5 election date. It is not erased however. Full Stop. He has a new slate as of right now on my 'book.' Let's see how he uses it.
Not in the US.
Do your homework.
I’m not the one who needs to.
So you're happy to remain ignorant.
I have no problem with that, so I'm not going to do your spadework. Be happy.
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Agreed, ignorance is bliss. Problem is I’m not the blissful one here.
The US pays about $28 per capita in fossil fuel subsidies. Roughly 60th in the world. Below such fine government systems as Australia, Sweden, France, Germany, Canada and Spain.
10-15 bucks a gallon? Bullshit.
Enjoy!
Verify your source.
My source is fine. The source you’ve provided for the numbers you’re trying to pass of as real is questionable at best but feel free to back it up with a more believable source.
It's been below 3 bucks since about August. trmp didn't do that
Oh, I know. Someone seems to think otherwise....
Not where I’m from. It just barely dropped below 3 bucks a week or two before the election. Standard election year practice.
Now this was right in the heart of Biden’s tour:
Opinions vary
Facts, do not.
giggle
Which statement is a lie?
Putin is ready to end the war, as long as he gets what he wants
I'm sure he wants the Ukraine back, but he faces the specter of Trump giving the Ukraine the weapons it really wants.
It might be time to sit down to talks.
The right wing meme that constitutes this seed says "Putin ready to end Ukraine war", as if that is some achievement by Trump.
Putin has always been willing to end the war as long as he gets what he wants. With Trump in power he might get his wish.
Yes, because the Biden administrations diplomatic efforts on the topic the last two years have been just outstanding.
Right?
The article is not about Biden.
Biden is germane to the article as noted. Any comment on his diplomatic efforts as noted or is avoidance the word of the day again.
The line in the article clearly implies that the election of Trump has caused Putin to want peace. Russia itself says nothing has changed.
The article is about lying from the far right, not Biden.
So avoidance. Roger that …..
Which is Ukraine and Zelensky's head on a silver platter
Well look at who posted the meme! Jr didn't have to fall far down the tree after all
Hmm. Trump talks to Putin and tells him not to escalate.
So weird he would do that, since he's a Russian agent, right?
The seeded meme is more right wing disinformation. Donald Trump Jr, who is promoting this disinformation is one of the key people organizing the new administration.
The Washington Post reports that Trump told Putin not to escalate.
Is the Post now part of the vast right wing conspiracy?
What are you talking about?
Russia says nothing has changed since Trump won
Odd you reflexively believe the Russian government over your own partisan media.
I dont believe anything, I'm showing what Russia says.
Because it is magic man Trump we are just supposed to disregard what the country that is at war says ?
So you believe Putin now?
According to leftists here, that makes you a Putin patsy.
Are you going to put up with that?
It only took three years for Democrats to figure that out? You know, if Biden had talked to Putin three years ago then maybe the war could have been avoided.
Fuckin' HILARIOUS!!!
I know, knee slapping funny right? Yeehaw!
Zelensky phones Trump !
Isnt that special? /s
He would have called Harris too if she had won.
Four more years of this. For the record, I will be screening my cable news shows, because I don't need "this" in my life.
When they come knocking...
Don't follow what that means. . . .
Screening won't be enough when they come knocking
You are being cryptic. . . not plain. Say what you mean already.
Fascists will mistreat minorities. It's in their DNA.
That caused me to burst into laughter (to keep from crying). However, 'visitations' shall not be tolerated.
Gonna need Bobby and Huey.
On the otherhand, all minorities (including liberals according to this election) are due for closer 'inspection' now. That said, I move back into the proper stream of disussion.
What? The truth?
Everybody ought to want truth in their life. So, that is not it. I will leave it to ponder.
Smart move. I did it several years ago other than channel surfing (no more than 5 minutes) and sometimes Gutfeld depending on who he has on. I stopped watching the 5 a while back because I think Jesse and the judge are morons but I sometimes like to hear what Dana, Greg, Jessica and Harold Ford Jr have to say.
Do you ever leave Fox?
Did you read the comment you responded to?
Yes. I'm not on a first-name basis with any talking heads.
Too bad. Maddow would love you
You don't use her first name?
It's all 'fantastic' bull at times, yes. But its the 'only' game in towns across the country. Though, I heard a pundit state that new forms of media are pervasive nowadays and into the future. BTW, I am 'open' more than ever to a new THIRD PARTY politically. The present parties (and takeover groups) have gotten too big for their "britches' and need to be refreshed/reset in the 'worse' ways.
It will be interesting to see how podcasts change the media landscape. It seems you get a better reading of a person in a podcast without the person just going for soundbites as they do on cable news.
... on condition that the podcaster knows what they're talking about.
That potentially is because podcasts have the 'luxury' of being relaxed and less corporatized, and novel. Remember the media is well-practiced and reasonably old at what they do. . .so they have ironed out most of the kinks in their business models and unfortunately have learned how to manipulate nearly all the good and bad 'tricks of the trade' in their services. (We have all seen media 'evolve' over the years.) Given time (and survival as a medium) podcasts and other digital media outlets will learn a few tricks of the trade of their own. But, that takes time to 'shake' itself out of the model.