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The Chinese Water Torture Isn't Working

  
By:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  Politics  •  one week ago  •  53 comments

The Chinese Water Torture Isn't Working

Chinese Water Torture involved a process in which water is slowly dripped onto a person's forehead, allegedly making the restrained victim insane. The media used this method in the 2016 Presidential campaign by constantly publishing “news” stories focused on Mr. Trump and his run for office.

Good morning everyone and welcome to the liberal media version of the Chinese Water Torture method of breaking people. You may wonder why I call it that. It’s fairly simple. So simple even a liberal should be able to understand. In case you need a refresher, Chinese 
Water Torture involved a process in which water is slowly dripped onto a person's forehead, allegedly making the restrained victim insane. The media used this method in the 2016 Presidential campaign by constantly publishing “news” stories focused on Mr. Trump and his run for office. They thought if they applied a constant drip, drip, drip of veiled (and at times not so veiled) negative “attention” to Mr. Trump, that it would drive people away from him as the “torture” of hearing the constant negativity would tire them and they would give up the propensity to vote for him. Seems it didn’t work…………or at least well enough. So since the election, they have continued the practice and, as evidenced here in NT land, produce nothing but more negative drips HOPING to dissuade any inkling for not only Democrats but Republicans to support his presidency. Ginning up opposition to him while in office and magnifying any and all negatives, no matter how small or insignificant in the daily scheme of things, is the method they have employed. As far as driving people insane, if you look at the commentary of our liberal friends  here, they seem to be well on their way. All negative, all the time and with some of the comments, you will notice some progress to that end of insane to the point of Mr. Trump controlling their psyche to borderline insanity simply because he exists. One of the major points they like to push is the lying. Seems those sparks strike fear of actually NOTHING in the way of affecting their everyday lives. Well nothing they can pinpoint and a LOT of generalization. Some LIVE to post here. Post negativity here. It’s an obsession driving them to the brink over something, as in the water torture, something they cannot control. And it drives them to crazytown. The media continues to use this method to drive the citizenry into extreme division and they will continue to use it hoping in their heart of hearts that it will drive even his “base” away from him due to the constant drama created by the negative press. It worked for the liberal democrats who despise him and they are hoping it will do the same and make even his ardent supporters shy away and go another direction just to not have to hear or read any more. Here’s hoping that it doesn’t work and backfires on them once again.
Oh, and thanks for reading………………drip, drip, drip. Think about it libs. You are being controlled and you are too dumb to realize it.

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It Is ME
1  It Is ME    one week ago

As long as the "Liberal types" stand up and cheer, even if it will cost the country, and THEM , 52 Trillion bucks, they'll be safe. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif  

And these "Asses" that think "taking" from those they don't like, won't effect them either. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

Calling those type folks a "Stupid Ass", is a toned down "Gift" ! 

 
 
 
WallyW
1.1  WallyW  replied to  It Is ME @1    one week ago

I  agree. Lots of leftie drips hereabouts

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  WallyW @1.1    one week ago

It's more a "Broken Faucet" !

They're out to destroy EVERYTHING !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    one week ago

I give you credit for writing your own content.  Not many people do that. 

Your "argument" however, is preposterous. 

Your argument in a nutshell is that people are negative about Donald Trump , and that is a bummer. 

The media continues to use this method to drive the citizenry into extreme division and they will continue to use it hoping in their heart of hearts that it will drive even his “base” away from him due to the constant drama created by the negative press. It worked for the liberal democrats who despise him and they are hoping it will do the same and make even his ardent supporters shy away and go another direction just to not have to hear or read any more. Here’s hoping that it doesn’t work and backfires on them once again.

Here is a list of things that were known about Trump BEFORE he became president.  In other words BEFORE you walked into a voting booth in Nov of 2016 and voted for him.

Before election day 2016 

Trump was a known pathological liar.

Trump was known to have defrauded hundreds of "regular people" out of their money, in some cases their life savings, with his bogus "Trump University".

He was known to have lent his name to multi-level marketing schemes, otherwise known as pyramid schemes. 

He was known to have paid himself lavish bonuses at the same time he was planning the bankruptcy of his casino business, in which his investors lost a large portion of their money.

He was known to have tried to pay sub minimum wage to a group of immigrant workers he hired to demolish a building he was renovating. 

Trump was known to have been sued hundreds of times for non payment by small business and contractors who had acted as vendors for his various casino and hotel projects.

Trump was known to have propagated the racist birther conspiracy theory against the first non white president of the United States. 

Trump was known to have been accused of sexual assault by numerous women, and to have essentially bragged about it into an open mic from a tv show. 

He was known to have asked America's main foreign adversary, Russia, to interfere with the US election by hacking into Hillary Clinton's private emails. "If you are listening Russia..."  (Later that day Russians attempted to hack into Hillary's computers. )

I could go on and on.

You voted for Trump knowing that all these things were true. 

Why should anyone pay any attention to anything you say?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago
Here is a list of things that were known about Trump BEFORE he became president

I will admit, I couldn't stand the man long before it was ever suggested he run for President. I have disliked him since I first saw him in the early 1990's on "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". He came off as a pompous moron who was born with 10 silver spoons up his ass. Nothing I've seen of him since has ever changed my opinion of him other than perhaps making it worse. I now know Donald Trump is also a sexual predator and likely pedophile rapist who cheated on all three of his wives, wants to sleep with his own daughter, cheated on his taxes, lied and cheated in his businesses, and that was all before he gave the wink and nod to Putin during the 2016 campaign where he publicly told one of Putin's spies that he would drop sanctions if he were elected and then publicly asked for Russia for help in the election which he received and then tried his hardest to reward Putin without looking like a complete puppet, delaying bi-partisan sanctions for months while Russian oligarchs on the list moved their money, stopped readiness drills in South Korea, gave Russia a warning before bombing an airfield in Syria that had launched chemical weapons attacks on civilians, suggested against all evidence to the contrary that Russia wasn't behind the hacking, withheld military aide to Ukraine who was desperately trying to defend itself against Russia and withdrew American soldiers from Syria abandoning our Kurdish allies who spilled blood on our behalf fighting ISIS, all to appease the piece of trash Putin and his mobster oligarchs.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.2  author  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago

Sorry John but NONE of those affected my life personally. And a lot of it, especially the Russians hacking the emails, is embellished to the point of stupidity. In a nutshell............

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JohnRussell
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2    one week ago

It's a free country. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
3  Nerm_L    one week ago

What is truly remarkable is the note of desperation overlaid onto to the narrative of resistance.  Donald Trump has held his first elected office for 2 years, 9 months, and 2 weeks.  Trump must be far more consequential than the resistance dares to admit.  How can an inexperienced political buffoon threaten the status quo in such a short amount of time? 

The political ideology of the institutional status quo must be extremely fragile if it cannot withstand the egocentric bumbling of an empty suit with a Twitter account.

The President of the United States is more than just a personality.  A President whose popularity is based upon personality really is an empty suit.  The Office of President is also a source of policy.  And the policy being established by the current President does not conform to the status quo.  That new policy is consequential because it is displacing the status quo.

Democrats have been running personally likable empty suits for office.  But Trump is challenging the political ideology of the status quo.  An empty suit won't be able to defend the status quo, either.  A Twitter account undermining 50 years of Democratic and Republican political posturing, pandering, and propaganda in less than three years is astounding.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one week ago

You are imagining things. I will agree that Trump is disrupting. He is disrupting behavioral norms of our society, which can be very damaging. 

His policies are largely based on his personal opinion, usually uninformed, and almost all of them are subject to reversal when there is a new president. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.1  author  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one week ago
and almost all of them are subject to reversal when there is a new president

And, as he has proven, were those of his predecessor.........and that to me is glorious.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
3.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one week ago
You are imagining things. I will agree that Trump is disrupting. He is disrupting behavioral norms of our society, which can be very damaging. 

That is based upon the elite's misconception that politicians, experts, and the 'right' people can exert some sort of mind control over the public.  The public may be prone to subliminal influence, as demonstrated by social media companies, but the public isn't so easily influenced by overt BS.

His policies are largely based on his personal opinion, usually uninformed, and almost all of them are subject to reversal when there is a new president. 

Which only suggests that Trump is independent and not easily controlled by convention wisdom, technocratic authority, or the status quo.  In spite of the left's political propaganda, an individual who is too independent becomes a threat. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.2    one week ago
The public may be prone to subliminal influence, as demonstrated by social media companies, but the public isn't so easily influenced by overt BS.

Are you fucking kidding me? Trump's draw for many is his 'overt BS'. There is a faction that voted for Trump that just wanted to burn the place down and don't give a shit what's left over as long as they control it.

The banksters, the polluters, big pharma ect, ect, ect, all wanted deregulation and they got it. Damn the home owners, damn the environment, damn the native trying to save the land, damn the patients, to hell with them all.  

What you call the 'status quo', many of the rest of us call norms and the rule of law.  

They cheered when Trump spewed his 'I'll be too busy to golf', 'I'm under audit', 'I know better than the Generals', 'Total exoneration!' bullshit. Swilling the pabulum became second nature and it's only gotten worse. 

Which only suggests that Trump is independent and not easily controlled by convention wisdom, technocratic authority, or the status quo.  In spite of the left's political propaganda, an individual who is too independent becomes a threat.

That's hilarious. Trump has NO compass. His 'opinions' and 'policies' swing with a word from Fox and Friends or Hannity, just look at his tweets.

Trump changes his position, not from day to day but from hour to hour. He's lead by the nose by the most intellectually bankrupt RWers on the planet and capitulated to by the cowardly GOP. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
3.1.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Dulay @3.1.3    6 days ago
Are you fucking kidding me? Trump's draw for many is his 'overt BS'. There is a faction that voted for Trump that just wanted to burn the place down and don't give a shit what's left over as long as they control it.

That aptly explains why Trump was elected but misses the mark for the purpose of electing Trump.  The stated objectives of any revolutionary manifesto is to 'burn the place down' to reshape government (and, usually, reshape society).  That's why Trump is more liberal than liberals want to acknowledge.

Welcome to the revolution.  

The banksters, the polluters, big pharma ect, ect, ect, all wanted deregulation and they got it. Damn the home owners, damn the environment, damn the native trying to save the land, damn the patients, to hell with them all.  

Big business owns the Republican and Democratic Parties.  Multinational business owns the status quo.  The regulations haven't prevented abuses; the regulations have only legitimized those abuses by moving them off shore.  There hasn't been a paucity of product warnings and product recalls under the status quo.

Politicians distract from the failings of the regulatory status quo by claiming things would be much worse without regulations.  Trump is putting that political bromide to the test.  Let's find out how long a business can remain viable by killing off its customers.

What you call the 'status quo', many of the rest of us call norms and the rule of law.  

Activists challenge the norms and the rule of law.  That's the stated goal for pursuing change that 'lifts up' minorities.  Democrats have engaged in political activism that upsets the norms and rule of law.  But Democrats have attempted to use government to politically coerce the country into favoring small special interests for the party's political benefit.  The political cynicism of the Democratic Party has become part of the status quo.  

Trump is leading a different revolution to 'burn the place down' and limit the ability of the government to coerce the public.  Welcome to the revolution.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.4    6 days ago
That aptly explains why Trump was elected but misses the mark for the purpose of electing Trump. 

How does why Trump was elected differ from the purpose he was elected? 

Big business owns the Republican and Democratic Parties.  Multinational business owns the status quo.

We're not talking about parties, we're talking about Trump's UNILATERAL revocation of regulations. 

 The regulations haven't prevented abuses; the regulations have only legitimized those abuses by moving them off shore.  

The US can only regulate our own nation and the regulations I spoke of were and are  to the benefit of the nation as a whole. 

As for legitimizing abused by moving them offshore, Trump has rolled back those restrictions too. 

There hasn't been a paucity of product warnings and product recalls under the status quo.

Point? 

Politicians distract from the failings of the regulatory status quo by claiming things would be much worse without regulations.  Trump is putting that political bromide to the test.  Let's find out how long a business can remain viable by killing off its customers.

Ya, that's the ticket. /s

Oh and let's not forget the wildlife and water pollution and oil spills and asthma causing air pollution, and, and, and. 

Activists challenge the norms and the rule of law.  

If you're characterizing Trump as an activist, that's laughable. 

Activist also fight for the norms of society to be followed, for the rule of law to be applied equally, 

That's the stated goal for pursuing change that 'lifts up' minorities.

There are only 2 minorities that Trump is interested in lifting up, his family and the 1%. 

Democrats have engaged in political activism that upsets the norms and rule of law.  But Democrats have attempted to use government to politically coerce the country into favoring small special interests for the party's political benefit.  The political cynicism of the Democratic Party has become part of the status quo.  
Trump is leading a different revolution to 'burn the place down' and limit the ability of the government to coerce the public.  Welcome to the revolution.

Gaslighting bullshit. 

Why don't you ask the students that have been screwed by DeVos whether they've been coerced by the government? Ask the public in California about Trump offering fire assistance to Putin but denying it to Gov. Newsom. Ask NGOs if they feel coerced by having their employees held at the border by CBP or cities having hundreds of asylum seekers dumped on the their streets without notice or cities/counties being forced to absorb the cost of federal immigration detentions. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
3.1.6  Nerm_L  replied to  Dulay @3.1.5    5 days ago
How does why Trump was elected differ from the purpose he was elected? 

You said it yourself.  Trump was elected to 'burn the place down'.  Trump was not elected to control anything or give control to anyone.  Trump was elected to throw sabots into the political machinery; to sabotage the controls.  Trump was elected to create chaos in government and chaos is not a means of control.

A large portion of the public are rejecting the left's activism using government to coerce and control the public.  A large portion of the public are rejecting political correctness, racial politics, minority activism, and guilt-trip politics.  That's why Trump was elected.  But the purpose of electing Trump was not to obtain control over government; the purpose was to break government so the small number of the left's activists cannot coerce everyone else.

The motivation for electing Trump was the same as for the American Revolution.  Too much of the public feel they are being governed without representation.  And the remedy today is the same as it was in 1776; removal of a dictatorial (tyrannical?) government that represents itself instead of representing the people.  

Welcome to the revolution.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.6    5 days ago
A large portion of the public are rejecting the left's activism using government to coerce and control the public.  A large portion of the public are rejecting political correctness, racial politics, minority activism, and guilt-trip politics.  That's why Trump was elected.  

Wow, that's quite a delusional comment. 

You're pretty desperate to refuse to acknowledge: 

That Trump generates the biggest demand for 'political correctness' by pretending that any opposition to his polices or actions are treacherous attacks on the country. 

That Trump started and continues to benefit from 'racial politics'.

That the 1% and corporation polluters are minority activists benefiting from Trump's policies. 

That Trump is the KING of 'guilt-trip politics' most ironically putting a guilt-trip on any and every Cabinet member that's left his Administration, blaming them for his incompetence. Hell, he even blames GOP leaders who weren't in his Administration, Ryan, McCann, Cristy, Corker and Flake. 

All of which proves that all of the reasons you cited for electing Trump were smoke and mirrors.

But the purpose of electing Trump was not to obtain control over government; the purpose was to break government so the small number of the left's activists cannot coerce everyone else.

 Breaking government IS a way of obtaining control over it. Sheesh. 

BTFW, all Trump is doing, with your blessing, is trading what you call a small number of the left's activists for a small number of the right's activists. Well done. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4  Tessylo    one week ago

And that to me is deplorable

 
 
 
Sunshine
5  Sunshine    one week ago

If Democrats had at least a mediocre candidate, the daily Trump bashing wouldn't be needed. 

Folks like to spend their time Trump bashing because the other party is a weak mess. To the liberal media and their followers, I guess none of them is worth discussing.  The rabid Trump hype is their preferred narrative or risk supporting the idiotic policies of the Dems. 

 
 
 
katrix
5.1  katrix  replied to  Sunshine @5    one week ago
If Democrats had at least a mediocre candidate, the daily Trump bashing wouldn't be needed. 

Oh, the daily Trump bashing would still be needed, because Trump would still be the same despicable crook he's been his entire life and would still constantly do things that would disgust any moral, ethical, sane person.

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  katrix @5.1    one week ago

Then it should be easy to defeat him in a fair and open election. That is if the Democrats have learned they can't ignore, or worse abuse, fly over country.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @5    6 days ago

The majority of the Democratic candidates are centrists or center left. Only Sanders and to a lesser extent Warren are ultra liberal. 

The idea that all the candidates are "far out there" is Trumpist propaganda. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.2.1  Sunshine  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    6 days ago
Only Sanders and to a lesser extent Warren are ultra liberal. 

Good grief John....them and Biden are the front runners.  And Biden is not centrist left anymore.

 
 
 
Tacos!
6  Tacos!    one week ago

Everyone I know has a big butt. So, too, does this comment. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

I defend Trump a lot and it brings me no particular pleasure. I don't like him. I never have. I can't relate to his absurd life. I think he's a snake oil salesman. He slaps his name on stuff and sells the idea that the thing in question is now worth buying when before, it wasn't. That's insane, but incredibly, it seems to work for him. 

In debates, and press conferences, and on Twitter, he has the manners of a 6th grader - and not one who was raised to respect other people. Sometimes, when I can channel my inner middle schooler, it's funny. Mostly it's just cringy.

Assessing his efficiency as a political leader, I think he's bad at his job. He has failed utterly in bringing the two parties together in common cause. Not all of that is his fault of course, but he is the president, and it's his job to overcome intransigency and hyper-partisanship.

He seems to have no concern or clue for how government works and his knowledge of the law is abysmal. For many, that is a bonus - a feature , not a flaw - of Trump. This is mainly because he has never been an elected official or had to answer to anyone else. In legal matters, teams of lawyers protect him so he has not suffered consequences. The very concepts of checks and balances or constitutional limitations have never applied to him.

He was elected because he made it clear he wanted to accomplish several things that people care about, but it's pretty clear he didn't have a plan for actually doing any of them (of course he's not the only president we could say that about). As a lifelong CEO, he is used to delegating these things to other people. Unfortunately, in Washington, that means it won't get done.

BUTT . . . NONE of that means he's trying to hand the country over to the Russians, that he became president to get rich by stealing from Americans, or that there is justification on any constitutional grounds for forcibly removing him from office via impeachment. As you see above, I think there are tons of legitimate reasons for criticizing Trump, but none of them warrant the hysteria that we see.

Furthermore, his political opponents and the media frequently exaggerate or outright lie about the things he has said and done, diluting the effect of legitimate criticism and destroying their own credibility.

That hysteria and dissembling is what I respond to when I defend Trump. I would much prefer to get rid of him the old fashioned way: election. I'm disappointed no Republicans are running against him and no moderate Democrats can make any traction in the polls.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @6    one week ago
That hysteria and dissembling is what I respond to when I defend Trump.

There is no such thing as "hysteria" which is intended to hasten the removal of someone who is manifestly unfit to hold high office. Even worse, there has not been a single day, or minute, of his term so far when he has been fit for office. 

Republicans should be organizing with all their might to make sure that he is not on their ticket next November. Instead they endlessly complain that Trump is not "treated fairly".  It is all completely absurd. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    one week ago
There is no such thing as "hysteria" which is intended to hasten the removal of someone who is manifestly unfit to hold high office. Even worse, there has not been a single day, or minute, of his term so far when he has been fit for office.

Not even Democratic leadership thinks that is true or they would have pursued it long ago. Hastening the removal of someone from office when you can't even establish the grounds for it is the very definition of hysteria (btw, you not liking him is not grounds).

In a representative government such as ours, where we respect the rule of law, the non-hysterical person either establishes clear grounds for removal or waits until the next election.

Republicans should be organizing with all their might to make sure that he is not on their ticket next November.

It should be clear by now that they are too afraid of intraparty division to go that route. They had the chance in 2016 to deprive Trump of the nomination (which is what Democrats did to Bernie Sanders) and they didn't take it. They still operate under Reagan's 11th Commandment. It works for them, I suppose.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    one week ago

just because the GOP keeps moving and changing the goal posts and goal lines,

doesn't in any way mean trump has not reached, and or crossed, these lines,

cause he has, and continues to go way further tjan impeachable offenses thought fine for a

Democrat.

Hypocritical buffoons !

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1.2    6 days ago

Funny, the Democrats had no lines when it came to Bill Clinton being impeached. Perjury? "He lied about sex". Obstruction? "Obstruction is not grounds for impeachment". It was all "One vast right wing conspiracy".

But for Trump there is a new line every second that he has crossed. Winning an election is not an impeachable offense. No matter how the left want to spin it.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6    one week ago
BUTT . . . NONE of that means he's trying to hand the country over to the Russians,

No, just most of Europe. 

that he became president to get rich by stealing from Americans,

He's not stealing, he's just spending. He is however profiting from foreigners hand over fist. 

or that there is justification on any constitutional grounds for forcibly removing him from office via impeachment.

I can see why you'd think so because that takes a desire to review the evidence. 

As you see above, I think there are tons of legitimate reasons for criticizing Trump, but none of them warrant the hysteria that we see.

Facts aren't hysteria. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2    one week ago
Facts aren't hysteria

That’s why your comment is a great example of what I have been talking about.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    6 days ago

My statement that facts aren't hysteria is a great example of what you've been talking about? Really? How so? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.2    6 days ago

Your pattern is consistent; I'll give ya that. 

To review, I said,

That’s why your comment is a great example

But then your response changes that,

My statement that facts aren't hysteria is a great example

See, I didn't say just that statement. I said "comment" and I was referring to the whole post. You know - or should know - I'm right about the overall comment.

You know - or should know - that saying Trump is trying to hand the country over to most of Europe is hysteria, not factual.

You know - or should know - that claiming without evidence that Trump is profiteering from foreigners is hysteria, not factual.

You know - or should know - that claiming I am not interested in reviewing evidence is hysteria, and not factual.

So you know - or should know - what I meant when I said your comment was an example of hysteria over facts. But you won't engage with people honestly. Instead you want to play this ridiculous game. You do it all the time with me where you ignore the things that were said so you can cherry pick some small snippet out of context and deflect from the conversation. What a waste!

Engage with the content of my comment or go away, but please don't try to troll me anymore. It's so tiresome.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.4  author  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.3    6 days ago

Perhaps these will help some of our friends here. God knows they need it.

"Fear can be a strong motivator."

"Worry" is the most wasted emotion entrenched in humankind."

"Worry comes from self pity. When self is forgotten, there is no worry. Worry comes also from fear and fear comes from the clouds of ignorance. Light breaks the clouds."

--Author unknown--

And all of the above lead to the hysteria of which you speak. Great post my friend.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.3    6 days ago
But then your response changes that,

I cited the comment that you block quoted. I didn't 'change' a fucking thing. 

You know - or should know - that saying Trump is trying to hand the country over to most of Europe is hysteria, not factual.

You know, or should know, that isn't what I meant. I meant that Trump is trying to hand over most of Europe to the Russians. READ MORE CAREFULLY. 

You know - or should know - that claiming without evidence that Trump is profiteering from foreigners is hysteria, not factual.

Volker's transcript shows that the Ukrainians stayed at Trump's DC Hotel and Giuliani uses it for his meetings. 

Here's an article about foreign government spending @ Trump properties that you claim is 'hysteria'. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/trump-hotel-empty-rooms-016763

There are a plethora of like articles and there are also court filings that document what you are desperate to insist is 'hysteria'. 

You know - or should know - that claiming I am not interested in reviewing evidence is hysteria, and not factual.

No Tacos!, that's call an OPINION, not hysteria.

So you know - or should know - what I meant when I said your comment was an example of hysteria over facts. But you won't engage with people honestly. Instead you want to play this ridiculous game. You do it all the time with me where you ignore the things that were said so you can cherry pick some small snippet out of context and deflect from the conversation. What a waste! Engage with the content of my comment or go away, but please don't try to troll me anymore. It's so tiresome.

Gee Tacos!, your devolution to your MO of making personal comments toward me didn't take very long. You critique about honesty is hysteria, not factual. Well done. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.6  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.4    6 days ago
Author unknown

Actually, Hazrat Inayat Khan is pretty well known. It's unfortunate that you truncated his saying. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.7  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.5    6 days ago

I made a simple request:

Engage with the content of my comment or go away, but please don't try to troll me anymore. It's so tiresome.

I even used the P-word. You couldn't be bothered. Big Surprise.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.8  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.7    5 days ago
I made a simple request:

Your 'simple request' is a personal attack. 

BTFW, note that I block quoted and addressed your ENTIRE comment, NOT just the one sentence you addressed. 

As for addressing the content of comments, heal thyself. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.9  author  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @6.2.6    5 days ago
It's unfortunate that you truncated his saying. 

Perhaps you can provide the rest of the saying. It's all I could find out of about a gazillion.

Thanks,

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.10  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.8    5 days ago
Your 'simple request' is a personal attack.

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Dulay
6.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.9    5 days ago

From Hazrat Inayat Khan's 'The Complete Sayings" :

Self-pity

Self-pity is the worst poverty; it overwhelms man until he sees nothing but illness, trouble, and pain.

Self-pity is the worst poverty. When a person says, "I am to be pitied," before he says anything more he has diminished himself by half; and what is said further diminishes him totally.

Worry comes from self-pity. When the self is forgotten, there is no worry. Worry comes also from fear, and fear comes from the clouds of ignorance. Light breaks the clouds.

Self-pity is the worst poverty; it overwhelms man until he sees nothing but illness, trouble, and pain.

Context matters. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.12  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.10    5 days ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.13  author  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @6.2.11    5 days ago

I saw all four of those. The subject was worry. Not the overall subject of pity. Get it now?

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.14  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.13    5 days ago

Yes, I get that you had to truncate Hazrat Inayat Khan's "Self-Pity" saying in order to get it to fit into your posit. Oh and then you had to pretend that it was from an unknown author. Bad Form.

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.15  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.14    5 days ago
Bad Form

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Dulay
6.2.16  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.15    5 days ago

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.17  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @6.2.16    5 days ago

Oh God. We all know what it means. Geez.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.18  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.17    5 days ago

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MrFrost
7  MrFrost    one week ago
by constantly publishing “news” stories focused on Mr. Trump and his run for office.

I think the writer is confused. It was wikileaks that was posting shit about Clinton just about daily right up to election day. Weird that those dumps literally stopped on election day. 

 
 
 
JBB
8  JBB    one week ago

TRANSLATION - The drip drip drip of damned evidence against Trump really is getting to the gop...

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JBB @8    one week ago

Chinese Water Torture is like Maxwell House Coffee,

Good to the last Drop !

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9  Buzz of the Orient    one week ago

The Chinese are being criticized enough these days, but the "Chinese Water Torture" is NOT Chinese:

The Chinese had some bizarre torture practices, but to credit them with water torture would be unfair. “Chinese” water torture was used during  the Spanish  Inquisition, and was more common in Europe than Asia.

But, of course, there are many ways to torture victims with water other than just dripping it onto their forehead.

Waterboarding is a practice which involves restraining a victim who is lying down. A cloth is placed over his face, and water is poured onto that cloth. This will give the victim the sensation of drowning. If water is poured constantly, it can actually suffocate and kill the victim.

Waterboarding, unfortunately, is still in practice today. The  CIA confirmed  using the torture method on Al-Qaeda suspects as recently as 2003.

Even just the forced ingestion of water can be used as torture. In the 17 th  and 18 th  centuries,  French  courts would force water down the throats of criminals into their stomachs. It also served as an effective method of execution.

https://ways-to-die.com/chinese-water-torture/

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
9.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9    one week ago

was it used on them ?

origin of name?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.1    one week ago

If you read what I linked, this is the beginning of that article:

Chinese water torture was never originally called Chinese water torture. In fact, it wasn’t until  Houdini , in 1910, escaped from the “Chinese Water Torture Cell” that the term was coined. And in fact, Houdini’s escape had very little to do with the Chinese torture practice.

In Houdini’s act, he was suspended upside down, immersed in water. He then escaped. But Chinese water torture doesn’t involve immersion in water. And the practice dates back well before the time of Houdini’s acts.

Chinese water torture is thought to  date back to the 15 th  or 16 th  century . A man named Hippolytus de Marsiliis (an Italian) observed that, after a period of time, dripping water would create a hollowed out space in a rock or in the earth. He’s said to have put that into practice, but instead of using a rock, he used the human body.

The article does not say the Chinese used that method of torture, but it gives examples of the horrible kinds of torture that they did use.

 
 
 
bbl-1
10  bbl-1    6 days ago

Chinese water torture pales in comparison to American water torture.  "I'm like a really smart guy," DJT.  The wonderment and brilliance of it all.