The Chinese Water Torture Isn't Working
Good morning everyone and welcome to the liberal media version of the Chinese Water Torture method of breaking people. You may wonder why I call it that. It’s fairly simple. So simple even a liberal should be able to understand. In case you need a refresher, Chinese
Water Torture involved a process in which water is slowly dripped onto a person's forehead, allegedly making the restrained victim insane. The media used this method in the 2016 Presidential campaign by constantly publishing “news” stories focused on Mr. Trump and his run for office. They thought if they applied a constant drip, drip, drip of veiled (and at times not so veiled) negative “attention” to Mr. Trump, that it would drive people away from him as the “torture” of hearing the constant negativity would tire them and they would give up the propensity to vote for him. Seems it didn’t work…………or at least well enough. So since the election, they have continued the practice and, as evidenced here in NT land, produce nothing but more negative drips HOPING to dissuade any inkling for not only Democrats but Republicans to support his presidency. Ginning up opposition to him while in office and magnifying any and all negatives, no matter how small or insignificant in the daily scheme of things, is the method they have employed. As far as driving people insane, if you look at the commentary of our liberal friends here, they seem to be well on their way. All negative, all the time and with some of the comments, you will notice some progress to that end of insane to the point of Mr. Trump controlling their psyche to borderline insanity simply because he exists. One of the major points they like to push is the lying. Seems those sparks strike fear of actually NOTHING in the way of affecting their everyday lives. Well nothing they can pinpoint and a LOT of generalization. Some LIVE to post here. Post negativity here. It’s an obsession driving them to the brink over something, as in the water torture, something they cannot control. And it drives them to crazytown. The media continues to use this method to drive the citizenry into extreme division and they will continue to use it hoping in their heart of hearts that it will drive even his “base” away from him due to the constant drama created by the negative press. It worked for the liberal democrats who despise him and they are hoping it will do the same and make even his ardent supporters shy away and go another direction just to not have to hear or read any more. Here’s hoping that it doesn’t work and backfires on them once again.
Oh, and thanks for reading………………drip, drip, drip. Think about it libs. You are being controlled and you are too dumb to realize it.
As long as the "Liberal types" stand up and cheer, even if it will cost the country, and THEM , 52 Trillion bucks, they'll be safe.
And these "Asses" that think "taking" from those they don't like, won't effect them either.
Calling those type folks a "Stupid Ass", is a toned down "Gift" !
I give you credit for writing your own content. Not many people do that.
Your "argument" however, is preposterous.
Your argument in a nutshell is that people are negative about Donald Trump , and that is a bummer.
Here is a list of things that were known about Trump BEFORE he became president. In other words BEFORE you walked into a voting booth in Nov of 2016 and voted for him.
Before election day 2016
Trump was a known pathological liar.
Trump was known to have defrauded hundreds of "regular people" out of their money, in some cases their life savings, with his bogus "Trump University".
He was known to have lent his name to multi-level marketing schemes, otherwise known as pyramid schemes.
He was known to have paid himself lavish bonuses at the same time he was planning the bankruptcy of his casino business, in which his investors lost a large portion of their money.
He was known to have tried to pay sub minimum wage to a group of immigrant workers he hired to demolish a building he was renovating.
Trump was known to have been sued hundreds of times for non payment by small business and contractors who had acted as vendors for his various casino and hotel projects.
Trump was known to have propagated the racist birther conspiracy theory against the first non white president of the United States.
Trump was known to have been accused of sexual assault by numerous women, and to have essentially bragged about it into an open mic from a tv show.
He was known to have asked America's main foreign adversary, Russia, to interfere with the US election by hacking into Hillary Clinton's private emails. "If you are listening Russia..." (Later that day Russians attempted to hack into Hillary's computers. )
I could go on and on.
You voted for Trump knowing that all these things were true.
Why should anyone pay any attention to anything you say?
I will admit, I couldn't stand the man long before it was ever suggested he run for President. I have disliked him since I first saw him in the early 1990's on "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". He came off as a pompous moron who was born with 10 silver spoons up his ass. Nothing I've seen of him since has ever changed my opinion of him other than perhaps making it worse. I now know Donald Trump is also a sexual predator and likely pedophile rapist who cheated on all three of his wives, wants to sleep with his own daughter, cheated on his taxes, lied and cheated in his businesses, and that was all before he gave the wink and nod to Putin during the 2016 campaign where he publicly told one of Putin's spies that he would drop sanctions if he were elected and then publicly asked for Russia for help in the election which he received and then tried his hardest to reward Putin without looking like a complete puppet, delaying bi-partisan sanctions for months while Russian oligarchs on the list moved their money, stopped readiness drills in South Korea, gave Russia a warning before bombing an airfield in Syria that had launched chemical weapons attacks on civilians, suggested against all evidence to the contrary that Russia wasn't behind the hacking, withheld military aide to Ukraine who was desperately trying to defend itself against Russia and withdrew American soldiers from Syria abandoning our Kurdish allies who spilled blood on our behalf fighting ISIS, all to appease the piece of trash Putin and his mobster oligarchs.
Sorry John but NONE of those affected my life personally. And a lot of it, especially the Russians hacking the emails, is embellished to the point of stupidity. In a nutshell............
It's a free country.
What is truly remarkable is the note of desperation overlaid onto to the narrative of resistance. Donald Trump has held his first elected office for 2 years, 9 months, and 2 weeks. Trump must be far more consequential than the resistance dares to admit. How can an inexperienced political buffoon threaten the status quo in such a short amount of time?
The political ideology of the institutional status quo must be extremely fragile if it cannot withstand the egocentric bumbling of an empty suit with a Twitter account.
The President of the United States is more than just a personality. A President whose popularity is based upon personality really is an empty suit. The Office of President is also a source of policy. And the policy being established by the current President does not conform to the status quo. That new policy is consequential because it is displacing the status quo.
Democrats have been running personally likable empty suits for office. But Trump is challenging the political ideology of the status quo. An empty suit won't be able to defend the status quo, either. A Twitter account undermining 50 years of Democratic and Republican political posturing, pandering, and propaganda in less than three years is astounding.
You are imagining things. I will agree that Trump is disrupting. He is disrupting behavioral norms of our society, which can be very damaging.
His policies are largely based on his personal opinion, usually uninformed, and almost all of them are subject to reversal when there is a new president.
And, as he has proven, were those of his predecessor.........and that to me is glorious.
That is based upon the elite's misconception that politicians, experts, and the 'right' people can exert some sort of mind control over the public. The public may be prone to subliminal influence, as demonstrated by social media companies, but the public isn't so easily influenced by overt BS.
Which only suggests that Trump is independent and not easily controlled by convention wisdom, technocratic authority, or the status quo. In spite of the left's political propaganda, an individual who is too independent becomes a threat.
Are you fucking kidding me? Trump's draw for many is his 'overt BS'. There is a faction that voted for Trump that just wanted to burn the place down and don't give a shit what's left over as long as they control it.
The banksters, the polluters, big pharma ect, ect, ect, all wanted deregulation and they got it. Damn the home owners, damn the environment, damn the native trying to save the land, damn the patients, to hell with them all.
What you call the 'status quo', many of the rest of us call norms and the rule of law.
They cheered when Trump spewed his 'I'll be too busy to golf', 'I'm under audit', 'I know better than the Generals', 'Total exoneration!' bullshit. Swilling the pabulum became second nature and it's only gotten worse.
That's hilarious. Trump has NO compass. His 'opinions' and 'policies' swing with a word from Fox and Friends or Hannity, just look at his tweets.
Trump changes his position, not from day to day but from hour to hour. He's lead by the nose by the most intellectually bankrupt RWers on the planet and capitulated to by the cowardly GOP.
That aptly explains why Trump was elected but misses the mark for the purpose of electing Trump. The stated objectives of any revolutionary manifesto is to 'burn the place down' to reshape government (and, usually, reshape society). That's why Trump is more liberal than liberals want to acknowledge.
Welcome to the revolution.
Big business owns the Republican and Democratic Parties. Multinational business owns the status quo. The regulations haven't prevented abuses; the regulations have only legitimized those abuses by moving them off shore. There hasn't been a paucity of product warnings and product recalls under the status quo.
Politicians distract from the failings of the regulatory status quo by claiming things would be much worse without regulations. Trump is putting that political bromide to the test. Let's find out how long a business can remain viable by killing off its customers.
Activists challenge the norms and the rule of law. That's the stated goal for pursuing change that 'lifts up' minorities. Democrats have engaged in political activism that upsets the norms and rule of law. But Democrats have attempted to use government to politically coerce the country into favoring small special interests for the party's political benefit. The political cynicism of the Democratic Party has become part of the status quo.
Trump is leading a different revolution to 'burn the place down' and limit the ability of the government to coerce the public. Welcome to the revolution.
How does why Trump was elected differ from the purpose he was elected?
We're not talking about parties, we're talking about Trump's UNILATERAL revocation of regulations.
The US can only regulate our own nation and the regulations I spoke of were and are to the benefit of the nation as a whole.
As for legitimizing abused by moving them offshore, Trump has rolled back those restrictions too.
Point?
Ya, that's the ticket. /s
Oh and let's not forget the wildlife and water pollution and oil spills and asthma causing air pollution, and, and, and.
If you're characterizing Trump as an activist, that's laughable.
Activist also fight for the norms of society to be followed, for the rule of law to be applied equally,
There are only 2 minorities that Trump is interested in lifting up, his family and the 1%.
Gaslighting bullshit.
Why don't you ask the students that have been screwed by DeVos whether they've been coerced by the government? Ask the public in California about Trump offering fire assistance to Putin but denying it to Gov. Newsom. Ask NGOs if they feel coerced by having their employees held at the border by CBP or cities having hundreds of asylum seekers dumped on the their streets without notice or cities/counties being forced to absorb the cost of federal immigration detentions.
You said it yourself. Trump was elected to 'burn the place down'. Trump was not elected to control anything or give control to anyone. Trump was elected to throw sabots into the political machinery; to sabotage the controls. Trump was elected to create chaos in government and chaos is not a means of control.
A large portion of the public are rejecting the left's activism using government to coerce and control the public. A large portion of the public are rejecting political correctness, racial politics, minority activism, and guilt-trip politics. That's why Trump was elected. But the purpose of electing Trump was not to obtain control over government; the purpose was to break government so the small number of the left's activists cannot coerce everyone else.
The motivation for electing Trump was the same as for the American Revolution. Too much of the public feel they are being governed without representation. And the remedy today is the same as it was in 1776; removal of a dictatorial (tyrannical?) government that represents itself instead of representing the people.
Welcome to the revolution.
Wow, that's quite a delusional comment.
You're pretty desperate to refuse to acknowledge:
That Trump generates the biggest demand for 'political correctness' by pretending that any opposition to his polices or actions are treacherous attacks on the country.
That Trump started and continues to benefit from 'racial politics'.
That the 1% and corporation polluters are minority activists benefiting from Trump's policies.
That Trump is the KING of 'guilt-trip politics' most ironically putting a guilt-trip on any and every Cabinet member that's left his Administration, blaming them for his incompetence. Hell, he even blames GOP leaders who weren't in his Administration, Ryan, McCann, Cristy, Corker and Flake.
All of which proves that all of the reasons you cited for electing Trump were smoke and mirrors.
Breaking government IS a way of obtaining control over it. Sheesh.
BTFW, all Trump is doing, with your blessing, is trading what you call a small number of the left's activists for a small number of the right's activists. Well done.
And that to me is deplorable
If Democrats had at least a mediocre candidate, the daily Trump bashing wouldn't be needed.
Folks like to spend their time Trump bashing because the other party is a weak mess. To the liberal media and their followers, I guess none of them is worth discussing. The rabid Trump hype is their preferred narrative or risk supporting the idiotic policies of the Dems.
Oh, the daily Trump bashing would still be needed, because Trump would still be the same despicable crook he's been his entire life and would still constantly do things that would disgust any moral, ethical, sane person.
Then it should be easy to defeat him in a fair and open election. That is if the Democrats have learned they can't ignore, or worse abuse, fly over country.
The majority of the Democratic candidates are centrists or center left. Only Sanders and to a lesser extent Warren are ultra liberal.
The idea that all the candidates are "far out there" is Trumpist propaganda.
Good grief John....them and Biden are the front runners. And Biden is not centrist left anymore.
Everyone I know has a big butt. So, too, does this comment.
I defend Trump a lot and it brings me no particular pleasure. I don't like him. I never have. I can't relate to his absurd life. I think he's a snake oil salesman. He slaps his name on stuff and sells the idea that the thing in question is now worth buying when before, it wasn't. That's insane, but incredibly, it seems to work for him.
In debates, and press conferences, and on Twitter, he has the manners of a 6th grader - and not one who was raised to respect other people. Sometimes, when I can channel my inner middle schooler, it's funny. Mostly it's just cringy.
Assessing his efficiency as a political leader, I think he's bad at his job. He has failed utterly in bringing the two parties together in common cause. Not all of that is his fault of course, but he is the president, and it's his job to overcome intransigency and hyper-partisanship.
He seems to have no concern or clue for how government works and his knowledge of the law is abysmal. For many, that is a bonus - a feature , not a flaw - of Trump. This is mainly because he has never been an elected official or had to answer to anyone else. In legal matters, teams of lawyers protect him so he has not suffered consequences. The very concepts of checks and balances or constitutional limitations have never applied to him.
He was elected because he made it clear he wanted to accomplish several things that people care about, but it's pretty clear he didn't have a plan for actually doing any of them (of course he's not the only president we could say that about). As a lifelong CEO, he is used to delegating these things to other people. Unfortunately, in Washington, that means it won't get done.
BUTT . . . NONE of that means he's trying to hand the country over to the Russians, that he became president to get rich by stealing from Americans, or that there is justification on any constitutional grounds for forcibly removing him from office via impeachment. As you see above, I think there are tons of legitimate reasons for criticizing Trump, but none of them warrant the hysteria that we see.
Furthermore, his political opponents and the media frequently exaggerate or outright lie about the things he has said and done, diluting the effect of legitimate criticism and destroying their own credibility.
That hysteria and dissembling is what I respond to when I defend Trump. I would much prefer to get rid of him the old fashioned way: election. I'm disappointed no Republicans are running against him and no moderate Democrats can make any traction in the polls.
There is no such thing as "hysteria" which is intended to hasten the removal of someone who is manifestly unfit to hold high office. Even worse, there has not been a single day, or minute, of his term so far when he has been fit for office.
Republicans should be organizing with all their might to make sure that he is not on their ticket next November. Instead they endlessly complain that Trump is not "treated fairly". It is all completely absurd.
Not even Democratic leadership thinks that is true or they would have pursued it long ago. Hastening the removal of someone from office when you can't even establish the grounds for it is the very definition of hysteria (btw, you not liking him is not grounds).
In a representative government such as ours, where we respect the rule of law, the non-hysterical person either establishes clear grounds for removal or waits until the next election.
It should be clear by now that they are too afraid of intraparty division to go that route. They had the chance in 2016 to deprive Trump of the nomination (which is what Democrats did to Bernie Sanders) and they didn't take it. They still operate under Reagan's 11th Commandment. It works for them, I suppose.
just because the GOP keeps moving and changing the goal posts and goal lines,
doesn't in any way mean trump has not reached, and or crossed, these lines,
cause he has, and continues to go way further tjan impeachable offenses thought fine for a
Democrat.
Hypocritical buffoons !
Funny, the Democrats had no lines when it came to Bill Clinton being impeached. Perjury? "He lied about sex". Obstruction? "Obstruction is not grounds for impeachment". It was all "One vast right wing conspiracy".
But for Trump there is a new line every second that he has crossed. Winning an election is not an impeachable offense. No matter how the left want to spin it.
No, just most of Europe.
He's not stealing, he's just spending. He is however profiting from foreigners hand over fist.
I can see why you'd think so because that takes a desire to review the evidence.
Facts aren't hysteria.
That’s why your comment is a great example of what I have been talking about.
My statement that facts aren't hysteria is a great example of what you've been talking about? Really? How so?
Your pattern is consistent; I'll give ya that.
To review, I said,
But then your response changes that,
See, I didn't say just that statement. I said "comment" and I was referring to the whole post. You know - or should know - I'm right about the overall comment.
You know - or should know - that saying Trump is trying to hand the country over to most of Europe is hysteria, not factual.
You know - or should know - that claiming without evidence that Trump is profiteering from foreigners is hysteria, not factual.
You know - or should know - that claiming I am not interested in reviewing evidence is hysteria, and not factual.
So you know - or should know - what I meant when I said your comment was an example of hysteria over facts. But you won't engage with people honestly. Instead you want to play this ridiculous game. You do it all the time with me where you ignore the things that were said so you can cherry pick some small snippet out of context and deflect from the conversation. What a waste!
Engage with the content of my comment or go away, but please don't try to troll me anymore. It's so tiresome.
Perhaps these will help some of our friends here. God knows they need it.
"Fear can be a strong motivator."
"Worry" is the most wasted emotion entrenched in humankind."
"Worry comes from self pity. When self is forgotten, there is no worry. Worry comes also from fear and fear comes from the clouds of ignorance. Light breaks the clouds."
--Author unknown--
And all of the above lead to the hysteria of which you speak. Great post my friend.
I cited the comment that you block quoted. I didn't 'change' a fucking thing.
You know, or should know, that isn't what I meant. I meant that Trump is trying to hand over most of Europe to the Russians. READ MORE CAREFULLY.
Volker's transcript shows that the Ukrainians stayed at Trump's DC Hotel and Giuliani uses it for his meetings.
Here's an article about foreign government spending @ Trump properties that you claim is 'hysteria'.
There are a plethora of like articles and there are also court filings that document what you are desperate to insist is 'hysteria'.
No Tacos!, that's call an OPINION, not hysteria.
Gee Tacos!, your devolution to your MO of making personal comments toward me didn't take very long. You critique about honesty is hysteria, not factual. Well done.
Actually, Hazrat Inayat Khan is pretty well known. It's unfortunate that you truncated his saying.
I made a simple request:
I even used the P-word. You couldn't be bothered. Big Surprise.
Your 'simple request' is a personal attack.
BTFW, note that I block quoted and addressed your ENTIRE comment, NOT just the one sentence you addressed.
As for addressing the content of comments, heal thyself.
Perhaps you can provide the rest of the saying. It's all I could find out of about a gazillion.
Thanks,
From Hazrat Inayat Khan's 'The Complete Sayings" :
Self-pity
Self-pity is the worst poverty; it overwhelms man until he sees nothing but illness, trouble, and pain.
Self-pity is the worst poverty. When a person says, "I am to be pitied," before he says anything more he has diminished himself by half; and what is said further diminishes him totally.
Worry comes from self-pity. When the self is forgotten, there is no worry. Worry comes also from fear, and fear comes from the clouds of ignorance. Light breaks the clouds.
Self-pity is the worst poverty; it overwhelms man until he sees nothing but illness, trouble, and pain.
Context matters.
I saw all four of those. The subject was worry. Not the overall subject of pity. Get it now?
Yes, I get that you had to truncate Hazrat Inayat Khan's "Self-Pity" saying in order to get it to fit into your posit. Oh and then you had to pretend that it was from an unknown author. Bad Form.
wtf
Oh God. We all know what it means. Geez.
WTF
I think the writer is confused. It was wikileaks that was posting shit about Clinton just about daily right up to election day. Weird that those dumps literally stopped on election day.
TRANSLATION - The drip drip drip of damned evidence against Trump really is getting to the gop...
Chinese Water Torture is like Maxwell House Coffee,
Good to the last Drop !
The Chinese are being criticized enough these days, but the "Chinese Water Torture" is NOT Chinese:
was it used on them ?
origin of name?
If you read what I linked, this is the beginning of that article:
The article does not say the Chinese used that method of torture, but it gives examples of the horrible kinds of torture that they did use.
Chinese water torture pales in comparison to American water torture. "I'm like a really smart guy," DJT. The wonderment and brilliance of it all.