Steve Bannon Will be Charged with Criminal Contempt Today
Steve Bannon may be the first individual referred to the Justice Department for refusing to appear after receiving a Congressional subpoena. I guess he doesn't have the energy to cite the Fifth Amendment. He would prefer to drink a fifth rather than take the Fifth.
The Committee investigating the causes and occurrences surrounding the January 6th insurrection wants to find out what went on in meetings that Bannon (with Rudi Guiiani and others) participated in at on January 5th and 6th at the Willard Hotel (a few blocks from the White House). At the same time, Roger Stone was in The Willard Hotel with as many as 50 Oath Keepers. It appears that the Willard Hotel was ground zero for sedition.
Bannon had actually been in close touch with President Trump for days before January 6th," said Costa on MSNBC.
"Based on our reporting, he privately told President Trump to have a reckoning on January 6th.Woodward, a former Washington Post associate editor, and Costa, a national political reporter, also reported in Peril that on December 30, Bannon convinced Trump to return to Washington D.C. on January 6, the day that Biden's 2020 election win was to be certified by Congress.
"You've got to return to Washington and make a dramatic return today," Bannon said to Trump, according to the book. "You've got to call [Vice President Mike] Pence off the f**king ski slopes and get him back here today. This is a crisis."
"People are going to go, 'What the f**k is going on here?'" Bannon said of the looming election. "We're going to bury Biden on January 6th, f**king bury him."
Bannon served as White House chief strategist and senior counselor to Trump from January 2017 until August 18, 2017, when he was fired by Trump. Bannon allegedly used over $1 million from the Trump campaign for personal benefits and was arrested in August 2020. He pleaded not guilty to the charges.
https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-confirms-his-involvement-january-6-insurrection-war-room-podcast-1631667
The following article articulates the Retrumplican strategy:
In House subpoena fight, Steve Bannon may best Democrats without a winning argument
By Jessica Levinson, MSNBC Opinion Columnist
Now for another episode of the show I like to call “Steve Bannon Vs. the Law.” Like previous episodes, Bannon may have a weak legal argument but still come out triumphant — as in season one, when he was pardoned by then-President Donald Trump, for allegedly defrauding Trump’s own supporters.
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Bannon’s decision to defy a valid congressional subpoena is why the Jan. 6 committee will meet on Tuesday, Oct. 19, to vote on referring Bannon for federal criminal contempt charges. After the Select Committee votes, the full House will vote on whether to recommend that the Department of Justice bring criminal contempt of Congress charges against him. Assuming the House votes in favor of the referral, it will be up to the DOJ to determine if it will bring charges.
Steve Bannon IS a contemptible criminal!
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Steve Bannon is a piece of shit.
roger stone is making calls to get bannon clipped before he blabs...
He looks like a Mafia Don, doesn't he?
Roger Stone or Steve Bannon?
Roger Stone. He has that John Gotti look
Wait, what?
Both wear expensive suits. Put a hat on Gotti and he could almost pass for Stone
What about DOJ precedent?
In 2015, former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner was also referred by the House to the Justice Department for prosecution—but the Obama administration declined.
Bannon wanted to overthrow the United States government. He belongs in prison.
What the hell is wrong with "conservatives" today ?
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It doesnt matter whether it could have happened or not. The then president of the United States wanted it to happen and is currently working to make it easier to do next time.
These traitors have to be rooted out.
As for Tig, I'm sure he can speak for himself. If he takes all this lightly then he has problems too. But I doubt you are accurately representing him.
You see, John just told you how it is - it's always different when it's a Trump official. For proof John is offering Bannon's rhetoric.
John Eastman personally presented Trump with a plan to steal the election. This was done in the oval office. Trump approved of the plan. We know this is so because Trump later told Mike Pence to listen to Eastman.
We also know that in his speech to his rally on the morning of Jan 6 Trump once again praised Eastman and suggested that Pence follow what Eastman suggested. This was hours before Pence was to preside over the electoral vote counting procedure.
This fucking guy is busted.
The refusal of "the right" to accept this truth is seriously damaging this country.
Short memory? Let me see if I can help...........
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I have nothing to do with Tig underplaying the seriousness of this situation. You will have to talk to him about it.
I don't think Jim is portraying TiG's thoughts accurately
He didn't portray. He used TiG's exact words.
Then show us the link where TiG said it or I'm deleting this entire thread
Those are TiG's thoughts. Did ya miss the link?
It's right above your {deleted} note in my post................JFC
You deleted the last part of my post with the link as you neglected to click the link.
Yes, I missed the link. Thank you for pointing it out.
Now let's stop discussing TiG. He's not the subject of this seed. Anymore comments concerning him will be deleted
Sorry but I could not let JR's comment go unchallenged. I'll stop.
Jim, it is not a good practice to quote someone else from a different article in a different context and apply it to the current context.
My comment was in response to the article: "How close were we to an actual stolen election — stolen by Trump?"
I answered the title question with my comment @5 which you quoted:
That response expresses my position that the worst Trump could have done is trigger a constitutional crisis and that there is no way on the planet he would have succeeded in being sworn in for a second term.
Your comment is gone, but I do not see how you quoting me applies to this comment from JR:
My comment does not even mention Bannon or his intentions.
Sorry TiG but when JR says Bannon wanted to overthrow the Government, the key word was want. I just pointed out that "want in one hand and shit in the other" came into play........through your very well put example and post. Just quoting clear thoughts from another member.
And I really don't care about form and quoting. People use relevant quotes from all SORTS of sources here at NT and I thought yours was one quite relevant of those to squelch some noise.
Sorry I chose you........................
Ah-hah!
We also know that in his speech to his rally on the morning of Jan 6 Trump once again praised Eastman and suggested that Pence follow what Eastman suggested. This was hours before Pence was to preside over the electoral vote counting procedure.
Then why did Trump tell the crowd to go in peace?
This fucking guy is busted.
Is that why they need every document in the Trump White House?
I still do not see how my quote supports your point in any way. The fact that Bannon had little chance of overturning the election does not mean he did not have the intent ('want') of changing the results of the election.
Now, on the other hand, if JR was arguing that Bannon might have succeeded in overturning the election (rather than making a statement on his intent and actions) then I could see how my quote would apply.
JR is using it to tie the "overthrow the government" narrative he's been pushing since Jan 7. Wanting something and being able to do it are two different things. But he will parrot it till the cows come home and it's old and sickening as hell but he continues to push it. I used your example to show, as I think you did, that that happening was at best a misconceived pipe dream and he needs to let go.
Give it up, Jim. TiG is now here explaining his own words and you trying to tell TiG what he meant in the context of what John wrote [deleted]
I am hardly the only one in America who thinks Trump tried to overthrow his own government. Try using google or bing on the topic.
The idea that unless something succeeds it didnt happen is absurd.
Hitler wanted to overthrow the regional government in Bavaria in 1923. His coup attempt barely got off the ground and didnt come close to succeeding. He was still thrown in prison for it.
All people, like yourself more than likely, that are and/or were never Trumpers to begin with. I know that opinion is out there and sure as hell don't need Google to tell me that FFS.
He thought I was going to give myself a ticket....
And JR knows that:
The fact that Trump (/ Bannon) were not going to prevail is irrelevant. Attempted murder, for example, is not dismissed simply because the would-be murderer had little chance of success. You are posing a strange argument.
Still gotta prove they planned it and had others well on board and organized than hoping for it by your very "attempted murder" analogy. Good day all of you.
IMPASSE
There is no IMPASSE anymore and you just illustrated why. IMPASSE cannot be used to stifle a rebuttal.
Of course the allegations need to be determined with a judicial process. Who is arguing otherwise??
The point, seems to me, is that an attempted crime is not dismissed simply because the likelihood of success is low. You understand that, right?
Yes a local guy was just charged with attempted bank robbery (among many other charges) after pointed a hand gun at a drive through teller. I'm pretty sure his lawyer won't get him off using this, "but he never had a chance to succeed..." defense.
Isn't that what the Select Committee is doing?
If two or more people agree to commit a crime and change their minds later (or if they simply fail to commit the crime for any reason), they are still guilty of criminal conspiracy.
Conspiracy
An agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal act, along with an intent to achieve the agreement's goal. Most U.S. jurisdictions also require an overt act toward furthering the agreement. An overt act is a statutory requirement, not a constitutional one. See Whitfield v. United States , 453 U.S. 209 (2005). The illegal act is the conspiracy's "target offense.
"https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/conspiracy
The Eastman plan was not illegal. It was stupid and had no chance of success, but the whole point of it was to follow the law.
The idea that it’s A basis for charging anyone with a criminal attempt to overthrow the government is laughable.
The Eastman plan was based on bullshit and it violated the Constitution. Fortunately, Pence realized this and he refused to violate the Constitution.
It's not a crime to advocate for actions that are found to be unconstitutional.
You realize Barack Obama isn't in jail for his unconstitutional actions, right?
Again, it was a plan to change the election result by following election law. Last time I looked, following the law isn't overthrowing the government or a putsch.
I hope her efforts are motivated by trying to salvage the family name before daddy croaks.
Why would post that in response to what I wrote? Do you imagine it's relevant to my post?
The Eastman plan was for Pence to declare that the election was in dispute in 7 states, and thus the electoral votes for those states would not be counted.
That was a lie, none of those 7 states were in legal dispute.
It is amazing how blithely Trumpsters want to discount the evidence of his traitorous actions.
Maybe this country deserves to go down the drain if this is the best we can do to protect our democracy.
Exactly right.
From the Eastman memo:
PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
January 6 scenario
7 states have transmitted dual slates of electors to the President of the Senate.
1. VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required).
2. When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act.
3. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States.
No states transmitted dual slates of electors. Eastman's premise is bullshit. Each state presented one slate of electors.
Yes, John. That's why Eastman's argument had no chance of succeeding. Even if Pence had declared followed Eastman's strategy, the issue would have been resolved legally to trump's detriment.
The idea that's its the same Hitler's beer hall putsch is insane. Eastman wanted to have Trump installed through the legal process, Hitler tried to seize Germany by force. I have no idea how you can conflate the two actions.
There is no installing through a "legal process" that includes saying that 7 states were in dispute when there results had been certified by the states. NO ONE filed alternate sets of electors in those states because there werent any.
Keep downplaying this - whatever shred of credibility you have left will float away.
What do you imagine was happening on January 6th? You had Congress and the VP performing their duties. If a dispute had arisen, it would have been settled under the laws and Constitution. Pence spared us the process by ignoring Eastman's memo, but even if he had followed it, the contest would have been settled legally. The dispute would have been settled under the Constitution and US law, not with the barrel of a gun.
O ONE filed alternate sets of electors in those states because there werent any.
Who is disputing that?
Keep downplaying this
You are comparing a misguided and obviously doomed attempt to change the election results through the legal process with a military putsch. Get a grip before you lose your last shred of credibility.
There's a reason Eastman isn't charged with any crimes.
You want to whitewash Trump's role in and responsibility for trying to steal the election and overthrow the incoming government.
Its that simple. Talking about this is not the law and that is not the law..... who gives a fuck? We all know what he did and you keep defending it. Utterly inexplicable.
I call BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talking about this is not the law and that is not the law..... who gives a fuck
Yeah, who cares what the law is when you accuse someone of breaking it. Stalin couldn't have said it better himself.
We all know what he did and you keep defending it. Utterly inexplicable.
What's inexplicable is you confuse pointing out reality with "defending Trump"
Everyone here knows what you do, there is no secret about it.
I dont care if Trump broke "the law". He wanted to be kept in office by whatever means possible, as long as it worked. Broke the law, didnt break the law makes no difference whatsoever to him.
We need for conservatives, Republicans and Trumpsters to DENOUNCE him, once and for all , and for ever. And say he is "dead " to them.
Can you do that ?
‘keep defending it. Utterly inexplicable. ‘
“What's inexplicable is you confuse pointing out reality with "defending Trump". “
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What took so long?
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Bannon is the next right wing martyr. Move over Ashley Babbitt.
The committee had to meet and vote.
American government has never been known to act quickly.
Hobo Santa behind bars would be nice to see.
Maybe they'll finally get him a shave and a shower
He looks so scummy.
Oh, you dirty boy, you.
And noooooobody needs a scratch and sniff in order to sample what is wafting off of him in just about every photo out there.
That is something I would never scratch.
Yep...and you are being kind.
The DoJ will need to review the committee charges and decide if they want to pursue a criminal court case. Hobo Santa will then be able to do everything anyone else can to delay and tie up litigation for as long as possible.
One can hope.
If Merrick and the DOJ decide not to indict, may God have mercy on their souls.
He will become other inmate's ho ho ho.
I actually had that thought when I posted Hbo Santa behind bars.
GMTA.
When honesty is not an option , you do whatever you can.
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Why is bowing to, and outwardly idolizing, men of such low character ok with you? Do you honestly think that serving men like Donald Trump and Steve Bannon will somehow give you power over others, or provide you with vast riches and other-worldly wealth? Not only do you put on a pedestal those who enrich themselves by cheating others, but you brag about it like it's an honor that they allow you to serve them. Perhaps if you had more respect for yourself, you could be free from the metaphoric chains that keep you in servitude to men like Donald Trump and his dishonest and otherwise like-minded friends.
Here is where I usually put a mildly comical, yet ball-slapping translation, but I don't think that's necessary today.
Yeah...after that bitch slap I think that would be overkill
Sometimes I just can't help over-presenting an argument. I decided to cut this one short.
U sound like Lorrraina Bobbitt there, but I once overstated an argument as well, but wound up in Camden NJ, as that would be , one state over
Couldn't happen to a bigger slob...
Do inmates get 2 shirts? Could be a bargaining point.
I'm surprised that the Trumpanzees haven't commented here to show their support for Bannon.
I think vic is trying to figure out why his Biden Hate Fest seed is all fucked up.
Because he can't find his ass with 2 hands.
Thank you. Her hands found her ass...
UPDATE:
Jan. 6 committee advances report to hold Steve Bannon in
criminal contempt
By Melissa Macaya
What you need to know
Am I the only one who doesn't see a pardon in his future?
Unless trmp gets re-elected....
You can slap me later