Watch protesters harass local reporter at reopening rally

  
Via:  Trout Giggles  •  3 months ago  •  173 comments

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Watch protesters harass local reporter at reopening rally
News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask.

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News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask. Source: CNN Business

Watch protesters harass local reporter at reopening rally


News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask. Source: CNN Business

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Trout Giggles
1  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 months ago

No comment. The video speaks for itself.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 months ago

One can only wonder what the moron count was at that rally. Remember the Daily Show videos that show how stupid the people at Trump rallies are? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 months ago

I counted at least 3

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    3 months ago
I counted at least 3

With a whole 98 IQ shared between them...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.2    3 months ago

Or as my mother used to say...."One brain cell between them and it's on life support"

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
1.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 months ago

It is ONLY going to get worse, and more violent. Trump is goading his supporters to violent acts. He is desperate to stay in office for fear that he will die in JAIL, where he belongs.

Will you die for this CROOK?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @1.2    2 months ago

No, I wouldn't die for him, but I would die for my country and my family.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2  Tacos!    3 months ago

Reporter walks into a crown of people and points a camera at them. Then he takes it personally when they engage him?

I guess it never occurs to the media to consider the possibility that they may have done something to actually incur the wrath of people out in the world. These people are just crazy, right?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2    3 months ago

Taco's he's there to report. Does that deserve the level of anger he got? One guy should have been charged with menacing. He was actually being aggressive. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    3 months ago

In all fairness, do you think it was smart of him to be right there on the sidewalk walking among them? Seriously did he think that he might not be received well knowing how people who want to open feel about the media? I just think he could have used better judgement than joining them on the sidewalk. But possibly, he wanted confrontation to fit the narrative.  JMHO

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.1    3 months ago

Jim other than being there to report, what did he do that was wrong? Does he not have the right to be there? If they have freedom of speech, why doesn't he? And in actuality, he did do a fair report which I included down below. 

I'm sorry, but there were some first class asses there, and it isn't even their town.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.1    3 months ago

If you watch the video and the twitter link that Perri shared below you will see that he was there to report on re-opening. The few protestors that got in his face were screaming about fake news and menacing him

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.2    3 months ago

I am quite surprised they weren't in Albany at the Statehouse like most protesters in other states are doing but I guess that would have taken a lot longer to travel there. And yes, they were asses. But they knew better than to physically confront him in front of a camera. I stand with the "he should have known" part. Although a Draconian example, wonder if one would walk into enemy camp to interview the "enemy" on why they were so pissed off and fighting the war. Again, JMHO

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.3    3 months ago

I understand that.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.4    3 months ago

But he is not the enemy. He is a local news reporter from Long Island. Everyone here knows News 12, and they are not political. They are just a local news station for Long Island. And he actually did turn out a fair news report, which I have included here. 

Also, these protesters are from another town. It is they who violated another town. If they wanted to protest, they could have stayed in their town, but they picked Commack because that is a democratic town, in a mostly republican Suffolk county. I am not saying that they didn't have the right, but that reporter had the same right to be there to cover this.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.6    3 months ago

Agreed. Not disputing his right to be there at all. Just saying if he didn't expect some form of push back he wasn't thinking but, again, I think he knew it 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.8  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.1    3 months ago
In all fairness, do you think it was smart of him to be right there on the sidewalk walking among them?

Why bother protesting without media coverage?  Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a public protest?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.9  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.7    3 months ago

I want to see you say something similar when a reporter does a story about lefty protestors

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.7    3 months ago

Jim,

Loads of reporters go to protests and are do not receive menacing. I mean there was an anger there that was just not appropriate, and had the tables been turned, and those were liberals acting that way, would you give them a pass?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.9    3 months ago

Okay. Not a problem. The same will/would be true. Once he mingled in the crowd and the shit hit the fan, possibly he should have gone across the street for a pan shot report.like he did toward the end. He stayed among them. Perhaps you can say why? In watching the report, I noticed the camera person had no trouble taking his shots of the crowd even standing only feet away. 

And BTW, I am not saying i condone those asshats doing that. I'm saying it should have been expected. 

That's it, I'm out. Enjoy!!

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    3 months ago
Taco's he's there to report.

What is that supposed to mean? He gets to point cameras at people, edit footage how he likes, provide commentary on the actions of people, and then broadcast it all over the world. And no one gets to tell him what they think of his product? Like Hell!

One guy should have been charged with menacing.

You mean as in threatening someone's life? Like with a weapon? That's usually what menacing is. I didn't see that. It didn't happen.

He was actually being aggressive.

Aggressive how? By walking toward him? By giving him the finger? Some people consider having a camera shoved at them as aggressive. Reporters are aggressive all the time. Every day they approach people who don't want to talk to them. They always respond with "the people have a right to know." That excuses everything in their eyes.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.12    3 months ago
What is that supposed to mean? He gets to point cameras at people, edit footage how he likes, provide commentary on the actions of people, and then broadcast it all over the world. And no one gets to tell him what they think of his product? Like Hell!

First of all, I have done live reporting. I did it from "Occupy Wall Street" and no one attacked me there. Second, I included the full report which showed that he was fair to them. The only commentary there was, was what was happening to him. One man gave an interview and was very civil. But I am sorry, when you have to keep moving because some guy is keeps getting in your face, that guy has the problem, not the reporter.

One guy should have been charged with menacing. You mean as in threatening someone's life? Like with a weapon? That's usually what menacing is. I didn't see that. It didn't happen.

No, I mean like in the legal sense of "Menacing"

Menacing Law  and  Legal Definition Menacing  is a crime governed by state laws, which vary by state, but typically involves displaying a weapon or a course of conduct that intentionally places another person in reasonable fear of physical injury or death.

Specifically:

He or she repeatedly follows a person or engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts over a period of time intentionally placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death

https://definitions.uslegal.com/m/menacing/

That is exactly what that guy did. The reporter kept backing away and he kept engaging him no matter how far back he went.

Aggressive how? By walking toward him? By giving him the finger? Some people consider having a camera shoved at them as aggressive. Reporters are aggressive all the time. Every day they approach people who don't want to talk to them. They always respond with "the people have a right to know." That excuses everything in their eyes.

Clearly the camera is right next to the reporter and not in the face of this guy. How was this cameraman or reporter aggressive? I'm sorry, I don't see it. Finally, everyone knows this guy, since everyone here watches news 12. He is familiar to all of us. This is a local news station, and the whole purpose of this protest was to make the residents uncomfortable and to be on the news. There is no statehouse there. There are no government buildings. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.14  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.6    3 months ago
But he is not the enemy. He is a local news reporter from Long Island. Everyone here knows News 12, and they are not political.

Seems some of the protesters knew exactly who he was; and didn't feel the same way.

Also, these protesters are from another town. It is they who violated another town. If they wanted to protest, they could have stayed in their town, but they picked Commack because that is a democratic town, in a mostly republican Suffolk county. I am not saying that they didn't have the right, but that reporter had the same right to be there to cover this.

Nice double talk. Not denying their right to protest there; but at the same time saying they should have protested in their own town? They didn't "violate" anything. They were protesting on public property. It is the "new norm", to use all of the adds I have heard recently, for protesters to come in from various areas.It happens at every protest no matter where it is held.

The reporter did "his job" and got exactly the reaction he was looking for. I loved his "personal space" garbage. You walk into a crowd of protesters that are moving about, and you know are going to be angry at your presence; but expect your 6 feet of personal space to be honored? If you watch the video the protesters mostly not wearing masks, are all well within 6 feet of each other. The reporter was stupid enough to believe they wouldn't treat him the same.

Hopefully his next "factual report" will be an Antifa protest. Then he will see what having his "personal space" violated is really all about.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.14    3 months ago
Seems some of the protesters knew exactly who he was; and didn't feel the same way.

Seems like the protesters don't know how to behave in a civil manner either.

Nice double talk. Not denying their right to protest there; but at the same time saying they should have protested in their own town? They didn't "violate" anything. They were protesting on public property. It is the "new norm", to use all of the adds I have heard recently, for protesters to come in from various areas.It happens at every protest no matter where it is held.

How is that double talk? I am discussing the reason they were there in the first place. Nowhere did I say that they should be protesting in their town, did I? And I said they had the right to protest there, too. There is just no real reason for them to be there other than to disturb the residents of that town.

The reporter did "his job" and got exactly the reaction he was looking for. I loved his "personal space" garbage. You walk into a crowd of protesters that are moving about, and you know are going to be angry at your presence; but expect your 6 feet of personal space to be honored?

OK being chased down the sidewalk is actually menacing. Look it up.

If you watch the video the protesters mostly not wearing masks, are all well within 6 feet of each other. The reporter was stupid enough to believe they wouldn't treat him the same.

He only had a complaint about the one guy who was getting in his face. There is a difference. 

Hopefully his next "factual report" will be an Antifa protest. Then he will see what having his "personal space" violated is really all about.

Antifa is a menace. But two wrongs don't make a right.

 
 
 
cjcold
2.1.16  cjcold  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.10    3 months ago

Trump has brainwashed his followers to hate the MSM. Only Fox is allowed in the new Trump Reich. Pretty sure this scares the shit out of me.

 
 
 
MAGA
2.1.17  MAGA  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.3    3 months ago

I saw this on Fox News and the protesters had reasons for being upset and calling that station out as fake news. David Marcus was right today in the New York Post.  

 
 
 
MAGA
2.1.18  MAGA  replied to  cjcold @2.1.16    3 months ago

OAN, Newsmax TV, Breitbart News, WND, Town Hall radio, CNS, will always be allowed, not just Fox News.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.19  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @2.1.17    3 months ago

What are you talking about? They go to another town to make trouble and the local small news station covers it? Give me a break. They were pissed before the news got there. This was the second time of them annoying another town with their protest. Maybe the residents of Commack and protest on their streets about not wanting unwanted protests in their town.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.20  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.19    3 months ago
make trouble

What trouble did they make? Please tell us. Did they block traffic? Did the police have to arrest any of them? Did they do anything illegal- except violate the reporter's "personal space" that was stupid enough to get within 6 feet of them to begin with?

They were pissed before the news got there.

They are protesters. Of course they were pissed off. Otherwise they wouldn't be protesting. Who the hell ever heard of a cheerful protest? Think the media would give a cheerful protest two seconds of coverage?

This was the second time of them annoying another town with their protest.

So annoying is now against the law? Or maybe you were annoyed? Some of the cars honked at the protesters in agreement. Think they were annoyed by the protest?

Maybe the residents of Commack and protest on their streets about not wanting unwanted protests in their town.

Go right ahead- just make sure you (plural) don't violate any laws. It is your right to do so.

You want an example of a protest that breaks laws?
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45340184/ns/us_news-life/t/police-occupy-wall-street-protesters-arrested-nyc/#.Xsj5dqhKiUk

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wallstreet-protests/more-than-700-arrested-in-wall-street-protest-idUSTRE7900BL20111002

https://open.mitchellhamline.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=policypractice

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=642228586240524

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:7990844810

 
 
 
Ender
2.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2    3 months ago

So protesters can take up public space and how dare anyone come near them...

That you are going to actually defend these people...

Oh yeah, it is someone else at fault and not them for what they say and do...

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.2    3 months ago
So protesters can take up public space

Yes, they can, as long as they aren't blocking traffic, which they clearly weren't.

how dare anyone come near them

That's not what I saw. I saw them criticizing the reporter for the coverage they have been seeing on his network. But even if they did complain about someone coming near them, it would be pretty hypocritical of the reporter to complain - as he did - that people were invading his "personal space." See?:

and some invaded his personal space

So it's ok for him to walk into a group of them with his camera, but they can't invade his personal space? What a hypocrite! What a baby!

That you are going to actually defend these people

What's to defend? They are expressing themselves legally. At least they aren't wearing masks and physically attacking people. Guess who does that?

 
 
 
Ender
2.2.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.1    3 months ago

So yes, you are going to defend people being assholes.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.2.2    3 months ago
So yes, you are going to defend people being assholes.

How are they assholes? They told this guy they didn't like the coverage on his network. I guess as long as the media preaches the message you like, they are above criticism, eh? 

 
 
 
Ender
2.2.4  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.3    3 months ago

Did you watch the video?

He is a local reporter.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.2.4    3 months ago
He is a local reporter.

So? I'm just describing what people were saying to him. Criticism and even anger are not threats.

 
 
 
cjcold
2.2.6  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.5    3 months ago

Trump has conditioned his far right wing supporters to hate the press that actually gave him a pass in 2016.

About time for wide spread honest journalism that nails Trump into his political coffin.

 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @2    3 months ago

He was asking people to maintain their distance. He has a right to do that. He at least was wearing a mask trying to protect others around him. These people are not wearing masks and practically in his face. He is more at risk than they are to COVID

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3    3 months ago
He was asking people to maintain their distance. He has a right to do that.

He does? How much distance does he have a right to? Watch the video. He walks right up to people who are minding their own business and points a camera right at them. When he puts himself mere inches from people, that's just good journalism, but when someone approaches him to within just a few feet, he's suddenly being attacked or something. What bullshit!

These people are not wearing masks

And yet, like a moron, he just walked into the middle of them. That's his own fault. He went to them, not the other way around. If he had shot his video from a distance, he wouldn't have had that problem.

They aren't obligated to wear masks just because some spineless reporter might walk into the midst of them all.

Although, if you watch the video, you will see there are a lot of people wearing masks.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.1    3 months ago
How much distance does he have a right to?

As much as he feels he needs to protect himself.

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.3  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.1    3 months ago
minding their own business

Haha   Really? So people protesting on a public street, yelling, waving signs, using megaphones or whatever is minding their own business?

Hahaha

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.2    3 months ago
As much as he feels he needs to protect himself.

Well then the people on the sidewalk have a right to that, too. Don't they? If they find him threatening, why doesn't he leave?

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.5  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.3.3    3 months ago
So people protesting on a public street, yelling, waving signs, using megaphones or whatever is minding their own business?

Yes. They didn't go about harassing people. They just expressed themselves where people could see them. This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people. when he could have just pointed a camera at them from across the street.

Then he goes crying to the internet when they say "mean things" to him. WAAAA!

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.6  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.3.3    3 months ago
So people protesting on a public street, yelling, waving signs, using megaphones or whatever is minding their own business?

Yes. Why don't you tell us whose business they were minding, then, if you disagree? Or maybe you think laughing is a persuasive argument.

Hahaha
 
 
 
Ender
2.3.7  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.6    3 months ago

I am just laughing at your ridiculous defence of these morons.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.8  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.3.7    3 months ago
I am just laughing at your ridiculous defence of these morons.

Yes, you do seem to have nothing to offer beyond laughing and name-calling.

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.9  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.8    3 months ago

Uh huh. Says the always trumper.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.10  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.3.9    3 months ago
Says the always trumper.

Not only is that not true, but you still offer only name-calling and no substance. And apparently you aren't aware that this story has nothing to do with Trump.

 
 
 
bugsy
2.3.11  bugsy  replied to  Ender @2.3.9    3 months ago
Says the always trumper.

Now we go to name calling. What page of the handbook is that in?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.5    3 months ago

Tacos he was there to report. The whole purpose of that protest was to be noticed. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @2.3.11    3 months ago

You know I didn't name call anyone. The protesters sure did. 

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.14  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.10    3 months ago

Have you still not watched the video?

It is about a group of PRO trump supporters....

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.15  Ender  replied to  bugsy @2.3.11    3 months ago

So calling someone pro trump is name calling?

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.16  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.12    3 months ago

They were just minding their own business doncha know...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.5    3 months ago
Yes. They didn't go about harassing people. They just expressed themselves where people could see them.

In a town that didn't invite them. They could have protested in their town but they didn't. 

This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people.

So freedom of speech goes only one way? I thought that freedom of the press was also guaranteed in the Constitution. 

This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people. when he could have just pointed a camera at them from across the street.

And then said what? Make up his own descriptor which you would then call biased? It is the job of reporters to get the actual words from these people's mouths. 

Then he goes crying to the internet when they say "mean things" to him. WAAAA!

That is his job. He didn't think that people would behave like assholes and curse in front of their kids, and yell at him shame on you, when he had said and done nothing other than being there. Only one man had the decency to talk to him and he let him have his say, without the reporter making any commentary of his own. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @2.3.16    3 months ago
They were just minding their own business doncha know...

Tell me about it.

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.3.19  bbl-1  replied to  Ender @2.3.15    3 months ago

Perhaps there are just some things that are embarrassing.  You know, like the MAGA hat for $30 from China?

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.20  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.17    3 months ago
In a town that didn't invite them.

So what? People travel all the time to protest in large groups.

So freedom of speech goes only one way?

Where did I say anything about limiting someone's speech? Oh wait . . . I didn't.

It is the job of reporters to get the actual words from these people's mouths.

Well then he's going to have to put up with listening to people say things that maybe he doesn't want to hear. That's just too bad, isn't it? Or do the people on the street owe him a hug and nothing but praise?

That is his job.

I didn't say he couldn't do his job. In fact, I think he's not doing his job.

I said he shouldn't whine when people say things he doesn't like. That's a judgment about what I think good journalism is, not what his rights are.

If he's there to cover the protest, then he should cover the protest. Instead, he made the story about him and the fact that some people there didn't like him. Is that really newsworthy? I don't think so. I don't think it's his job to report on the fact that some few people at a protest don't like him.

And it was a few people. Look at the video. Most of the people are ignoring him.

The story is supposed to be the protest and what the people are trying to say about the issue. 

that people would behave like assholes and curse in front of their kids

They're assholes because they don't like a reporter or a media outlet? And whether or not they curse in front of their kids is neither his business nor yours.

when he had said and done nothing other than being there

How do you know that? Maybe he has a history with that community. Maybe they have good reason to be angry at him.

Only one man had the decency to talk to him

Only one? How do you know? You think his video shows everything that happened that day?

And why is it the "decent" thing to talk to him? What if you don't want to talk to the press? Does that make you indecent? Nobody owes him an interview.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.20    3 months ago
In a town that didn't invite them.
So what? People travel all the time to protest in large groups.

I'm going to take the time to explain this to you. This group is from Setauket and instead of protesting there, they took it to a neighboring town, where no one is complaining. There are no government buildings there. There is no reason for them to be there.

So freedom of speech goes only one way? Where did I say anything about limiting someone's speech? Oh wait . . . Ididn't.

Oh wait you did. You said: 

This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people.

The word injected means that he had no business being. He had the same right to be there, if not more, since his job is to cover stories for News 12/ Cablevision.  

I said he shouldn't whine when people say things he doesn't like. That's a judgment about what I think good journalism is, not what his rights are.

I didn't think he whined. I would think that he wouldn't have to be chased down a sidewalk by an adult bully. 

The story is supposed to be the protest and what the people are trying to say about the issue.

Yes, and usually as with my interviews at OWS, if people don't want to be interviewed they walk away, instead of cursing you out, or chasing you down. 

How do you know that? Maybe he has a history with that community. Maybe they have good reason to be angry at him.

That is not their community. I keep saying that. They came to someone else's community to protest. And everyone knows this guy. He's a staple here on Long Island.

How do you know that? Maybe he has a history with that community. Maybe they have good reason to be angry at him.

Well, had you been watching the video, he tied to talk to other people. 

And why is it the "decent" thing to talk to him? What if you don't want to talk to the press? Does that make youindecent?Nobody owes him an interview.

You know what I meant. I meant that once person talked to him person to person, like normal people do, instead of screaming obscenities in front of children mind you. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.22  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.21    3 months ago
I'm going to take the time to explain this to you.

You know, you could have a little respect for the fact that you posted a video and the sole print explanation for what is happening in that video is this: 

Watch protesters harass local reporter at reopening rally

News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask.
and whatever captions are in the video. So you really don't have a right to expect me to know anything about context that isn't in the story you seeded.
There is no reason for them to be there.

So you claim, but why then would they all go if there is literally "no reason?" Did you contact them and then they told you it was random? I'm sorry, but the idea that there was literally no reason for all those people to go there doesn't make a lot of sense. I find it far more probable that they had a reason and you just don't know what it is.

You said: This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people.

That's right. I described his action. I never said he had no right to do it. That's a pretty important difference.

The word injected means that he had no business being.

No it doesn't. It doesn't mean that at all. What it means is that he took the initiative to interact with people on his own and therefore does not have reasonable grounds to complain when those people don't respond with the kind of words he wants to hear. It's not like they physically attacked him. That I would obviously condemn, but that didn't happen here.

I would think that he wouldn't have to be chased down a sidewalk by an adult bully. 

He could have tried standing his ground. Maybe then there wouldn't have been a chase. Maybe there could have just been a conversation.

if people don't want to be interviewed they walk away, instead of cursing you out, or chasing you down.

Yep, it's not a nice world. Sometimes people on Newstalkers disagree with me. Instead of ignoring me or just engaging in a conversation, they start right in telling me what a bad person I am. People aren't always nice.

in front of children

Yes, I'm sure we're all very concerned for the children. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.23  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.21    3 months ago
I'm going to take the time to explain this to you.

Now it's my opportunity to explain something to you. Since you only posted this one-sided video, I did a little internet research on the incident and found some roots to this story. As I suspected, there is some history between the group and this reporter - at least there is from their point of view.

From what I see, they had another protest on May 1 reported on by this same reporter. They felt his report was unfair to them, so they expressed their anger to his face. 

One other point.

they took it to a neighboring town, where no one is complaining

First, you don't know that "no one" is complaining in that town, but there is more to reopening than just your own town.

Your level of outrage at their traveling makes it sound like they came from another state or something and their lives couldn't possibly have any connection to this other town. But these two towns are only about 15 miles apart. You don't think maybe some of these people live or do business in both towns? 

People don't live their lives in the square mile or so around their house. I work 20 miles from my house. A lot of people do. True reopening for most people means opening up the county or even the state. So if you want to spread that message around, you might take it on the road. There's nothing unusual about that.

 
 
 
Freewill
2.3.24  Freewill  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3    3 months ago
He is more at risk than they are to COVID

Actually probably not.  He already had it and tested positive for it, and just recently emerged from quarantine.  At least according to his twitter feed.

 
 
 
Freewill
2.3.25  Freewill  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.23    3 months ago
From what I see, they had another protest on May 1 reported on by this same reporter. They felt his report was unfair to them, so they expressed their anger to his face.

That is certainly possible.  Here is that report.

http://longisland.news12.com/story/42079476/protesters-on-long-island-call-for-reopening-amid-covid19-pandemic

Not sure what they might have been angry about other than the several descriptions of a handful of people who said stupid things, perhaps as though they were representative of the rest of the crowd?

In any case, the protestors could have been more civil about it and explained their concerns in a rational reasonable manner, since they had a dude right there who was willing to air it on at least the local news.  When folks assume they will be treated badly, and make a big scene about it, then they probably will be.  That goes for protesters and reporters alike.

I also saw a followup with the organizer of the protest and he did apologize for the handful of folks who acted like asses, and pointed out that they were not representative of the rest of the crowd. 

At least these particular asses didn’t actually get violent with folks and throw rocks and Molotov cocktails through windows simply because someone with whom they disagreed was invited to town to speak.  A little perspective here is warranted I think.

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.26  Ender  replied to  bbl-1 @2.3.19    3 months ago

No one else got that.

Right over their heads....

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.27  Ender  replied to  Freewill @2.3.25    3 months ago
A little perspective here is warranted I think.

Imo a little perspective would not be thinking me or Trout or any of us are ok with left wing groups causing violence or being nasty. Not saying you in particular yet none of us ever endorsed such things and more than a few of us are on record condemning.

I may stick up for a cause yet I will not succumb to a certain level.

Not to say that I can't be an asshole. Sometimes it is fun. jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

Yet here we have a narrative trying to be pushed only for the purpose of shifting blame and to take the focus off of what the group represents because their actions cannot be defended any other way.

Hell we already had denial of what the group is.

Sad really.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.3.28  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.12    3 months ago
The whole purpose of that protest was to be noticed. 

That is the purpose of every protest.

 
 
 
Freewill
2.3.29  Freewill  replied to  Ender @2.3.27    3 months ago
Imo a little perspective would not be thinking me or Trout or any of us are ok with left wing groups causing violence or being nasty.

Excellent!  Because I never said or thought that you or Trout would be OK with left wing violence or nastiness.  I was just pointing out that we have seen worse treatment of reporters and of property at other protests. (i.e. lets put into perspective what these clowns did vs. what other clowns have done, that is all, politics aside). 

Yet here we have a narrative trying to be pushed only for the purpose of shifting blame and to take the focus off of what the group represents because their actions cannot be defended any other way.

Just so I am clear, you don't want others assuming that you and TG are OK with what you call left wing violence or nastiness, but yet you can go ahead and insist that others here are "shifting blame" and trying to take focus off what this group represents, or are trying to defend what a few of them did in some way?  Is that a fair approach in your mind?

So do you think that I and others here are ok with right wing groups causing violence or being nasty?  I for one have already said that I think the people in the video were being asses and that they should have approached the reporter rationally and with civility. In no way do I wish to take the focus off them or defend what they have done. I'm just asking, honestly, haven't we seen worse?  Is there some reason why this should be bigger news than violence or nastiness at other protests? 

 
 
 
MAGA
2.3.30  MAGA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.12    3 months ago

He could have covered it from across the street and interviewed protesters who wanted to go over there and speak their minds to him.  

 
 
 
cjcold
2.3.31  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3    3 months ago

Seems that according to "stand your ground" laws the news guy could have legally shot the insane MAGA fool/tool.

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.3.32  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @2.3.31    3 months ago
Seems that according to "stand your ground" laws the news guy could have legally shot the insane MAGA fool/tool.

Thank God you didn't tell the guy that one.

He might have believed you knew what you were talking about and done it.

Last I checked, New York is NOT a "stand your ground law" state.

 
 
 
shona1
2.3.33  shona1  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.32    3 months ago

A/noon..."Stand your ground law"??? You can shoot someone in the States for that?? Hell that would be classed as murder here and you will be doing a lot of jail time....

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.3.34  Texan1211  replied to  shona1 @2.3.33    3 months ago

Stand-your-ground Law
A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) establishes a right by which a person may defend one's self or others (right of self-defense) against threats or perceived threats, even to the point of applying lethal force, regardless of whether safely retreating from the situation might have been possible. Such a law typically states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place where they have a lawful right to be (though this varies from state to state) and that they may use any level of force if they reasonably believe the threat rises to the level of being an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm and/or death.
Stand-your-ground law - Wikipedia

 
 
 
shona1
2.3.35  shona1  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.34    3 months ago

Thanks Texan...If you move from State to State sure would have to know the law there...

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.3.36  Texan1211  replied to  shona1 @2.3.35    3 months ago
Thanks Texan...If you move from State to State sure would have to know the law there...

I would think it necessary to know the laws regarding guns and use of force no matter what state you live in.

 
 
 
bugsy
2.3.37  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.13    3 months ago
You know I didn't name call anyone.

If you notice, I did not respond to you. My comment was directed at who I responded to.

 
 
 
Ender
2.3.38  Ender  replied to  Freewill @2.3.29    3 months ago

No, I don't think you would at all. There are some I do wonder about...

I do think some are trying to basically say, so what. It is almost like it is becoming a norm or more or less accepted as a norm.

I also think the term 'protest' is being loosely used as I don't see what these people doing as a protest per say, more like a small rally.

Yes we have seen worse yet I don't think it really got that much coverage at all. We saw it here and talked about it. I don't watch cable news so couldn't tell you if they reported on it at all. Definitely not on my local news and didn't see any mention on my Apple news feeds.

 
 
 
Freewill
2.3.39  Freewill  replied to  Ender @2.3.38    3 months ago
It is almost like it is becoming a norm or more or less accepted as a norm

Unfortunately Ender, I think it has become the norm.  A group stages a rally or protest, a few people there take things too far (some terribly violent), the media sensationalizes it to get ratings, the political pundits try to one up their enemies by claiming the bad apples are typical of the larger group, "Look how awful and violent they ALL are, just like the rest of their party/ideology".  Lather, rinse and repeat. 

Meanwhile, the rest of the civilized world wonders what the fuck is wrong with us.   Why can't they get along?  And why do they always have to over-politicize everything instead of sticking to the facts and acknowledging that these few idiots in these situations do not represent the rest of the group, or the rest of the crowd that was there?  

At one point in time the political punditry component of these stories was confined to the spin mills and political blog venues like this, but now it has gone mainstream and it takes top billing.  We are saturated by it almost every day.   It truly has become the norm.  Not that I want to accept that, it is what it has become.  I'd like to see it change, but it will take a lot more than just a few of us to change it now. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.40  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.23    3 months ago

Actually I do happen to know how they residents there feel. One of my closest friends lives there, and they are sick of this group coming to their town to protest.

And if you think I am making this up, why not read the Commack Patch comment section:

https://patch.com/new-york/commack/posts

And I love how all you people vote up this comment. Would you like it if someone came to your town and told you how to live? 

People don't live their lives in the square mile or so around their house.

On Long Island we live in small towns with our own shopping areas. That is true of Commack as well as Setauket were these people are from. 

If you want to take it on the road, show up at the county building, not some strip in someone else's town. It goes to show what bullies and how inconsiderate they are.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.41  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @2.3.30    3 months ago
He could have covered it from across the street and interviewed protesters who wanted to go over there and speak their minds to him. 

No reporter does that. I didn't do it at OWS. People just behaved civilized (unlike the reports that were being circulated). 

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.3.42  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.40    3 months ago
And if you think I am making this up

Um ok. Have I ever accused you of a thing like that? I don't think so.

Would you like it if someone came to your town and told you how to live? 

Oh come on. That's happens all over the country. You really need to get past this idea that the people of a town have some right (legal or moral) to exclude people from conducting peaceful demonstrations in their town.

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.4  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @2    3 months ago
I guess it never occurs to the media to consider the possibility that they may have done something to actually incur the wrath of people out in the world. These people are just crazy, right?

Did you cheer on the crowd when they roughed up Andy Ngo in Portland

or join the chorus of conservatives here on NT that said he had a right to cover the protests?

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.4.1  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @2.4    3 months ago
Did you cheer on the crowd when they roughed up Andy Ngo in Portland

Did this crybaby get roughed up? No. Not remotely the same thing. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.4.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @2.4.1    3 months ago
And yet, like a moron, he just walked into the middle of them. That's his own fault. He went to them, not the other way around. If he had shot his video from a distance, he wouldn't have had that problem.

Your words.....yes, the same thing.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.4.3  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @2.4.2    3 months ago

How is it the same? Andy Ngo was punched, kicked, and had milk shakes thrown at him. Did any of that happen to this CNN reporter? No!

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.4.4  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @2.4.3    3 months ago
And yet, like a moron, he just walked into the middle of them. That's his own fault. He went to them, not the other way around.

Different results from the same moronic actions?

Defend one, berate the other?  That seems to be inconsistent.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.4.5  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @2.4.4    3 months ago
Different results from the same moronic actions?

Which action was moronic? What result are you talking about?

Defend one, berate the other?

I am critical of the reporter's whining about his treatment because I find it to be an extreme over reaction and misrepresentation of the truth. I don't really care about his actions as a reporter at the time, though I find them typical. I have an opinion and I can explain that opinion with the facts in front of us.

You want to call these people morons because . . . well that's just not clear. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.4.6  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @2.4.5    3 months ago
And yet, like a moron, he just walked into the middle of them. That's his own fault. He went to them, not the other way around. If he had shot his video from a distance, he wouldn't have had that problem.

Read your own comment to TG at 2.3.1

You called the reporter a moron, for doing his job for CNN.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.4.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Split Personality @2.4.6    3 months ago

It wasn't even CNN. It was News 12 Long Island. A local cable news station that just reports about things going on around the island that are newsworthy. 

You called the reporter a moron

And don't forget spineless. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.4.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.4.7    3 months ago

Umm guys, the reporter was from Long Island News 12, a local cable station. 

It's just that the story is so outrageous that it has been picked up by many news outlets including European ones. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.4.9  bbl-1  replied to  Split Personality @2.4.2    3 months ago

In other words, it is wise to observe the MAGA folk from a distance as one would do with observing a mother bear and her cubs?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.4.10  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  bbl-1 @2.4.9    3 months ago

Exactly!

 
 
 
cjcold
2.4.11  cjcold  replied to  bbl-1 @2.4.9    3 months ago

 MAGA folk from a distance 

I just self deleted a sniper reference.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
2.5  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tacos! @2    3 months ago
Reporter walks into a crown of people and points a camera at them. Then he takes it personally when they engage him?

Where I bought my Dodge the dealership messed up my paint .. long story!  I was involved with an individual that took idiot and "attempted' intimidation to the next level of ignorance - I had an appointment to speak with the 'Head master' of the dealership, and the big wig of the service department about said damage .. he tagged along..

Both men met me out front of the showroom.  All is good til numb nutz jumps out of my truck and starts recording these guys .. meeting was instantly over.. dealership dudes got more than a wee bit aggressive, demanding the filming cease - they did not want to be on camera!  Imagine that huh?

Everyone has rights .. the press has rights ..  so does the citizen that does not desire to be on camera!   When said individual not desiring to be filmed and the reporter seeking a story collide, it is the one filming that is, for the most part, controlling the narrative - the story can become a bigger deal ..  Do not agree with / nor condone the action of the protester .. but I think the press needs to take a step back .. the 'press' can film an event and put an individuals face out there  .. Live PD (as an example) has to have a signed release to expose an individuals face - if they do not have that - faces are blurred!

Of course I am speculating that the reporter had an agenda! 

 
 
 
Ender
2.5.1  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.5    3 months ago

I think it is more along the lines of a public event. Just like they do not have to blur every face that would get caught on camera at a football game or showing people at any public engagement.

From what I gather, the reporter is a local reporter for a local station in Long Island.

I would think a local reporter would report on what is going on in the neighborhood.

On my local news they show if there is any type of protest and tell us where and when and get shots of the people.

It is nothing new yet some are acting like he busted up in there and started demanding things or berating them just to get a response. Acting like it is some conspiracy he concocted just to try to make the trump supporters look bad.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.5.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.5    3 months ago

First of all Colour, I am so sorry that happened to you. No customer should have to go through that. That was beyond the pale and they had no right to film you.

I have covered live demonstrations. The point of demonstrating is to bring your grievances out to the public. I was at OWS. What I found as a reporter, that I could walk in with a camera and mic and just talk to people and ask them if they wanted to talk to me. Only one man was really awful but the rest wanted to get their POV out. In NY, if you are on public property (they were) the press is allowed to cover the event (he did). News 12 is our local cable station by our local cable provider. This was hardly agenda-driven, other than most days, it's pretty boring here. 

btw.. if anyone is interested in seeing me at Occupy Wall Street, you can see the various interviews go to youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/newstalkers

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.5.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.5.2    3 months ago
btw.. if anyone is interested in seeing me at Occupy Wall Street, you can see the various interviews go to youtube

First time I ever saw that baby girl.  Those were awesome interviews. 

 
 
 
Ender
2.5.4  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.5.3    3 months ago

I have seen a couple of them. Great job. Great bubbly personality too.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.5.5  Kavika   replied to  Ender @2.5.4    3 months ago

Perrie is a JIP so the bubbly personality, lazar focus is a natural reaction for her. jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
devangelical
2.5.6  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.5.2    3 months ago

I have those videos bookmarked. not because of OWS, but to hear the thick NYC accents. I love hearing them. it reminds me of some of my childhood friends that relocated from NYC to colorado in the mid 60's. sorry for the derail.

 
 
 
devangelical
2.5.7  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @2.5.5    3 months ago

JIP = jewish indian princess?

 
 
 
Kavika
2.5.8  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @2.5.7    3 months ago

You got it...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.5.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.5.3    3 months ago

Thanks good sister. Mike L got me to do them on a bet about what was really going on down there. I was very nervous. I hope it didn't show. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.5.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @2.5.4    3 months ago

Thanks Ender! I can be bubbly. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.5.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @2.5.5    3 months ago

And I smell pretty good after a shower, too! :)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.5.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  devangelical @2.5.6    3 months ago

I have a New York accent? Noooo... I have a Lawnguyland accent. :)

The people I interviewed had a New York accent. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.5.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @2.5.8    3 months ago
JIP = jewish indian princess? You got it...

Shooosh.... people don't know. 

 
 
 
devangelical
2.5.14  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.5.12    3 months ago

... more like a mouth full of cookie dough accent... that's okay, I really like women with charming accents. too bad they make most men sound like morons. of course I have no cause to judge, a western accent is basically the hospital food version of american regional dialects. our vowels are uh, eh, oh, and e, but we usually don't have to climb over every consonant in the alphabet. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
2.5.15  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @2.5.1    3 months ago
It is nothing new yet some are acting like he busted up in there and started demanding things or berating them just to get a response. Acting like it is some conspiracy he concocted just to try to make the trump supporters look bad.

Like I said .. it was speculation that the reporter had an agenda - I doubt that he did - yet it is not unheard of to have a reporter force a response. 

I find it interesting that an individuals image can be used in so many different ways without consent .. do you recall the episode that took place in DC .. the high school students splashed all over the internet / news with edited video portraying a false narrative ...  The disrespecting racist Trump loving lil bastards?  Their images (as minors) was released, as were their names.  TA DA the media was at their house ... death threats came as well.    Correct me if I am wrong .. but did they not also risk expulsion from school or may have been suspended ...

There is a big difference between asking someone if they will be interviewed on camera and just rolling up filming..

Just how I feel about the subject ….  I could go on, but I have a bad habit of veering (albeit slightly .. haha) off topic  : )...   I will say this though ..I believe that just because I am in public does not mean I give my consent for my image to be used ..  

Peace!

 
 
 
Ender
2.5.16  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.5.15    3 months ago

I still don't think that laws have caught up with technology.

At least from a public perspective.

Most of us are filmed everyday. Street cams, traffic cams, home security cams, store security cams. People filming from phones, taking pictures everywhere, not to mention tracked on phones, targeted advertising.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
2.5.17  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @2.5.16    3 months ago
I still don't think that laws have caught up with technology.

How can laws caught up, I got the new Samsung Note 10+ for Christmas, it is already becoming outdated?  Partisanship has to some degree crushed DC's ability to function..  by the time a bill winds through the process the next new thing is available.  

Most of us are filmed everyday. Street cams, traffic cams, home security cams, store security cams. People filming from phones, taking pictures everywhere, not to mention tracked on phones, targeted advertising.

Very true .. there are reasons I live in the state of Montana (beyond the fact that I am 6 generation Montanan)   reasons I do my best to stay informed ..  pay close attention to local / state elections, not only the individual on the ballot, but the initiatives being voted on, one must read the fine print  .. 

We have def reached the era of big brother is watching .. yet with all the cameras out there, my imagine is not being used .. the media can use my image just for being in public ..  I have a serious problem conforming .. so I have opted to be more reclusive! : )  One should not have to live in the Yaak Mountains in order to have privacy... yet alas .. it is coming to that for some of us...!

As always .. Peace!

 
 
 
Ender
2.5.18  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.5.17    3 months ago

Your not kidding. I am one of the people that will keep my phone until I either break it or it no longer functions properly. Last one I dropped one to many times. Can't see running out every year for the latest model. No way, too expensive. Especially for Apple, which I use.

Hey, I know a Hermit I could introduce you to.   Haha

I wish people would pay more attention to what our so called politicians are actually doing. One thing I get tired of is party over anything. Some people will only look as far as affiliation.

As far as the backlog in DC, we need to start keeping them up with the times. I look at how many in Washington are over seventy. We really need some young blood.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
2.5.19  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @2.5.18    3 months ago
Your not kidding. I am one of the people that will keep my phone until I either break it or it no longer functions properly.

Haha .. ditto!  When I was in the hospital my old phone went nutz .. I kept it afloat til Christmas - finally had to surrender to the inevitable and upgrade - I liked my antique phone!

Hey, I know a Hermit I could introduce you to.   Haha

 Thank you … alas I am single for a reason  : )  haha and loving every minute of it .. the 'empty nest' turns out to be quite amazing as well!

 I look at how many in Washington are over seventy. We really need some young blood.

Agreed .. yet I cringe at the youth that is in congress at this time....!

 
 
 
Ender
2.5.20  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.5.19    3 months ago
yet I cringe at the youth that is in congress at this time

Flash over substance.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
2.5.21  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @2.5.20    3 months ago

That is how I am seeing things .. in some ways it seems as if congress is a high school popularity contest .. giving me flash backs to Carrie!

 
 
 
Ender
3  Ender    3 months ago

Wow. That woman being nasty with her little kid. Disgusting horrid people.

Then I can only shake my head at the idiot saying how dare a store tell people to wear a mask. Hell just a little while back they were saying that a store owner could do whatever they wanted.

And the one idiot saying he didn't care because he has hydroxychloroquine. I guess he actually thinks he would be immune. Either he is lying or has some unethical doctor.

Proof that lemmings would jump off a cliff if donald told them to.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @3    3 months ago
And the one idiot saying he didn't care because he has hydroxychloroquine.

I think he was just messing with the reporter

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    3 months ago

True but sometimes I really wonder about some people.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    3 months ago
I think he was just messing with the reporter

Shoot... had that fool walked up on you like that, his balls would be flying out of both ears before he finished saying the word 'Hydroxychloroquine'.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.2    3 months ago

I would pay good money to see that

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.4  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.2    3 months ago
his balls would be flying out of both ears

Would he miss them though? With that belly he probably hasn't seen them for years.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @3.1.4    3 months ago
Would he miss them though? With that belly he probably hasn't seen them for years.

Ha!!!!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.6  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    3 months ago
I would pay good money to see that

You would be the one doing the kicking.  People would pay you!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.7  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.6    3 months ago

Ever since I broke my ankle I have a little hitch in my giddy-up so I can't kick as high as I used to...but it would fun to try!

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1.8  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.2    3 months ago

I doubt if he could say, hydroxychloroquine, since is vocabulary consists of only monosyllable words. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5  Paula Bartholomew    3 months ago

Let me get this straight.  The reporter is there to cover a reopening and the protesters who want businesses reopened get in the reporter's face?  Am I missing something here?  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    3 months ago

I guess they were bored

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    3 months ago

Actually this protest in Commack was supposed to be a slap in the face of the people of Commack. These protesters are from another town Setauket, in Suffolk County. Suffolk County is a stronghold of Trump's, but Commack is an outlier. They voted Democrat. So they chose one of the few towns there to protest as a slap in the face to the residents of Commack. The actual report was beyond fair. I will try to post it here.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2    3 months ago
I'll probably never forget what happened today.
I was insulted. I was berated. I was practically chased by people who refused to wear masks in the middle of a pandemic.
All the while, I was there to tell THEIR story. Here's the finished product. pic.twitter.com/HV2Hrcs7gi
— Kevin Vesey (@KevinVesey) May 14, 2020
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2.1    3 months ago

Thanks for posting that. I hope the naysayers understand this report and see that it is fair

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6  Paula Bartholomew    3 months ago

Let me get this straight.  The reporter is there to cover a reopening and the protesters who want businesses reopened get in the reporter's face?  Am I missing something here?  

T - Truly

R - Repulsive

U - Uneducated

M - Moronic

P - Pissants

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    3 months ago

that is awesome!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1    3 months ago

Can you delete my comment #5?  I didn't realize I was repeating myself in #6.

 
 
 
Ender
6.1.2  Ender  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.1    3 months ago

Sometimes things need to be said twice. jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.1    3 months ago

But # 6 is different than #5...you spelled out T R U M P

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.3    3 months ago

jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
katrix
6.2  katrix  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    3 months ago

Some of these assholes are deliberately coughing in the faces of people wearing masks. So many Trump supporters aren't even human.

 
 
 
Ender
6.2.1  Ender  replied to  katrix @6.2    3 months ago

Shows me that they see donald being nasty and think, well I can be too.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  katrix @6.2    3 months ago

They are inbred morons.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 months ago

PROTEST 

pro·test  (prə-tĕst′, prō-, prō′tĕst′)
v. pro·test·ed, pro·test·ing, pro·tests 
v.tr.

1. 

a. To express a strong objection to (something): protest a job assignment.

b. To participate in a public demonstration in opposition to (something): Thousands protested the election fraud. See Synonyms at object. Source

BLITHERING IDIOT(S)

noun [ C ]   old-fashioned informal 

us  /ˌblɪð.ɚ.ɪŋ ˈɪd.i.ət/ uk  /ˌblɪð.ər.ɪŋ ˈɪd.i.ət/

  
an extremely stupid person; Stupid and silly people.

Thesaurus: synonyms and related words 

airhead 
berk 
birdbrain 
blockhead 
dummy 
dunce 
dunderhead 
eejit 
fathead 
mutt 
need 
need your head examined idiom 
nincompoop 
ninny 
tosser 
troglodyte 
turkey 
twerp 
twirp Source

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7    3 months ago

they forgot my personal favorite...knucklehead

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.1.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1    3 months ago

I can't believe I picked a source that omitted both knucklehead and huckleberry!  I didn't even notice their absence.  I must be slipping.  Is it too early for a drink?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.1    3 months ago

Absolutely not! I can't believe you haven't started already!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.1    3 months ago

It's 5:00 somewhere.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1    3 months ago

My personal fav is Hassa which is Yiddish for a pig that does not fly straight.

 
 
 
Kavika
7.2  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7    3 months ago

My personal favorite, Moosh Koosh. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.2.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @7.2    3 months ago

Is that Obijwe (sp?) for mush head?

 
 
 
Kavika
7.2.2  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @7.2.1    3 months ago

Nope, it's Ojibwe for ''fricking dumbass''.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.2.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @7.2.2    3 months ago

I like that.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.2.4  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @7.2.2    3 months ago
Nope, it's Ojibwe for ''fricking dumbass''.

Ha!

 
 
 
bbl-1
8  bbl-1    3 months ago

Ahh.  Just another cadre of MAGA GOOPERS feeling their 'mountain oysters.'

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  bbl-1 @8    3 months ago

MAGA - Make America Germy Again

 
 
 
user image
9      3 months ago

Ummm i dont see the big deal. Nobody even raised their voice to the guy. News and media do nothing but insult trump and his supporters so why would they assume he is going to be on their side? Looks  like another person trying to poke the maga crowd is crying like a baby by the response, again. What happened to the never trumpers, "did your balls drop off?" 😅

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  @9    3 months ago

Nobody raised their voice but the middle finger speaks volumes

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  @9    3 months ago
Ummm i dont see the big deal. Nobody even raised their voice to the guy.

First of all, some guy kept trying to get into his personal space. And I am sorry, I don't care what the tone of a person is, if they are cursing at me, they are being offensive.

News and media do nothing but insult trump and his supporters so why would they assume he is going to be on their side?

Even in his reporting of this, he never mentioned Trump. And btw, this is a small local news network. 

 
 
 
user image
9.2.1    replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.2    3 months ago

Hmmm. I guess that's how you saw it. Maybe the guy wanted to be interviewed and was just approaching the camera. Besides, the reporter had a mask on, so what was he worried about? He should be safe right? I mean that's why he was out there

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.2.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  @9.2.1    3 months ago

The mask is not to protect YOU from the virus while you're wearing it. It protects people AROUND the mask wearer from getting the virus.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  @9.2.1    3 months ago
Maybe the guy wanted to be interviewed and was just approaching the camera.

You're joking right? The man is telling him to stay away from him and he keeps approaching.

Besides, the reporter had a mask on, so what was he worried about? He should be safe right?

It only works if both parties are wearing masks. It is to prevent the droplets that we produce from talking from getting into the air, which spreads the virus. That is why you still have to social distance even with the masks on. The small amount of the virus that makes it through the masks still get out.

 
 
 
user image
9.2.4    replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.2.3    3 months ago

What's the point of being a reporter, if you arent going to interview people? You can't expect people not to approach you when you are at their protest. He isn't much of a reporter if he is going to wet himself every time he is confronted. That's not how the big stories are made

And the protesters have an extremely valid point. Why is his job allowed? He walks around with a camera man spreading bacteria, but the protesters who want to do their job are the problem? 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  @9.2.4    3 months ago

First of all, I have done live reporting. The links are here:  https://www.youtube.com/user/newstalkers

I was never approached by anyone like that and OWS was supposed to be a nasty protests (btw it wasn't).

Second, people don't get in your face normally. They don't keep getting in your personal space especially when you keep backing away. The reporter didn't wet himself. The guy was menacing. And the big stories are not made in a small local protest. 

Why is his job allowed? He walks around with a camera man spreading bacteria, but the protesters who want to do their job are the problem? 

First of all, he is not spreading bacteria. This is a virus. Second, we are allowed to walk around with masks on, which is something a lot of these people are not doing, so yes then the protesters become the problem.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
9.2.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.2.5    3 months ago

was supposed to be a nasty protests (btw it wasn't).

Stabbing cops and planning terrorist acts like destroying  bridges doesn't count as "nasty" but this does?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.2.7  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2.6    3 months ago

Who said that stabbing cops, planning terrorists attacks and destroying bridges is not nasty? I highly doubt anyone here would condone those activities. I hope those people went to prison

 
 
 
MAGA
9.3  MAGA  replied to  @9    3 months ago

Poor msm and the left is upset people dare to speak re opening truth to power

 
 
 
user image
10      3 months ago

The left is always sympathetic of reporters at their rallys.

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/why-a-journalist-was-attacked-by-antifa-in-portland-oregon

Oops 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  @10    3 months ago

We're not talking about portland, oregon or antifa. Please stick to the topic

 
 
 
user image
10.1.1    replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1    3 months ago

you [were warned]

 
 
 
user image
10.1.2    replied to  @10.1.1    3 months ago

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Freewill
10.1.3  Freewill  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1    3 months ago
We're not talking about portland, oregon or antifa. Please stick to the topic.

Fair enough.  So what was your primary purpose for posting this article? 

Your opening remark was, "No comment. The video speaks for itself". 

So what if it speaks differently to different people?  For example, I watched it and my immediate reaction was yeah, some of those people are real jerks, but at least they weren't punching the reporter out or throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails through windows.  So is my reaction to how the video speaks to me off topic?  Just asking...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.4  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Freewill @10.1.3    3 months ago

No, your reaction is not off-topic. You at least are discussing the seed. I know you, you are actually willing to discuss the topic and not just throw snide comments in to try and make a dull point.

I agree that antifa are jerks, but I don't want to discuss them. We're talking about conservative protestors who apparently weren't content to protest in their own town. They felt the need to go to a town that leans heavily against trmp. Why did they do that? Doesn't it sound like they have their own agenda? Did they go there hoping to pick a fight with some anti-trmpers?

If someone wants to seed an article discussing antifa and their assholishness, I think they should. Doesn't mean that I will participate in it

 
 
 
MAGA
10.1.5  MAGA  replied to  @10.1.1    3 months ago

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MAGA
10.1.6  MAGA  replied to  @10.1.2    3 months ago

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MAGA
10.1.7  MAGA  replied to  Freewill @10.1.3    3 months ago

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Freewill
10.1.8  Freewill  replied to  MAGA @10.1.7    3 months ago

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Freewill
10.1.9  Freewill  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.4    3 months ago
They felt the need to go to a town that leans heavily against trmp. Why did they do that? Doesn't it sound like they have their own agenda? Did they go there hoping to pick a fight with some anti-trmpers?

Those are all good questions.  I believe Perrie lives in the area, so she will certainly know better than we do.  But I do know that there was another rally held in the same spot on May 1, and no such media attention was afforded that event and no push back against that rally was made by local residents then.  See article HERE

In this article they do discuss the location of the event and explain that people from all over the County were gathering there, including those from Commack, and that passers by (presumably from Commack) were honking and showing signs of support.  That is also heard in the video of the May 15 event.  

Macy’s parking lot at the intersection of Veterans Memorial Highway and Jericho Turnpike rallying for New York to open up its economy. 
She said the Macy’s parking lot turned out to be an ideal place for everyone to park and protest as the lot was empty, unlike the Target parking lot in the next shopping center which was full. “It’s unfair that the Target salespeople are considered essential, while the Macy’s people are nonessential,” she said. “One group gets a salary to support their families, and the other group is impoverished.”

This does appear to be a high traffic area, somewhat centrally located in Suffolk County and on Long Island, and as indicated in front of an empty Macy's that many feel was part of the problem they had with the unfair criteria for closures of certain businesses.  So it is possible, I suppose, that there were good reasons for the selection of the site other than purely intentional and politically motivated aggravation of the locals.

Certainly the May 15 rally had the idiots getting in the reporter's face and that is understandably a reason for local residents to speak out against that behavior that went viral in the media.  Nobody wants the world thinking poorly of their own community because of a few jackasses.

After the May 15 rally, the organizer of the event sent the following apology to Mr. Vesey :

Kevin, The Setauket Patriots group, would like to apologize on how you were treated, as you know when our group fist arrived by caravan, you had interviewed Us along with the 4th pct police inspector going over all the resources the police dept made available to us including extra masks for those who needed one for the Event. This wasn't a Trump event but an Open up NY Rally and we invited all Long Islanders to attend. We can tell you that the few who decided to Harass you and try to prevent you from doing your job are not members or affialiated with the Setauket patriots group in any way, shape or form. We were looking foward to you giving us fair coverage with what you documented when we first arrived. But as with all mass rally events you will always get a few idiots to disrupt an otherwise peaceful, pleasent demonstration and they should have been removed by Police.

Despite the numerous misspellings, it does indicate that there was no intention of the group to create a negative scene and that people from all over Long Island were invited.  Even Mr. Vesey admitted that the majority of the crowd was peaceful on May 15.

 
 
 
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