Watch protesters harass local reporter at reopening rally
By: CNN
News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask.
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News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask. Source: CNN Business
Watch protesters harass local reporter at reopening rally
News 12 Long Island reporter Kevin Vesey was covering a reopening when protesters harassed and insulted him, and some invaded his personal space while refusing to wear a mask. Source: CNN Business
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No comment. The video speaks for itself.
One can only wonder what the moron count was at that rally. Remember the Daily Show videos that show how stupid the people at Trump rallies are?
I counted at least 3
With a whole 98 IQ shared between them...
Or as my mother used to say...."One brain cell between them and it's on life support"
It is ONLY going to get worse, and more violent. Trump is goading his supporters to violent acts. He is desperate to stay in office for fear that he will die in JAIL, where he belongs.
Will you die for this CROOK?
No, I wouldn't die for him, but I would die for my country and my family.
Reporter walks into a crown of people and points a camera at them. Then he takes it personally when they engage him?
I guess it never occurs to the media to consider the possibility that they may have done something to actually incur the wrath of people out in the world. These people are just crazy, right?
Taco's he's there to report. Does that deserve the level of anger he got? One guy should have been charged with menacing. He was actually being aggressive.
In all fairness, do you think it was smart of him to be right there on the sidewalk walking among them? Seriously did he think that he might not be received well knowing how people who want to open feel about the media? I just think he could have used better judgement than joining them on the sidewalk. But possibly, he wanted confrontation to fit the narrative. JMHO
Jim other than being there to report, what did he do that was wrong? Does he not have the right to be there? If they have freedom of speech, why doesn't he? And in actuality, he did do a fair report which I included down below.
I'm sorry, but there were some first class asses there, and it isn't even their town.
If you watch the video and the twitter link that Perri shared below you will see that he was there to report on re-opening. The few protestors that got in his face were screaming about fake news and menacing him
I am quite surprised they weren't in Albany at the Statehouse like most protesters in other states are doing but I guess that would have taken a lot longer to travel there. And yes, they were asses. But they knew better than to physically confront him in front of a camera. I stand with the "he should have known" part. Although a Draconian example, wonder if one would walk into enemy camp to interview the "enemy" on why they were so pissed off and fighting the war. Again, JMHO
I understand that.
But he is not the enemy. He is a local news reporter from Long Island. Everyone here knows News 12, and they are not political. They are just a local news station for Long Island. And he actually did turn out a fair news report, which I have included here.
Also, these protesters are from another town. It is they who violated another town. If they wanted to protest, they could have stayed in their town, but they picked Commack because that is a democratic town, in a mostly republican Suffolk county. I am not saying that they didn't have the right, but that reporter had the same right to be there to cover this.
Agreed. Not disputing his right to be there at all. Just saying if he didn't expect some form of push back he wasn't thinking but, again, I think he knew it
Why bother protesting without media coverage? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a public protest?
I want to see you say something similar when a reporter does a story about lefty protestors
Jim,
Loads of reporters go to protests and are do not receive menacing. I mean there was an anger there that was just not appropriate, and had the tables been turned, and those were liberals acting that way, would you give them a pass?
Okay. Not a problem. The same will/would be true. Once he mingled in the crowd and the shit hit the fan, possibly he should have gone across the street for a pan shot report.like he did toward the end. He stayed among them. Perhaps you can say why? In watching the report, I noticed the camera person had no trouble taking his shots of the crowd even standing only feet away.
And BTW, I am not saying i condone those asshats doing that. I'm saying it should have been expected.
That's it, I'm out. Enjoy!!
What is that supposed to mean? He gets to point cameras at people, edit footage how he likes, provide commentary on the actions of people, and then broadcast it all over the world. And no one gets to tell him what they think of his product? Like Hell!
You mean as in threatening someone's life? Like with a weapon? That's usually what menacing is. I didn't see that. It didn't happen.
Aggressive how? By walking toward him? By giving him the finger? Some people consider having a camera shoved at them as aggressive. Reporters are aggressive all the time. Every day they approach people who don't want to talk to them. They always respond with "the people have a right to know." That excuses everything in their eyes.
First of all, I have done live reporting. I did it from "Occupy Wall Street" and no one attacked me there. Second, I included the full report which showed that he was fair to them. The only commentary there was, was what was happening to him. One man gave an interview and was very civil. But I am sorry, when you have to keep moving because some guy is keeps getting in your face, that guy has the problem, not the reporter.
No, I mean like in the legal sense of "Menacing"
Menacing Law and Legal Definition . Menacing is a crime governed by state laws, which vary by state, but typically involves displaying a weapon or a course of conduct that intentionally places another person in reasonable fear of physical injury or death.
Specifically:
He or she repeatedly follows a person or engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts over a period of time intentionally placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death
That is exactly what that guy did. The reporter kept backing away and he kept engaging him no matter how far back he went.
Clearly the camera is right next to the reporter and not in the face of this guy. How was this cameraman or reporter aggressive? I'm sorry, I don't see it. Finally, everyone knows this guy, since everyone here watches news 12. He is familiar to all of us. This is a local news station, and the whole purpose of this protest was to make the residents uncomfortable and to be on the news. There is no statehouse there. There are no government buildings.
Seems some of the protesters knew exactly who he was; and didn't feel the same way.
Nice double talk. Not denying their right to protest there; but at the same time saying they should have protested in their own town? They didn't "violate" anything. They were protesting on public property. It is the "new norm", to use all of the adds I have heard recently, for protesters to come in from various areas.It happens at every protest no matter where it is held.
The reporter did "his job" and got exactly the reaction he was looking for. I loved his "personal space" garbage. You walk into a crowd of protesters that are moving about, and you know are going to be angry at your presence; but expect your 6 feet of personal space to be honored? If you watch the video the protesters mostly not wearing masks, are all well within 6 feet of each other. The reporter was stupid enough to believe they wouldn't treat him the same.
Hopefully his next "factual report" will be an Antifa protest. Then he will see what having his "personal space" violated is really all about.
Seems like the protesters don't know how to behave in a civil manner either.
How is that double talk? I am discussing the reason they were there in the first place. Nowhere did I say that they should be protesting in their town, did I? And I said they had the right to protest there, too. There is just no real reason for them to be there other than to disturb the residents of that town.
OK being chased down the sidewalk is actually menacing. Look it up.
He only had a complaint about the one guy who was getting in his face. There is a difference.
Antifa is a menace. But two wrongs don't make a right.
Trump has brainwashed his followers to hate the MSM. Only Fox is allowed in the new Trump Reich. Pretty sure this scares the shit out of me.
I saw this on Fox News and the protesters had reasons for being upset and calling that station out as fake news. David Marcus was right today in the New York Post.
OAN, Newsmax TV, Breitbart News, WND, Town Hall radio, CNS, will always be allowed, not just Fox News.
What are you talking about? They go to another town to make trouble and the local small news station covers it? Give me a break. They were pissed before the news got there. This was the second time of them annoying another town with their protest. Maybe the residents of Commack and protest on their streets about not wanting unwanted protests in their town.
What trouble did they make? Please tell us. Did they block traffic? Did the police have to arrest any of them? Did they do anything illegal- except violate the reporter's "personal space" that was stupid enough to get within 6 feet of them to begin with?
They are protesters. Of course they were pissed off. Otherwise they wouldn't be protesting. Who the hell ever heard of a cheerful protest? Think the media would give a cheerful protest two seconds of coverage?
So annoying is now against the law? Or maybe you were annoyed? Some of the cars honked at the protesters in agreement. Think they were annoyed by the protest?
Go right ahead- just make sure you (plural) don't violate any laws. It is your right to do so.
You want an example of a protest that breaks laws?
So protesters can take up public space and how dare anyone come near them...
That you are going to actually defend these people...
Oh yeah, it is someone else at fault and not them for what they say and do...
Yes, they can, as long as they aren't blocking traffic, which they clearly weren't.
That's not what I saw. I saw them criticizing the reporter for the coverage they have been seeing on his network. But even if they did complain about someone coming near them, it would be pretty hypocritical of the reporter to complain - as he did - that people were invading his "personal space." See?:
So it's ok for him to walk into a group of them with his camera, but they can't invade his personal space? What a hypocrite! What a baby!
What's to defend? They are expressing themselves legally. At least they aren't wearing masks and physically attacking people. Guess who does that?
So yes, you are going to defend people being assholes.
How are they assholes? They told this guy they didn't like the coverage on his network. I guess as long as the media preaches the message you like, they are above criticism, eh?
Did you watch the video?
He is a local reporter.
So? I'm just describing what people were saying to him. Criticism and even anger are not threats.
Trump has conditioned his far right wing supporters to hate the press that actually gave him a pass in 2016.
About time for wide spread honest journalism that nails Trump into his political coffin.
He was asking people to maintain their distance. He has a right to do that. He at least was wearing a mask trying to protect others around him. These people are not wearing masks and practically in his face. He is more at risk than they are to COVID
He does? How much distance does he have a right to? Watch the video. He walks right up to people who are minding their own business and points a camera right at them. When he puts himself mere inches from people, that's just good journalism, but when someone approaches him to within just a few feet, he's suddenly being attacked or something. What bullshit!
And yet, like a moron, he just walked into the middle of them. That's his own fault. He went to them, not the other way around. If he had shot his video from a distance, he wouldn't have had that problem.
They aren't obligated to wear masks just because some spineless reporter might walk into the midst of them all.
Although, if you watch the video, you will see there are a lot of people wearing masks.
As much as he feels he needs to protect himself.
Haha Really? So people protesting on a public street, yelling, waving signs, using megaphones or whatever is minding their own business?
Hahaha
Well then the people on the sidewalk have a right to that, too. Don't they? If they find him threatening, why doesn't he leave?
Yes. They didn't go about harassing people. They just expressed themselves where people could see them. This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people. when he could have just pointed a camera at them from across the street.
Then he goes crying to the internet when they say "mean things" to him. WAAAA!
Yes. Why don't you tell us whose business they were minding, then, if you disagree? Or maybe you think laughing is a persuasive argument.
I am just laughing at your ridiculous defence of these morons.
Yes, you do seem to have nothing to offer beyond laughing and name-calling.
Uh huh. Says the always trumper.
Not only is that not true, but you still offer only name-calling and no substance. And apparently you aren't aware that this story has nothing to do with Trump.
Now we go to name calling. What page of the handbook is that in?
Tacos he was there to report. The whole purpose of that protest was to be noticed.
You know I didn't name call anyone. The protesters sure did.
Have you still not watched the video?
It is about a group of PRO trump supporters....
So calling someone pro trump is name calling?
They were just minding their own business doncha know...
In a town that didn't invite them. They could have protested in their town but they didn't.
So freedom of speech goes only one way? I thought that freedom of the press was also guaranteed in the Constitution.
And then said what? Make up his own descriptor which you would then call biased? It is the job of reporters to get the actual words from these people's mouths.
That is his job. He didn't think that people would behave like assholes and curse in front of their kids, and yell at him shame on you, when he had said and done nothing other than being there. Only one man had the decency to talk to him and he let him have his say, without the reporter making any commentary of his own.
Tell me about it.
Perhaps there are just some things that are embarrassing. You know, like the MAGA hat for $30 from China?
So what? People travel all the time to protest in large groups.
Where did I say anything about limiting someone's speech? Oh wait . . . I didn't.
Well then he's going to have to put up with listening to people say things that maybe he doesn't want to hear. That's just too bad, isn't it? Or do the people on the street owe him a hug and nothing but praise?
I didn't say he couldn't do his job. In fact, I think he's not doing his job.
I said he shouldn't whine when people say things he doesn't like. That's a judgment about what I think good journalism is, not what his rights are.
If he's there to cover the protest, then he should cover the protest. Instead, he made the story about him and the fact that some people there didn't like him. Is that really newsworthy? I don't think so. I don't think it's his job to report on the fact that some few people at a protest don't like him.
And it was a few people. Look at the video. Most of the people are ignoring him.
The story is supposed to be the protest and what the people are trying to say about the issue.
They're assholes because they don't like a reporter or a media outlet? And whether or not they curse in front of their kids is neither his business nor yours.
How do you know that? Maybe he has a history with that community. Maybe they have good reason to be angry at him.
Only one? How do you know? You think his video shows everything that happened that day?
And why is it the "decent" thing to talk to him? What if you don't want to talk to the press? Does that make you indecent? Nobody owes him an interview.
I'm going to take the time to explain this to you. This group is from Setauket and instead of protesting there, they took it to a neighboring town, where no one is complaining. There are no government buildings there. There is no reason for them to be there.
Oh wait you did. You said:
The word injected means that he had no business being. He had the same right to be there, if not more, since his job is to cover stories for News 12/ Cablevision.
I didn't think he whined. I would think that he wouldn't have to be chased down a sidewalk by an adult bully.
Yes, and usually as with my interviews at OWS, if people don't want to be interviewed they walk away, instead of cursing you out, or chasing you down.
That is not their community. I keep saying that. They came to someone else's community to protest. And everyone knows this guy. He's a staple here on Long Island.
Well, had you been watching the video, he tied to talk to other people.
You know what I meant. I meant that once person talked to him person to person, like normal people do, instead of screaming obscenities in front of children mind you.
You know, you could have a little respect for the fact that you posted a video and the sole print explanation for what is happening in that video is this:
So you claim, but why then would they all go if there is literally "no reason?" Did you contact them and then they told you it was random? I'm sorry, but the idea that there was literally no reason for all those people to go there doesn't make a lot of sense. I find it far more probable that they had a reason and you just don't know what it is.
You said: This reporter is the one who injected himself into the business of other people.
That's right. I described his action. I never said he had no right to do it. That's a pretty important difference.
No it doesn't. It doesn't mean that at all. What it means is that he took the initiative to interact with people on his own and therefore does not have reasonable grounds to complain when those people don't respond with the kind of words he wants to hear. It's not like they physically attacked him. That I would obviously condemn, but that didn't happen here.
He could have tried standing his ground. Maybe then there wouldn't have been a chase. Maybe there could have just been a conversation.
Yep, it's not a nice world. Sometimes people on Newstalkers disagree with me. Instead of ignoring me or just engaging in a conversation, they start right in telling me what a bad person I am. People aren't always nice.
Yes, I'm sure we're all very concerned for the children.
Now it's my opportunity to explain something to you. Since you only posted this one-sided video, I did a little internet research on the incident and found some roots to this story. As I suspected, there is some history between the group and this reporter - at least there is from their point of view.
From what I see, they had another protest on May 1 reported on by this same reporter. They felt his report was unfair to them, so they expressed their anger to his face.
One other point.
First, you don't know that "no one" is complaining in that town, but there is more to reopening than just your own town.
Your level of outrage at their traveling makes it sound like they came from another state or something and their lives couldn't possibly have any connection to this other town. But these two towns are only about 15 miles apart. You don't think maybe some of these people live or do business in both towns?
People don't live their lives in the square mile or so around their house. I work 20 miles from my house. A lot of people do. True reopening for most people means opening up the county or even the state. So if you want to spread that message around, you might take it on the road. There's nothing unusual about that.
Actually probably not. He already had it and tested positive for it, and just recently emerged from quarantine. At least according to his twitter feed.
That is certainly possible. Here is that report.
Not sure what they might have been angry about other than the several descriptions of a handful of people who said stupid things, perhaps as though they were representative of the rest of the crowd?
In any case, the protestors could have been more civil about it and explained their concerns in a rational reasonable manner, since they had a dude right there who was willing to air it on at least the local news. When folks assume they will be treated badly, and make a big scene about it, then they probably will be. That goes for protesters and reporters alike.
I also saw a followup with the organizer of the protest and he did apologize for the handful of folks who acted like asses, and pointed out that they were not representative of the rest of the crowd.
At least these particular asses didn’t actually get violent with folks and throw rocks and Molotov cocktails through windows simply because someone with whom they disagreed was invited to town to speak. A little perspective here is warranted I think.
No one else got that.
Right over their heads....
Imo a little perspective would not be thinking me or Trout or any of us are ok with left wing groups causing violence or being nasty. Not saying you in particular yet none of us ever endorsed such things and more than a few of us are on record condemning.
I may stick up for a cause yet I will not succumb to a certain level.
Not to say that I can't be an asshole. Sometimes it is fun.
Yet here we have a narrative trying to be pushed only for the purpose of shifting blame and to take the focus off of what the group represents because their actions cannot be defended any other way.
Hell we already had denial of what the group is.
Sad really.
That is the purpose of every protest.
Excellent! Because I never said or thought that you or Trout would be OK with left wing violence or nastiness. I was just pointing out that we have seen worse treatment of reporters and of property at other protests. (i.e. lets put into perspective what these clowns did vs. what other clowns have done, that is all, politics aside).
Just so I am clear, you don't want others assuming that you and TG are OK with what you call left wing violence or nastiness, but yet you can go ahead and insist that others here are "shifting blame" and trying to take focus off what this group represents, or are trying to defend what a few of them did in some way? Is that a fair approach in your mind?
So do you think that I and others here are ok with right wing groups causing violence or being nasty? I for one have already said that I think the people in the video were being asses and that they should have approached the reporter rationally and with civility. In no way do I wish to take the focus off them or defend what they have done. I'm just asking, honestly, haven't we seen worse? Is there some reason why this should be bigger news than violence or nastiness at other protests?
He could have covered it from across the street and interviewed protesters who wanted to go over there and speak their minds to him.
Seems that according to "stand your ground" laws the news guy could have legally shot the insane MAGA fool/tool.
Thank God you didn't tell the guy that one.
He might have believed you knew what you were talking about and done it.
Last I checked, New York is NOT a "stand your ground law" state.
A/noon..."Stand your ground law"??? You can shoot someone in the States for that?? Hell that would be classed as murder here and you will be doing a lot of jail time....
Stand-your-ground Law
A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) establishes a right by which a person may defend one's self or others (right of self-defense) against threats or perceived threats, even to the point of applying lethal force, regardless of whether safely retreating from the situation might have been possible. Such a law typically states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place where they have a lawful right to be (though this varies from state to state) and that they may use any level of force if they reasonably believe the threat rises to the level of being an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm and/or death.
Stand-your-ground law - Wikipedia
Thanks Texan...If you move from State to State sure would have to know the law there...
I would think it necessary to know the laws regarding guns and use of force no matter what state you live in.
If you notice, I did not respond to you. My comment was directed at who I responded to.
No, I don't think you would at all. There are some I do wonder about...
I do think some are trying to basically say, so what. It is almost like it is becoming a norm or more or less accepted as a norm.
I also think the term 'protest' is being loosely used as I don't see what these people doing as a protest per say, more like a small rally.
Yes we have seen worse yet I don't think it really got that much coverage at all. We saw it here and talked about it. I don't watch cable news so couldn't tell you if they reported on it at all. Definitely not on my local news and didn't see any mention on my Apple news feeds.
Unfortunately Ender, I think it has become the norm. A group stages a rally or protest, a few people there take things too far (some terribly violent), the media sensationalizes it to get ratings, the political pundits try to one up their enemies by claiming the bad apples are typical of the larger group, "Look how awful and violent they ALL are, just like the rest of their party/ideology". Lather, rinse and repeat.
Meanwhile, the rest of the civilized world wonders what the fuck is wrong with us. Why can't they get along? And why do they always have to over-politicize everything instead of sticking to the facts and acknowledging that these few idiots in these situations do not represent the rest of the group, or the rest of the crowd that was there?
At one point in time the political punditry component of these stories was confined to the spin mills and political blog venues like this, but now it has gone mainstream and it takes top billing. We are saturated by it almost every day. It truly has become the norm. Not that I want to accept that, it is what it has become. I'd like to see it change, but it will take a lot more than just a few of us to change it now.
Actually I do happen to know how they residents there feel. One of my closest friends lives there, and they are sick of this group coming to their town to protest.
And if you think I am making this up, why not read the Commack Patch comment section:
And I love how all you people vote up this comment. Would you like it if someone came to your town and told you how to live?
On Long Island we live in small towns with our own shopping areas. That is true of Commack as well as Setauket were these people are from.
If you want to take it on the road, show up at the county building, not some strip in someone else's town. It goes to show what bullies and how inconsiderate they are.
No reporter does that. I didn't do it at OWS. People just behaved civilized (unlike the reports that were being circulated).
Um ok. Have I ever accused you of a thing like that? I don't think so.
Oh come on. That's happens all over the country. You really need to get past this idea that the people of a town have some right (legal or moral) to exclude people from conducting peaceful demonstrations in their town.
Did you cheer on the crowd when they roughed up Andy Ngo in Portland
or join the chorus of conservatives here on NT that said he had a right to cover the protests?
Did this crybaby get roughed up? No. Not remotely the same thing.
Your words.....yes, the same thing.
How is it the same? Andy Ngo was punched, kicked, and had milk shakes thrown at him. Did any of that happen to this CNN reporter? No!
Different results from the same moronic actions?
Defend one, berate the other? That seems to be inconsistent.
Which action was moronic? What result are you talking about?
I am critical of the reporter's whining about his treatment because I find it to be an extreme over reaction and misrepresentation of the truth. I don't really care about his actions as a reporter at the time, though I find them typical. I have an opinion and I can explain that opinion with the facts in front of us.
You want to call these people morons because . . . well that's just not clear.
Read your own comment to TG at 2.3.1
You called the reporter a moron, for doing his job for CNN.
It wasn't even CNN. It was News 12 Long Island. A local cable news station that just reports about things going on around the island that are newsworthy.
And don't forget spineless.
Umm guys, the reporter was from Long Island News 12, a local cable station.
It's just that the story is so outrageous that it has been picked up by many news outlets including European ones.
In other words, it is wise to observe the MAGA folk from a distance as one would do with observing a mother bear and her cubs?
Exactly!
MAGA folk from a distance
I just self deleted a sniper reference.
Where I bought my Dodge the dealership messed up my paint .. long story! I was involved with an individual that took idiot and "attempted' intimidation to the next level of ignorance - I had an appointment to speak with the 'Head master' of the dealership, and the big wig of the service department about said damage .. he tagged along..
Both men met me out front of the showroom. All is good til numb nutz jumps out of my truck and starts recording these guys .. meeting was instantly over.. dealership dudes got more than a wee bit aggressive, demanding the filming cease - they did not want to be on camera! Imagine that huh?
Everyone has rights .. the press has rights .. so does the citizen that does not desire to be on camera! When said individual not desiring to be filmed and the reporter seeking a story collide, it is the one filming that is, for the most part, controlling the narrative - the story can become a bigger deal .. Do not agree with / nor condone the action of the protester .. but I think the press needs to take a step back .. the 'press' can film an event and put an individuals face out there .. Live PD (as an example) has to have a signed release to expose an individuals face - if they do not have that - faces are blurred!
Of course I am speculating that the reporter had an agenda!
I think it is more along the lines of a public event. Just like they do not have to blur every face that would get caught on camera at a football game or showing people at any public engagement.
From what I gather, the reporter is a local reporter for a local station in Long Island.
I would think a local reporter would report on what is going on in the neighborhood.
On my local news they show if there is any type of protest and tell us where and when and get shots of the people.
It is nothing new yet some are acting like he busted up in there and started demanding things or berating them just to get a response. Acting like it is some conspiracy he concocted just to try to make the trump supporters look bad.
First of all Colour, I am so sorry that happened to you. No customer should have to go through that. That was beyond the pale and they had no right to film you.
I have covered live demonstrations. The point of demonstrating is to bring your grievances out to the public. I was at OWS. What I found as a reporter, that I could walk in with a camera and mic and just talk to people and ask them if they wanted to talk to me. Only one man was really awful but the rest wanted to get their POV out. In NY, if you are on public property (they were) the press is allowed to cover the event (he did). News 12 is our local cable station by our local cable provider. This was hardly agenda-driven, other than most days, it's pretty boring here.
btw.. if anyone is interested in seeing me at Occupy Wall Street, you can see the various interviews go to youtube
First time I ever saw that baby girl. Those were awesome interviews.
I have seen a couple of them. Great job. Great bubbly personality too.
Perrie is a JIP so the bubbly personality, lazar focus is a natural reaction for her.
I have those videos bookmarked. not because of OWS, but to hear the thick NYC accents. I love hearing them. it reminds me of some of my childhood friends that relocated from NYC to colorado in the mid 60's. sorry for the derail.
JIP = jewish indian princess?
You got it...
Thanks good sister. Mike L got me to do them on a bet about what was really going on down there. I was very nervous. I hope it didn't show.
Thanks Ender! I can be bubbly.
And I smell pretty good after a shower, too!
I have a New York accent? Noooo... I have a Lawnguyland accent.
The people I interviewed had a New York accent.
Shooosh.... people don't know.
... more like a mouth full of cookie dough accent... that's okay, I really like women with charming accents. too bad they make most men sound like morons. of course I have no cause to judge, a western accent is basically the hospital food version of american regional dialects. our vowels are uh, eh, oh, and e, but we usually don't have to climb over every consonant in the alphabet.
Like I said .. it was speculation that the reporter had an agenda - I doubt that he did - yet it is not unheard of to have a reporter force a response.
I find it interesting that an individuals image can be used in so many different ways without consent .. do you recall the episode that took place in DC .. the high school students splashed all over the internet / news with edited video portraying a false narrative ... The disrespecting racist Trump loving lil bastards? Their images (as minors) was released, as were their names. TA DA the media was at their house ... death threats came as well. Correct me if I am wrong .. but did they not also risk expulsion from school or may have been suspended ...
There is a big difference between asking someone if they will be interviewed on camera and just rolling up filming..
Just how I feel about the subject …. I could go on, but I have a bad habit of veering (albeit slightly .. haha) off topic : )... I will say this though ..I believe that just because I am in public does not mean I give my consent for my image to be used ..
Peace!
I still don't think that laws have caught up with technology.
At least from a public perspective.
Most of us are filmed everyday. Street cams, traffic cams, home security cams, store security cams. People filming from phones, taking pictures everywhere, not to mention tracked on phones, targeted advertising.
How can laws caught up, I got the new Samsung Note 10+ for Christmas, it is already becoming outdated? Partisanship has to some degree crushed DC's ability to function.. by the time a bill winds through the process the next new thing is available.
Very true .. there are reasons I live in the state of Montana (beyond the fact that I am 6 generation Montanan) reasons I do my best to stay informed .. pay close attention to local / state elections, not only the individual on the ballot, but the initiatives being voted on, one must read the fine print ..
We have def reached the era of big brother is watching .. yet with all the cameras out there, my imagine is not being used .. the media can use my image just for being in public .. I have a serious problem conforming .. so I have opted to be more reclusive! : ) One should not have to live in the Yaak Mountains in order to have privacy... yet alas .. it is coming to that for some of us...!
As always .. Peace!
Your not kidding. I am one of the people that will keep my phone until I either break it or it no longer functions properly. Last one I dropped one to many times. Can't see running out every year for the latest model. No way, too expensive. Especially for Apple, which I use.
Hey, I know a Hermit I could introduce you to. Haha
I wish people would pay more attention to what our so called politicians are actually doing. One thing I get tired of is party over anything. Some people will only look as far as affiliation.
As far as the backlog in DC, we need to start keeping them up with the times. I look at how many in Washington are over seventy. We really need some young blood.
Haha .. ditto! When I was in the hospital my old phone went nutz .. I kept it afloat til Christmas - finally had to surrender to the inevitable and upgrade - I liked my antique phone!
Thank you … alas I am single for a reason : ) haha and loving every minute of it .. the 'empty nest' turns out to be quite amazing as well!
Agreed .. yet I cringe at the youth that is in congress at this time....!
Flash over substance.
That is how I am seeing things .. in some ways it seems as if congress is a high school popularity contest .. giving me flash backs to Carrie!
Wow. That woman being nasty with her little kid. Disgusting horrid people.
Then I can only shake my head at the idiot saying how dare a store tell people to wear a mask. Hell just a little while back they were saying that a store owner could do whatever they wanted.
And the one idiot saying he didn't care because he has hydroxychloroquine. I guess he actually thinks he would be immune. Either he is lying or has some unethical doctor.
Proof that lemmings would jump off a cliff if donald told them to.
I think he was just messing with the reporter
True but sometimes I really wonder about some people.
Shoot... had that fool walked up on you like that, his balls would be flying out of both ears before he finished saying the word 'Hydroxychloroquine'.
I would pay good money to see that
Would he miss them though? With that belly he probably hasn't seen them for years.
Ha!!!!
You would be the one doing the kicking. People would pay you!
Ever since I broke my ankle I have a little hitch in my giddy-up so I can't kick as high as I used to...but it would fun to try!
I doubt if he could say, hydroxychloroquine, since is vocabulary consists of only monosyllable words.
Let me get this straight. The reporter is there to cover a reopening and the protesters who want businesses reopened get in the reporter's face? Am I missing something here?
I guess they were bored
Actually this protest in Commack was supposed to be a slap in the face of the people of Commack. These protesters are from another town Setauket, in Suffolk County. Suffolk County is a stronghold of Trump's, but Commack is an outlier. They voted Democrat. So they chose one of the few towns there to protest as a slap in the face to the residents of Commack. The actual report was beyond fair. I will try to post it here.
Thanks for posting that. I hope the naysayers understand this report and see that it is fair
Let me get this straight. The reporter is there to cover a reopening and the protesters who want businesses reopened get in the reporter's face? Am I missing something here?
T - Truly
R - Repulsive
U - Uneducated
M - Moronic
P - Pissants
that is awesome!
Can you delete my comment #5? I didn't realize I was repeating myself in #6.
Sometimes things need to be said twice.
But # 6 is different than #5...you spelled out T R U M P
Some of these assholes are deliberately coughing in the faces of people wearing masks. So many Trump supporters aren't even human.
Shows me that they see donald being nasty and think, well I can be too.
They are inbred morons.
PROTEST
pro·test (prə-tĕst′, prō-, prō′tĕst′)
v. pro·test·ed, pro·test·ing, pro·tests
v.tr.
1.
a. To express a strong objection to (something): protest a job assignment.
b. To participate in a public demonstration in opposition to (something): Thousands protested the election fraud. See Synonyms at object. Source
BLITHERING IDIOT(S)
noun [ C ] old-fashioned informal
us /ˌblɪð.ɚ.ɪŋ ˈɪd.i.ət/ uk /ˌblɪð.ər.ɪŋ ˈɪd.i.ət/
an extremely stupid person; Stupid and silly people.
Thesaurus: synonyms and related words
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they forgot my personal favorite...knucklehead
I can't believe I picked a source that omitted both knucklehead and huckleberry! I didn't even notice their absence. I must be slipping. Is it too early for a drink?
Absolutely not! I can't believe you haven't started already!
It's 5:00 somewhere.
My personal fav is Hassa which is Yiddish for a pig that does not fly straight.
My personal favorite, Moosh Koosh.
Is that Obijwe (sp?) for mush head?
Nope, it's Ojibwe for ''fricking dumbass''.
I like that.
Ha!
Ahh. Just another cadre of MAGA GOOPERS feeling their 'mountain oysters.'
MAGA - Make America Germy Again
Ummm i dont see the big deal. Nobody even raised their voice to the guy. News and media do nothing but insult trump and his supporters so why would they assume he is going to be on their side? Looks like another person trying to poke the maga crowd is crying like a baby by the response, again. What happened to the never trumpers, "did your balls drop off?" 😅
Nobody raised their voice but the middle finger speaks volumes
First of all, some guy kept trying to get into his personal space. And I am sorry, I don't care what the tone of a person is, if they are cursing at me, they are being offensive.
Even in his reporting of this, he never mentioned Trump. And btw, this is a small local news network.
Hmmm. I guess that's how you saw it. Maybe the guy wanted to be interviewed and was just approaching the camera. Besides, the reporter had a mask on, so what was he worried about? He should be safe right? I mean that's why he was out there
The mask is not to protect YOU from the virus while you're wearing it. It protects people AROUND the mask wearer from getting the virus.
You're joking right? The man is telling him to stay away from him and he keeps approaching.
It only works if both parties are wearing masks. It is to prevent the droplets that we produce from talking from getting into the air, which spreads the virus. That is why you still have to social distance even with the masks on. The small amount of the virus that makes it through the masks still get out.
What's the point of being a reporter, if you arent going to interview people? You can't expect people not to approach you when you are at their protest. He isn't much of a reporter if he is going to wet himself every time he is confronted. That's not how the big stories are made
And the protesters have an extremely valid point. Why is his job allowed? He walks around with a camera man spreading bacteria, but the protesters who want to do their job are the problem?
First of all, I have done live reporting. The links are here:
I was never approached by anyone like that and OWS was supposed to be a nasty protests (btw it wasn't).
Second, people don't get in your face normally. They don't keep getting in your personal space especially when you keep backing away. The reporter didn't wet himself. The guy was menacing. And the big stories are not made in a small local protest.
First of all, he is not spreading bacteria. This is a virus. Second, we are allowed to walk around with masks on, which is something a lot of these people are not doing, so yes then the protesters become the problem.
was supposed to be a nasty protests (btw it wasn't).
Stabbing cops and planning terrorist acts like destroying bridges doesn't count as "nasty" but this does?
Who said that stabbing cops, planning terrorists attacks and destroying bridges is not nasty? I highly doubt anyone here would condone those activities. I hope those people went to prison
Poor msm and the left is upset people dare to speak re opening truth to power
The left is always sympathetic of reporters at their rallys.
Oops
We're not talking about portland, oregon or antifa. Please stick to the topic
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Fair enough. So what was your primary purpose for posting this article?
Your opening remark was, "No comment. The video speaks for itself".
So what if it speaks differently to different people? For example, I watched it and my immediate reaction was yeah, some of those people are real jerks, but at least they weren't punching the reporter out or throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails through windows. So is my reaction to how the video speaks to me off topic? Just asking...
No, your reaction is not off-topic. You at least are discussing the seed. I know you, you are actually willing to discuss the topic and not just throw snide comments in to try and make a dull point.
I agree that antifa are jerks, but I don't want to discuss them. We're talking about conservative protestors who apparently weren't content to protest in their own town. They felt the need to go to a town that leans heavily against trmp. Why did they do that? Doesn't it sound like they have their own agenda? Did they go there hoping to pick a fight with some anti-trmpers?
If someone wants to seed an article discussing antifa and their assholishness, I think they should. Doesn't mean that I will participate in it
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Those are all good questions. I believe Perrie lives in the area, so she will certainly know better than we do. But I do know that there was another rally held in the same spot on May 1, and no such media attention was afforded that event and no push back against that rally was made by local residents then. See article HERE .
In this article they do discuss the location of the event and explain that people from all over the County were gathering there, including those from Commack, and that passers by (presumably from Commack) were honking and showing signs of support. That is also heard in the video of the May 15 event.
This does appear to be a high traffic area, somewhat centrally located in Suffolk County and on Long Island, and as indicated in front of an empty Macy's that many feel was part of the problem they had with the unfair criteria for closures of certain businesses. So it is possible, I suppose, that there were good reasons for the selection of the site other than purely intentional and politically motivated aggravation of the locals.
Certainly the May 15 rally had the idiots getting in the reporter's face and that is understandably a reason for local residents to speak out against that behavior that went viral in the media. Nobody wants the world thinking poorly of their own community because of a few jackasses.
After the May 15 rally, the organizer of the event sent the following apology to Mr. Vesey :
Despite the numerous misspellings, it does indicate that there was no intention of the group to create a negative scene and that people from all over Long Island were invited. Even Mr. Vesey admitted that the majority of the crowd was peaceful on May 15.
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