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Pelosi mulls adding more anti-Trump Republicans to Jan. 6 investigation

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  3 years ago  •  119 comments

By:   Heather Caygle, Olivia Beavers and Nicholas Wu (MSN)

Pelosi mulls adding more anti-Trump Republicans to Jan. 6 investigation
Rep. Adam Kinzinger, an ally of select panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, is the leading contender.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering adding another anti-Trump House Republican to the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, with Rep. Adam Kinzinger as the leading contender.

© Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaks at her weekly news conference at the Capitol building on July 22.

Pelosi suggested Thursday that she would consider appointing more Republicans to the Jan. 6 probe, less than 24 hours after she nixed two vocally pro-Trump GOP lawmakers for the select panel. The current sole GOP member of the panel, Rep. Liz Cheney, separately made clear that she would support two well-known additions to the committee: Kinzinger (R-Ill.), Cheney's partner in conservative opposition to Donald Trump, and former Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-Va.), a possible pick as Cheney's outside adviser in the investigation.

"We'll see," Pelosi told reporters when asked if she'd appoint more Republicans to serve alongside Cheney. "It's not even bipartisan; it's nonpartisan. It's about seeking the truth and that's what we owe the American people."

Kinzinger discussed his desire to join the select panel with other lawmakers before Pelosi chose Cheney earlier this month, according to a person familiar with the conversations. He declined to comment Thursday when asked about his potential addition to the select panel, which is set to hold its first hearing next week with law enforcement responders during the siege of the Capitol by supporters of the former president.

But his ally from Wyoming offered an effusive endorsement.

Kinzinger would be a "tremendous addition to the committee. I think ultimately it's up to the speaker, but I would certainly support it," Cheney told POLITICO in a brief interview.

Cheney added that Riggleman, an experienced researcher of online extremism who has already dug into the far-right elements behind the insurrection, "would be tremendous" as an outside aide to the probe.

"Denver is somebody who's got years of experience, especially in all the areas connected to cyber issues," she said. "And I think [he] just would be a tremendous addition to the work of the committee in terms of understanding, recognizing the extent to which social media platforms were used, the communications that went on in the lead up to the 6th."

When pressed whether Cheney put Riggleman's name forward to Pelosi, she demurred and reiterated only that "he'd be an excellent addition to the committee."

At least one Democratic member of the select panel indicated he would support Kinzinger's addition to its ranks, if Pelosi decides to name the Air Force veteran.

"I'm open to anyone of any political viewpoint who does not want to obstruct the work of the committee," Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) said. "I'm sure Kinzinger would not want to obstruct the work of the committee."

Beyond Kinzinger, it's unclear whether any Republican lawmakers would consider participating in the panel. Rep. Jaime Herrera Butler (R-Wash.), who joined Cheney and Kinzinger in voting to impeach Trump in February told reporters that she would not participate.

"Unless this is made up of people who are not members of Congress, the American people cannot trust the results," she said.

The effort to potentially beef up Republican representation on the select panel comes after House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy pulled all five of his choices on Wednesday following Pelosi's veto of the two most controversial names on his list, Reps. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio).

McCarthy vowed that Republicans would undertake their own investigation of the events on Jan. 6 in response.

But Pelosi dismissed McCarthy's protests on Thursday, saying she made the right decision by blocking Banks and Jordan because of their "antics" in the months following the deadly insurrection.

"I'm not talking about him," Pelosi said of McCarthy. "Let's not waste each other's time."

Pelosi said her decision to block those two, while allowing McCarthy's three other selections, to serve on the panel, had nothing to do with their votes to challenge certification of Trump's loss on Jan. 6. In fact, Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) also voted against certification and was not vetoed by Pelosi.

"The other two made statements and took actions that just would have been ridiculous to put them on a committee seeking the truth," Pelosi told reporters.

Sarah Ferris contributed.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    3 years ago

And the hits just keep on coming. Does she have a committee death wish? Knowing this, as the other article stated, the committee will hardly be looked upon as bipartisan. And the credibility will further head into the shitter of history.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 years ago

The R's who were slated for the committee would have been like putting the fox in charge of the hen house.  So cry us a river with all the boo hoo hoo that they won't get the chance to undermine any legitimate investigation.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1    3 years ago

Perhaps you can enlighten the group with what they expect to find in their "legitimate" investigation. And she is shitting in her own mess kit by loading the committee with anti Trumpers. The credibility of the the committee itself, its methods, and its findings will forever be tainted with the label "partisan rigged".

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1    3 years ago

I don't know what this upcoming partisan shit show by the leftist clowns is....

but it won't be a legitimate investigation

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    3 years ago

Not if The Turd Reich's mob and complicit enablers/supporters are on the committee.  

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.5  Drakkonis  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1    3 years ago
So cry us a river with all the boo hoo hoo that they won't get the chance to undermine any legitimate investigation.

But it being a legitimate "investigation" is pretty much the point. This isn't intended to be an investigation. it's intended to be a prosecution and the prosecutors apparently get to choose who the defense is. Apparently, that's fine with many of you here because you surely realize this as well as I do. That is, you're expecting a prosecution, not an investigation and you already know what the predetermined result of it will be and, somehow, you feel this is a good thing. You consider it justice or something. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.5    3 years ago
"It's intended to be a prosecution and the prosecutors apparently get to choose who the defense is. Apparently, that's fine with many of you here because you surely realize this as well as I do"

Bullshit - no we don't realize this 'as well as you do'

"That is, you're expecting a prosecution, not an investigation and you already know what the predetermined result of it will be and, somehow, you feel this is a good thing. You consider it justice or something."

Again, BULLSHIT.  

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.7  Drakkonis  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    3 years ago
Bullshit - no we don't realize this 'as well as you do'

Well, in your case, I'll make an exception. You may be as unaware as you claim to be.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1.8  Sunshine  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.5    3 years ago
This isn't intended to be an investigation.

That shithead with bugeyes who deliberately lied in a Congressional hearing will get the most airtime on CNN.

Far from any investigation.  Same bullshit as the Mueller investigation and Impeachment hearings.  Democrats are a sick bunch of nutters.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.9  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    3 years ago

Sorry your bullshit is bullshit. You know EXACTLY what you want the outcome to be as does Ms. Pelosi and the others. It's another in a string of bullshit witch hunts.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.10  Drakkonis  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    3 years ago

Oh, and congratulations for not working in "Turd Reich" somehow. It was refreshing : )

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.9    3 years ago

Yes the outcome should be JUSTICE for these traitors.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.12  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.8    3 years ago
That shithead with bugeyes who deliberately lied in a Congressional hearing will get the most airtime on CNN.

This one?

256

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.13  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.11    3 years ago

What traitors would that be?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.7    3 years ago

I'm not the one who is unaware here.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.9    3 years ago
"It's another in a string of bullshit witch hunts."

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Sunshine
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1.1.16  Sunshine  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.12    3 years ago

haha...yes that POS.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.13    3 years ago

See 1.3.3

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.18  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.14    3 years ago
I'm not the one who is unaware here.  

Evidently you're unaware enough to not know that when you flag a comment and actually want something done to/about it you stop responding to it or it negates your flag.

You're welcome.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.18    3 years ago

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Tessylo
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1.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.12    3 years ago

He probably has a thyroid condition.

Nice trumpturdian insults!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.21  Drakkonis  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.12    3 years ago

Jim!!! You're giving me a heart attack from laughing so hard! 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.21    3 years ago

KEEP LAUGHING!

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.1.23  Drakkonis  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.22    3 years ago
KEEP LAUGHING!

I'll take that in the spirit it was intended : )

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.24  Split Personality  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.8    3 years ago

Same bullshit as ten Benghazi investigations? 

6 of which were GOP House committees which Jim Jordan participated in or led. That's hypocrisy in the flesh.

Congress spent more time on Benghazi than it did on 911.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1.25  Sunshine  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.24    3 years ago

Doesn't make it acceptable for the Democrats either.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.26  Split Personality  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.25    3 years ago

Then vote out the people doing it.

Sounds easy, doesn't it?

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.27  pat wilson  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.8    3 years ago

That shithead with bugeyes

Yeah, it's always useful to point out someone's physical imperfections (Graves disease) when trying to debate their politics. /s

Did you take lessons from trump ? You know, mocking someone's physical deformity ? trump is so proud of you.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.28  XXJefferson51  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.5    3 years ago

Star chamber justice…

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.29  XXJefferson51  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.10    3 years ago

Those kind of labelings used to be against the code here regardless of which side directed them at the other.  It was supposed to detract from the content of a conversation.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.30  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @1.1.5    3 years ago
But it being a legitimate "investigation" is pretty much the point. This isn't intended to be an investigation. it's intended to be a prosecution and the prosecutors apparently get to choose who the defense is. Apparently, that's fine with many of you here because you surely realize this as well as I do. That is, you're expecting a prosecution, not an investigation and you already know what the predetermined result of it will be and, somehow, you feel this is a good thing. You consider it justice or something. 

What a pile of gaslighting nonsense. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 years ago
Knowing this, as the other article stated, the committee will hardly be looked upon as bipartisan.

So in your mind, only Q-anon and "big lie" supporting republicans, would qualify for bipartisanship?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    3 years ago

Nope not at all. Your crystal ball is failing you. What does the article say she is mulling? Read it again. "Anti Trump Republican".

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.1    3 years ago

Yes there can be no dissent against the Turd Reich.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.1    3 years ago

Seems she's mulling over Riggelman and Kinzinger...2 republicans. I see nothing wrong with that.

But if nothing really happened that day why are McCarthy et al opposed to investigating it?

originally replied to the wrong comment...mea culpa

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.5  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.4    3 years ago
2 republicans. I see nothing wrong with that.

You forgot what KIND of Republicans she's looking for.......................it's in the article title

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.5    3 years ago

So? Moderate republicans are exactly what she needs.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.5    3 years ago

Politico gave it that title - doesn't mean Ms. Pelosi is looking for -anti-Turd Reich republicans.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.8  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.6    3 years ago

Anti-Trump makes them moderate?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.1    3 years ago

Read it again. "Anti Trump Republican".

I did, perhaps you should as well.  For it to be considered "bipartisan" you are saying that only republicans that support Q-anon or the "big lie", would be acceptable.  All others would qualify as "anti-Trump republicans".

If you have a different definition of "anti-Trump republicans" please provide it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.8    3 years ago

Makes them less insane at least

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.11  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.9    3 years ago

Your doing your normal song and dance. I am not saying that at all. I didn't write the story. Someone else did. And Fuck Q-anon. She is picking and choosing who she wants. I realize it's her circus so it's her clowns but she screwed herself. 2 of the proposed members are NOT enough to sway the other 11. Last I checked the outcome didn't have to be unanimous.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.12  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.11    3 years ago
Your doing your normal song and dance.

Yup, bringing people to task over their unsupported claims.

I am not saying that at all. I didn't write the story.

You seeded it and your comments indicate you support its conclusions.

And Fuck Q-anon.

Hey we agree!!!!  That was easy.

She is picking and choosing who she wants. I realize it's her circus so it's her clowns but she screwed herself.

So you are now saying that the republicans she would accept are "clowns".  We agree again!!!!  All current republican politicians are clowns.

2 of the proposed members are NOT enough to sway the other 11.

How do you know???

Last I checked the outcome didn't have to be unanimous.

It doesn't, but the investigation has to be bipartisan.  She needs republican members who would actually put an honest effort into the investigation, instead of devoting all their energy into derailing it.

Why are republicans so terrified of the truth about 1/6?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.13  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.12    3 years ago
How do you know???

Seriously? hahaha

It doesn't, but the investigation has to be bipartisan.  She needs republican members who would actually put an honest effort into the investigation, instead of devoting all their energy into derailing it.

Do you really think that these people will be doing the actual investigating?

Why are republicans so terrified of the truth about 1/6?

What truth would that be? What are they hoping to find? Last I heard they wanted to find out why and how it happened so they could "prevent it in the future". THAT is bullshit. You know exactly why they are investigating.

They had warning that something, maybe of a lesser degree of threat, was going to happen. And they weren't ready. This group of fools went on pure adrenaline save for a few of the ones "at the front" heading in. There are some pretty damned good posts in this thread that explain that.

And insurrection and coup?? This rag tag group of fools couldn't take over a day care center.

Why are Democrats such drama queens?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.14  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.13    3 years ago
As the Select Committee on Benghazi issued a  lengthy report about the attack, Jordan and a Kansas colleague on the select committee - Mike Pompeo - issued their own finding of "a tragic failure of leadership" by the Obama administration.

The pair accused the Obama administration and Clinton of being "so blinded by politics" and the desire to win elections that they disregarded the government's basic duty to "tell people the truth.

Have no fear, Jordan and Banks will pull the same shit regardless of the outcome of this investigation.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.16  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.3    3 years ago

That’s what’s in power now and they definitely are trying to stamp it out.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.17  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.6    3 years ago

It shouldn’t be her role to determine for us who we can choose to be our membership of said committee.  If we can’t choose the composition of our members on any committee we should not participate in said committee .  Period.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.18  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.13    3 years ago
Seriously? hahaha

Yes, seriously.  Can't answer the question?

Do you really think that these people will be doing the actual investigating?

Yes.

What truth would that be?

Don't know, that's why their investigating.  To find the truth.

What are they hoping to find?

The truth...

Last I heard they wanted to find out why and how it happened so they could "prevent it in the future". THAT is bullshit. You know exactly why they are investigating.

To learn the truth about why and how it happened.  You seem to have problems with the whole concept about "truth".

They had warning that something, maybe of a lesser degree of threat, was going to happen.

And yet no one took any actions about those warnings.  Why not???  Let's investigate and find out...

And insurrection and coup?? This rag tag group of fools couldn't take over a day care center.

The law speaks to intent, not capabilities.  And taking over the government to re-establish Trump as POTUS, was their stated intent.

Why are Democrats such drama queens?

Why are republicans such cowards?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.2.19  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.17    3 years ago

McCarthy's appointees, particularly Jordan and Banks, were selected for the sole purpose of disrupting and undermining the important work of the Select Committee.  Non-participation by Trumpist-Fascists is the best possible way forward.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Gsquared @1.2.19    3 years ago

Jim Jordan and Banks were going to try and blame Nancy Pelosi for the whole thing. When they were done they'd be telling us she ransacked her own office and Trump was just an innocent victim. 

It is far better to go ahead without them. 

Now if only the media would get their head out of their ass and stop with this "both sides" bullshit. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.2.21  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.20    3 years ago

Jordan and Bank's participation would be absolutely detrimental to the work of the committee.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.22  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.18    3 years ago

If it doesn't have to be unanimous, 2 against 11 would indicate it won't happen. And you do realize there are 8 Dems on the committee right? You think they aren't lockstep with Pelosi? Again, hahahaha.

They will be reading "reports" from those who are actually doing the leg work NOT doing the actual gathering of those reports.

What "truth" are they hoping to find that we didn't all see unfold? They already have their "eye on the prize" of what they are hoping to find. Republicans and Trump complicit and that is going to be hilarious to watch although, like all the "gotchas" against Trump.

How it happened is easy. All one had to do was open eyes. The why should be evident by the group that committed the "invasion". They were pissed that Trump lost.

Agree on the investigate the inaction. Incompetence and no sense of urgency and I would venture to say arrogance. "They aren't going to do that. There's no way" thinking that no one would DARE.

And you cannot prove intent. We saw that in the Clinton email investigations aka James Comey didn't want to find his own drafted suicide note in his desk drawer. Intent is within.

Republicans aren't cowards. It seems pretty stupid to go on this hunt to find some nefarious underlying reasoning to understand how it happened so that it won't happen again. That alone is bullshit. If someone wants to do it again, it will be done. But after this one, and if serious pursuit of insurrection is the intent, the lessons have been learned of what NOT to do and how to truly prepare. It won't happen and wouldn't have happened this time if preparations were adequate.

Who is in charge of the Capitol police? There's your answer. And the drama queens comment stands.

Have a good day.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.23  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.22    3 years ago
If it doesn't have to be unanimous, 2 against 11 would indicate it won't happen.

What won't happen?  You're not making sense.

And you do realize there are 8 Dems on the committee right? You think they aren't lockstep with Pelosi?

When was the last time a democrat was censured for having a different opinion?  Republicans are required to be in "lock step", anything else is pure projection.

What "truth" are they hoping to find that we didn't all see unfold?
  • The truth that they weren't acting like tourists? 
  • The truth that they weren't all hugging and kissing each other? 
  • They truth as far as why the Capitol police were not prepared and why reinforcements were delayed for so long?
How it happened is easy. All one had to do was open eyes.

Then you tell me.  Why did the crowd feel that invading the Capitol would stop anything?  Why did the crowd think that Trump should have won?  Why weren't the Capitol police prepared in the same way they were prepared for the peaceful BLM protest?  Why were reinforcements delayed for so long while police officers were being assaulted and overwhelmed? 

You tell me why.

And you cannot prove intent.

Are you insane?  They freely stated their intent on social media, to reporters, on live streams, hell they wrote their intents on half the signs they carried.  You don't have to prove what they freely admitted, their intent was to over-throw the government and forcibly re-establish Trump as POTUS.

Republicans aren't cowards.

Their actions speak otherwise.

Who is in charge of the Capitol police? There's your answer. And the drama queens comment stands.

So you are wanting to pick a scapegoat and ignore everything else.  Who blocked the requested reinforcements?  Why did the capitol police chief not prepare?

I mean seriously, finding someone to point your finger at is not the end all of finding the truth.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.24  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.23    3 years ago

What won't happen is 2 people influencing all 11 of the others and their conclusions.

Dems all have the same intent for this investigation. Find something they can use against Republicans\

  • The truth that they weren't acting like tourists? Who said they were except possibly in the days prior
  • The truth that they weren't all hugging and kissing each other? Who said they were? 
  • They truth as far as why the Capitol police were not prepared and why reinforcements were delayed for so long? Why don't you ask the people in charge of the Capitol police **hint it isn't a republican*

You jumped from "how" to "why" Answering the how. How it happened was easily seen. They rallied and moved on the Capitol.

Show me anywhere a sign said any of that. "their intent was to over-throw the government and forcibly re-establish Trump as POTUS." literally.

Who did block the requested (I think you must have pulled that from your nether regions) reinforcements? **hint again,  it wasn't a Republican**

And finally, who is in charge of the Capitol police? Ask them why they didn't better prepare.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.25  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.24    3 years ago
What won't happen is 2 people influencing all 11 of the others and their conclusions.

You've never been on a jury have you?

You jumped from "how" to "why" Answering the how. How it happened was easily seen.

That's because you kept changing from how to why.  If so easily seen, you tell me how it happened since it could only have happened if Capitol police and nat'l guard and such were not doing their jobs, HOW did it happen ?

They rallied and moved on the Capitol.

That is WHAT happened.  HOW were they so successful?

Show me anywhere a sign said any of that. " their intent was to over-throw the government and forcibly re-establish Trump as POTUS." literally.

That question is below even you.  If you refuse to look at any media about it, I am not going to spoon feed it to you.

Who did block the requested (I think you must have pulled that from your nether regions) reinforcements? 

If we knew who, why would we need to investigate that?  We need to know who blocked it and why they blocked it.  Then we can address the causes for the failure.

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Former Capitol Police chief describes "frustrating" call with Army official about reinforcements

General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot

**hint again,  it wasn't a Republican**

Ahhh, there you are, you little partisan buddy.  Your entire argument is simply another republican plea of "it's not my fault" .

Where did I even imply that it was a republican blocking reinforcements?  My entire support of the investigation revolves around finding the "truth", not finding a republican to blame.  In fact, you are the one trying to find someone to point your finger at and say, "it's all his/her fault".

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.17    3 years ago

What is this "we" shit? What you just hurled at me makes no goddamn sense at all.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.27  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.24    3 years ago
And finally, who is in charge of the Capitol police? Ask them why they didn't better prepare.

The Board and various Congressional Committees.

The Sargent s at Arms also report, respectively, the the Senate Majority leader McConnell & Speaker Pelosi.

Oversight

The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is overseen by the Capitol Police Board and has Congressional oversight by appropriations and authorizing committees from the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. This oversight affords the Department the support and opportunity to continually ensure that the USCP meets the safety and security needs of the Congress, the staff, and the many visitors who come to the United States Capitol each day.
 

Capitol Police Board

  • Karen H. Gibson, United States Senate Sergeant at Arms (Chair)
  • William J. Walker, U.S. House of Representatives Sergeant at Arms (Member)
  • J. Brett Blanton, Architect of the Capitol (Member)
  • Yogananda D. Pittman, Acting Chief of Police (Ex-Officio Member)

Congressional Committees

         Appropriations Committees

House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch

  • Chairman: Tim Ryan (Ohio)
  • Ranking Member:  Jaime Herrera Beutler (Washington)
     

Senate Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch

  • Chairman: Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
  • Ranking Member: Mike Braun (Indiana)

       

         Authorizing Committees

Committee on House Administration

  • Chairperson: Zoe Lofgren (California)
  • Ranking Member: Rodney Davis (Illinois)
     

Senate Committee on Rules and Administration

  • Chairwoman:  Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota)
  • Ranking Member: Roy Blunt (Missouri)

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 years ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1.3.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.3    3 years ago

Oooooooh and a conspiracy theory............do do, do do, do do, S PLAT GOES THE NOTHING BURGER

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Tessylo
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1.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3.1    3 years ago

Take a bite of this nothingberder

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When a mob of President Trump’s supporters   stormed the Capitol building   on Wednesday, they forced an emergency recess in the   Congressional proceedings   to officially certify the results of the 2020 presidential election. The disruption came shortly after some Republican lawmakers made the first of a planned series of highly unusual objections, based on spurious allegations of widespread voter fraud, to states’ election results. The chambers were separately debating an objection to Arizona’s results when proceedings were halted and the Capitol was locked down.

When the Senate reconvened at 8 p.m., and the House of Representatives an hour later, the proceedings — including the objection debates — continued, although some lawmakers who had previously planned to vote with the objectors   stood down   following the occupation of the Capitol.   Plans to challenge   a number of states after Arizona were scrapped, as well — but one other objection, to Pennsylvania’s results, also advanced to a vote. Here are the eight senators and 139 representatives who voted to sustain one or both objections.

Correction:  Jan. 7, 2021

A picture with an earlier version of this article was published in error, and misidentified the man shown as a United States Representative from Pennsylvania. The image showed Craig Keller, a congressional candidate in 2020, not Representative Fred Keller. The photo has been replaced. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.2    3 years ago

[REMOVED  trolling by posting so many pictures that deliberately disrupted the article.]  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.3    3 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 years ago

Future speaker McCarthy should strip any one joined by that committee of all their committee and caucus positions on the spot. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.4.1  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.4    3 years ago

Comment 1.4 is the ultimate advocacy for cancel culture, repression and censorship.  Either show fealty and obey the Trumpist dictates or get cancelled and repressed.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.2  Split Personality  replied to  Gsquared @1.4.1    3 years ago

Exactly...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.4.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @1.4.1    3 years ago

Please.. as if Nancy Pelosi is just so generous with dissent in her crappy party caucus.  This is now a Partisan committee whose biased findings will automatically be rejected out of hand by half the country before the ink is dry on the paper copy of it.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2  Tessylo    3 years ago

Why would Ms. Pelosi add those complicit Turd Reich enablers/supporters to the Committee?

I can't wait until they're in the 'shitter of history'!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
3  Gsquared    3 years ago

Apparently, the few honest Republicans left are despised by Trumpists.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Gsquared @3    3 years ago

Trumptards avoid them like a pack of rinos.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @3    3 years ago

original Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Gsquared @3    3 years ago
Apparently, the few honest Republicans left

If there are any left, they are all cowering in the corner, terrified to speak out.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @3.3    3 years ago

No one must speak out against The Turd Reich.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.3.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.1    3 years ago
No one must speak out against The Turd Reich.

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XXJefferson51
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3.3.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.1    3 years ago

Lord Biden has spoken…

 
 
 
Ender
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4  Ender    3 years ago
Most Republicans had opposed the creation of the select committee last month, criticizing Democrats for limiting the scope of the probe to the events of Jan. 6. Republicans had pushed to expand the scope to include other episodes of political violence, including the sporadic clashes that accompanied some of last summer's Black Lives Matter protests and the April 2 killing of Capitol Police officer Billy Evans, who was struck by a car when a motorist rammed a police barricade.

They also want any investigation into Jan. 6 to include a thorough accounting of what Pelosi knew about the threat that day - an unsubtle suggestion that they think the Speaker was negligent in securing the Capitol.

They are admitting they want to turn it into something else. They want to use it as a springboard to their own grievances instead of what it is suppose to be about.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1  Ender  replied to  Ender @4    3 years ago
Democrats have a powerful ally in Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), a fierce Trump critic who accepted Pelosi's invitation to sit on the select committee and is now bashing Republican leaders, saying they have sided with Trump over the Constitution. She has reserved some of her harshest language for McCarthy.

"There must be an investigation that is nonpartisan, that is sober, that is serious, that gets to the facts wherever they may lead. And at every opportunity, the minority leader has attempted to prevent the American people from understanding what happened," she charged Wednesday, adding that McCarthy's actions surrounding Jan. 6 should disqualify him from ever becoming Speaker.

Cheney was also quick to support Pelosi's decision to reject Jordan and Banks. The former, she argued, "may well be a material witness to events that led to ... Jan. 6." The latter "disqualified himself" in vowing to focus his energies on the panel on Pelosi, she said.

"He is not dealing with the facts of this investigation, but rather viewed it as a political platform," Cheney added.
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @4    3 years ago

It sounds like they're squealing "Look! A squirrel!"

The violence of last summer had nothing to do with what happened on Jan 6. And the motorist who killed the Capitol Cop should be prosecuted and given a lengthy prison sentence

 
 
 
Ender
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4.2.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2    3 years ago

Agree. Now they want to use it as a platform just to attack Pelosi.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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4.2.2  Drakkonis  replied to  Ender @4.2.1    3 years ago
Agree. Now they want to use it as a platform just to attack Pelosi.

Believe it or not, I agree. While I think Pelosi has no intention of anything like an honest investigation, that doesn't mean I think the Repubs do, either. My opinion is that our Congress is nothing more than a clown car intended to distract us from real issues or real action. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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5  Colour Me Free    3 years ago
"We'll see," Pelosi told reporters when asked if she'd appoint more Republicans to serve alongside Cheney. "It's not even bipartisan; it's nonpartisan. It's about seeking the truth and that's what we owe the American people."

I do not have a dog in this fight when it comes to partisanship.. as I am a dreaded both sider ... yet "truth" what truth is that exactly?  January 6th is on video, I watched live .... I witnessed barriers being moved for protesters to enter, I saw brutality towards the law enforcement officers present .. I saw people breaking in and doing damage as they hunted down elected officials .. I cringed in disbelieve as these people entered the inner chambers of the capitol - brave officers in the Capitol risking their own safety to protect this nations elected officials .. all on video...!

So again I ask what ''truth' is being sought?

The former president is also on video .. his words are recorded for history just prior to the assault on the Capitol building .. this 'investigation' truly is a witch hunt [and I strongly dislike the use of the term witch hunt]    we know what happened, why and who instigated the assault, as it is on video .. if the (D)s want to hang Trump - go for it, but do not disguise it as 'this is owed to the American people ...'  yes, some of our fellow Americans see the events of January 6 differently .. but that is kind of what America is all about..  This nation is a melting pot of beliefs, the freedom to believe differently is all part of what makes this nation special .. is it not?

Peace!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Colour Me Free @5    3 years ago

Ho Colour! Hope everything is well with you.

I think (and I'm just speculating here) that what Pelosi wants investigated is to see if the insurrection was an inside job. There are rumors of lawmakers like Large Marge, McCarthy, and Hawley taking "visitors" on a "guided tour" of the capitol grounds the day before.

When I say "visitors" I really mean potential criminals and "guided tour" means  a reconnaissance mission, ie, casing the joint

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    3 years ago

Perhaps it was under the guise that they were in DC to see the inauguration and the reps didn't know that there was possibly underlying motives. Why must everything be some nefarious plot FFS. Legislators aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    3 years ago
Perhaps it was under the guise that they were in DC to see the inauguration and the reps didn't know that there was possibly underlying motives.

The inauguration was two full weeks after the insurrection. No one came to Washington DC on Jan 5th or 6th to see the inauguration. No one. 

Have you got anything else? 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
5.1.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    3 years ago
When I say "visitors" I really mean potential criminals and "guided tour" means  a reconnaissance mission, ie, casing the joint

Good point Mrs G, I see that as a very disturbing possibility  .. yet how is that 'truth' to be proven - innuendo and speculation cannot be what drives an investigation, that is how we end up with so many innocents locked up in our prison system ...

Life continues for me .. hope you and yours are healthy .. this Delta variant is disturbing - even the vaccinated are testing positive - stay safe!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.4  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    3 years ago

Why else were they there you imply? Yep. To protest the certification. While there why not take a tour of the place? I am sure many of them had never been to DC.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.4    3 years ago

wasnt it your belief that the representatives may have thought on jan 5th that the crowds near the capitol were there to see the inauguration? 

Perhaps it was under the guise that they were in DC to see the inauguration and the reps didn't know that there was possibly underlying motives.

That is EXTREMELY unlikely. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.4    3 years ago

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Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5.1.7  Sunshine  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.4    3 years ago
Why else were they there you imply?

The nutcase conspiracy theories will be repeated relentlessly until next year.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.8  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    3 years ago
That is EXTREMELY unlikely. 

Can't disagree. I got my "events" mixed up. Thanks

And I guess who in their right mind would want to spend two weeks in the middle of the winter in DC anyway.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    3 years ago

My reaction was jrSmiley_123_smiley_image.gif

Those boneheads were coming to see the Biden inauguration???

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Colour Me Free @5.1.3    3 years ago

You, too!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.11  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.9    3 years ago

If that had been the timing of the event, they could very well have used that for an excuse. Reps had no way of knowing who they were and they could have been there for the inauguration if it had been happening. I am sure they had no clue right, left, or middle.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
5.1.12  Drakkonis  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    3 years ago
I think (and I'm just speculating here) that what Pelosi wants investigated is to see if the insurrection was an inside job.

While I don't know you, personally, I have been on here and NV long enough to know you're far from being an idiot. Because of this, I have a hard time believing your "speculation". I'm asking for your honest opinion here. Do you really think "insurrection" actually applies? To show that I am being honest, I think Trump bears a lot of responsibility for what happened on Jan 6th. Whether or not Trump intended to incite what happened I can't say. I can say that a responsible person should have seen the potential. 

If you do honestly believe "insurrection" applies, then you must believe all the riots over the last couple of years must also be insurrection. Do you? And, if so, do you think those participating in those riots should be gone after in the same manner the rioters of Jan 6th are being gone after? If not, why? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @5.1.12    3 years ago
an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government Insurrection | Definition of Insurrection by Merriam-Webster

Once they entered the building with an intent to occupy the legislative chambers of the national government and to influence that government to certain actions while occupying those legislative chambers, I think insurrection is well within the bounds of description of that day. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Drakkonis @5.1.12    3 years ago

I have to go with what John said. I do think that at least a handful of people wanted to stop the election certification. Didn't you hear the crowd chant "Hang Pence?" Did you see the photo of the hangman's scaffold complete with noose? Those guys wanted something to happen.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.14    3 years ago

At least some of the "protesters" knew how to find their way to the Senate and House chambers and they did in fact end up at them . That was not just by chance. Whether they would have tried to be violent with the senators and congresspeople or just scream at them from 10 or 15 feet away is hard to know for sure. But they did try to effect what happened with the electoral vote count and they were more than willing to do so illegally.  I dont think insurrection is really a reach. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5.1.16  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.13    3 years ago
Once they entered the building with an intent to occupy the legislative chambers of the national government and to influence that government to certain actions while occupying those legislative chambers, I think insurrection is well within the bounds of description of that day. 

I'm not sure I agree wholly, but I understand how people see it that way.

I think when you see photos of the guys in tactical getup or carrying zip-tie handcuffs, it's a compelling and alarming picture that definitely supports the "insurrection" story.

But the majority of these folks wandered around the building, took selfies, shouted some nonsense, and then went to happy hour somewhere.  The whole thing lasted less time than Monday Night Football.  If you're really storming that building to take over the govt, that's not what it looks like, especially when every last one of them owns at least one gun.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
5.1.17  Drakkonis  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.14    3 years ago
I have to go with what John said. I do think that at least a handful of people wanted to stop the election certification. Didn't you hear the crowd chant "Hang Pence?" Did you see the photo of the hangman's scaffold complete with noose? Those guys wanted something to happen.

I'm sure that some intended to stop the certification. The bell curve pretty much insists that some had that intention. But that isn't the point I was addressing. The point is, if what happened on the 6th should be considered insurrection, why not all other riots over the last couple of years as well? 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
5.1.18  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.15    3 years ago
At least some of the "protesters" knew how to find their way to the Senate and House chambers and they did in fact end up at them .

Which can easily be explained by Brownian motion. Or is it your contention that such cambers would be impossible to find without prior knowledge of their locations? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @5.1.18    3 years ago

whether the chambers would have been easy or hard to find, the mob went right toward them

they were not there for sightseeing

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Drakkonis @5.1.17    3 years ago

Because they weren't trying to storm the US Capitol

That's my final answer

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
5.1.21  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.19    3 years ago
whether the chambers would have been easy or hard to find, the mob went right toward them

Gosh! How incredible. They went for the main parts of the building rather than the janitor's closet. Concerning where they went, you need to think of the rioters as a fluid, like water. Claiming something nefarious because they went "right toward them" is like claiming water is nefarious because it seeks the lowest point. 

they were not there for sightseeing

Sorry, but "Duh!" What is your point?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Drakkonis @5.1.21    3 years ago

They didnt go for "the main parts of the building", they went for the part where the electoral votes were being certified. That was the reason for the whole "protest" believe it or not. 

Thanks to Trumpism, we live in a degraded nation. Now we have people trying hard, every day, to play down what happened on Jan 6th.  Its a tragedy. 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Guide
5.1.23  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.22    3 years ago
Thanks to Trumpism, we live in a degraded nation.

Oh, you seriously don't understand your opposition. I agree, we do live in a degraded nation, but it sure as hell wasn't due to Trump. 

Personally, while I think Trump did good things, he was, as an individual, a narcissitic ass hat. But, at the least, he turned the light on on a room full of cockroaches. The nation was already degraded. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Colour Me Free @5    3 years ago

Thank you. We all saw it. That is what I don't understand. They say they want to get to the root of the problem leading up to it so they can prevent it from happening again. That is smoke and mirror bullshit. 

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Tessylo
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5.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2    3 years ago

Nope the smoke and mirrors bullshit is all coming from trumpturd's mob's enablers and inciters including The Turd Reich.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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5.2.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2    3 years ago

Yeah Jim .. the whole preventing part is confusing to me as well .. the Capitol building was not protected adequately, even with the knowledge of what was on social media ... the Capitol police were left hanging with no back up from the city available .. cops were stuck in traffic and the mayor could not call out the National Guard .....

I guess there is 'truth' to be discovered regarding the former president not taking calls during the attack .. yet all we have to do is wait for another book to be written to get the details .... ugghhh!

Peace my friend ... hope you are well  : )  lungs healing up?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.3  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Colour Me Free @5.2.2    3 years ago

Doing better thanks and hope you are too my friend.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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5.2.4  Colour Me Free  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.3    3 years ago

Most excellent to hear!  you know Hallux, I and loki were quite concerned about you - HA!  you are loved - scary I know!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.5  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Colour Me Free @5.2.4    3 years ago

Thanks to you all. And ditto.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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5.2.6  Colour Me Free  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.5    3 years ago

: ) take care of you..!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.3  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @5    3 years ago

NO, it's not 'truly a witch hunt' NOT AT ALL.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
5.3.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @5.3    3 years ago

Hello Tessylo .. hope you are well

Can you tell me the truth you see can be found through this 'seemingly' partisan investigation?  Why not put those Trump supporters on the panel?  Seems as if there is speculation [as Mrs G pointed out] would not that 'truth' come to light by having those Trump supporters on the investigation?

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
6  Sunshine    3 years ago

I am sure this fishing expedition will last well into the mid-terms.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sunshine @6    3 years ago

Nor is it a fishing expedition.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sunshine @6    3 years ago

Anything to deflect from Biden Admin. failures.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
6.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Sunshine @6    3 years ago

The fishing expedition in the Dead Sea was FISA warrants against Carter Page ... : )  or perhaps even Robert Mueller's counterintelligence investigation .. ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.3    3 years ago

Neither was that

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
6.3.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.1    3 years ago

Yes Tessylo, Carter Page was a fishing expedition ... Mueller's counterintelligence investigation turned out to be one - in that Mueller refused to come to a conclusion... yes yes I know seated president blah blah blah - yet had Mueller reached a conclusion, now that Trump is out of office that counterintelligence investigation would be biting him in the ass .. 

Pelosi just does not seem to choose her battles wisely when it comes to Trump.. this investigation is shaping up to be Benghazi 2.0

Just my opinion

 
 

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